History YMMV / Liturgy

* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Even by the standards of experimental black metal, they take this to an extreme. Whether it really means something or is simply pretentious for the sake of being pretentious is pretty much up to personal interpretation.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Amongst people who don't like ''The Ark Work'', this is a common complaint. This is also a primary reason they've been so polarising in general - while their music has a lot of common traits of black metal (harsh vocals, tremolo picking, blast beats, etc.), as an otherwise positive Pitchfork review of ''Aesthethica'' noted, Liturgy's music just doesn't ''feel'' like black metal.

* MostWonderfulSound: Hunt-Hendrix has expressed her goal as effectively being to turn black metal into this, and there are definitely moments in their discography that qualify, such as the climax of "Reign Array" - into which, perhaps more impressively, they manage to work [[EverythingsLouderWithBagpipes bagpipes]].

* WinBackTheCrowd: Overall, ''H.A.Q.Q.'' and ''Origin of the Alimonies'' have received a much less polarised reception than ''The Ark Work'' did (although they still have their detractors), with some listeners calling them two of Liturgy's best albums.

* FaceOfTheBand: Haela Hunt-Hendrix.

* FaceOfTheBand: Hunter Hunt-Hendrix.

** Jokingly referring to the "trans" in Hunter's "Transcendental Black Metal" labeling of the band as being a foreshadow of her coming out as trans has become one for fans.
* NeverLiveItDown: Hunter's "manifesto", which accomplished absolutely nothing except making the mainline black metal fandom hate her even more (which may or may not have been the goal if you ascribe to the TrollingCreator interpretation) and making her fans and defenders lambaste it as a piece of faux-academic nonsense that did nothing except demonstrate how limited her knowledge of the genre actually was while also making her look like a pretentious pseudo-intellectual douchebag. Even after the dust cleared and the controversy was forgotten about, people ''still'' remember that ridiculous manifesto.

* TheScrappy: They're the black sheep of USBM, which is already the black sheep of the black metal community at large. [[note]] [[Music/{{Cobalt}} With]] [[Music/WolvesInTheThroneRoom a]] [[Music/{{Leviathan}} few]] [[Music/{{Agalloch}} exceptions]] [[/note]] Hunter Hunt-Hendrix in particular gets this a lot. Even a lot of people who like the band think she comes off as being overly self-serious and pretentious, and even her defenders shook their heads at her "manifesto".

* UnfortunateImplications: Discussed in an [[http://www.vice.com/read/liturgys-rap-metalocalypse-666 interview]] with Vice. Hunt-Hendrix admits she could be accused of cultural appropriation with the HipHop elements of ''The Ark Work'', and confesses to being uncomfortable with this element of the band's music:
-->Rap is a tradition that I'm not a part of, and I'm just dabbling in it. I'm not totally comfortable with anything that I do with this band. At this point, I'm not afraid of critics, but I'm not sure that I'm doing the right thing.

* UnfortunateImplications - DiscussedTrope in an [[http://www.vice.com/read/liturgys-rap-metalocalypse-666 interview]] with Vice. Hunt-Hendrix admits she could be accused of cultural appropriation with the HipHop elements of ''The Ark Work'', and confesses to being uncomfortable with this element of the band's music:

** Since few people have criticised the Music/BeastieBoys or Music/{{Eminem}} for being white rappers, she may be safe, but Liturgy have a bigger {{Hatedom}} than just about any other band in black metal, so who knows.

* MemeticMutation: "HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY", the ''only'' line from "Glass Earth" off ''Aesthethica''. It even had a follow up with "Vitrol" off ''The Ark Work''.

** Since few people have criticised the Music/BeastieBoys or Music/{{Eminem}} for being white rappers, she may be safe, but Liturgy have a bigger {{Hatedom}} than just about any other band in black metal, so who knows.

** Pretty much everything on "H.A.Q.Q" counts as this, specially "God of Love" and "HAJJ"

* NeverLiveItDown: Hunter's "manifesto", which accomplished absolutely nothing except making the mainline black metal fandom hate her even more (which may or may not have been the goal if you ascribe to the TrollingCreator interpretation) and making her fans and defenders lambaste it as a piece of faux-academic nonsense that did nothing except demonstrate how limited her knowledge of the genre actually was while also making him look like a pretentious pseudo-intellectual douchebag. Even after the dust cleared and the controversy was forgotten about, people ''still'' remember that ridiculous manifesto.

* TheScrappy: They're the black sheep of USBM, which is already the black sheep of the black metal community at large. [[note]] [[Music/{{Cobalt}} With]] [[Music/WolvesInTheThroneRoom a]] [[Music/{{Leviathan}} few]] [[Music/{{Agalloch}} exceptions]] [[/note]] Hunter Hunt-Hendrix in particular gets this a lot. Even a lot of people who like the band think she comes off as being overly self-serious and pretentious, and even his defenders shook their heads at her "manifesto".

** Pretty much everything on "H.E.Q.Q" counts as this, specially "God of Love" and "HAJJ"

* NeverLiveItDown: Hunter's "manifesto", which accomplished absolutely nothing except making the mainline black metal fandom hate him even more (which may or may not have been the goal if you ascribe to the TrollingCreator interpretation) and making his fans and defenders lambaste it as a piece of faux-academic nonsense that did nothing except demonstrate how limited his knowledge of the genre actually was while also making him look like a pretentious pseudo-intellectual douchebag. Even after the dust cleared and the controversy was forgotten about, people ''still'' remember that ridiculous manifesto.

* TheScrappy: They're the black sheep of USBM, which is already the black sheep of the black metal community at large. [[note]] [[Music/{{Cobalt}} With]] [[Music/WolvesInTheThroneRoom a]] [[Music/{{Leviathan}} few]] [[Music/{{Agalloch}} exceptions]] [[/note]] Hunter Hunt-Hendrix in particular gets this a lot. Even a lot of people who like the band think he comes off as being overly self-serious and pretentious, and even his defenders shook their heads at his "manifesto".
* UnfortunateImplications - DiscussedTrope in an [[http://www.vice.com/read/liturgys-rap-metalocalypse-666 interview]] with Vice. Hunt-Hendrix admits he could be accused of cultural appropriation with the HipHop elements of ''The Ark Work'', and confesses to being uncomfortable with this element of the band's music:

** Since few people have criticised the Music/BeastieBoys or Music/{{Eminem}} for being white rappers, he may be safe, but Liturgy have a bigger {{Hatedom}} than just about any other band in black metal, so who knows.

* EarWorm: Several songs qualify as this. "Vitriol" is a good example.

* InternetBackdraft: The sheer mention of them on a metal forum is extremely likely to cause this. Hunter Hunt-Hendrix is a more polarising figure amongst black metal fans than several ''convicted murderers'' (e.g., [[Music/{{Emperor}} Bård "Faust" Eithun]], Jon Nödtveidt of Dissection, [[Music/{{Burzum}} Varg Vikernes]]).