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Not this trope. That's just Fridge Logic
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** The multiple profile images you can select for your targets and the CCTV footage in the beginning led some players to believe that they would have look for them in cam footage. This doesn't show up.
** While the lack of ability to access the internet is due to it being a game and not existing in reality, there's no reason why the investigator can't pursue the investigation on their own time and submit their own findings. Most of the information, after all, is publically available.
** The multiple profile images you can select for your targets and the CCTV footage in the beginning led some players to believe that they would have look for them in cam footage. This doesn't show up.
** While the lack of ability to access the internet is due to it being a game and not existing in reality, there's no reason why the investigator can't pursue the investigation on their own time and submit their own findings. Most of the information, after all, is publically available.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
**TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The multiple profile images you can select for your targets and the CCTV footage in the beginning led some players to believe that they would have look for them in cam footage. This doesn't show up.
** While the lack of ability to access the internet is due to it being a game and not existing in reality, there's no reason why the investigator can't pursue the investigation on their own time and submit their own findings. Most of the information, after all, is publically available.up.
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** While the lack of ability to access the internet is due to it being a game and not existing in reality, there's no reason why the investigator can't pursue the investigation on their own time and submit their own findings. Most of the information, after all, is publically available.
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* AlasPoorVillain: Raban Vhart from ''Ignorance Is Strength'' isn't exactly a shining paragon of virtue, but he has a rather tragic backstory that does explain why he has such a hatred for The Nation. [[spoiler: And depending on your actions in the game, you could not only destroy his credibility but his personal life as well]].
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* AlasPoorVillain: AlasPoorVillain:
** Raban Vhart from ''Ignorance Is Strength'' isn't exactly a shining paragon of virtue, but he has a rather tragic backstory that does explain why he has such a hatred for The Nation. [[spoiler: And depending on your actions in the game, you could not only destroy his credibility but his personal life as well]].
** Raban Vhart from ''Ignorance Is Strength'' isn't exactly a shining paragon of virtue, but he has a rather tragic backstory that does explain why he has such a hatred for The Nation. [[spoiler: And depending on your actions in the game, you could not only destroy his credibility but his personal life as well]].
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"What an Idiot!" is now Flame Bait.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Privacy settings or not, [[spoiler:posting an image of herself passionately kissing her husband's brother]] to an account with a real name probably wasn't the best idea for [[spoiler:Karen Vhart]].
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Some Anvils Need To Be Dropped got cut.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:
** Be careful what you put online, as it could all be traced back to you without context.
** Surveillance systems are extremely vulnerable to abuse and intrude on people's privacy and free speech.
** Be careful what you put online, as it could all be traced back to you without context.
** Surveillance systems are extremely vulnerable to abuse and intrude on people's privacy and free speech.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:
** Be careful what you put online, as it could all be traced back to you without context.
** Surveillance systems are extremely vulnerable to abuse and intrude on people's privacy and free speech.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** The multiple profile images you can select for your targets and the CCTV footage in the beginning led some players to believe that they would have look for them in cam footage. This doesn't show up.
** While the lack of ability to access the internet is due to it being a game and not existing in reality, there's no reason why the investigator can't pursue the investigation on their own time and submit their own findings. Most of the information, after all, is publically available.
** Be careful what you put online, as it could all be traced back to you without context.
** Surveillance systems are extremely vulnerable to abuse and intrude on people's privacy and free speech.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** The multiple profile images you can select for your targets and the CCTV footage in the beginning led some players to believe that they would have look for them in cam footage. This doesn't show up.
** While the lack of ability to access the internet is due to it being a game and not existing in reality, there's no reason why the investigator can't pursue the investigation on their own time and submit their own findings. Most of the information, after all, is publically available.
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** From the first game, [[spoiler:Nina]] could be read this way. No matter your attitude towards them, [[spoiler: her death while trying to escape The Nation with her son (assuming things play out that way)]] is portrayed as tragic and pointless.
* [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]]: [[spoiler: Juliet Kerrington]] is a member of the activist group, Thought, and the true mastermind behind the bombings throughout Bonton. Finding out about Orwell through Abraham Goldfels, the deceased leader of Thought, [[spoiler: Juliet]] plots to shutdown the program. [[DeadPersonImpersonation While impersonating Goldfels]], [[spoiler: Juliet]] convinces Nina to plant bombs throughout Bonton. Later, [[spoiler: she]] sends the investigator and Symes on a goose chae by making them believe that Goldfels is the mastermind behind the bombings before later leading them to find out that Goldfels died months prior to the bombings, letting them know that Orwell leads the government to make rash decisions before getting the full story. On the final day, [[spoiler: Juliet]] argues to the investigator about how flawed a system Orwell is as it easily leads to innocent people being wrongly convicted, pointing out how the investigator saw its flaws first hand. Depending on player choices, [[spoiler: Juliet]] potentially succeeds in convincing the investigator to lead to Orwell being shut down, leading Thought to be promoted to a major political party within The Nation.
* [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]]: [[spoiler: Juliet Kerrington]] is a member of the activist group, Thought, and the true mastermind behind the bombings throughout Bonton. Finding out about Orwell through Abraham Goldfels, the deceased leader of Thought, [[spoiler: Juliet]] plots to shutdown the program. [[DeadPersonImpersonation While impersonating Goldfels]], [[spoiler: Juliet]] convinces Nina to plant bombs throughout Bonton. Later, [[spoiler: she]] sends the investigator and Symes on a goose chae by making them believe that Goldfels is the mastermind behind the bombings before later leading them to find out that Goldfels died months prior to the bombings, letting them know that Orwell leads the government to make rash decisions before getting the full story. On the final day, [[spoiler: Juliet]] argues to the investigator about how flawed a system Orwell is as it easily leads to innocent people being wrongly convicted, pointing out how the investigator saw its flaws first hand. Depending on player choices, [[spoiler: Juliet]] potentially succeeds in convincing the investigator to lead to Orwell being shut down, leading Thought to be promoted to a major political party within The Nation.
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** From the first game, [[spoiler:Nina]] could be read this way. No matter your attitude towards them, [[spoiler: her [[spoiler:Her death while trying to escape The Nation with her son (assuming things play out that way)]] is portrayed as tragic and pointless.
* [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]]: [[spoiler: JulietKerrington]] Kerrington is a member of the activist group, Thought, and the true mastermind behind the bombings throughout Bonton. Finding out about Orwell through Abraham Goldfels, the deceased leader of Thought, [[spoiler: Juliet]] Juliet plots to shutdown shut down the program. [[DeadPersonImpersonation While impersonating Goldfels]], [[spoiler: Juliet]] Juliet convinces Nina to plant bombs throughout Bonton. Later, [[spoiler: she]] she sends the investigator and Symes on a goose chae chase by making them believe that Goldfels is the mastermind behind the bombings before later leading them to find out that Goldfels died months prior to the bombings, letting them know that Orwell leads the government to make rash decisions before getting the full story. On the final day, [[spoiler: Juliet]] Juliet argues to the investigator about how flawed a system Orwell is as it easily leads to innocent people being wrongly convicted, pointing out how the investigator saw its flaws first hand. Depending on player choices, [[spoiler: Juliet]] Juliet potentially succeeds in convincing the investigator to lead to Orwell being shut down, leading Thought to be promoted to a major political party within The Nation. Nation.]]
* [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]]: [[spoiler: Juliet
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** Cassandra has a lot of bratty teen qualities, and episode one reveals in no uncertain terms that she [[spoiler:assaulted a policeman]]. However, she is cearly traumitized by that incident and harbors a lot of guilt over it, and Juliet offers the interpretation that [[spoiler:Cassie was only protecting Juliet from the cop]]. She's also the only character who WILL get arrested over the bombings, due to some remarkably circumstantial evidence, and it's clear that Orwell will never let her move on from her criminal history, even if she was acquitted from it.
** Goldfels has had it pretty rough, especially since his move to The Nation. [[spoiler:He formed Thought to encourage civil discourse and peaceful protests, only for it to stumble off course thanks to Harrison and Nina's more violent and dramatic methods. He worked on Orwell as an ethics advisor, to try and dampen Orwell's more dangerous aspects, but his efforts were ultimately overriden and he abandoned the project in disgust. He fell sick with inoperable cancer, giving him little time to fix any of the negative consequences of his efforts. And as he was dying, he asked Juliet to destroy his backup data - but after his death, she used that data to achieve perhaps his greatest fear of all...]]
** Goldfels has had it pretty rough, especially since his move to The Nation. [[spoiler:He formed Thought to encourage civil discourse and peaceful protests, only for it to stumble off course thanks to Harrison and Nina's more violent and dramatic methods. He worked on Orwell as an ethics advisor, to try and dampen Orwell's more dangerous aspects, but his efforts were ultimately overriden and he abandoned the project in disgust. He fell sick with inoperable cancer, giving him little time to fix any of the negative consequences of his efforts. And as he was dying, he asked Juliet to destroy his backup data - but after his death, she used that data to achieve perhaps his greatest fear of all...]]
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** Cassandra has a lot of bratty teen qualities, and episode one reveals in no uncertain terms that she [[spoiler:assaulted a policeman]]. However, she is cearly traumitized clearly traumatized by that incident and harbors a lot of guilt over it, and Juliet offers the interpretation that [[spoiler:Cassie was only protecting Juliet from the cop]]. She's also the only character who WILL get arrested over the bombings, due to some remarkably circumstantial evidence, and it's clear that Orwell will never let her move on from her criminal history, even if she was acquitted from it.
** Goldfels has had it pretty rough, especially since his move to The Nation. [[spoiler:He formed Thought to encourage civil discourse and peaceful protests, only for it to stumble off course thanks to Harrison and Nina's more violent and dramatic methods. He worked on Orwell as an ethics advisor, to try and dampen Orwell's more dangerous aspects, but his efforts were ultimatelyoverriden overridden and he abandoned the project in disgust. He fell sick with inoperable cancer, giving him little time to fix any of the negative consequences of his efforts. And as he was dying, he asked Juliet to destroy his backup data - but after his death, she used that data to achieve perhaps his greatest fear of all...]]
** Goldfels has had it pretty rough, especially since his move to The Nation. [[spoiler:He formed Thought to encourage civil discourse and peaceful protests, only for it to stumble off course thanks to Harrison and Nina's more violent and dramatic methods. He worked on Orwell as an ethics advisor, to try and dampen Orwell's more dangerous aspects, but his efforts were ultimately
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* TheWoobie: Pretty much every character, though some are more of the [[Jerkass]] variety. This is also invoked in the endgame, where [[spoiler:Juliet demonstrates that she intentionally set up the others to have their lives ruined by Orwell/the investigator, in order to demonstrate to the investigator how easily Orwell could be mishandled and how easily it can cause innocent people to suffer for no reason.]]
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* TheWoobie: Pretty much every character, though some are more of the [[Jerkass]] {{Jerkass}} variety. This is also invoked in the endgame, where [[spoiler:Juliet demonstrates that she intentionally set up the others to have their lives ruined by Orwell/the investigator, in order to demonstrate to the investigator how easily Orwell could be mishandled and how easily it can cause innocent people to suffer for no reason.]]
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** Goldfels has had it pretty rough, especially since his move to The Nation. [[spoiler:He formed Thought to encourage civil discourse and peaceful protests, only for it to stumble off course thanks to Harrison and Nina's more violent and dramatic methods. He worked on Orwell as an ethics advisor, to try and dampen Orwell's more dangerous aspects, but his efforts were ultimately overriden and he abandoned the project in disgust. He fell sick with inoperable cancer, giving him little time to fix any of the negative consequences of his efforts. And as he was dying, he asked Juliet to destroy his backup data - but after his death, she used that data to achieve perhaps his greatest fear of all...]]
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* The Woobie: Pretty much every character, though some are more of the [[Jerkass]] variety. This is also invoked in the endgame, where [[spoiler:Juliet demonstrates that she intentionally set up the others to have their lives ruined by Orwell/the investigator, in order to demonstrate to the investigator how easily Orwell could be mishandled and how easily it can cause innocent people to suffer for no reason.]]
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* The Woobie: TheWoobie: Pretty much every character, though some are more of the [[Jerkass]] variety. This is also invoked in the endgame, where [[spoiler:Juliet demonstrates that she intentionally set up the others to have their lives ruined by Orwell/the investigator, in order to demonstrate to the investigator how easily Orwell could be mishandled and how easily it can cause innocent people to suffer for no reason.]]
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** From the first game, [[spoiler:Nina]] could be read this way. No matter your attitude towards them, [[spoiler: her death while trying to escape The Nation with her son (assuming things play out that way)]] is portrayed as tragic and pointless.
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler:Nina, a once-decorated soldier who was wounded on duty, is implied to suffer from PTSD, lost her boyfriend in the line of duty, and was dishonorably discharged, leaving her unemployable except for menial temp work to provide for her son thanks to the Safety Law. This litany of misfortune at the hands of the government makes her a perfect patsy for an anti-government bombing campaign.]]
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler:Nina, The Woobie: Pretty much every character, though some are more of the [[Jerkass]] variety. This is also invoked in the endgame, where [[spoiler:Juliet demonstrates that she intentionally set up the others to have their lives ruined by Orwell/the investigator, in order to demonstrate to the investigator how easily Orwell could be mishandled and how easily it can cause innocent people to suffer for no reason.]]
** Cassandra has a lot of bratty teen qualities, and episode one reveals in no uncertain terms that she [[spoiler:assaulted a policeman]]. However, she is cearly traumitized by that incident and harbors a lot of guilt over it, and Juliet offers the interpretation that [[spoiler:Cassie was only protecting Juliet from the cop]]. She's also the only character who WILL get arrested over the bombings, due to some remarkably circumstantial evidence, and it's clear that Orwell will never let her move on from her criminal history, even if she was acquitted from it.
** For a more JerkassWoobie version, we have Nina. [[spoiler:She initially comes across as a violent, abrasive nutcase who is clearly a fan of fear-mongering, and is ultimately revealed to be the bomber. However, during your investigation you may learn that she was a once-decorated soldier who was wounded on duty, is implied to suffer from PTSD, lost her boyfriend in the line of duty, and was dishonorably discharged, leaving her unemployable except for menial temp work to provide for her son thanks to the Safety Law. This litany of misfortune at the hands of the government makes hera perfect patsy anger and despair much more understandable - and unfortunately made it all too easy for an anti-government bombing campaign.someone to manipulate her for their own goals...]]
** Cassandra has a lot of bratty teen qualities, and episode one reveals in no uncertain terms that she [[spoiler:assaulted a policeman]]. However, she is cearly traumitized by that incident and harbors a lot of guilt over it, and Juliet offers the interpretation that [[spoiler:Cassie was only protecting Juliet from the cop]]. She's also the only character who WILL get arrested over the bombings, due to some remarkably circumstantial evidence, and it's clear that Orwell will never let her move on from her criminal history, even if she was acquitted from it.
** For a more JerkassWoobie version, we have Nina. [[spoiler:She initially comes across as a violent, abrasive nutcase who is clearly a fan of fear-mongering, and is ultimately revealed to be the bomber. However, during your investigation you may learn that she was a once-decorated soldier who was wounded on duty, is implied to suffer from PTSD, lost her boyfriend in the line of duty, and was dishonorably discharged, leaving her unemployable except for menial temp work to provide for her son thanks to the Safety Law. This litany of misfortune at the hands of the government makes her
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* [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]]: [[spoiler: Juliet Kerrington]] is a member of the activist group, Thought, and the true mastermind behind the bombings throughout Bonton. Finding out about Orwell through Abraham Goldfels, the deceased leader of Thought, [[spoiler: Juliet]] plots to shutdown the program. [[DeadPersonImpersonation While impersonating Goldfels]], [[spoiler: Juliet]] convinces Nina to plant bombs throughout Bonton. Later, [[spoiler: she]] sends the investigator and Symes on a goose chae by making them believe that Goldfels is the mastermind behind the bombings before later leading them to find out that Goldfels died months prior to the bombings, letting them know that Orwell leads the government to make rash decisions before getting the full story. On the final day, [[spoiler: Juliet]] argues to the investigator about how flawed a system Orwell is as it easily leads to innocent people being wrongly convicted, pointing out how the investigator saw its flaws first hand. Depending on player choices, [[spoiler: Juliet]] potentially succeeds in convincing the investigator to lead to Orwell being shut down, leading Thought to be promoted to a major political party within The Nation.
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* AlasPoorVillain: Raban Vhart from ''Ignorance Is Strength'' isn't exactly a shining paragon of virtue, but he has a rather tragic backstory that does explain why he has such a hatred for The Nation. [[spoiler: And depending on your actions in the game, you could not only destroy his credibility but his personal life as well]].
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* WhatAnIdiot: Privacy settings or not, [[spoiler:posting an image of herself passionately kissing her husband's brother]] to an account with a real name probably wasn't the best idea for [[spoiler:Karen Vhart]].
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* WhatAnIdiot: Privacy settings or not, [[spoiler:posting an image of herself passionately kissing her husband's brother]] to an account with a real name probably wasn't the best idea for [[spoiler:Karen Vhart]].Vhart]].
* TheWoobie: [[spoiler:Nina, a once-decorated soldier who was wounded on duty, is implied to suffer from PTSD, lost her boyfriend in the line of duty, and was dishonorably discharged, leaving her unemployable except for menial temp work to provide for her son thanks to the Safety Law. This litany of misfortune at the hands of the government makes her a perfect patsy for an anti-government bombing campaign.]]
* TheWoobie: [[spoiler:Nina, a once-decorated soldier who was wounded on duty, is implied to suffer from PTSD, lost her boyfriend in the line of duty, and was dishonorably discharged, leaving her unemployable except for menial temp work to provide for her son thanks to the Safety Law. This litany of misfortune at the hands of the government makes her a perfect patsy for an anti-government bombing campaign.]]
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* WhatAnIdiot: Privacy settings or not, [[spoiler:posting an image of herself passionately kissing your her husband's brother]] to an account with your a real name probably wasn't the best idea for [[spoiler:Karen Vhart]].
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* WhatAnIdiot: Privacy settings or not, [[spoiler:posting an image of you herself passionately kissing your husband's brother]] to an account with your real name probably wasn't the best idea for [[spoiler:Karen Vhart]].
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