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* {{Sequelitis}}: Where ''Karl & Co'' has enough fans that it's more a ContestedSequel, ''Karl III'' was hated by critics and audiences alike. The tonal shift was not well received, and the decision to axe all the more eccentric and likeable characters to only focus on a rich and successful Karl didn't win the series any fans either. As mentioned above, the only aspect of the show the fans liked was Bjørn Sundquist as Roy Butler, and his chemistry with Nils Vogt as Karl -- but this wasn't nearly enough to save the series, which is seen as Tore Ryen's biggest failure to date.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Henry's romance with Elna came out of nowhere in the SeriesFinale. It was pretty obviously put there just becuase the showrunners thought a WeddingFinale would make a nice ending to the show.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Henry's romance with Elna came out of nowhere in the SeriesFinale. It was pretty obviously put there just becuase because the showrunners thought a WeddingFinale would make a nice ending to the show.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Henry's romance with Elna came out of nowhere in the SeriesFinale. It was pretty obviously put there just becuase the showrunners thought a WeddingFinale would make a nice ending to the show.
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* ContestedSequel:
** ''Karl & Co.'' It was never as popular as ''Mot i brøstet,'' and only lasted for about half as many episodes, but it still had its fans. Even today, viewers can never agree whether it was on par or almost on par with the original, whether it was an EvenBetterSequel, or whether it was total garbage.
** Totally averted for ''Karl III'', which ''everyone'' hates.
** ''Karl & Co.'' It was never as popular as ''Mot i brøstet,'' and only lasted for about half as many episodes, but it still had its fans. Even today, viewers can never agree whether it was on par or almost on par with the original, whether it was an EvenBetterSequel, or whether it was total garbage.
** Totally averted for ''Karl III'', which ''everyone'' hates.
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* ContestedSequel:
**ContestedSequel: ''Karl & Co.'' It was never as popular as ''Mot i brøstet,'' and only lasted for about half as many episodes, but it still had its fans. Even today, viewers can never agree whether it was on par or almost on par with the original, whether it was an EvenBetterSequel, or whether it was total garbage.
** Totally averted for ''Karl III'', which ''everyone'' hates.garbage.
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** Totally averted for ''Karl III'', which ''everyone'' hates.
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* CriticalDissonance: None of the three series was even ''remotely'' liked by critics. ''Mot i brøstet'' especially was the butt of many jokes among professionals and for much of its running time was used as the prime example of how lousy Norwegian TV was. Fans still adored it though; ratings were consistently high and even now lots of people remember the series and characters fondly.
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* CriticalDissonance: None of the three series was even ''remotely'' liked by critics. ''Mot i brøstet'' especially was the butt of many jokes among professionals and for much of its running time was used as the prime example of how lousy Norwegian TV was. Fans still adored it though; ratings were consistently high and even now lots of people remember the series and characters fondly.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Almost nobody remembers ''Radio 2'' these days. If they do, it's either because of Tore Ryen's CreatorBreakdown or for the atrocious way producer TV2 treated its actors. Already before the series premiered, three of the main actors were fired for being "too old" for the YoungerAndHipper tone TV2 wanted, leading to five episodes needing to be re-filmed with the younger replacement actors. Then, the ordered second season was cancelled without the actors being informed of it, leading to problems for some of them, as they'd declined other offers or even quit former jobs in order to be in the series.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Almost nobody remembers ''Radio 2'' these days. If they do, it's either because of Tore Ryen's CreatorBreakdown or for the atrocious way producer TV2 and TV station [=TV2=] treated its actors. Already before the series premiered, three of the main actors were fired for being "too old" for the YoungerAndHipper tone TV2 [=TV2=] wanted, leading to five episodes needing to be re-filmed with the younger replacement actors. Then, the ordered second season was cancelled without the actors being informed of it, leading to problems for some of them, as they'd declined other offers or even quit former jobs in order to be in the series.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Almost nobody remembers ''Radio 2'' these days. If they do, it's either because of Tore Ryen's CreatorBreakdown or for the atrocious way producer TV2 treated its actors. Already before the series premiered, three of the main actors were fired for being "too old" for the YoungerAndHipper tone TV2 wanted, leading to five episodes needing to be re-filmed with the younger replacement actors. Then, the ordered second season was cancelled without the actors being informed of it, leading to problems for some of them, as they'd declined other offers or even quit former jobs in order to be in the series.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Elna, the only character on the show who was treated to loud cheers from the StudioAudience ''every single time she entered a scene.'' Small wonder she got larger and larger roles as the series went on.
** The only thing about ''Karl III'' that the audience actually liked was the deadpan Roy Butler, played by Bjørn Sundquist. General consensus is that both the actor and the character were too good for the series they appeared in.
** Elna, the only character on the show who was treated to loud cheers from the StudioAudience ''every single time she entered a scene.'' Small wonder she got larger and larger roles as the series went on.
** The only thing about ''Karl III'' that the audience actually liked was the deadpan Roy Butler, played by Bjørn Sundquist. General consensus is that both the actor and the character were too good for the series they appeared in.
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* ValuesDissonance: You can ''tell'' this series was made in the 1990s, and that it wasn't particularly FairForItsDay either. Lots of casual misogyny, some casual racism, a bit of mild homophobia and transphobia, and quite a bit of blatant body shaming going on in some of the episodes.
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* ValuesDissonance: You can ''tell'' this series that ''Mot i brøstet'' was made in the 1990s, and that it wasn't particularly FairForItsDay either. Lots of casual misogyny, some casual racism, a bit of mild homophobia and transphobia, and quite a bit of blatant body shaming going on in some of the episodes. ''Karl & Co'' is ''slightly'' better but still has some blatantly homophobic and body-shaming episodes.
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* ValuesDissonance: You can ''tell'' this series was made in the 1990s, and that it wasn't particularly FairForItsDay either. Lots of casual misogyny, mild homophobia, and blatant body shaming going on in some of the episodes.
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* ValuesDissonance: You can ''tell'' this series was made in the 1990s, and that it wasn't particularly FairForItsDay either. Lots of casual misogyny, some casual racism, a bit of mild homophobia, homophobia and transphobia, and quite a bit of blatant body shaming going on in some of the episodes.
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* ContestedSequel: ''Karl & Co.'' It was never as popular as ''Mot i brøstet,'' and only lasted for about half as many episodes, but it still had its fans. Even today, viewers can never agree whether it was on par or almost on par with the original, whether it was an EvenBetterSequel, or whether it was total garbage.
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* ContestedSequel: ContestedSequel:
** ''Karl & Co.'' It was never as popular as ''Mot i brøstet,'' and only lasted for about half as many episodes, but it still had its fans. Even today, viewers can never agree whether it was on par or almost on par with the original, whether it was an EvenBetterSequel, or whether it was totalgarbage.garbage.
** Totally averted for ''Karl III'', which ''everyone'' hates.
** ''Karl & Co.'' It was never as popular as ''Mot i brøstet,'' and only lasted for about half as many episodes, but it still had its fans. Even today, viewers can never agree whether it was on par or almost on par with the original, whether it was an EvenBetterSequel, or whether it was total
** Totally averted for ''Karl III'', which ''everyone'' hates.
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* ValuesDissonanse: You can ''tell'' this series was made in the 1990s, and that it wasn't particularly FairForItsDay either. Lots of casual misogyny, mild homophobia, and blatant body shaming going on in some of the episodes.
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* ValuesDissonanse: ValuesDissonance: You can ''tell'' this series was made in the 1990s, and that it wasn't particularly FairForItsDay either. Lots of casual misogyny, mild homophobia, and blatant body shaming going on in some of the episodes.
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* ContestedSequel: ''Karl & Co.'' It was never as popular as ''Mot i brøstet,'' and only lasted for about half as many episodes, but it still had its fans. Even today, viewers can never agree whether it was on par or almost on par with the original, whether it was an EvenBetterSequel, or whether it was total garbage.
* CriticalDissonance: None of the three series was even ''remotely'' liked by critics. ''Mot i brøstet'' especially was the butt of many jokes among professionals and for much of its running time was used as the prime example of how lousy Norwegian TV was. Fans still adored it though; ratings were consistently high and even now lots of people remember the series and characters fondly.
* ValuesDissonanse: You can ''tell'' this series was made in the 1990s, and that it wasn't particularly FairForItsDay either. Lots of casual misogyny, mild homophobia, and blatant body shaming going on in some of the episodes.
* CriticalDissonance: None of the three series was even ''remotely'' liked by critics. ''Mot i brøstet'' especially was the butt of many jokes among professionals and for much of its running time was used as the prime example of how lousy Norwegian TV was. Fans still adored it though; ratings were consistently high and even now lots of people remember the series and characters fondly.
* ValuesDissonanse: You can ''tell'' this series was made in the 1990s, and that it wasn't particularly FairForItsDay either. Lots of casual misogyny, mild homophobia, and blatant body shaming going on in some of the episodes.
