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* HilariousInHindsight: In the 2008 series Mr. Chivery says "[Amy]'s not royalty, is she?" Creator/ClaireFoy later played Queen Elizabeth II in ''Series/TheCrown2016''.
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** Pam Ferris (Mrs. General) also played in two earlier Dickens adaptations: as Mrs. Boffin in ''Literature/OurMutualFriend'' (1998) and Mrs. Squeers in ''Literature/NicholasNickleby'' (2001).
** Andy Serkis (Rigaud) and Annette Crosbie (Mr. F's aunt) were both in the 1999 ''Literature/OliverTwist'' miniseries.

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* HoYay: Miss Wade and Tattycoram, Doyce and Clennam, Pancks and Cavalletto, Rigaud and pretty much everyone he meets, the list goes on. Though a lot of these relationships are purely platonic, they're written in such a way that a modern audience could easily read into them a little too far.



* EveryoneIsGay: Miss Wade and Tattycoram, Doyce and Clennam, Pancks and Cavalletto, Rigaud and pretty much everyone he meets, the list goes on. Though a lot of these relationships are purely platonic, they're written in such a way that a modern audience could easily read into them a little too far.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Pam Ferris (Mrs. General) also played in two earlier Dickens adaptations: as Mrs. Boffin in ''Literature/OurMutualFriend'' (1998) and Mrs. Squeers in ''Literature/NicholasNickleby'' (2001).

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Pam Ferris (Mrs. General) also played in two earlier Dickens adaptations: as Mrs. Boffin in ''Literature/OurMutualFriend'' (1998) and Mrs. Squeers in ''Literature/NicholasNickleby'' (2001).(2001).
** Andy Serkis (Rigaud) and Annette Crosbie (Mr. F's aunt) were both in the 1999 ''Literature/OliverTwist'' miniseries.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Pam Ferris (Mrs. General) also played in two earlier Dickens adaptations: as Mrs. Boffin in ''Literature/OurMutualFriend'' (1998) and Mrs. Squeers in ''Literature/NicholasNickleby'' (2001).
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* ValuesDissonance: Modern readers often have a hard time with the {{Aesop}} that concludes Tattycoram's plot, in which she is supposed to reconcile herself to her proper station in life with the Meagles. Likewise, the fact that Miss Wade, an independent woman who has made her own way in the world and who might have been a beneficient and inspiring patron for Tattycoram, turns out to be cruel and completely out of touch with human feelings.

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* ValuesDissonance: Modern readers often have a hard time with the {{Aesop}} that concludes Tattycoram's plot, in which she is supposed to reconcile herself to her proper station in life with the Meagles. Likewise, the fact that Miss Wade, an independent woman who has made her own way in the world and who might have been a beneficient beneficent and inspiring patron for Tattycoram, turns out to be cruel and completely out of touch with human feelings.


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*EveryoneIsGay: Miss Wade and Tattycoram, Doyce and Clennam, Pancks and Cavalletto, Rigaud and pretty much everyone he meets, the list goes on. Though a lot of these relationships are purely platonic, they're written in such a way that a modern audience could easily read into them a little too far.

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* {{Depraved Bisexual}}: A possible character interpretation of Miss Wade, given the posessive way she treats Tattycoram and also her backstory of falling in love with [[spoiler: Henry Gowan]].
* HellIsThatNoise: The Clennam house keeps making this strange rustling noise. [[spoiler: That's because, thanks to RuleOfSymbolism, it's about to fall down.]]
** ''Qu'est-ce qui passe ici si tard ... ''
* {{Parental Incest}}: ''Definitely'' unintended, but to modern readers the attempt to show Amy off as a fiercely devoted daughter can have undertones of this. Amy calls her father "my own dear"; "love", etc., takes more care of him than he does of her and is at one point compared to a Greek character who breastfeeds her father in prison. {{Squick}}.
* {{Tear Jerker}}: John's outburst to Arthur after Arthur lands in the Marshalsea.

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* {{Depraved Bisexual}}: A possible character interpretation of Miss Wade, given the posessive way she treats Tattycoram and also her backstory of falling in love with [[spoiler: Henry Gowan]].
* HellIsThatNoise: The Clennam house keeps making this strange rustling noise. [[spoiler: That's because, thanks to RuleOfSymbolism, it's about to fall down.]]
** ''Qu'est-ce qui passe ici si tard ... ''
* {{Parental Incest}}: ''Definitely'' unintended, but to modern readers the attempt to show Amy off as a fiercely devoted daughter can have undertones of this. Amy calls her father "my own dear"; "love", etc., takes more care of him than he does of her and is at one point compared to a Greek character who breastfeeds her father in prison. {{Squick}}.
* {{Tear Jerker}}:
TearJerker: John's outburst to Arthur after Arthur lands in the Marshalsea.



* {{The Woobie}}: Amy; Arthur; definitely John Chivery.

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* {{The Woobie}}: TheWoobie: Amy; Arthur; definitely John Chivery.
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** The whole father/daughter vibe Amy and Arthur have going on.

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** The whole father/daughter vibe Amy and Arthur have going on. In that time and place, a (theoretically) vulnerable young woman being thus taken under-wing by an experienced older man was seen as a natural and good thing; nowadays... not so much.
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** The conclusion, where Amy gives up her inheritance to spare Arthur the shame of knowing he's illegitimate, feels somewhat unsatisfying to a modern audience. (Tellingly, the BBC adaptation overturns this and has Tattycoram take the evidence straight to Arthur rather than to Amy and the Meagleses.)
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* {{Parental Incest}}: The subtext is there. Amy calls her father "my own dear"; "love", etc., sleeps in the same bed with him, takes more care of him than he does of her, is compared to a Greek character who breastfeeds her father in prison, and considers Mrs. General (whom Mr. Dorrit is courting) to be "replacing" her. {{Squick}}.

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* {{Parental Incest}}: The subtext is there.''Definitely'' unintended, but to modern readers the attempt to show Amy off as a fiercely devoted daughter can have undertones of this. Amy calls her father "my own dear"; "love", etc., sleeps in the same bed with him, takes more care of him than he does of her, her and is at one point compared to a Greek character who breastfeeds her father in prison, and considers Mrs. General (whom Mr. Dorrit is courting) to be "replacing" her.prison. {{Squick}}.
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* ValuesDissonance: Modern readers often have a hard time with the {{Aesop}} that concludes Tattycoram's plot, in which she is supposed to reconcile herself to her proper station in life with the Meagles. Though it's still the lesser of two evil compared to living with crazy Miss Wade.

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* ValuesDissonance: Modern readers often have a hard time with the {{Aesop}} that concludes Tattycoram's plot, in which she is supposed to reconcile herself to her proper station in life with the Meagles. Though it's still Likewise, the lesser fact that Miss Wade, an independent woman who has made her own way in the world and who might have been a beneficient and inspiring patron for Tattycoram, turns out to be cruel and completely out of two evil compared to living touch with crazy Miss Wade.human feelings.

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-> "She loves you! The very walls can see it!"

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* {{The Woobie}}: Amy; Arthur; definitely John Chivery.

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* {{The Woobie}}: Amy; Arthur; definitely John Chivery.Chivery.
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** Not to mention the whole father/daughter vibe Amy and Arthur have going on.
* {{The Woobie}}: Amy; Arthur; definitely John Chivery.
* {{Woobie Destroyer Of Worlds}}: Mr. Merdle. The scenes in the 2009 adaptation where he talks to the parrot, or when he quietly and politely asks Fanny to lend him a penknife [[spoiler: to slit his own throat with]] are downright tragic.

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** Not to mention the The whole father/daughter vibe Amy and Arthur have going on.
* {{The Woobie}}: Amy; Arthur; definitely John Chivery.
* {{Woobie Destroyer Of Worlds}}: Mr. Merdle. The scenes in the 2009 adaptation where he talks to the parrot, or when he quietly and politely asks Fanny to lend him a penknife [[spoiler: to slit his own throat with]] are downright tragic.
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** ''Qu'est-ce qui passe ici si tard ... ''

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* {{Depraved Bisexual}}: A possible character interpretation of Miss Wade, given the posessive way she treats Tattycoram and also her backstory of falling in love with [[spoiler: Henry Gowan]].



* ValuesDissonance: Modern readers often have a hard time with the {{Aesop}} that concludes Tattycoram's plot, in which she is supposed to reconcile herself to her proper station in life with the Meagles.

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* {{Parental Incest}}: The subtext is there. Amy calls her father "my own dear"; "love", etc., sleeps in the same bed with him, takes more care of him than he does of her, is compared to a Greek character who breastfeeds her father in prison, and considers Mrs. General (whom Mr. Dorrit is courting) to be "replacing" her. {{Squick}}.
* {{Tear Jerker}}: John's outburst to Arthur after Arthur lands in the Marshalsea.
-> "She loves you! The very walls can see it!"
* ValuesDissonance: Modern readers often have a hard time with the {{Aesop}} that concludes Tattycoram's plot, in which she is supposed to reconcile herself to her proper station in life with the Meagles. Though it's still the lesser of two evil compared to living with crazy Miss Wade.
** Not to mention the whole father/daughter vibe Amy and Arthur have going on.
* {{The Woobie}}: Amy; Arthur; definitely John Chivery.
* {{Woobie Destroyer Of Worlds}}: Mr. Merdle. The scenes in the 2009 adaptation where he talks to the parrot, or when he quietly and politely asks Fanny to lend him a penknife [[spoiler: to slit his own throat with]] are downright tragic.

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