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** Creator/ConchataFerrell as the truck driver who turns out to be holding illegal immigrants.
** Creator/MichaelPena as Ernesto, the immigrant Kramer gifts his watch to.
** Creator/BradleyWhitford as Carl Witnaur, post-''Film/BillyMadison'' but pre-''[[Series/TheWestWing West Wing]]''.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/BradleyWhitford doing a "run and talk" with President Haney two years before the WalkAndTalk [[Series/TheWestWing became practically its own trope.]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/BradleyWhitford doing a "run and talk" with President Haney two years before the WalkAndTalk [[Series/TheWestWing became practically its own trademark trope.]].]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/BradleyWhitford doing a "run and talk" with President Haney two years before [[Series/TheWestWing the "walk and talk" became practically its own trope.]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/BradleyWhitford doing a "run and talk" with President Haney two years before the WalkAndTalk [[Series/TheWestWing the "walk and talk" became practically its own trope.]].
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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Yes, yes the Army ''could'' use a few of those gals. The Army probably did use a few of those gals when they were questioning or closeted. But now, they are free to serve openly!
* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/BradleyWhitford doing a “run and talk” with President Haney two years before [[Series/TheWestWing the “walk and talk” became practically its own trope.]]
* ValuesResonance: While Ralph Fleming is initially seen playing up the CampGay as Dorothy in the gay pride parade, him turning out to be [[spoiler: the literal ChekhovsGunman who saves Kramer and Douglas at the climax]] stands out considerably well, given the fact that other movies in 1996 would have still had him as solely a joke (if they mentioned his sexuality at all).
* WTHCastingAgency: While she was close friends with Creator/JamesGarner in RealLife, casting Creator/LaurenBacall as the wife of Creator/JackLemmon can be a serious headscratcher, given her screen persona has always been noticeably tougher than Lemmon’s, making it harder to believe them as a married couple, much less a President and his First Lady.

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Yes, yes yes, the Army ''could'' use a few of those gals. The Army probably did use a few of those gals when they were questioning or closeted. But now, they are free to serve openly!
* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/BradleyWhitford doing a “run "run and talk” talk" with President Haney two years before [[Series/TheWestWing the “walk "walk and talk” talk" became practically its own trope.]]
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* QuestionableCasting: While she was close friends with Creator/JamesGarner in RealLife, casting Creator/LaurenBacall as the wife of Creator/JackLemmon can be a serious headscratcher, given her screen persona has always been noticeably tougher than Lemmon's, making it harder to believe them as a married couple, much less a President and his First Lady.
* ValuesResonance: While Ralph Fleming is initially seen playing up the CampGay as Dorothy in the gay pride parade, him turning out to be [[spoiler: the literal ChekhovsGunman who saves Kramer and Douglas at the climax]] stands out considerably well, given the fact that other movies in 1996 would have still had him as solely a joke (if they mentioned his sexuality at all).
* WTHCastingAgency: While she was close friends with Creator/JamesGarner in RealLife, casting Creator/LaurenBacall as the wife of Creator/JackLemmon can be a serious headscratcher, given her screen persona has always been noticeably tougher than Lemmon’s, making it harder to believe them as a married couple, much less a President and his First Lady.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/BradleyWhitford doing a “run and talk” with President Haney two years before [[Series/TheWestWing the “walk and talk” became practically its own trope.]]
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* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: While she was close friends with Creator/JamesGarner in RealLife, casting Creator/LaurenBacall as the wife of Creator/JackLemmon can be a serious headscratcher, given her screen persona is noticeably tougher than Lemmon’s, making it harder to believe them as a married couple, much less a President and his First Lady.

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* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: WTHCastingAgency: While she was close friends with Creator/JamesGarner in RealLife, casting Creator/LaurenBacall as the wife of Creator/JackLemmon can be a serious headscratcher, given her screen persona is has always been noticeably tougher than Lemmon’s, making it harder to believe them as a married couple, much less a President and his First Lady.
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Values Resonance and WTH Casting Agency


* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Yes, yes the Army ''could'' use a few of those gals. The Army probably did use a few of those gals when they were questioning or closeted. But now, they are free to serve openly!

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Yes, yes the Army ''could'' use a few of those gals. The Army probably did use a few of those gals when they were questioning or closeted. But now, they are free to serve openly!openly!
* ValuesResonance: While Ralph Fleming is initially seen playing up the CampGay as Dorothy in the gay pride parade, him turning out to be [[spoiler: the literal ChekhovsGunman who saves Kramer and Douglas at the climax]] stands out considerably well, given the fact that other movies in 1996 would have still had him as solely a joke (if they mentioned his sexuality at all).
* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: While she was close friends with Creator/JamesGarner in RealLife, casting Creator/LaurenBacall as the wife of Creator/JackLemmon can be a serious headscratcher, given her screen persona is noticeably tougher than Lemmon’s, making it harder to believe them as a married couple, much less a President and his First Lady.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The jokes about President Douglas' promiscuity are a lot harder to watch now that President Bill Clinton, who Douglas is modeled after, is more or less acknowledged to have committed sexual misconduct before, during, and after his presidency.
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* FridgeBrilliance: If you look closely, you'll notice that Douglas tends to be situated on the left side of the screen while Kramer is often seen on the right side. For example, the scene when they meet on Air Force One, from the perspective of the audience, Douglas sits in the left seat and Kramer in the right. Douglas is a Democrat, which is the mainstream left wing of American politics, while Kramer is a Republican, the right wing.
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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Yes, yes the Army ''could'' use a few of those gals. And now, they are free to serve openly!

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Yes, yes the Army ''could'' use a few of those gals. And The Army probably did use a few of those gals when they were questioning or closeted. But now, they are free to serve openly!
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The specific question was "since former presidents have had secret service protection", which started in 1965.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: After slipping away from his Secret Service detail to conduct an affair, former President Douglas says there isn't any danger by asking how many assassination attempts have been made on former presidents. The lead bodyguard responds saying there haven been any. During the 1912 presidential campaign, John Schrank shot former President Teddy Roosevelt prior to him giving a campaign speech. Of course, this being [[CrazyAwesome Teddy]] [[MadeOfIron Roosevelt]], he survived and even gave the 90 minute(!) speech before seeking medical attention.
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They each explicitly served only one term. The 22nd ammendment does not say the two allowed terms have to be consecutive.


* ArtisticLicenseLaw: Per the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution Twenty-Second amendment to the US Constitution]], a former president cannot run for the office again, nor can a president seek a third term. There ''was'' one case of a former President being re-elected (Grover Cleveland), but he was elected prior to the Amendment.
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: Per the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution Twenty-Second amendment to the US Constitution]], a former president cannot run for the office again, nor can a president seek a third term. There ''was'' one case of a former President being re-elected (Grover Cleveland), but he was elected prior to the Amendment.
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Amendment 22 limits presidents to two four-year terms, and since both Kramer and Douglas have only served a term each, there's no reason why either of them couldn't run again.


** Likewise, the ending (while funny), would be outlawed under Amendment 22 of the US Constitution. No former president can be re-elected to office if they already served a term.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: After slipping away from his Secret Service detail to conduct an affair, former President Douglas says there isn't any danger by asking how many assassination attempts have been made on former presidents. The lead bodyguard responds saying there haven been any. During the 1912 presidential campaign, John Schrank shot former President Teddy Roosevelt prior to him giving a campaign speech. Of course, this being [[CrazyAwesome Teddy]] [[MadeOfIron Roosevelt]], he survived and even gave the 90 minute(!) speech before seeking medical attention.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: After slipping away from his Secret Service detail to conduct an affair, former President Douglas says there isn't any danger by asking how many assassination attempts have been made on former presidents. The lead bodyguard responds saying there haven been any. During the 1912 presidential campaign, John Schrank shot former President Teddy Roosevelt prior to him giving a campaign speech. Of course, this being [[CrazyAwesome Teddy]] [[MadeOfIron Roosevelt]], he survived and even gave the 90 minute(!) speech before seeking medical attention.attention.
** Likewise, the ending (while funny), would be outlawed under Amendment 22 of the US Constitution. No former president can be re-elected to office if they already served a term.
* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Yes, yes the Army ''could'' use a few of those gals. And now, they are free to serve openly!
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* CriticalResearchFailure: After slipping away from his Secret Service detail to conduct an affair, former President Douglas says there isn't any danger by asking how many assassination attempts have been made on former presidents. The lead bodyguard responds saying there haven been any. During the 1912 presidential campaign, John Schrank shot former President Teddy Roosevelt prior to him giving a campaign speech. Of course, this being [[CrazyAwesome Teddy]] [[MadeOfIron Roosevelt]], he survived and even gave the 90 minute(!) speech before seeking medical attention.
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* HarsherInHindsight: When Kramer is arguing with Douglas in his (Kramer's) daughter's house, Kramer points out that Douglas was the one sitting next to [[spoiler: Charlie Reynolds']] dead body, Douglas sarcastically says that he enjoys spending time with dead people and that he would get perked right up if Kramer died at that moment. Jack Lemmon, the actor who played Kramer, died 5 years later.
** This doesn't truly qualify as an example of that trope. Everyone in the entire world dies someday. A death is only harsher in hindsight if it bears eerie similarity to a death or dire event in the script. Jack Lemmon died of old age, not from being shot in the driver's seat of a car; therefore, not HarsherInHindsight.
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* HarsherInHindsight: When Kramer is arguing with Douglas in his (Kramer's) daughter's house, Kramer points out that Douglas was the one sitting next to [[spoiler: Charlie Reynolds']] dead body, Douglas sarcastically says that he enjoys spending time with dead people and that he would get perked right up if Kramer died at that moment. Jack Lemmon, the actor who played Kramer, died 5 years later.

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* HarsherInHindsight: When Kramer is arguing with Douglas in his (Kramer's) daughter's house, Kramer points out that Douglas was the one sitting next to [[spoiler: Charlie Reynolds']] dead body, Douglas sarcastically says that he enjoys spending time with dead people and that he would get perked right up if Kramer died at that moment. Jack Lemmon, the actor who played Kramer, died 5 years later.later.
**This doesn't truly qualify as an example of that trope. Everyone in the entire world dies someday. A death is only harsher in hindsight if it bears eerie similarity to a death or dire event in the script. Jack Lemmon died of old age, not from being shot in the driver's seat of a car; therefore, not HarsherInHindsight.
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* HarsherinHindsight: When Kramer is arguing with Douglas in his (Kramer's) daughter's house, Kramer points out that Douglas was the one sitting next to [[spoiler: Charlie Reynolds']] dead body, Douglas sarcastically says that he enjoys spending time with dead people and that he would get perked right up if Kramer died at that moment. Jack Lemmon, the actor who played Kramer, died 5 years later.

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* HarsherinHindsight: HarsherInHindsight: When Kramer is arguing with Douglas in his (Kramer's) daughter's house, Kramer points out that Douglas was the one sitting next to [[spoiler: Charlie Reynolds']] dead body, Douglas sarcastically says that he enjoys spending time with dead people and that he would get perked right up if Kramer died at that moment. Jack Lemmon, the actor who played Kramer, died 5 years later.
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* HarsherinHindsight: When Kramer is arguing with Douglas in his (Kramer's) daughter's house, Kramer points out that Douglas was the one sitting next to [[spoiler: Charlie Reynolds']] dead body, Douglas sarcastically says that he enjoys spending time with dead people and that he would get perked right up if Kramer died at that moment. Jack Lemmon, the actor who played Kramer, died 5 years later.

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