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Idiot Plot now Flame Bait, Strawman means created to be wrong so normally/previously non-straw characters don't count.


* IdiotPlot: The whole conflict of this episode relies on the idea of a tomboy farmer with no real understanding of the world of fashion being asked to judge a fashion show due to her opinions in practicality. This is dumb on the part of Rarity because Applejack has made her disdain for fashion well known in numerous episodes before this one, and it's poor continuity on the part of the writers because in "Simple Ways" Applejack is shown to be perfectly capable of understanding fashion and putting together a nice outfit, so her ignorance in this episode makes no sense.

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* IdiotPlot: The whole conflict of this episode relies on InformedWrongness: Applejack's comments are supposed to be insulting and not make make sense in the idea context of a tomboy farmer with no real understanding of the world of fashion being asked to judge a fashion show due to show. But her opinions mistaking "artfully" messy hair for real messy hair is somewhat understandable. And considering how often real live women had wardrobe malfunctions in practicality. This is dumb on the part front of Rarity a crowd or camera because Applejack has made her disdain for fashion well known in numerous episodes before this one, and it's poor continuity on the part of the writers because in "Simple Ways" Applejack is shown dress was too odd to be perfectly capable of understanding fashion and putting together a nice outfit, so her ignorance in this episode makes no sense.worn properly, Applejack's obsession with practicality seems somewhat less irrational.



* StrawmanHasAPoint:
** Most of Applejack's comments don't make sense in the context of a fashion show, but mistaking "artfully" messy hair for real messy hair is somewhat understandable.
** Considering how often women in the real world have had wardrobe malfunctions in front of a crowd or camera because the dress was too odd to be worn properly, Applejack's obsession with practicality seems somewhat less irrational.
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* BrokenBase: Fandom is split about who has to take the blame. Rarity, who picked Applejack of all ponies as judge for a fashion show in the first place? Applejack, who grabbed the JerkassBall and crossed the line by insulting fashion in general? Or both because of the general storytelling (especially with the episode being written by a first-time writer for the show)?

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* BrokenBase: Fandom is Opinions are split about over who has to take the blame. Rarity, who picked Applejack of all ponies as judge for a fashion show in the first place? Applejack, who grabbed the JerkassBall and crossed the line by insulting fashion in general? Or both because of the general storytelling (especially with the episode being written by a first-time writer for the show)?

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* BrokenBase:
** Fandom is split about who has to take the blame. Rarity, who picked Applejack of all ponies as judge for a fashion show in the first place? Applejack, who grabbed the JerkassBall and crossed the line by insulting fashion in general? Or both because of the general storytelling (especially with the episode being written by a first-time writer for the show)?

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* BrokenBase:
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BrokenBase: Fandom is split about who has to take the blame. Rarity, who picked Applejack of all ponies as judge for a fashion show in the first place? Applejack, who grabbed the JerkassBall and crossed the line by insulting fashion in general? Or both because of the general storytelling (especially with the episode being written by a first-time writer for the show)?
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* OneSceneWonder: Strawberry Sunrise doesn't even have a minute of screentime, but she's so over the top with how smug she is about her hatred of apples and her false modesty to Applejack that her scene ended up being memorable to many fans, with several of them starting to portray her as Appplejack's SitcomArchNemesis in fan works.

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* OneSceneWonder: Strawberry Sunrise doesn't even have a minute of screentime, but she's so over the top with how smug she is about her hatred of apples and her false modesty to Applejack that her scene ended up being memorable to many fans, with several of them starting to portray her as Appplejack's Applejack's SitcomArchNemesis in fan works.

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** Fandom is split about who has to take the blame. Rarity, who picked Applejack of all ponies as judge for a fashion show in the first place? Applejack, who grabbed the JerkassBall and crossed the line insulting fashion in general? Or both because of the general writing of the episode (especially with the episode being written by a first-time writer for the show)?
** The episode in general. Some people enjoyed it for its moral about opinions and how sometimes BrutalHonesty is not the way to go (especially towards those involved in the arts). Others were turned off by the above-mentioned issues (Rarity asking Applejack to judge a fashion show; Applejack holding the JerkassBall in terms of her judging), Rarity's solution to have Applejack learn her lesson (having her confront someone who doesn't like apples), and the whole "Everyone Wins" ending.

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** Fandom is split about who has to take the blame. Rarity, who picked Applejack of all ponies as judge for a fashion show in the first place? Applejack, who grabbed the JerkassBall and crossed the line by insulting fashion in general? Or both because of the general writing of the episode storytelling (especially with the episode being written by a first-time writer for the show)?
** The episode in general. Some people enjoyed it for its moral about opinions and how sometimes BrutalHonesty is not the way to go (especially towards those involved in the arts). Others were turned off by the above-mentioned issues (Rarity asking Applejack to judge a fashion show; Applejack holding the JerkassBall in terms of her judging), Rarity's solution to have Applejack learn her lesson (having her confront someone who doesn't like apples), and the whole "Everyone Wins" ending.
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* MemeticMutation: The brief few seconds of Rarity shredding heavy metal electric guitar (on an accoustic guitar, somehow) is the most memorable part of the episode and has lent itself to lots of videos and image macros putting music and lyrics to her playing.

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* MemeticMutation: The brief few seconds of Rarity shredding heavy metal electric guitar (on an accoustic guitar, somehow) is the most memorable part of the episode and acoustic guitar with only two strings) has lent itself to lots of videos and image macros macros, putting music and lyrics to her playing.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Throughout the episode, Lily Lace, in true ValleyGirl style, misuses the word "literally" when she means "figuratively." Applejack eventually calls her out on it and even references [[YouKeepUsingThatWord the famous line]] from ''Film/ThePrincessBride'' to make her point. But Lily Lace's usage in that (and only that) specific case--"Applejack literally did it all by herself"--is ''slightly accurate'', as Applejack ''did'' round up the judges and designers on her own[[note]]but not completely accurate, since for example the workers still had to raise the stage again by themselves, so while not figurative, the affirmation is hyperbolic[[/note]]. It's a subtle reminder of the fact that throughout the episode, Applejack doesn't know what she's talking about with regard to the designers.
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* MemeticMutation: The brief few seconds of Rarity shredding heavy metal electric guitar (on an accoustic guitar, somehow) is the most memorable part of the episode and has lent itself to lots of videos and image macros putting music and lyrics to her playing.
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* IdiotPlot: The whole conflict of this episode relies on the idea of a tomboy farmer with no real understanding of the world of fashion being asked to judge a fashion show due to her opinions in practicality. It's especially absurd since Applejack has made her disdain for fashion well known in numerous episodes before this one. Also, in ''Simple Ways'', Applejack is shown to be perfectly capable of understanding fashion, and capable of putting together a nice outfit, so her ignorance in this episode is even more baffling.

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* IdiotPlot: The whole conflict of this episode relies on the idea of a tomboy farmer with no real understanding of the world of fashion being asked to judge a fashion show due to her opinions in practicality. It's especially absurd since This is dumb on the part of Rarity because Applejack has made her disdain for fashion well known in numerous episodes before this one. Also, one, and it's poor continuity on the part of the writers because in ''Simple Ways'', "Simple Ways" Applejack is shown to be perfectly capable of understanding fashion, fashion and capable of putting together a nice outfit, so her ignorance in this episode is even more baffling.makes no sense.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: There may be a few issues with the way it's delivered, but there are indeed a LOT of wannabe critics who could stand to learn this episode's lesson: '''Be respectful and thoughtful with your opinions.''' People work hard on what you're critiquing, your opinions are not more important than others', and there's a difference between critiquing a work and simply insulting it. "It's my opinion" is not a free pass to be a {{jerkass}}.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: There may be a few issues with the way it's delivered, but a look at the HateDumb page should make it clear that there are indeed a LOT of wannabe critics who could stand to learn this episode's lesson: '''Be respectful and thoughtful with your opinions.''' People work hard on what you're critiquing, your opinions are not more important than others', and there's a difference between critiquing a work and simply insulting it. "It's my opinion" is not a free pass to be a {{jerkass}}.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: There may be a few issues with the way it's delivered, but a look at the HateDumb page should make it clear that there are indeed a LOT of wannabe critics who could stand to learn this episode's lesson: '''Be respectful and thoughtful with your opinions.''' People work hard on what you're critiquing, your opinions are not more important than others', and there's a difference between critiquing a work and simply insulting it. "It's my opinion" is not a free pass to be a {{jerkass}}.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Throughout the episode, Lily Lace, in true ValleyGirl style, misuses the word "literally" when she means "figuratively." Applejack eventually calls her out on it and even references [[YouKeepUsingThatWord the famous line]] from ''Film/ThePrincessBride'' to make her point. But Lily Lace's usage in that (and only that) specific case--"Applejack literally did it all by herself"--is ''slightly accurate'', as Applejack ''did'' round up the judges and designers on her own[[note]]but not completely accurate, since for example the workers still had to raise the stage again by themselves, so while not figurative, the afirmation is hyperbolic[[/note]]. It's a subtle reminder of the fact that throughout the episode, Applejack doesn't know what she's talking about with regard to the designers.

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* FridgeBrilliance: Throughout the episode, Lily Lace, in true ValleyGirl style, misuses the word "literally" when she means "figuratively." Applejack eventually calls her out on it and even references [[YouKeepUsingThatWord the famous line]] from ''Film/ThePrincessBride'' to make her point. But Lily Lace's usage in that (and only that) specific case--"Applejack literally did it all by herself"--is ''slightly accurate'', as Applejack ''did'' round up the judges and designers on her own[[note]]but not completely accurate, since for example the workers still had to raise the stage again by themselves, so while not figurative, the afirmation affirmation is hyperbolic[[/note]]. It's a subtle reminder of the fact that throughout the episode, Applejack doesn't know what she's talking about with regard to the designers.
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Since when is Applejack a villain? One can grab a Jerkass Ball without being a villain. Besides, she crossed the line from "giving advice" to "backseat designer" when she grabbed Lily Lace's hat and shook all its feathers off.


* DesignatedVillain: Applejack is suppose to learn AnAesop about BrutalHonesty after she angrily dismisses the work of the fashion show contestants, but she acts that way because she was encouraged to do so by Rarity. Applejack says several times at the beginning that she does not think she's the right pony to judge a fashion show, and she accepts the role only at Rarity's insistence. Then when she starts questioning the impracticality of the outfits, Rarity doesn't immediately explain the importance of creativity over practicality and instead says that's what she wants out of Applejack. So Applejack continues doing what she thought her friend wanted her to do until she gets so fed up with the (from her encouraged standpoint) silly design choices and dismissal of function over form that she blows a gasket.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Throughout the episode, Lily Lace, in true ValleyGirl style, misuses the word "literally" when she means "figuratively." Applejack eventually calls her out on it and even references [[YouKeepUsingThatWord the famous line]] from ''Film/ThePrincessBride'' to make her point. But Lily Lace's usage in that (and only that) specific case--"Applejack literally did it all by herself"--is ''completely accurate'', as Applejack ''did'' round up the judges and designers on her own. It's a subtle reminder of the fact that throughout the episode, Applejack doesn't know what she's talking about with regard to the designers.

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* FridgeBrilliance: Throughout the episode, Lily Lace, in true ValleyGirl style, misuses the word "literally" when she means "figuratively." Applejack eventually calls her out on it and even references [[YouKeepUsingThatWord the famous line]] from ''Film/ThePrincessBride'' to make her point. But Lily Lace's usage in that (and only that) specific case--"Applejack literally did it all by herself"--is ''completely ''slightly accurate'', as Applejack ''did'' round up the judges and designers on her own.own[[note]]but not completely accurate, since for example the workers still had to raise the stage again by themselves, so while not figurative, the afirmation is hyperbolic[[/note]]. It's a subtle reminder of the fact that throughout the episode, Applejack doesn't know what she's talking about with regard to the designers.

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* DesignatedVillain: Applejack is suppose to learn AnAesop about BrutalHonesty after she angrily dismisses the work of the fashion show contestants, but she acts that way because she was encouraged to do so by Rarity. Applejack says several times at the beginning that she does not think she's the right pony to judge a fashion show, and she accepts the role only at Rarity's insistence. Then when she starts questioning the impracticality of the outfits, Rarity doesn't immediately explain the importance of creativity over practicality and instead says that's what she wants out of Applejack. So Applejack continues doing what she thought her friend wanted her to do until she gets so fed up with the (from her encouraged standpoint) silly design choices and dismissal of function over form that she blows a gasket.



* DesignatedVillain: Applejack is suppose to learn AnAesop about BrutalHonesty after she angrily dismisses the work of the fashion show contestants, but she acts that way because she was encouraged to do so by Rarity. Applejack says several times at the beginning that she does not think she's the right pony to judge a fashion show, and she accepts the role only at Rarity's insistence. Then when she starts questioning the impracticality of the outfits, Rarity doesn't immediately explain the importance of creativity over practicality and instead says that's what she wants out of Applejack. So Applejack continues doing what she thought her friend wanted her to do until she gets so fed up with the (from her encouraged standpoint) silly design choices and dismissal of function over form that she blows a gasket.
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* OneSceneWonder: Strawberry Sunrise doesn't even have a minute of screentime, but she's so over the top with how smug she is about her hatred of apples and her false modesty to Applejack that her scene ended up being memorable to many fans, with several of them starting to portray her as Appplejack's SitcomArchNemesis in fan works.
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* IdiotPlot: The whole conflict of this episode relies on the idea of a tomboy farmer with no real understanding of the world of fashion being asked to judge a fashion show due to her opinions in practicality. It's especially absurd since Applejack has made her disdain for fashion well known in numerous episodes before this one.

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* IdiotPlot: The whole conflict of this episode relies on the idea of a tomboy farmer with no real understanding of the world of fashion being asked to judge a fashion show due to her opinions in practicality. It's especially absurd since Applejack has made her disdain for fashion well known in numerous episodes before this one. Also, in ''Simple Ways'', Applejack is shown to be perfectly capable of understanding fashion, and capable of putting together a nice outfit, so her ignorance in this episode is even more baffling.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Did Strawberry Sunrise really hate apples, or was merely trolling Applejack to demonstrate how brutal honesty can be hurtful? [[TakeAThirdOption Or is she just exaggerating her dislike to help Rarity make her point?]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Did Strawberry Sunrise really hate apples, or was merely trolling Applejack to demonstrate how brutal honesty can be hurtful? [[TakeAThirdOption Or is she just exaggerating her dislike to help Rarity make her point?]]point?]] Or was she simply stating her honest opinion, no more and no less? It bears mentioning that initially, she simply states she doesn't like apples, and only gets increasingly nasty as Applejack does.

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