Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / MiracleMile

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Chip's father, who has unexplained issues with his son, is the impetus of the whole plot, and could have provided a look at the panic spreading to other cities, is nonetheless only present for one short phone call where Harry fails to warn him about the incoming nukes.

to:

** Chip's father, who has unexplained issues with his son, is the impetus of the whole plot, and could have provided a look at the panic spreading to other cities, is nonetheless only present for one short phone call where Harry fails to warn him about the incoming nukes.nukes before he hangs up.

Added: 1050

Changed: 63

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AudienceAlienatingEnding: The film could be the textbook example of ShootTheShaggyDog. [[spoiler: Not only was Chip telling the truth, meaning a global-scale nuclear holocaust is imminent, but everything Harry does throughout the story was for naught and gets him and Julie killed]]. Upon the original run in theaters, this ''killed the movie dead'' in the box office.

to:

* AudienceAlienatingEnding: The film could be the textbook example of ShootTheShaggyDog. [[spoiler: Not only was Chip telling the truth, meaning a global-scale nuclear holocaust is imminent, but everything Harry does throughout the story was for naught (save for presumably indirectly saving a few minor characters) and gets him and Julie killed]]. Upon the original run in theaters, this ''killed the movie dead'' in the box office.


Added DiffLines:


* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
** Wilson's sister Carlotta is played by the talented Creator/KellyJoMinter and is implied to be an anti-nuclear SoapboxSadie who spends half of the film having the same kind of chaotic adventures with her brother that Harry and Julie are having. She feels like she could have been an interesting part of the last act, but only gets a cameo appearance with a single line of dialogue.
** Chip's father, who has unexplained issues with his son, is the impetus of the whole plot, and could have provided a look at the panic spreading to other cities, is nonetheless only present for one short phone call where Harry fails to warn him about the incoming nukes.
** The busboy who believes Harry's warning but then steals his car to fetch his mother (according to a BilingualBonus conversation) and his mother never shows up again, when their own flight from the city likely had an interesting story behind it and his stealing Harry's car could have led to some interesting interactions on both sides if they met up again.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Anthony Edwards and Mare Winningham, who played Harry and Julie respectively, maintained a friendship after filming ended and eventually married in 2021.

to:

* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Anthony While Harry and Julie weren't able to get their happy ending in-universe, their actors (Anthony Edwards and Mare Winningham, who played Harry and Julie respectively, maintained a friendship after filming ended and Winningham) eventually married in 2021.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Anthony Edwards and Mare Winningham, who played Harry and Julie respectively, maintained a friendship after filming ended and eventually married in 2021.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Similarly, the Ohrbach's department store (which Wilson crashes into) across the street from the May Company Building is now repurposed as the Petersen Automotive Museum.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The other diner residents (particularly Landa and Fred the Cook) have maybe three scenes,but are almost universally well-remembered by fans.

to:

** The other diner residents (particularly Landa and Fred the Cook) have maybe three scenes,but scenes, but are almost universally well-remembered by fans.

Added: 428

Changed: 392

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AudienceAlienatingEnding: The story could be the textbook example of ShootTheShaggyDog. [[spoiler: Not only was Chip telling the truth, meaning a global-scale nuclear holocaust, but everything Harry does throughout the story ultimately was in vain and gets him and Julie killed]]. Upon the original run in theaters, this ''killed the movie dead'' in the box office.

to:

* AudienceAlienatingEnding: The story film could be the textbook example of ShootTheShaggyDog. [[spoiler: Not only was Chip telling the truth, meaning a global-scale nuclear holocaust, holocaust is imminent, but everything Harry does throughout the story ultimately was in vain for naught and gets him and Julie killed]]. Upon the original run in theaters, this ''killed the movie dead'' in the box office.



** The other diner residents (particularly Landa and Fred the Cook) have maybe three scenes and are almost universally well-remembered by fans.
** Wilson is considered decently acted and with a good HeroOfAnotherStory vibe.

to:

** The other diner residents (particularly Landa and Fred the Cook) have maybe three scenes and scenes,but are almost universally well-remembered by fans.
** Wilson is considered decently acted acted, and with has a good HeroOfAnotherStory vibe.



* FairForItsDay: The film is surprisingly progressive in its treatment of LGBT characters for a film from 1988. The "transvestite" character displays no stereotypical mannerisms whatsoever. You'd expect her to be CampGay, but she spends most of her screen time arguing about directions and suggesting that Chip was a prank caller. The powerlifting helicopter pilot is a tough, honorable ManlyGay who is unashamed of his sexuality.

to:

* FairForItsDay: The film is surprisingly progressive in its treatment of LGBT characters characters, especially for a film from 1988. The "transvestite" character Roger the transvestite displays no stereotypical mannerisms whatsoever. You'd expect her to be CampGay, but she spends most of her screen time arguing about giving a traveller directions and suggesting that Chip was a prank caller. The powerlifting helicopter pilot is a tough, honorable ManlyGay who is unashamed of his sexuality.



** UsefulNotes/LosAngeles becomes a complete hellhole roughly an hour after Harry receives the phone call. Looting, rioting, several car accidents, murder, and lawlessness in general plague the streets as hundreds of thousands of people panic at the idea that a nuclear war could be underway. Harry is understandably horrified to know that the city has delved into chaos all because of a phone call that may or may not have been authentic.
** The phone call itself is quite chilling, as Chip is gunned down after stating that a nuclear war is about to occur within the hour, with the next person who picks up the phone telling Harry to forget what he's heard and go back to sleep. Harry isn't sure whether it's a prank call or not, and is visibly shaken up upon hearing it. [[spoiler:It's real.]]

to:

** UsefulNotes/LosAngeles becomes a complete hellhole roughly an hour after Harry receives the phone call. Looting, rioting, several car accidents, murder, public sex, and lawlessness in general plague the streets as hundreds of thousands of people panic at the idea that a nuclear war Armageddon could be underway. Harry is understandably horrified to know that the city has delved into chaos all because of a phone call that may or may not have been authentic.
** The phone call itself is quite chilling, as Chip is gunned down after stating trying to warn his dad that a nuclear war is about to will occur within the hour, with the next person who picks up the phone telling Harry to forget what he's heard and go back to sleep. Harry isn't sure whether it's a prank call or not, and is visibly shaken up upon hearing it. [[spoiler:It's real.]]]]
** The fact that we know '''''absolutely nothing''''' about the nature of the nuclear war itself, such as what the causes of it are, who the US is fighting against, and why they feel the need to strike first. What's truly horrifying is that we never learn why the military is hellbent on keeping everyone and anyone who isn't with the government unaware of the imminent apocalypse, condemning them all to die an agonizing death.



* RetroactiveRecognition: The kid calling his dad on the phone? That's [[Franchise/MassEffect Kaiden Alenko]]!

to:

* RetroactiveRecognition: The Chip, the kid calling his dad on the phone? That's [[Franchise/MassEffect Kaiden Alenko]]!



** [[spoiler:Harry and Julie fail to escape Los Angeles in time, dying as their helicopter sinks into the tar pits and a nuclear war destroys the city. The music that plays over the end credits really highlights the tragedy of the whole thing.]]
** [[spoiler:Wilson, the car thief, cradling his dying sister in his arms, sobbing and begging Harry to [[DeathSeeker kill him]].]]
** Chip, the man on the phone in the beginning, [[spoiler:tries to warn his father about the upcoming nuclear apocalypse, only to realize that he dialed the wrong number and frantically tries to get Harry to call his father before being gunned down.]]

to:

** [[spoiler:Harry and Julie fail to escape Los Angeles in time, dying as their helicopter sinks into the tar pits La Brea Tar Pits and is directly hit by a nuclear war destroys the city.missle. The music that plays over the end credits really highlights the tragedy of the whole thing.]]
** [[spoiler:Wilson, the car stereo thief, cradling his dying mortally wounded sister in his arms, arms and watching as she dies, sobbing and begging Harry to [[DeathSeeker kill him]].him]] before he succumbs to his own injuries.]]
** Chip, the man on the phone in the beginning, phone, [[spoiler:tries to warn his father about the upcoming nuclear apocalypse, only to realize that he dialed the wrong number and frantically tries to get Harry to call his father and apologize for something before being gunned down.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The film was already showing its age when it hit theaters in the summer of 1989, as the idea of nuclear war breaking out had become much more remote given that the Soviet Union was now under the leadership of UsefulNotes/MikhailGorbachev and both countries had ratified the INF Treaty to significantly reduce their respective nuclear stockpiles. Relations between both countries had thawed significantly enough that US President UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush and Gorbachev jointly declared the Cold War "over" later that year. This could have been a possible factor as to why ''Miracle Mile'' failed at the box office, it was simply unable to garner public interest given the way the pages of history were turning at the time.

to:

** The film was already showing its age when it hit theaters in the summer of 1989, in large part thanks to the script being written almost a decade earlier and then languishing as "unfilmable" for many years. Thus the idea of nuclear war breaking out had become much more remote given that the Soviet Union was now under the leadership of UsefulNotes/MikhailGorbachev and both countries had ratified the INF Treaty to significantly reduce their respective nuclear stockpiles. Relations between both countries had thawed significantly enough that US President UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush and Gorbachev jointly declared the Cold War "over" later that year. This could have been a possible factor as to why ''Miracle Mile'' failed at the box office, it was simply unable to garner public interest given the way the pages of history were turning at the time.

Added: 1126

Removed: 515

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The film was already showing its age when it hit theaters in the summer of 1989, as the idea of nuclear war breaking out had become much more remote given that the Soviet Union was now under the leadership of UsefulNotes/MikhailGorbachev and both countries had ratified the INF Treaty to significantly reduce their respective nuclear stockpiles. Relations between both countries had thawed significantly enough that US President UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush and Gorbachev jointly declared the Cold War "over" later that year. This could have been a possible factor as to why ''Miracle Mile'' failed at the box office, it was simply unable to garner public interest given the way the pages of history were turning at the time.
*** Strictly speaking, it's not specified who the US goes to nuclear war with, though the assumption in 1989 would have been the USSR. The only mention of the possible enemy is when Harlan says he would only believe a "Russkie" first strike. While it's still dated because the scenario is considered much less likely after the end of the Cold War, the US and Russia could still go through this today.



** The film is about the United States getting into nuclear war with the Soviet Union. The USSR collapsed in 1991.
*** Strictly speaking, it's not specified who the US goes to nuclear war with, though the assumption in 1989 would have been the USSR. The only mention of the possible enemy is when Harlan says he would only believe a "Russkie" first strike. While it's still dated because the scenario is considered much less likely after the end of the Cold War, the US and Russia could still go through this today.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* HarsherInHindsight: LA devolving into violent grid-locked chaos thanks to nuclear panic seems oddly prescient of the 1991 Rodney King riots that would occur three years later.

Added: 367

Removed: 357

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Moved per rename


* AudienceAlienatingEnding: The story could be the textbook example of ShootTheShaggyDog. [[spoiler: Not only was Chip telling the truth, meaning a global-scale nuclear holocaust, but everything Harry does throughout the story ultimately was in vain and gets him and Julie killed]]. Upon the original run in theaters, this ''killed the movie dead'' in the box office.



* EndingAversion: The story could be the textbook example of ShootTheShaggyDog. [[spoiler: Not only was Chip telling the truth, meaning a global-scale nuclear holocaust, but everything Harry does throughout the story ultimately was in vain and gets him and Julie killed]]. Upon the original run in theaters, this ''killed the movie dead'' in the box office.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Not YMMV.


* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: Harry leaves his keys in the ignition of his car before heading into the diner. Once everyone inside becomes aware that nuclear war after the next hour is a very real possibility, someone steals his car due to the keys having been left inside. Had Harry just done what any sane person living in Los Angelos would do and taken the keys inside with him, he would have been able to pick up Julie, meet up with the other patrons at the airport and gotten out of town with at least a half hour to spare.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: Harry leaves his keys in the ignition of his car before heading into the diner. Once everyone inside becomes aware that nuclear war after the next hour is a very real possibility, someone steals his car due to the keys having been left inside. Had Harry just done what any sane person living in Los Angelos would do and taken the keys inside with him, he would have been able to pick up Julie, meet up with the other patrons at the airport and gotten out of town with at least a half hour to spare.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The other diner residents (particularly Landa and Fred the Cook) are almost universally well-remembered by fans.

to:

** The other diner residents (particularly Landa and Fred the Cook) have maybe three scenes and are almost universally well-remembered by fans.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* RetroactiveRecognition: The kid calling his dad on the phone? That's [[Franchise/MassEffect Kaiden Alenko]]!
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** [[spoiler:Harry and Julie fail to escape Los Angeles in time, dying as their helicopter sinks into the tar pits and a nuclear war destroys the city. The music that plays over the end credits doesn't help.]]

to:

** [[spoiler:Harry and Julie fail to escape Los Angeles in time, dying as their helicopter sinks into the tar pits and a nuclear war destroys the city. The music that plays over the end credits doesn't help.really highlights the tragedy of the whole thing.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doW4s-1ULOc score]] by Music/TangerineDream.

to:

* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doW4s-1ULOc score]] by Music/TangerineDream.Music/TangerineDream, particularly the haunting end credits theme.



** [[spoiler:Harry and Julie fail to escape Los Angeles in time, dying as their helicopter sinks into the tar pits and a nuclear war destroys the city.]]

to:

** [[spoiler:Harry and Julie fail to escape Los Angeles in time, dying as their helicopter sinks into the tar pits and a nuclear war destroys the city. The music that plays over the end credits doesn't help.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Harry laments about wishing he hadn't been there to answer the phone and missing his date due to using an electric alarm clock and the hotel he is staying in losing power while he slept. Seeing cellphones nowadays have their own alarm clocks and run off their own battery, Harry would have waken up on time for his date and missed out on the phone call (but as mentioned above, finding a payphone nowadays would be hard pressed to find).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

*** Strictly speaking, it's not specified who the US goes to nuclear war with, though the assumption in 1989 would have been the USSR. The only mention of the possible enemy is when Harlan says he would only believe a "Russkie" first strike. While it's still dated because the scenario is considered much less likely after the end of the Cold War, the US and Russia could still go through this today.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* UnintentionalPeriodPiece:
** The May Company Building is featured prominently in a few shots, with its glowing "MAYCO" signage. Six years after the film debuted, the building became LACMA West and is now the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures.
** A payphone call is the inciting incident of the plot, while today you'd be hard pressed to find one anywhere.
** Landa's brick-sized cell phone is noticeable. The characters call it a mobile phone, whereas Americans typically call them "cell phones" today.
** The film is about the United States getting into nuclear war with the Soviet Union. The USSR collapsed in 1991.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FairForItsDay: The film is surprisingly progressive in its treatment of LGBT characters for a film from 1988. The "transvestite" character displays no stereotypical mannerisms whatsoever. You'd expect her to be CampGay, but she spends most of her screen time arguing about directions and suggesting that Chip was a prank caller. The powerlifting helicopter pilot is a tough, honorable ManlyGay who is unashamed of his sexuality.

Changed: 339

Removed: 566

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* EndingAversion:
** The story could be the textbook example of ShootTheShaggyDog. [[spoiler: Not only was Chip telling the truth, meaning a global-scale nuclear holocaust, but everything Harry does throughout the story ultimately was in vain and gets him and Julie killed]]. Upon the original run in theaters, this ''killed the movie dead'' in the box office.
** Possibly lessened if you believe [[spoiler: HesJustHiding, given that we don't know where in the city the missile would hit, which could give them a slight chance of survival, assuming they didn't drown in the tar pits.]]

to:

* EndingAversion:
**
EndingAversion: The story could be the textbook example of ShootTheShaggyDog. [[spoiler: Not only was Chip telling the truth, meaning a global-scale nuclear holocaust, but everything Harry does throughout the story ultimately was in vain and gets him and Julie killed]]. Upon the original run in theaters, this ''killed the movie dead'' in the box office.
** Possibly lessened if you believe [[spoiler: HesJustHiding, given that we don't know where in the city the missile would hit, which could give them a slight chance of survival, assuming they didn't drown in the tar pits.]]
office.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
This is about critics thinking differently of the film than people who saw it, not good films that no one saw.


* CriticalDissonance: The film was highly praised even when it was still just a script. It's hard to find even ''average'' critical reviews, let alone bad, yet the film absolutely bombed in the box office and would be forgotten if not for [[VindicatedByCable the VHS release]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* PeripheryDemographic: A disproportionately large part of the fandom is made from Music/TangerineDream fans, as they've provided one of their better soundtracks to the film.

to:

* PeripheryDemographic: A disproportionately large part of the fandom is made from up of Music/TangerineDream fans, as they've provided one of their better soundtracks to the film.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The story could be the textbook example of ShootTheShaggyDog. [[spoiler: Not only was Chip telling the truth, meaning a global-scale nuclear holocaust, but everything Harry does throughout the story ultimately was in vain and gets him and Julie killed]]. Upon original run in theaters, this ''killed the movie dead'' in the box office.

to:

** The story could be the textbook example of ShootTheShaggyDog. [[spoiler: Not only was Chip telling the truth, meaning a global-scale nuclear holocaust, but everything Harry does throughout the story ultimately was in vain and gets him and Julie killed]]. Upon the original run in theaters, this ''killed the movie dead'' in the box office.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CriticalDissonance: The film was highly praised even when it was still just a script. It's hard to find even ''average'' critical reviews, let alone bad, yet the film absolutely bombed in the box office and would be forgotten if not [[VindicatedByCable the VHS release]].

to:

* CriticalDissonance: The film was highly praised even when it was still just a script. It's hard to find even ''average'' critical reviews, let alone bad, yet the film absolutely bombed in the box office and would be forgotten if not for [[VindicatedByCable the VHS release]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Incorrect word choice


* CriticalDissonance: The film was highly praised even when it was still just a script. It's hard to find even ''average'' critical reviews, not to mention bad, yet the film absolutely bombed in the box office and would be forgotten if not [[VindicatedByCable the VHS release]].

to:

* CriticalDissonance: The film was highly praised even when it was still just a script. It's hard to find even ''average'' critical reviews, not to mention let alone bad, yet the film absolutely bombed in the box office and would be forgotten if not [[VindicatedByCable the VHS release]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The mix of rom-com with apocalypse didn't really suited anyone back in the day. And after the initial weekend, which wasn't so bad, the knowledge about an extreme case of DownerEnding killed off any audience the film could still get.

to:

* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The mix of rom-com with apocalypse didn't really suited suit anyone back in the day. And after the initial weekend, which wasn't so bad, the knowledge about an extreme case of DownerEnding killed off any audience the film could still get.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Possibly lessened if you believe [[spoiler: HesJustHiding, given that we don't know where in the city the missile would hit, which could give them a slight chance of survival]], assuming they didn't drown in the tar pits.

to:

** Possibly lessened if you believe [[spoiler: HesJustHiding, given that we don't know where in the city the missile would hit, which could give them a slight chance of survival]], survival, assuming they didn't drown in the tar pits.]]

Top