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* SciFiGhetto: Don't you ''dare'' call this book science fiction. Sure there are sci-fi elements, but that doesn't make it sci-fi. Why? Because sci-fi is for grubby basement dwellers, and really smart people like this, therefore it must be literature. Don't you ''dare'' call this book speculative fiction/fantasy. Sure there are speculative fiction/ wizard elements, but that doesn't make it speculative fiction/fantasy. Why? Because speculative fiction/fantasy is for people interested in plots that don't require a suspension of disbelief the size of (insert celestial body here) and really forgiving people like this, therefore it must be speculative fiction/fantasy with plot holes.
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** This film came out eleven years before the first volume of a [[Manga/ThePromisedNeverland manga with an oddly similar plot]], PeopleFarms disguised as orphanages and all.
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** This film came out eleven years before the first volume of a [[Manga/ThePromisedNeverland manga with an oddly similar plot]], PeopleFarms disguised as orphanages and all.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Virtually every scene involving the protagonists as young children become this [[https://variety.com/2020/biz/news/adam-kimmel-cinematographer-registered-sex-offender-1234829763/ when the film’s cinematographer was outed as a registered sex offender]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: Virtually every scene involving the protagonists as young children become this [[https://variety.com/2020/biz/news/adam-kimmel-cinematographer-registered-sex-offender-1234829763/ when the film’s cinematographer was outed as a registered sex offender]]. What’s worse is he kept them in the dark about this and no one on the crew knew about it, with director Mark Romanek stating he never would have hired him had he known.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Virtually every scene involving the protagonists as young children become this [[https://variety.com/2020/biz/news/adam-kimmel-cinematographer-registered-sex-offender-1234829763/ when the film’s cinematographer was outed to be a registered sex offender]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: Virtually every scene involving the protagonists as young children become this [[https://variety.com/2020/biz/news/adam-kimmel-cinematographer-registered-sex-offender-1234829763/ when the film’s cinematographer was outed to be as a registered sex offender]].
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* SciFiGhetto: Don't you ''dare'' call this book science fiction. Sure there are sci-fi elements, but that doesn't make it sci-fi. Why? Because sci-fi is for grubby basement dwellers, and really smart people like this, therefore it must be literature. Don't you ''dare'' call this book speculative fiction/fantasy. Sure there are speculative fiction/ wizard elements, but that doesn't make it speculative fiction/fantasy. Why? Because speculative fiction/fantasy is for people interested in plots that don't require a suspension of disbelief the size of (insert celestial body here) and really forgiving people like this, therefore it must be speculative fiction/fantasy with plot holes.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Andrew Garfield as a [[spoiler:clone]] considering his most famous [[SpiderMan character's]] infamous [[ComicBook/TheCloneSaga Clone Saga]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: Andrew Garfield as a [[spoiler:clone]] considering his most famous [[SpiderMan [[Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries character's]] infamous [[ComicBook/TheCloneSaga Clone Saga]].
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* SciFiGhetto: Don't you ''dare'' call this book science fiction. Sure there are sci-fi elements, but that doesn't make it sci-fi. Why? Because sci-fi is for grubby basement dwellers, and really smart people like this, therefore it must be literature. Don't you ''dare'' call this book speculative fiction/fantasy. Sure there are speculative fiction/ wizard elements, but that doesn't make it speculative fiction/fantasy. Why? Because speculative fiction/fantasy is for people interested in plots that don't require a suspension of disbelief the size of (insert celestial body here) and really forgiving people like this, therefore it must be speculative fiction/fantasy with plot holes.
%%* StoicWoobie: Kathy
%%* TearJerker: Is it ever...
%%** And it's not only because of the characters themselves, but for the thousands of other clones they represent.
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%%* TearJerker: Is it ever...
%%** And it's not only because of the characters themselves, but for the thousands of other clones they represent.
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* SciFiGhetto: Don't you ''dare'' call this book science fiction. Sure there are sci-fi elements, but that doesn't make it sci-fi. Why? Because sci-fi is for grubby basement dwellers, and really smart people like this, therefore it must be literature. Don't you ''dare'' call this book speculative fiction/fantasy. Sure there are speculative fiction/ wizard elements, but that doesn't make it speculative fiction/fantasy. Why? Because speculative fiction/fantasy is for people interested in plots that don't require a suspension of disbelief the size of (insert celestial body here) and really forgiving people like this, therefore it must be speculative fiction/fantasy with plot holes.
%%*StoicWoobie: Kathy
%%*Kathy. She loses everyone she loves, but has no choice but to meet it with a StiffUpperLip.
* TearJerker: Is itever...
%%**ever. [[spoiler:Kathy loses everyone she cares about, after she and everyone else she's ever known have lived their whole lives just to be used for the benefit of people they'll never meet, and eventually die, because they're not considered people. And it's just a matter of time before she too has to "complete." The film ends on an even sadder note, with Kathy contemplating how the clones aren't much different than the people they save.]]
---> '''Kathy''': We all complete. Maybe none of us really understand what we've lived through, or feel we've had enough time.
** And it's not only because of the characters themselves, but for the thousands of other clones they represent.
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---> '''Kathy''': We all complete. Maybe none of us really understand what we've lived through, or feel we've had enough time.
** And it's not only because of the characters themselves, but for the thousands of other clones they represent.
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** And it's not only because of the characters themselves, but for the thousands of other clones they represent.
* {{Utopia}} / {{Dystopia}}: {{Deconstructed}}. To us, the lives of the clones must seem pretty dystopic: no family, strict boarding schools, no ability to have children, donating organs then premature death. And they are conditioned to accept this as the only way of life, and that escape causes pain. However, as is Miss Emily's point at the end of the film, human are free of serious illness and live to over 100, which, from the audience's point of view, would usually be regarded as something of a utopian circumstance. Our perception of this world as good or bad is based solely around our protagonists.
** It's not a utopia, by definition, if a major chunk of the society's people are deliberately and uncaringly treated horrifically for the betterment of others. Utopia is all about being an ideal society for ''everyone in it'', so a utopia with a major subset of the population being the exact opposite of ideal cannot be a utopia.
* TearJerker: Is it ever...
** And it's not only because of the characters themselves, but for the thousands of other clones they represent.
* {{Utopia}} / {{Dystopia}}: {{Deconstructed}}. To us, the lives of the clones must seem pretty dystopic: no family, strict boarding schools, no ability to have children, donating organs then premature death. And they are conditioned to accept this as the only way of life, and that escape causes pain. However, as is Miss Emily's point at the end of the film, human are free of serious illness and live to over 100, which, from the audience's point of view, would usually be regarded as something of a utopian circumstance. Our perception of this world as good or bad is based solely around our protagonists.
** It's not a utopia, by definition, if a major chunk of the society's people are deliberately and uncaringly treated horrifically for the betterment of others. Utopia is all about being an ideal society for ''everyone in it'', so a utopia with a major subset of the population being the exact opposite of ideal cannot be a utopia.
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* {{Utopia}} / {{Dystopia}}: {{Deconstructed}}. To us, the lives of the clones must seem pretty dystopic: no family, strict boarding schools, no ability to have children, donating organs then premature death. And they are conditioned to accept this as the only way of life, and that escape causes pain. However, as is Miss Emily's point at the end of the film, human are free of serious illness and live to over 100, which, from the audience's point of view, would usually be regarded as something of a utopian circumstance. Our perception of this world as good or bad is based solely around our protagonists.
** It's not a utopia, by definition, if a major chunk of the society's people are deliberately and uncaringly treated horrifically for the betterment of others. Utopia is all about being an ideal society for ''everyone in it'', so a utopia with a major subset of the population being the exact opposite of ideal cannot be a utopia.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Andrew Garfield as a clone, considering his most famous [[SpiderMan character's]] infamous [[ComicBook/TheCloneSaga Clone Saga]].
* NightmareFuel: the whole thing is pretty chilling, especially the way they refer to [[spoiler:a donor's death as "completing."]]
* NightmareFuel: the whole thing is pretty chilling, especially the way they refer to [[spoiler:a donor's death as "completing."]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: Andrew Garfield as a clone, [[spoiler:clone]] considering his most famous [[SpiderMan character's]] infamous [[ComicBook/TheCloneSaga Clone Saga]].
* ItWasHisSled: Though [[TrailersAlwaysLie most trailers]] played up the love triangle aspect and kept the plot quiet, most audience members already know that [[spoiler:the students are WalkingTransplant clones.]] Some marketing materials, film or book reviews, or even book jackets and book club handouts [[LateArrivalSpoiler assume you know the twist]], which, granted, to many is either a CaptainObviousReveal or dropped so early that it hardly qualifies. It has been more or less spoiled out on the trope page for your convenience.
* NightmareFuel:the The whole thing is pretty chilling, especially the way they refer to [[spoiler:a donor's death as "completing."]]
* ItWasHisSled: Though [[TrailersAlwaysLie most trailers]] played up the love triangle aspect and kept the plot quiet, most audience members already know that [[spoiler:the students are WalkingTransplant clones.]] Some marketing materials, film or book reviews, or even book jackets and book club handouts [[LateArrivalSpoiler assume you know the twist]], which, granted, to many is either a CaptainObviousReveal or dropped so early that it hardly qualifies. It has been more or less spoiled out on the trope page for your convenience.
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* SciFiGhetto: Don't you ''dare'' call this book science fiction. Sure there are sci-fi elements, but that doesn't make it sci-fi. Why? Because sci-fi is for grubby basement dwellers, and really smart people like this, therefore it must be literature. Don't you ''dare'' call this book speculative fiction/fantasy. Sure there are speculative fiction/ wizard elements, but that doesn't make it speculative fiction/fantasy. Why? Because speculative fiction/fantasy is for people interested in plots that don't requie a suspension of disbelief the size of (insert celestial body here) and really forgiving people like this, therefore it must be speculative fiction/fantasy with plot holes.
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* SciFiGhetto: Don't you ''dare'' call this book science fiction. Sure there are sci-fi elements, but that doesn't make it sci-fi. Why? Because sci-fi is for grubby basement dwellers, and really smart people like this, therefore it must be literature. Don't you ''dare'' call this book speculative fiction/fantasy. Sure there are speculative fiction/ wizard elements, but that doesn't make it speculative fiction/fantasy. Why? Because speculative fiction/fantasy is for people interested in plots that don't requie require a suspension of disbelief the size of (insert celestial body here) and really forgiving people like this, therefore it must be speculative fiction/fantasy with plot holes.
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* SciFiGhetto: Don't you ''dare'' call this book science fiction. Sure there are sci-fi elements, but that doesn't make it sci-fi. Why? Because sci-fi is for grubby basement dwellers, and really smart people like this, therefore it must be literature.
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* SciFiGhetto: Don't you ''dare'' call this book science fiction. Sure there are sci-fi elements, but that doesn't make it sci-fi. Why? Because sci-fi is for grubby basement dwellers, and really smart people like this, therefore it must be literature. Don't you ''dare'' call this book speculative fiction/fantasy. Sure there are speculative fiction/ wizard elements, but that doesn't make it speculative fiction/fantasy. Why? Because speculative fiction/fantasy is for people interested in plots that don't requie a suspension of disbelief the size of (insert celestial body here) and really forgiving people like this, therefore it must be speculative fiction/fantasy with plot holes.
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** It's not a utopia, by definition, if a major chunk of the society's people are deliberately and uncaringly treated horrifically for the betterment of others. Utopia is all about being an ideal society for ''everyone in it'', so a utopia with a major subset of the population being the exact opposite of ideal cannot be a utopia.
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** It's not a utopia, by definition, if a major chunk of the society's people are deliberately and uncaringly treated horrifically for the betterment of others. Utopia is all about being an ideal society for ''everyone in it'', so a utopia with a major subset of the population being the exact opposite of ideal cannot be a utopia.
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** It's not a utopia, by definition, if a major chunk of the society's people are deliberately and uncaringly treated horrifically for the betterment of others. Utopia is all about being an ideal society for ''everyone in it'', so a utopia with a major subset of the population being the exact opposite of ideal cannot be a utopia.utopia.
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* {{Utopia}} / {{Dystopia}}: {{Deconstructed}}. To us, the lives of the clones must seem pretty dystopic: no family, strict boarding schools, no ability to have children, donating organs then premature death. And they are conditioned to accept this as the only way of life, and that escape causes pain. However, as is Miss Emily's point at the end of the film, human are free of serious illness and live to over 100, which, from the audience's point of view, would usually be regarded as something of a utopian circumstance. Our perception of this world as good or bad is based solely around our protagonists.
** It's not a utopia, by definition, if a major chunk of the society's people are deliberately and uncaringly treated horrifically for the betterment of others. Utopia is all about being an ideal society for ''everyone in it'', so a utopia with a major subset of the population being the exact opposite of ideal cannot be a utopia.
** It's not a utopia, by definition, if a major chunk of the society's people are deliberately and uncaringly treated horrifically for the betterment of others. Utopia is all about being an ideal society for ''everyone in it'', so a utopia with a major subset of the population being the exact opposite of ideal cannot be a utopia.
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* {{Utopia}} / {{Dystopia}}: {{Deconstructed}}. To us, the lives of the clones must seem pretty dystopic: no family, strict boarding schools, no ability to have children, donating organs then premature death. And they are conditioned to accept this as the only way of life, and that escape causes pain. However, as is Miss Emily's point at the end of the film, human are free of serious illness and live to over 100, which, from the audience's point of view, would usually be regarded as something of a utopian circumstance. Our perception of this world as good or bad is based solely around our protagonists.
** It's not a utopia, by definition, if a major chunk of the society's people are deliberately and uncaringly treated horrifically for the betterment of others. Utopia is all about being an ideal society for ''everyone in it'', so a utopia with a major subset of the population being the exact opposite of ideal cannot be a utopia.
* {{Utopia}} / {{Dystopia}}: {{Deconstructed}}. To us, the lives of the clones must seem pretty dystopic: no family, strict boarding schools, no ability to have children, donating organs then premature death. And they are conditioned to accept this as the only way of life, and that escape causes pain. However, as is Miss Emily's point at the end of the film, human are free of serious illness and live to over 100, which, from the audience's point of view, would usually be regarded as something of a utopian circumstance. Our perception of this world as good or bad is based solely around our protagonists.
** It's not a utopia, by definition, if a major chunk of the society's people are deliberately and uncaringly treated horrifically for the betterment of others. Utopia is all about being an ideal society for ''everyone in it'', so a utopia with a major subset of the population being the exact opposite of ideal cannot be a utopia.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Andrew Garfield as a clone, considering his most famous [[SpiderMan character's]] infamous {{CloneSaga}}.
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** And it's not only because of the characters themselves, but for the thousands of other clones they represent.
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