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** Does Shaft's signature ''LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}'' style really fit the franchise or not?
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** Does Shaft's signature ''LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}'' ''Literature/{{Bakemonogatari}}'' style really fit the franchise or not?
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In the fifth episode, Ene and Kano play a ''TabletopGame/YuGiOh'' type game in a competition to embarrass their fellow teammates. It doesn't do much more than serve as humor or filler.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XxS8APzdx8 OP]], ''Daze'', and the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUMnmBozJ7M ED]], ''Days'', are both very good.
** The [[InsertSong insert songs]] played in almost each episode also count.
** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XxS8APzdx8 OP]], ''Daze'', and the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUMnmBozJ7M ED]], ''Days'', are both very good.
** The [[InsertSong insert songs]] played in almost each episode also count.
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* SignatureScene: Likely [[spoiler:Ayano's suicide]].
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** The ninth episode features a [[ArtShift random]] CGI segment at the start of the television version. It was likely due to being rushed and the video release features the normal art-style. Still, the sequence has become memetic due to how [[UncannyValley creepy it looks]].
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** The ninth episode features a [[ArtShift random]] CGI segment at the start of the television version. It was likely due to being rushed and the video release features the normal art-style. Still, the sequence has become memetic due to how [[UncannyValley creepy it looks]].looks.
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** The OP of episode 9 is supposed to be cute, but the poorly done CG on the faces sends it straight into the UncannyValley. The redone version for the BD sets, by comparison, is in [=2D=] and does a much better job of trying to be cute.
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** The OP of episode 9 is supposed to be cute, but the poorly done CG on the faces sends makes it straight into the UncannyValley.creepy. The redone version for the BD sets, by comparison, is in [=2D=] and does a much better job of trying to be cute.
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[BigBad Kuroha]]]] is at his absolute worst here. His actions can be described in detail [[YMMV/KagerouProject here.]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[BigBad Kuroha]]]] [[spoiler:[[BigBad Kuro Konoha]]]] is at his absolute worst here. His actions can be described in detail [[YMMV/KagerouProject here.]]
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** [[spoiler:Kuroha]]'s [[http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_n7w8z1ajmY1s4a4x9o1_1403983982_cover.jpg laughter]] from the Outer Science episode. The signature Shaft headtilt he did in that scene only adds to it.
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** [[spoiler:Kuroha]]'s [[spoiler: Kuro Konoha]]'s [[http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_n7w8z1ajmY1s4a4x9o1_1403983982_cover.jpg laughter]] from the Outer Science episode. The signature Shaft headtilt he did in that scene only adds to it.
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** At the start of Episode 11, we are treated to [[spoiler:a close-up of Kuroha's [[SlasherSmile facial expression]], done entirely in black and red and lifted straight out of the ''Outer Science'' PV]]. Yes, it was ''already'' horrifying enough in the original PV; redrawing it was unnecessary.
** During Episode 12, [[spoiler:the Wide-Eyes Snake possesses Konoha's body to transform him into Kuroha. [[PainfulTransformation Konoha's screams as he is engulfed in a writhing black mass of snakes sounds less than pleasant]]]].
** During Episode 12, [[spoiler:the Wide-Eyes Snake possesses Konoha's body to transform him into Kuroha. [[PainfulTransformation Konoha's screams as he is engulfed in a writhing black mass of snakes sounds less than pleasant]]]].
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** At the start of Episode 11, we are treated to [[spoiler:a close-up of Kuroha's of Kuro Konoha's [[SlasherSmile facial expression]], done entirely in black and red and lifted straight out of the ''Outer Science'' PV]]. Yes, it was ''already'' horrifying enough in the original PV; redrawing it was unnecessary.
** During Episode 12, [[spoiler:the Wide-Eyes Snake possesses Konoha's body to transform himinto Kuroha.into Kuro Konoha. [[PainfulTransformation Konoha's screams as he is engulfed in a writhing black mass of snakes sounds less than pleasant]]]].
** During Episode 12, [[spoiler:the Wide-Eyes Snake possesses Konoha's body to transform him
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** [[spoiler:While he does appear in the OP and a brief moment at the start of Episode 11, Kuroha only properly emerges during the second half of the last episode, and is dead within 5 minutes]].
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** [[spoiler:While he does appear in the OP and a brief moment at the start of Episode 11, Kuroha 11, Kuro Konoha only properly emerges during the second half of the last episode, and is dead within 5 minutes]].
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** In the anime itself there's Seto and Marry, the former running away in embarrassment after trying to explain something to the latter and failing; she also mentions how grateful she is to Seto for rescuing her; finally in Episode 10 once Imagination Forest starts playing, you can see Seto blushing upon seeing Marry for the first time and the lyrics also seem to indicate that Marry has feelings for him. Also, [[spoiler:when Possessed!Kenjirou narrates Marry's story, he always refers to Seto ("The Boy") separate from the rest of the Dan, implying he is of greater emotional importance to Marry. It is also when Kuroha attacks Seto that she snaps and goes to reset time]].
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** In the anime itself there's Seto and Marry, the former running away in embarrassment after trying to explain something to the latter and failing; she also mentions how grateful she is to Seto for rescuing her; finally in Episode 10 once Imagination Forest starts playing, you can see Seto blushing upon seeing Marry for the first time and the lyrics also seem to indicate that Marry has feelings for him. Also, [[spoiler:when Possessed!Kenjirou narrates Marry's story, he always refers to Seto ("The Boy") separate from the rest of the Dan, implying he is of greater emotional importance to Marry. It is also when Kuroha when Kuro Konoha attacks Seto that she snaps and goes to reset time]].
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** In the last episode [[spoiler:Kuroha looks rather [[http://i.imgur.com/9khqKFU.png cartoonish]] and [[http://i.imgur.com/Xbtiyohs.jpg goofy]], rather than menacing. There are also some rather ridiculous looking bits of animation for the [[http://i.imgur.com/2mYf0Fzs.jpg Dan]] once he starts throwing them around.]]
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** In the last episode [[spoiler:Kuroha [[spoiler: Kuro Konoha looks rather [[http://i.imgur.com/9khqKFU.png cartoonish]] and [[http://i.imgur.com/Xbtiyohs.jpg goofy]], rather than menacing. There are also some rather ridiculous looking bits of animation for the [[http://i.imgur.com/2mYf0Fzs.jpg Dan]] once he starts throwing them around.]]
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** The ninth pisode features a [[ArtShift random]] CGI segment at the start of the television version. It was likely due to being rushed and the video release features the normal art-style. Still, the sequence has become memetic due to how [[UncannyValley creepy it looks]].
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** The ninth pisode episode features a [[ArtShift random]] CGI segment at the start of the television version. It was likely due to being rushed and the video release features the normal art-style. Still, the sequence has become memetic due to how [[UncannyValley creepy it looks]].
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* IconicScene: Likely [[spoiler:Ayano's suicide]].
* SignatureScene: Likely [[spoiler:Ayano's suicide]].
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** The CG graphics in the OP of episode 9 are widely considered to be the worst ever seen in an anime. Thankfully, the blu-ray fixed it by having a much better animation, though it wasn't in CG.
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** The CG graphics in the OP of episode 9 are widely considered to be the worst ever seen in an anime. Thankfully, the blu-ray Blu-Ray fixed it by having a much better animation, though it wasn't in CG.
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** Some fans don't like the character designs in the anime as compared to the music video/manga/light novel illustrations. The anime makes them look older and more seinen than before.
** Another point of contention is whether Shaft's signature ''LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}'' style really fits the the franchise or not.
** Yet another: Is the anime's way of telling the story mysterious and intriguing, or is it just confusing viewers by not giving them important information that other adaptations did?
** '''The ending''', in which [[spoiler: Ayano, Haruka, and Hiyori come BackFromTheDead]]. Many fans were quite disappointed by it, claiming that it disregards the franchise's message of moving on from the past and [[FanonDiscontinuity chose to leave it behind in the Daze]].
** Another point of contention is whether Shaft's signature ''LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}'' style really fits the the franchise or not.
** Yet another: Is the anime's way of telling the story mysterious and intriguing, or is it just confusing viewers by not giving them important information that other adaptations did?
** '''The ending''', in which [[spoiler: Ayano, Haruka, and Hiyori come BackFromTheDead]]. Many fans were quite disappointed by it, claiming that it disregards the franchise's message of moving on from the past and [[FanonDiscontinuity chose to leave it behind in the Daze]].
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** Some fans don't like the character designs in the anime as compared to the music video/manga/light novel illustrations. The anime makes them look older and more seinen than before.
** Another point of contention is whetherDoes Shaft's signature ''LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}'' style really fits the fit the franchise or not.
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** Yet another: Is the anime's way of telling the story mysterious and intriguing, or is it just confusing viewersby and not giving them important information that other adaptations did?
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**'''The ending''', The ending, in which [[spoiler: Ayano, Haruka, and Hiyori come BackFromTheDead]]. Many fans were quite disappointed by it, claiming Fans are either happy that [[spoiler: several beloved characters are back,]] or view it disregards as a BrokenAesop of the franchise's series' message to let go of moving on from the past and [[FanonDiscontinuity chose to leave it behind in the Daze]].past.
** Another point of contention is whether
** Yet another: Is the anime's way of telling the story mysterious and intriguing, or is it just confusing viewers
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XxS8APzdx8 OP]], ''Daze'', and the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUMnmBozJ7M ED]], ''Days'', are both very good.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XxS8APzdx8 OP]], ''Daze'', and the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUMnmBozJ7M ED]], ''Days'', are both very good.
** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XxS8APzdx8 OP]], ''Daze'', and the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUMnmBozJ7M ED]], ''Days'', are both very good.
* IconicScene: Likely [[spoiler:Ayano's suicide]].
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* MemeticMutation: [[spoiler:Kuroha]]'s [[http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_n7w8z1ajmY1s4a4x9o1_1403983982_cover.jpg laughter]] from the Outer Science episode. The signature Shaft headtilt he did in that scene only adds to it.
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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
** [[spoiler:Kuroha]]'s [[http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_n7w8z1ajmY1s4a4x9o1_1403983982_cover.jpg laughter]] from the Outer Science episode. The signature Shaft headtilt he did in that scene only adds toit.it.
** The ninth pisode features a [[ArtShift random]] CGI segment at the start of the television version. It was likely due to being rushed and the video release features the normal art-style. Still, the sequence has become memetic due to how [[UncannyValley creepy it looks]].
** [[spoiler:Kuroha]]'s [[http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_n7w8z1ajmY1s4a4x9o1_1403983982_cover.jpg laughter]] from the Outer Science episode. The signature Shaft headtilt he did in that scene only adds to
** The ninth pisode features a [[ArtShift random]] CGI segment at the start of the television version. It was likely due to being rushed and the video release features the normal art-style. Still, the sequence has become memetic due to how [[UncannyValley creepy it looks]].
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: During Episode 10, in response to several attackers with guns (and being shot several times), [[spoiler:Azami employs the powers of her snakes to heal her wounds instantaneously, make her daughter invisible to the men, steal their attention, turn them to stone,]] and then frightens the last one off with a few stern words.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome:
** During Episode 10, in response to several attackers with guns (and being shot several times), [[spoiler:Azami employs the powers of her snakes to heal her wounds instantaneously, make her daughter invisible to the men, steal their attention, turn them to stone,]] and then frightens the last one off with a few stern words.
** During Episode 10, in response to several attackers with guns (and being shot several times), [[spoiler:Azami employs the powers of her snakes to heal her wounds instantaneously, make her daughter invisible to the men, steal their attention, turn them to stone,]] and then frightens the last one off with a few stern words.
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* OneSceneWonder: [[spoiler:While he does appear in the OP and a brief moment at the start of Episode 11, Kuroha only properly emerges during the second half of the last episode, and is dead within 5 minutes]].
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* OneSceneWonder: OneSceneWonder:
** [[spoiler:While he does appear in the OP and a brief moment at the start of Episode 11, Kuroha only properly emerges during the second half of the last episode, and is dead within 5 minutes]].
** [[spoiler:While he does appear in the OP and a brief moment at the start of Episode 11, Kuroha only properly emerges during the second half of the last episode, and is dead within 5 minutes]].
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* SpecialEffectFailure: The CG graphics in the OP of episode 9 are widely considered to be the worst ever seen in an anime. Thankfully, the blu-ray fixed it by having a much better animation, though it wasn't in CG.
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* SpecialEffectFailure: SpecialEffectFailure:
** The CG graphics in the OP of episode 9 are widely considered to be the worst ever seen in an anime. Thankfully, the blu-ray fixed it by having a much better animation, though it wasn't in CG.
** The CG graphics in the OP of episode 9 are widely considered to be the worst ever seen in an anime. Thankfully, the blu-ray fixed it by having a much better animation, though it wasn't in CG.
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** '''The ending''', in which [[spoiler: Ayano, Haruka, and Hiyori come BackFromTheDead]]. Many fans were quite disappointed by it, claiming that it disregards the franchise's message of moving on from the past and [[FanonDiscontinuity choosing to disregard it]].
* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Kuroha]] is at his absolute worst here. His actions can be described in detail [[YMMV/KagerouProject here.]]
* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Kuroha]] is at his absolute worst here. His actions can be described in detail [[YMMV/KagerouProject here.]]
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** '''The ending''', in which [[spoiler: Ayano, Haruka, and Hiyori come BackFromTheDead]]. Many fans were quite disappointed by it, claiming that it disregards the franchise's message of moving on from the past and [[FanonDiscontinuity choosing chose to disregard it]].
leave it behind in the Daze]].
* CompleteMonster:[[BigBad Kuroha]] [[spoiler:[[BigBad Kuroha]]]] is at his absolute worst here. His actions can be described in detail [[YMMV/KagerouProject here.]]
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* MemeticMutation: Kuroha's [[http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_n7w8z1ajmY1s4a4x9o1_1403983982_cover.jpg laughter]] from the outer space episode, not helping that the 'Shaft headtilt' he did in that scene.
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* MemeticMutation: Kuroha's [[spoiler:Kuroha]]'s [[http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_n7w8z1ajmY1s4a4x9o1_1403983982_cover.jpg laughter]] from the outer space episode, not helping that the 'Shaft headtilt' Outer Science episode. The signature Shaft headtilt he did in that scene.scene only adds to it.
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** The OP of episode 9 is supposed to be cute, but the poorly done CG on the faces sends it straight into the UncannyValley. The redone version for the BD sets, by comparison, is in [=2D=] and does a much better job of trying to be cutre.
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** The OP of episode 9 is supposed to be cute, but the poorly done CG on the faces sends it straight into the UncannyValley. The redone version for the BD sets, by comparison, is in [=2D=] and does a much better job of trying to be cutre.cute.
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** Halfway through Episode 10, when [[spoiler:Azami prepares herself to enter the Daze. Alone. Between how profusely she apologises to Shion, Shion's screaming at her to stop, and Tsukihiko's howl of anguish when he arrives too late to stop her, it's a very painful scene to watch. Add to this the fact that Azami was first described on terms of an EmotionlessGirl, and suddenly her pained facial expression as she says her final goodbye is a lot more heartbreaking]].
** This is followed up by [[spoiler:the deaths of Shion and Marry. Shion manages to turn the first attacker to stone and reach her daughter, and as she died from using her powers, turned the second one to stone too... it was just too late to prevent him hitting Marry with his club. The fact that Azami could only save Marry makes it worse. Add to that the fact that this was ''the first time'' Marry ever ventured outside, and it's heartbreaking. No wonder she stayed a {{Hikikomori}} for 130 years]].
** This is followed up by [[spoiler:the deaths of Shion and Marry. Shion manages to turn the first attacker to stone and reach her daughter, and as she died from using her powers, turned the second one to stone too... it was just too late to prevent him hitting Marry with his club. The fact that Azami could only save Marry makes it worse. Add to that the fact that this was ''the first time'' Marry ever ventured outside, and it's heartbreaking. No wonder she stayed a {{Hikikomori}} for 130 years]].
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** Halfway through Episode 10, when [[spoiler:Azami prepares herself to enter the Daze. Alone. Between how profusely she apologises apologizes to Shion, Shion's screaming at her to stop, and Tsukihiko's howl of anguish when he arrives too late to stop her, it's a very painful scene to watch. Add to this the fact that Azami was first described on terms of an EmotionlessGirl, and suddenly her pained facial expression as she says her final goodbye is a lot more heartbreaking]].
** This is followed up by [[spoiler:the deaths of Shion and Marry. Shion manages to turn the first attacker to stone and reach her daughter, and as she died from using her powers, turned the second one to stone too... it was just too late to prevent him hitting Marry with his club. The fact that Azami could only save Marry makes it worse. Add to that the fact that this was ''the first time'' Marry ever ventured outside, and it's heartbreaking. No wonder she stayed a {{Hikikomori}} for130 100 years]].
** This is followed up by [[spoiler:the deaths of Shion and Marry. Shion manages to turn the first attacker to stone and reach her daughter, and as she died from using her powers, turned the second one to stone too... it was just too late to prevent him hitting Marry with his club. The fact that Azami could only save Marry makes it worse. Add to that the fact that this was ''the first time'' Marry ever ventured outside, and it's heartbreaking. No wonder she stayed a {{Hikikomori}} for
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* BrokenAesop: To some, the [[spoiler: EveryoneLives GoldenEnding]] ruins the message of moving on from the past since the characters can just pick up where they left off instead of moving forward. [[BrokenBase Let's just leave it]] [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment at that for now.]]
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* JumpingTheShark: The first few episodes drew accusations that the show itself counted as StudioShaft's JumpingTheShark, due to overuse of Shaft's usual gimmicks and allegedly poor storytelling.
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** The OP of episode 9 is supposed to be cute, but the poorly done CG on the faces sends it straight into the UncannyValley.
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Kuroha]] is at his absolute worst here. His actions can be described in detail [[YMMV/KagerouProject here.]]