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* CommonKnowledge: The claim that ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks plagiarized]] this series has led to many people unfamiliar with the franchise making assumptions about it being more similar to ''The Lion King'' than it actually is. For instance...
** "Simba" is often thought to be "Kimba" with one letter changed. In fact, Simba is actually [[ADogNamedDog the Swahili word for lion]], and has been a StockAnimalName for lion characters [[OlderThanTheyThink as far back as the 1920s]]. This has been such a common lion name for such a long time that the English localizers were originally considering making Leo's {{dub name|change}} Simba, but decided against it because they feared the name would be too generic for them to claim as their intellectual property.
** Claw is commonly claimed by some sources to be Kimba's EvilUncle and the BigBad of the series in order to compare him to Scar. In truth, Claw has no mentioned biological relationship to Kimba, and only appears in a few episodes.
** Pumbaa is often said to have been inspired by a Kimba character named Gargoyle G. Warthog. But Gargoyle isn't the happy-go-lucky comic relief character Pumbaa is, he's a very moody and insecure guy who has a character arc about discovering his own self-worth. On an additional note, Gargoyle is not nearly as important a character as Pumbaa, only appearing in a single episode.
** "Simba" is often thought to be "Kimba" with one letter changed. In fact, Simba is actually [[ADogNamedDog the Swahili word for lion]], and has been a StockAnimalName for lion characters [[OlderThanTheyThink as far back as the 1920s]]. This has been such a common lion name for such a long time that the English localizers were originally considering making Leo's {{dub name|change}} Simba, but decided against it because they feared the name would be too generic for them to claim as their intellectual property.
** Claw is commonly claimed by some sources to be Kimba's EvilUncle and the BigBad of the series in order to compare him to Scar. In truth, Claw has no mentioned biological relationship to Kimba, and only appears in a few episodes.
** Pumbaa is often said to have been inspired by a Kimba character named Gargoyle G. Warthog. But Gargoyle isn't the happy-go-lucky comic relief character Pumbaa is, he's a very moody and insecure guy who has a character arc about discovering his own self-worth. On an additional note, Gargoyle is not nearly as important a character as Pumbaa, only appearing in a single episode.
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* CommonKnowledge: The claim that ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks plagiarized]] this series has led to many people unfamiliar with the franchise making assumptions about it being more similar to ''The Lion King'' than it actually is. Whereas in reality, any similarities beyond parts of the basic premise and some very surface-level visual and character tropes generally don't actually exist; one might as well claim that ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' is very much like ''WesternAnimation/TheJetsons'' because both are about a redheaded man in a futuristic setting and the comedic misadventures he gets involved in. For instance...
**"Simba" Simba is often thought to be "Kimba" with one letter changed. In fact, Simba "simba" is actually [[ADogNamedDog the Swahili word for lion]], and has been a StockAnimalName for lion characters lions both real and fictional [[OlderThanTheyThink as far back as the 1920s]]. This has been such a common lion name for such a long time that the English localizers were originally considering making Leo's {{dub name|change}} Simba, but decided against it because they feared the name would be too generic for them to claim as their intellectual property.
** Claw is commonly claimed by some sources to be Kimba's EvilUncle and the BigBad of the series in order to compare him to Scar. In truth, Claw has no mentioned biological relationship to Kimba, and only appears in a fewepisodes.
episodes. Moreover, his personality is very different from Scar's, being a temperamental and brutish figure rather than suave and playfully sarcastic like Scar is.
** Pumbaa is often said to have been inspired by a Kimba character named Gargoyle G. Warthog. But Gargoyle isn't the happy-go-lucky comic relief character Pumbaa is, he's a verymoody angsty and insecure guy who has a character arc about discovering his own self-worth. On an additional note, Gargoyle is not nearly as important a character as Pumbaa, only appearing in a single episode.episode of the 1965 anime.
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** Claw is commonly claimed by some sources to be Kimba's EvilUncle and the BigBad of the series in order to compare him to Scar. In truth, Claw has no mentioned biological relationship to Kimba, and only appears in a few
** Pumbaa is often said to have been inspired by a Kimba character named Gargoyle G. Warthog. But Gargoyle isn't the happy-go-lucky comic relief character Pumbaa is, he's a very
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** One can find many videos comparing shots from ''Kimba'' to shots from ''The Lion King''. What these videos generally don't say is that many of the ''Kimba'' shots are from a movie released in ''1997'', three years after ''The Lion King'' came out. The shots that ''did'' predate 1994 are generally cherry-picked from literally thousands of minutes' worth of footage, often edited together to indicate similar sequences of events that didn't actually happen, and given implicitly more importance than they ever were in the source material.
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** One can find many videos comparing shots from ''Kimba'' to shots from ''The Lion King''. What these videos generally don't say is that many of the ''Kimba'' shots are from a movie released in ''1997'', three years after ''The Lion King'' came out. out, and were made exclusively for the movie and have no counterpart in any earlier Kimba-related content. If anything, they're evidence that that particular iteration of the franchise was [[FollowTheLeader deliberately aping]] ''TLK'', rather than the other way around. The shots that ''did'' predate 1994 are generally cherry-picked from literally thousands of more than 3,000 minutes' worth of footage, often edited together to indicate similar sequences of events that didn't actually happen, and given not only implicitly given more importance than they ever were in the source material.material but also [[ManipulativeEditing edited together in misleading ways]] to make it look like they happened in sequences mirroring events in ''TLK''. As Adam Johnston of ''WebVideo/YourMovieSucksDotOrg'' fame has [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uw6tHkgOQQ pointed out]], one could very easily make the same arguments about ''Kimba'' being superficially similar to properties that have predated ''it''.
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** Pumbaa is often said to have been inspired by a Kimba character named Gargoyle G. Warthog. But Gargoyle isn't the happy-go-lucky comic relief character Pumbaa is, he's a very moody and insecure guy who has a character arc about discovering his own self-worth.
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** Pumbaa is often said to have been inspired by a Kimba character named Gargoyle G. Warthog. But Gargoyle isn't the happy-go-lucky comic relief character Pumbaa is, he's a very moody and insecure guy who has a character arc about discovering his own self-worth. On an additional note, Gargoyle is not nearly as important a character as Pumbaa, only appearing in a single episode.
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** "Simba" is often thought to be "Kimba" with one letter changed. In fact, Simba is actually [[ADogNamedDog the Swahili word for lion]], and has been a StockAnimalName for lion characters [[OlderThanTheyThink as far back as the 1920s]]. This has been such a common lion name for such a long time that the English localizers were originally considering making Leo's {{dub name|change}} Simba, but decided against it because they feared the name would be too generic for them to claim as their intellectual property.
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** Pauly Cracker is often compared to Zazu since both are birds, and thus many assume Pauly to be a royal majordomo with a similar uptight personality. In fact, Pauly is just a friend of Kimba's without having any true royal status, and has more of a HairTriggerTemper personality in contrast to Zazu's more timid and loyal attitude.
** Many sources mention both series having a wise baboon/mandrill as characters. However, Dan'l Baboon is not an eccentric witch doctor like Rafiki is, and is more of a stereotypical GrumpyOldMan.
** Many sources mention both series having a wise baboon/mandrill as characters. However, Dan'l Baboon is not an eccentric witch doctor like Rafiki is, and is more of a stereotypical GrumpyOldMan.
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** Pumbaa is often said to have been inspired by a Kimba character named Gargoyle G. Warthog. But Gargoyle isn't the happy-go-lucky comic relief character Pumbaa is, he's a very moody and insecure guy who has a character arc about discovering his own self-worth.
** Pauly Cracker is often compared to Zazu since both are birds, and thus many assume Pauly to be a royal majordomo with a similar uptight personality. In fact, Pauly is just a friend of Kimba'swithout having who doesn't have any true royal status, such position in the court, and has more of a HairTriggerTemper personality in contrast to Zazu's more timid and loyal attitude.
** Many sources mention both series having a wise baboon/mandrill as characters. However, Dan'l Baboon is not an eccentric witch doctor like Rafiki is, and is more of a stereotypicalGrumpyOldMan. GrumpyOldMan.
** One can find many videos comparing shots from ''Kimba'' to shots from ''The Lion King''. What these videos generally don't say is that many of the ''Kimba'' shots are from a movie released in ''1997'', three years after ''The Lion King'' came out. The shots that ''did'' predate 1994 are generally cherry-picked from literally thousands of minutes' worth of footage, often edited together to indicate similar sequences of events that didn't actually happen, and given implicitly more importance than they ever were in the source material.
** A panel from the manga with a very leonine cloud is often cited as similar to the ghost of Mufasa that appears to Simba. But this isn't the ghost of Kimba's father, nor was it the inspiration for the dead Mufasa appearing before Simba -- that came from ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}''.
** Pauly Cracker is often compared to Zazu since both are birds, and thus many assume Pauly to be a royal majordomo with a similar uptight personality. In fact, Pauly is just a friend of Kimba's
** Many sources mention both series having a wise baboon/mandrill as characters. However, Dan'l Baboon is not an eccentric witch doctor like Rafiki is, and is more of a stereotypical
** One can find many videos comparing shots from ''Kimba'' to shots from ''The Lion King''. What these videos generally don't say is that many of the ''Kimba'' shots are from a movie released in ''1997'', three years after ''The Lion King'' came out. The shots that ''did'' predate 1994 are generally cherry-picked from literally thousands of minutes' worth of footage, often edited together to indicate similar sequences of events that didn't actually happen, and given implicitly more importance than they ever were in the source material.
** A panel from the manga with a very leonine cloud is often cited as similar to the ghost of Mufasa that appears to Simba. But this isn't the ghost of Kimba's father, nor was it the inspiration for the dead Mufasa appearing before Simba -- that came from ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}''.
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* DesignatedHero: Kimba/Leo does some very unheroic and appalling things in the 1966 series that the audience is meant to side with him on because he's the main character - like abusing his newborn son and abandoning him in the jungle to fend for himself, or helping to escalate a bloodbath between a hunter and a group of leopards because of his own warped sense of morality. The show does have him get called out by people on this, but it still treats him like a good father who just needs to learn more, and no matter how much there are some justifications, Kimba/Leo comes across as hard to feel justified as a character.
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* DesignatedHero: Kimba/Leo does some very unheroic and appalling things in the 1966 series that the audience is meant to side with him on because he's the main character - like abusing his newborn son and abandoning him in the jungle to fend for himself, or helping to escalate a bloodbath between a hunter and a group of leopards because of his own warped sense of morality. The show does have him get called out by people on this, but it still treats him like a good father who just needs to learn more, and no matter how much there are some justifications, this version of Kimba/Leo comes across as hard to feel justified as a character.
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** The first episode of the 1989 series adapts the first chapter of the manga with the black characters being portrayed more respectively and by "more respectively" we mean "not as racist caricatures otherwise known as 'Blackface.'" Likewise, the MightyWhitey element of Mary as Conga/Tonga becoming leader of an African tribe is removed by having the character being a member of the tribe by birth named Conga/Tonga.
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** The first episode of the 1989 series adapts the first chapter of the manga with the black characters being portrayed more respectively respectfully and by "more respectively" respectfully" we mean "not as racist caricatures otherwise known as 'Blackface.'" Likewise, the MightyWhitey element of Mary as Conga/Tonga becoming leader of an African tribe is removed by having the character being a member of the tribe by birth named Conga/Tonga.
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** In the same clip, there's also that weird constipated grunting sound Rukio makes when the gorilla grabs her tail.
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** In the same clip, there's also that weird constipated grunting sound constipated-sounding groaning Rukio makes when the gorilla grabs her tail.
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** This line from a gorilla, made even more hilarious by the voice acting. Oh, and if you watch closely, she didn't even ''[[OffModel bite his toe.]]''
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** This line from a gorilla, made even more hilarious by the voice acting. Oh, and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg-cV9t3Zhc&ab_channel=Steffie if you watch closely, closely]], she didn't even ''[[OffModel bite his toe.]]''
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** Kimba/Leo keeps his deceased father's pelt around, frequently talks to it like Ceasar is still there with him in spirit, and occasionally uses it to inspire other animals. This is portrayed as something completely normal, and while it's disturbing at first, after a few episodes it starts to become hilariously morbid. Especially since the 1966 series reveals that Leo's kids, Rune and Rukio, would also have a connection with their grandfather's corpse.
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** Kimba/Leo keeps his deceased father's pelt around, frequently talks to it like Ceasar is still there with him in spirit, plays with it, and occasionally uses it to inspire other animals. This is portrayed as something completely normal, and while it's disturbing at first, after a few episodes it starts to become hilariously morbid. Especially since the 1966 series reveals that Leo's kids, Rune and Rukio, would also have a connection with their grandfather's corpse.
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* Kimba/Leo keeps his deceased father's pelt around, frequently talks to it like Ceasar is still there with him in spirit, and occasionally uses it to inspire other animals. This is portrayed as something completely normal, and while it's disturbing at first, after a few episodes it starts to become hilariously morbid. Especially since the 1966 series reveals that Leo's kids, Rune and Rukio, would also have a connection with their grandfather's corpse.
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* Kimba/Leo keeps his deceased father's pelt around, frequently talks to it like Ceasar is still there with him in spirit, and occasionally uses it to inspire other animals. This is portrayed as something completely normal, and while it's disturbing at first, after a few episodes it starts to become hilariously morbid. Especially since the 1966 series reveals that Leo's kids, Rune and Rukio, would also have a connection with their grandfather's corpse.
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* CommonKnowledge: The claim that ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks plagiarized]] this series has led to many people unfamiliar with the franchise to make assumptions about it being more similar to ''The Lion King'' than it actually is. For instance...
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* CommonKnowledge: The claim that ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks plagiarized]] this series has led to many people unfamiliar with the franchise to make making assumptions about it being more similar to ''The Lion King'' than it actually is. For instance...
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Common Knowledge is not for behind the scenes/meta stuff, but for misconceptions about the work itself from people unfamiliar with it.
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* CommonKnowledge: The claim that ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' infringed on the copyrights of Creator/OsamuTezuka in regards to ''Kimba the White Lion''. Many people "know" this, but in fact, Tezuka and Tezuka's estate have said there was no infringement of copyrights. For what it's worth, nobody has actually sued anyone over this claim.
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* CommonKnowledge: The claim that ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' infringed on the copyrights of Creator/OsamuTezuka in regards [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks plagiarized]] this series has led to ''Kimba the White Lion''. Many many people "know" this, but in fact, Tezuka and Tezuka's estate have said there was no infringement of copyrights. For what it's worth, nobody has unfamiliar with the franchise to make assumptions about it being more similar to ''The Lion King'' than it actually sued anyone over this claim.is. For instance...
** Claw is commonly claimed by some sources to be Kimba's EvilUncle and the BigBad of the series in order to compare him to Scar. In truth, Claw has no mentioned biological relationship to Kimba, and only appears in a few episodes.
** Pauly Cracker is often compared to Zazu since both are birds, and thus many assume Pauly to be a royal majordomo with a similar uptight personality. In fact, Pauly is just a friend of Kimba's without having any true royal status, and has more of a HairTriggerTemper personality in contrast to Zazu's more timid and loyal attitude.
** Many sources mention both series having a wise baboon/mandrill as characters. However, Dan'l Baboon is not an eccentric witch doctor like Rafiki is, and is more of a stereotypical GrumpyOldMan.
** Claw is commonly claimed by some sources to be Kimba's EvilUncle and the BigBad of the series in order to compare him to Scar. In truth, Claw has no mentioned biological relationship to Kimba, and only appears in a few episodes.
** Pauly Cracker is often compared to Zazu since both are birds, and thus many assume Pauly to be a royal majordomo with a similar uptight personality. In fact, Pauly is just a friend of Kimba's without having any true royal status, and has more of a HairTriggerTemper personality in contrast to Zazu's more timid and loyal attitude.
** Many sources mention both series having a wise baboon/mandrill as characters. However, Dan'l Baboon is not an eccentric witch doctor like Rafiki is, and is more of a stereotypical GrumpyOldMan.
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** The Leo the Lion English dub, done in 1984 (for a 1966 series!), is filled with many [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAldih45YJY unintentionally hilarious moments.]]
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** The Leo ''Leo the Lion Lion'' English dub, done in 1984 (for a 1966 series!), is filled with many [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAldih45YJY unintentionally hilarious moments.]]
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** "Too Many Elephants" (AKA the infamous "elephant genocide" episode) has a ridiculously over-the-top sequence close to the end where the entire elephant herd is killed by humans in ''[[TankGoodness tanks]]''. Once they're all dead, Kimba gives us this line that comes across as [[BlackComedy hilariously dark]] out of context.
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** "Too Many Elephants" (AKA (a.k.a. the infamous "elephant genocide" episode) has a ridiculously over-the-top sequence close to the end where the entire elephant herd is killed by humans in ''[[TankGoodness tanks]]''. Once they're all dead, Kimba gives us this line that comes across as [[BlackComedy hilariously dark]] out of context.
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** ''Onward Leo!'' isn't well liked by many fans of the original series due to how Kimba TookALevelInJerkass and became an abusive parent and husband. The racially insensitive caricatures and godawful English dub also don't help.
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** ''Onward Leo!'' isn't well liked by many fans of the original series due to how Kimba TookALevelInJerkass and became an AdaptationalJerkass who's an abusive parent and husband. The racially insensitive caricatures and godawful English dub also don't help.
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** "Too Many Elephants" (AKA the infamous "elephant genocide" episode) has a ridiculously over-the-top sequence close to the end where the entire elephant herd is killed by humans in ''[[TankGoodness tanks]]''. Once they're all dead, Kimba gives us this line that comes across as [[BlackComedy hilariously dark]] out of context.
---> Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated.
---> Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated.
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* MemeticMolester: Claw became this after the episode ''Battle at Dead River'' where he tried to marry Kitty. And then there's the exchange they have when they first meet:
-->'''Claw''': Well, Well, I'm Claw.
-->'''Kitty''': Are... Are you talking to me?
-->'''Claw''': (salivating at the mouth) That's right; you're a pretty young thing aren't you? I like you. How you'd like to be my queen when you get a little bit older?
-->'''Kitty''': Your queen?
-->'''Claw''': Yes.
-->'''Kitty''': I don't think so, but it was very nice of you to ask.
-->'''Claw''': Alright,(now talking to his [[GoldFishPoopGang hyenas]]) take care of her boys!
-->'''Claw''': Well, Well, I'm Claw.
-->'''Kitty''': Are... Are you talking to me?
-->'''Claw''': (salivating at the mouth) That's right; you're a pretty young thing aren't you? I like you. How you'd like to be my queen when you get a little bit older?
-->'''Kitty''': Your queen?
-->'''Claw''': Yes.
-->'''Kitty''': I don't think so, but it was very nice of you to ask.
-->'''Claw''': Alright,(now talking to his [[GoldFishPoopGang hyenas]]) take care of her boys!
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* MemeticMolester: Claw became this after the episode ''Battle at Dead River'' where he tried to marry Kitty. And then there's the exchange they have when When they first meet:
-->'''Claw''': Well, Well, I'm Claw.
-->'''Kitty''': Are... Are you talkingmeet, he creepily asks her to me?
-->'''Claw''': (salivating at the mouth) That's right; you're a pretty young thing aren't you? I like you. How you'd like to be my queen when you get a little bit older?
-->'''Kitty''': Your queen?
-->'''Claw''': Yes.
-->'''Kitty''': I don't think so, but it was very nice of you to ask.
-->'''Claw''': Alright,(now talking tobecome his [[GoldFishPoopGang hyenas]]) take care of her boys!bride. When she refuses, he orders his hyenas to capture her.
-->'''Claw''': Well, Well, I'm Claw.
-->'''Kitty''': Are... Are you talking
-->'''Claw''': (salivating at the mouth) That's right; you're a pretty young thing aren't you? I like you. How you'd like to be my queen when you get a little bit older?
-->'''Kitty''': Your queen?
-->'''Claw''': Yes.
-->'''Kitty''': I don't think so, but it was very nice of you to ask.
-->'''Claw''': Alright,(now talking to
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* MemeticMutation:
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMptlNNBiKg SING A HUMAN SONG!]]" [[note]]The English translation of "A-I-U-E-O Mambo" in episode 3[[/note]]
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmf7qYnhlLA Wa wa wa wa wa wa waaaaa]]" [[note]]The Jungle Chorus from episode 13, which was used in the ''WebVideo/YourmoviesucksDOTorg'' video on Kimba.[[/note]]
** X copied Kimba! [[note]]A parody of the claim that Disney copied Kimba based on superficial similarities. Common claims are how real life ripped off Kimba for having animals.[[/note]]
** "I’m being bullied because I’m white![[note]]Said by YMMV/YourmoviesucksDOTorg referencing episode 14 when Kimba is picked on by other lions for having white fur.[[/note]]
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg-cV9t3Zhc "Oh you bit me. Oh you bit my toe. Oh my poor toe. That's not fair."]].
** "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated."[[note]]A line Kimba says in the infamous "elephant genocide" episode after all the elephants are killed by hunters in tanks despite Kimba trying to warn them beforehand.[[/note]]
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMptlNNBiKg SING A HUMAN SONG!]]" [[note]]The English translation of "A-I-U-E-O Mambo" in episode 3[[/note]]
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmf7qYnhlLA Wa wa wa wa wa wa waaaaa]]" [[note]]The Jungle Chorus from episode 13, which was used in the ''WebVideo/YourmoviesucksDOTorg'' video on Kimba.[[/note]]
** X copied Kimba! [[note]]A parody of the claim that Disney copied Kimba based on superficial similarities. Common claims are how real life ripped off Kimba for having animals.[[/note]]
** "I’m being bullied because I’m white![[note]]Said by YMMV/YourmoviesucksDOTorg referencing episode 14 when Kimba is picked on by other lions for having white fur.[[/note]]
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg-cV9t3Zhc "Oh you bit me. Oh you bit my toe. Oh my poor toe. That's not fair."]].
** "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated."[[note]]A line Kimba says in the infamous "elephant genocide" episode after all the elephants are killed by hunters in tanks despite Kimba trying to warn them beforehand.[[/note]]
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* MemeticMutation:
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMptlNNBiKg SING A HUMAN SONG!]]" [[note]]The English translation of "A-I-U-E-O Mambo" in episode 3[[/note]]
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmf7qYnhlLA Wa wa wa wa wa wa waaaaa]]" [[note]]The Jungle Chorus from episode 13, which was used in the ''WebVideo/YourmoviesucksDOTorg'' video on Kimba.[[/note]]
**MemeticMutation: X copied Kimba! [[note]]A parody of the claim that Disney copied Kimba based on superficial similarities. Common claims are how real life ripped off Kimba for having animals.[[/note]]
** "I’m being bullied because I’m white![[note]]Said by YMMV/YourmoviesucksDOTorg referencing episode 14 when Kimba is picked on by other lions for having white fur.[[/note]]
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg-cV9t3Zhc "Oh you bit me. Oh you bit my toe. Oh my poor toe. That's not fair."]].
** "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated."[[note]]A line Kimba says in the infamous "elephant genocide" episode after all the elephants are killed by hunters in tanks despite Kimba trying to warn them beforehand.[[/note]]
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMptlNNBiKg SING A HUMAN SONG!]]" [[note]]The English translation of "A-I-U-E-O Mambo" in episode 3[[/note]]
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmf7qYnhlLA Wa wa wa wa wa wa waaaaa]]" [[note]]The Jungle Chorus from episode 13, which was used in the ''WebVideo/YourmoviesucksDOTorg'' video on Kimba.[[/note]]
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** "I’m being bullied because I’m white![[note]]Said by YMMV/YourmoviesucksDOTorg referencing episode 14 when Kimba is picked on by other lions for having white fur.[[/note]]
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg-cV9t3Zhc "Oh you bit me. Oh you bit my toe. Oh my poor toe. That's not fair."]].
** "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated."[[note]]A line Kimba says in the infamous "elephant genocide" episode after all the elephants are killed by hunters in tanks despite Kimba trying to warn them beforehand.
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* AccidentalInnuendo: The show is full of them. Seriously, if you watch the series on Website/YouTube and read the comments, half of them are about something involving sex.
** "Now I'm on top!!!"
** "Now I'm on top!!!"
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Misuse. Narm is a moment that i meant to be serious, but comes across as funny. This example does not explain how Kimba's obsession can be seen as humorous, and the last part of the example reads as Justifying Edit.
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** Kimba has a very strange, kind of creepy and sad obsession with his deceased father's hide. He talks to it, ''wears'' it, ''crawls inside'' it, sits on it, etc... There is one episode that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5B1mIfQuo4&t=46m5s establishes]] that this is some weird family tradition; his father also did this with his father, and so on and so on, for at least hundreds of generations. At one point, they even have to save the hundreds of pelts of Kimba's ancestors.
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** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMptlNNBiKg SING A HUMAN SONG!]]" [[note]]The English translation of "A-I-U-E-O Mambo" in episode 3[[/note]]
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmf7qYnhlLA Wa wa wa wa wa wa waaaaa]]" [[note]]The Jungle Chorus from episode 13, which was used in the ''WebVideo/YourmoviesucksDOTorg'' video on Kimba.[[/note]]
** X copied Kimba! [[note]]A parody of the claim that Disney copied Kimba based on superficial similarities. Common claims are how real life ripped off Kimba for having animals.[[/note]]
** "I’m being bullied because I’m white![[note]]Said by YMMV/YourmoviesucksDOTorg referencing episode 14 when Kimba is picked on by other lions for having white fur.[[/note]]
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg-cV9t3Zhc "Oh you bit me. Oh you bit my toe. Oh my poor toe. That's not fair."]].
** "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated."[[note]]A line Kimba says in the infamous "elephant genocide" episode after all the elephants are killed by hunters in tanks despite Kimba trying to warn them beforehand.[[/note]]
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMptlNNBiKg SING A HUMAN SONG!]]" [[note]]The English translation of "A-I-U-E-O Mambo" in episode 3[[/note]]
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmf7qYnhlLA Wa wa wa wa wa wa waaaaa]]" [[note]]The Jungle Chorus from episode 13, which was used in the ''WebVideo/YourmoviesucksDOTorg'' video on Kimba.[[/note]]
** X copied Kimba! [[note]]A parody of the claim that Disney copied Kimba based on superficial similarities. Common claims are how real life ripped off Kimba for having animals.[[/note]]
** "I’m being bullied because I’m white![[note]]Said by YMMV/YourmoviesucksDOTorg referencing episode 14 when Kimba is picked on by other lions for having white fur.[[/note]]
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg-cV9t3Zhc "Oh you bit me. Oh you bit my toe. Oh my poor toe. That's not fair."]].
** "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated."[[note]]A line Kimba says in the infamous "elephant genocide" episode after all the elephants are killed by hunters in tanks despite Kimba trying to warn them beforehand.[[/note]]
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** Kimba has a very strange, kind of creepy and sad obsession with his deceased father's hide. He talks to it, ''wears'' it, ''crawls inside'' it, sits on it, etc... There is one episode that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5B1mIfQuo4&t=46m5s establishes]] that this is some weird family tradition; his father also did this with his father, and so on and so on, for at least hundreds of generations. At one point, they even have to save the hundreds of pelts of Kimba's ancestors.
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We can just mention what the "common knowledge" is and the fact that the creator himself disagreed as does his estate. There doesn't need to be a back-and-forth.
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* CommonKnowledge: Multiple:
** Thanks to internet memes, it's "known" that ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' was a plagiarism of Kimba. Guess how many of these people actually ''know'' what Kimba is ''actually'' about. For instance, many sources claim Claw to be Kimba's uncle in order to compare him to Scar, and make him out to be the BigBad of the series. In truth, Claw has no mentioned biological relationship to Kimba, and only appears as an antagonist in a small handful of episodes.
** People who have watched [=YourMovieSucks=]' documentary claiming to debunk the plagiarism claim have also started to spread their fair share of misinformation, claiming it is a "racist, colonialist, morally backwards" show and generally painting it in a negative light, [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch despite not having watched it themselves]]. For example, people often claim that "Kimba has an episode in which he supports elephant genocide", despite the fact that ''Kimba actually spends the whole episode trying to save said elephants''. The confusion may have stemmed from Kimba's infamous "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated" line, which comes across as UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming to some. In his video ''YMV'' does point out things like the racism argument being a case of FairForItsDay, but naturally people took it as fact.
** Thanks to internet memes, it's "known" that ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' was a plagiarism of Kimba. Guess how many of these people actually ''know'' what Kimba is ''actually'' about. For instance, many sources claim Claw to be Kimba's uncle in order to compare him to Scar, and make him out to be the BigBad of the series. In truth, Claw has no mentioned biological relationship to Kimba, and only appears as an antagonist in a small handful of episodes.
** People who have watched [=YourMovieSucks=]' documentary claiming to debunk the plagiarism claim have also started to spread their fair share of misinformation, claiming it is a "racist, colonialist, morally backwards" show and generally painting it in a negative light, [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch despite not having watched it themselves]]. For example, people often claim that "Kimba has an episode in which he supports elephant genocide", despite the fact that ''Kimba actually spends the whole episode trying to save said elephants''. The confusion may have stemmed from Kimba's infamous "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated" line, which comes across as UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming to some. In his video ''YMV'' does point out things like the racism argument being a case of FairForItsDay, but naturally people took it as fact.
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* CommonKnowledge: Multiple:
** Thanks to internet memes, it's "known"The claim that ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' was a plagiarism of Kimba. Guess how many of these people actually ''know'' what Kimba is ''actually'' about. For instance, many sources claim Claw to be Kimba's uncle in order to compare him to Scar, and make him out to be infringed on the BigBad copyrights of the series. In truth, Claw has no mentioned biological relationship Creator/OsamuTezuka in regards to Kimba, and only appears as an antagonist in a small handful of episodes.
** People who have watched [=YourMovieSucks=]' documentary claiming to debunk the plagiarism claim have also started to spread their fair share of misinformation, claiming it is a "racist, colonialist, morally backwards" show and generally painting it in a negative light, [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch despite not having watched it themselves]]. For example, people often claim that "Kimba has an episode in which he supports elephant genocide", despite the fact that''Kimba the White Lion''. Many people "know" this, but in fact, Tezuka and Tezuka's estate have said there was no infringement of copyrights. For what it's worth, nobody has actually spends the whole episode trying to save said elephants''. The confusion may have stemmed from Kimba's infamous "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated" line, which comes across as UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming to some. In his video ''YMV'' does point out things like the racism argument being a case of FairForItsDay, but naturally people took it as fact.sued anyone over this claim.
** Thanks to internet memes, it's "known"
** People who have watched [=YourMovieSucks=]' documentary claiming to debunk the plagiarism claim have also started to spread their fair share of misinformation, claiming it is a "racist, colonialist, morally backwards" show and generally painting it in a negative light, [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch despite not having watched it themselves]]. For example, people often claim that "Kimba has an episode in which he supports elephant genocide", despite the fact that
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* DesignatedHero: Kimba / Leo does some very unheroic and appalling things in the 1966 series that the audience is meant to side with him on because he's the main character - like abusing his newborn son and abandoning him in the jungle to fend for himself, or helping to escalate a bloodbath between a hunter and a group of leopards because of his own warped sense of morality. The show does have him get called out by people on this, but it still treats him like a good father who just needs to learn more, and no matter how much there are some justifications, Kimba / Leo comes across as hard to feel justified as a character.
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* DesignatedHero: Kimba / Leo Kimba/Leo does some very unheroic and appalling things in the 1966 series that the audience is meant to side with him on because he's the main character - like abusing his newborn son and abandoning him in the jungle to fend for himself, or helping to escalate a bloodbath between a hunter and a group of leopards because of his own warped sense of morality. The show does have him get called out by people on this, but it still treats him like a good father who just needs to learn more, and no matter how much there are some justifications, Kimba / Leo Kimba/Leo comes across as hard to feel justified as a character.
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** The ending of the Manga where [[spoiler: Kimba sacrifices his life to save Dr. Moustache, never getting a chance to see his son again. Some people prefer the adaptation of the ending in ''Onward Leo!'' where Kimba lives]].
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** The ending of the Manga manga where [[spoiler: Kimba [[spoiler:Kimba sacrifices his life to save Dr. Moustache, never getting a chance to see his son again. Some people prefer the adaptation of the ending in ''Onward Leo!'' where Kimba lives]].
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** The 1966 Onward Leo series is even ''less'' faithful to the original manga and even ''more'' episodic than its predecessor, despite Tezuka having complete control over it. It only lasted 26 episodes and the DarkerAndEdgier tone, coupled with [[ContinuitySnarl several continuity issues]], characters from the original being DemotedToExtra, and the reinstatement of [[ValuesDissonance racially insensitive depictions of African natives,]] scared away potential buyers from the West. The series wasn't dubbed in English until 1984, when it received what's possibly the cheapest voice work made for American television of all time.
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** The 1966 Onward Leo ''Onward Leo!'' series is even ''less'' faithful to the original manga and even ''more'' episodic than its predecessor, despite Tezuka having complete control over it. It only lasted 26 episodes and the DarkerAndEdgier tone, coupled with [[ContinuitySnarl several continuity issues]], characters from the original being DemotedToExtra, and the reinstatement of [[ValuesDissonance racially insensitive depictions of African natives,]] scared away potential buyers from the West. The series wasn't dubbed in English until 1984, when it received what's possibly the cheapest voice work made for American television of all time.
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* ValuesResonance: On the other hand, both the comic and the cartoon generally have a strong anti-war, anti-nazi, environmental, pro-peace and equality messaging, which are topics extremely relevant to this day and age.
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* ValuesResonance: On the other hand, both the comic and the cartoon generally have a strong anti-war, anti-nazi, anti-Nazi, environmental, pro-peace and equality messaging, which are topics extremely relevant to this day and age.
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** Rune in Onward Leo. He's neither as physically adept nor as brave as his sister Rukio, and Leo is absolutely awful to him.
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** Rune in Onward Leo.''Onward Leo!''. He's neither as physically adept nor as brave as his sister Rukio, and Leo is absolutely awful to him.
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*** While fans will admit the 1990s redub sticks closer to the Japanese Script generally, they disliked that the dub removed the original background music and non-dubbed voices. There's also a feeling that the original dub cast overall gave a better performance of the characters and that despite some confusion and censorship still retains much of the intended spirit of the show.
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*** While fans will admit the 1990s redub sticks closer to the Japanese Script script generally, they disliked that the dub removed the original background music and non-dubbed voices. There's also a feeling that the original dub cast overall gave a better performance of the characters and that despite some confusion and censorship still retains much of the intended spirit of the show.
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Not only is that video an unlisted video, but the point says "may have", and the entry isn't even about this moving copying it, so it doesn't belong here at all.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: There was much controversy over whether the Disney film ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' is a ripoff of ''Kimba'' or not, which has since [[https://youtu.be/GrZTdOwygPs not been debunked but in fact there is evidence that Disney did in fact rip it off]].
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It doesn't matter if Tezuka had racist views or not, these are still racial caricatures. (Also, natter.)
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* ValuesDissonance: Certain aspects from the original comic did not age well, particularly some scenes that tend to depict African people as [[{{Blackface}} racist]] [[DarkestAfrica stereotypes]] from old cartoons. However, people are too quick to pull the race card and don't know anything about how Osamu Tezuka modeled his human characters. Many humans had exaggerated features including his own likeness in his animation. Giving himself a bulbous nose. The man was simply not a racist, but people see what they want to see. Same with people claiming that Walt Disney was an anti-Semite. Which simply is not true.
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* ValuesDissonance: Certain aspects from the original comic did not age well, particularly some scenes that tend to depict African people as [[{{Blackface}} racist]] [[DarkestAfrica stereotypes]] from old cartoons. However, people are too quick to pull the race card and don't know anything about how Osamu Tezuka modeled his human characters. Many humans had exaggerated features including his own likeness in his animation. Giving himself a bulbous nose. The man was simply not a racist, but people see what they want to see. Same with people claiming that Walt Disney was an anti-Semite. Which simply is not true.
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* ValuesDissonance: Certain aspects from the original comic did not age well, particularly some scenes that tend to depict African people as [[{{Blackface}} racist]] [[DarkestAfrica stereotypes]] from old cartoons.
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* ValuesDissonance: Certain aspects from the original comic did not age well, particularly some scenes that tend to depict African people as [[{{Blackface}} racist]] [[DarkestAfrica stereotypes]] from old cartoons. However, people are too quick to pull the race card and don't know anything about how Osamu Tezuka modeled his human characters. Many humans had exaggerated features including his own likeness in his animation. Giving himself a bulbous nose. The man was simply not a racist, but people see what they want to see. Same with people claiming that Walt Disney was an anti-Semite. Which simply is not true.
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Lets speak to the quality of the work and not the video. Plus he does mention many things, and he talks about how weird the show is, but he doesn't say it sbad.
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* AmericansHateTingle: While WebVideo/YourMovieSucksDotOrg has not put the claims that ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing'' is a ''Kimba'' rip-off to rest, he unfortunately appears to have also given American audiences a very negative perception of ''Kimba'' in the process, with many dismissing it as crappy, [[ValuesDIssonance horribly dated]] schlock that proves even Creator/OsamuTezuka could have off-days. In contrast, it is a widely beloved classic in Japan. The fact that [[BadExportForYou some of the English dubs of the series are particularly poor]] definitely doesn't help. His review leaves out key elements, such as Simba was originally going to be a white lion, and a scene in Lion King production artwork where Mufasa appears to Simba in the moon while Simba is sitting on a large rock formation. This exact scene happened in Kimba.
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** Thanks to internet memes, it's "known" that ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' was a plagiarism of Kimba. Guess how many of these people actually ''know'' what Kimba is ''actually'' about.
*** For instance, many sources claim Claw to be Kimba's uncle in order to compare him to Scar, and make him out to be the BigBad of the series. In truth, Claw has no mentioned biological relationship to Kimba, and only appears as an antagonist in a small handful of episodes.
** People who have watched [=YourMovieSucks=]' documentary claiming to debunk (but does not) the plagiarism claim have also started to spread their fair share of misinformation, claiming it is a "racist, colonialist, morally backwards" show and generally painting it in a negative light, [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch despite not having watched it themselves]]. For example, people often claim that "Kimba has an episode in which he supports elephant genocide", despite the fact that ''Kimba actually spends the whole episode trying to save said elephants''. The confusion may have stemmed from Kimba's infamous "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated" line, which comes across as UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming to some.
* CrossesTheLineTwice: In several series, Kimba preserves his father's hide in his home. Unfortunately, the "hide" looks more like a corpse, so most interactions with it come off as BlackComedy - this can range from it being cleaned, [[NemeanSkinning worn]], used as a hiding spot and even as a ''chair''. One episode goes even further and has an ''[[UpToEleven entire sancturary]]'' filled with the hide-corpses of Kimba's ancestors, which are also subjected to similar (mis)treatment.
* DesignatedHero: Kimba / Leo does some very unheroic and appalling things in the 1966 series that the audience is meant to side with him on because he's the main character - like abusing his newborn son and abandoning him in the jungle to fend for himself, or helping to escalate a bloodbath between a hunter and a group of leopards because of his own warped sense of morality.
** It could be argued that the viewer is not meant to side with Kimba / Leo during the times he abuses his son, as he is reprimanded on-screen by his wife and friends immediately after, who call him "[[HumansAreBastards a human being]]" for acting like that. A lot of the 1966 series is about Leo's development as a father, and for that to happen, the viewer must also witness him committing mistakes. Also, the leopards in that episode clearly state they clawed a child's eyes and left him blind for life, right before they also try to kill Leo for feeling empathy for a human being. The leopards are clearly not the good guys of the episode and Leo's motivation for helping the blind man is more rooted in the fact they are homicidal jerks. In the original manga, the blind man lives, but the ending was changed in the anime possibly for glorifying revenge, no matter how justified.
*** For instance, many sources claim Claw to be Kimba's uncle in order to compare him to Scar, and make him out to be the BigBad of the series. In truth, Claw has no mentioned biological relationship to Kimba, and only appears as an antagonist in a small handful of episodes.
** People who have watched [=YourMovieSucks=]' documentary claiming to debunk (but does not) the plagiarism claim have also started to spread their fair share of misinformation, claiming it is a "racist, colonialist, morally backwards" show and generally painting it in a negative light, [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch despite not having watched it themselves]]. For example, people often claim that "Kimba has an episode in which he supports elephant genocide", despite the fact that ''Kimba actually spends the whole episode trying to save said elephants''. The confusion may have stemmed from Kimba's infamous "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated" line, which comes across as UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming to some.
* CrossesTheLineTwice: In several series, Kimba preserves his father's hide in his home. Unfortunately, the "hide" looks more like a corpse, so most interactions with it come off as BlackComedy - this can range from it being cleaned, [[NemeanSkinning worn]], used as a hiding spot and even as a ''chair''. One episode goes even further and has an ''[[UpToEleven entire sancturary]]'' filled with the hide-corpses of Kimba's ancestors, which are also subjected to similar (mis)treatment.
* DesignatedHero: Kimba / Leo does some very unheroic and appalling things in the 1966 series that the audience is meant to side with him on because he's the main character - like abusing his newborn son and abandoning him in the jungle to fend for himself, or helping to escalate a bloodbath between a hunter and a group of leopards because of his own warped sense of morality.
** It could be argued that the viewer is not meant to side with Kimba / Leo during the times he abuses his son, as he is reprimanded on-screen by his wife and friends immediately after, who call him "[[HumansAreBastards a human being]]" for acting like that. A lot of the 1966 series is about Leo's development as a father, and for that to happen, the viewer must also witness him committing mistakes. Also, the leopards in that episode clearly state they clawed a child's eyes and left him blind for life, right before they also try to kill Leo for feeling empathy for a human being. The leopards are clearly not the good guys of the episode and Leo's motivation for helping the blind man is more rooted in the fact they are homicidal jerks. In the original manga, the blind man lives, but the ending was changed in the anime possibly for glorifying revenge, no matter how justified.
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** Thanks to internet memes, it's "known" that ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' was a plagiarism of Kimba. Guess how many of these people actually ''know'' what Kimba is ''actually'' about.
***about. For instance, many sources claim Claw to be Kimba's uncle in order to compare him to Scar, and make him out to be the BigBad of the series. In truth, Claw has no mentioned biological relationship to Kimba, and only appears as an antagonist in a small handful of episodes.
** People who have watched [=YourMovieSucks=]' documentary claiming to debunk(but does not) the plagiarism claim have also started to spread their fair share of misinformation, claiming it is a "racist, colonialist, morally backwards" show and generally painting it in a negative light, [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch despite not having watched it themselves]]. For example, people often claim that "Kimba has an episode in which he supports elephant genocide", despite the fact that ''Kimba actually spends the whole episode trying to save said elephants''. The confusion may have stemmed from Kimba's infamous "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated" line, which comes across as UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming to some. \n In his video ''YMV'' does point out things like the racism argument being a case of FairForItsDay, but naturally people took it as fact.
* CrossesTheLineTwice: In several series, Kimba preserves his father's hide in his home. Unfortunately, the "hide" looks more like a corpse, so most interactions with it come off as BlackComedy - this can range from it being cleaned, [[NemeanSkinning worn]], used as a hiding spot and even as a ''chair''. One episode goes even further and has an ''[[UpToEleven entiresancturary]]'' sanctuary]]'' filled with the hide-corpses of Kimba's ancestors, which are also subjected to similar (mis)treatment.
* DesignatedHero: Kimba / Leo does some very unheroic and appalling things in the 1966 series that the audience is meant to side with him on because he's the main character - like abusing his newborn son and abandoning him in the jungle to fend for himself, or helping to escalate a bloodbath between a hunter and a group of leopards because of his own warped sense ofmorality.
** It could be argued that the viewer is not meant to side with Kimba / Leo during the times he abuses his son, as he is reprimanded on-screen by his wife and friends immediately after, who callmorality. The show does have him "[[HumansAreBastards a human being]]" for acting get called out by people on this, but it still treats him like that. A lot of the 1966 series is about Leo's development as a father, and for that to happen, the viewer must also witness him committing mistakes. Also, the leopards in that episode clearly state they clawed a child's eyes and left him blind for life, right before they also try to kill Leo for feeling empathy for a human being. The leopards are clearly not the good guys of the episode father who just needs to learn more, and Leo's motivation for helping the blind man is more rooted in the fact they are homicidal jerks. In the original manga, the blind man lives, but the ending was changed in the anime possibly for glorifying revenge, no matter how justified.much there are some justifications, Kimba / Leo comes across as hard to feel justified as a character.
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** People who have watched [=YourMovieSucks=]' documentary claiming to debunk
* CrossesTheLineTwice: In several series, Kimba preserves his father's hide in his home. Unfortunately, the "hide" looks more like a corpse, so most interactions with it come off as BlackComedy - this can range from it being cleaned, [[NemeanSkinning worn]], used as a hiding spot and even as a ''chair''. One episode goes even further and has an ''[[UpToEleven entire
* DesignatedHero: Kimba / Leo does some very unheroic and appalling things in the 1966 series that the audience is meant to side with him on because he's the main character - like abusing his newborn son and abandoning him in the jungle to fend for himself, or helping to escalate a bloodbath between a hunter and a group of leopards because of his own warped sense of
** It could be argued that the viewer is not meant to side with Kimba / Leo during the times he abuses his son, as he is reprimanded on-screen by his wife and friends immediately after, who call
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** This line from a gorilla, made even more hilarious by the voice acting.
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** This line from a gorilla, made even more hilarious by the voice acting. Oh, and if you watch closely, she didn't even ''[[OffModel bite his toe.]]''
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: There was much controversy over whether the Disney film ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' is a ripoff of ''Kimba'' or not, which has since [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW6W2sa0Ihs&list=PLEkZLd7rtcBIEzmkA5jQgUflbu0WRRkA5&index=2& been debunked]]. There are only slight surface similarities in a few character designs, some visuals and setting - the story of ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' is more about accepting responsibility - Kimba is more about using authority wisely, and Kimba also deals with [[HumansAreBastards greedy]] or [[HumansAreFlawed unaware]] humans messing things up for the animals.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: There was much controversy over whether the Disney film ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' is a ripoff of ''Kimba'' or not, which has since [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW6W2sa0Ihs&list=PLEkZLd7rtcBIEzmkA5jQgUflbu0WRRkA5&index=2& [[https://youtu.be/GrZTdOwygPs not been debunked]]. There are only slight surface similarities debunked but in a few character designs, some visuals and setting - the story of ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' fact there is more about accepting responsibility - Kimba is more about using authority wisely, and Kimba also deals with [[HumansAreBastards greedy]] or [[HumansAreFlawed unaware]] humans messing things up for the animals.evidence that Disney did in fact rip it off]].
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* MemeticMutation:
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMptlNNBiKg SING A HUMAN SONG!]]" [[note]]The English translation of "A-I-U-E-O Mambo" in episode 3[[/note]]
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmf7qYnhlLA Wa wa wa wa wa wa waaaaa]]" [[note]]The Jungle Chorus from episode 13, which was used in the ''WebVideo/YourmoviesucksDOTorg'' video on Kimba.[[/note]]
** X copied Kimba! [[note]]A parody of the claim that Disney copied Kimba based on superficial similarities. Common claims are how real life ripped off Kimba for having animals.[[/note]]
** "I’m being bullied because I’m white![[note]]Said by YMMV/YourmoviesucksDOTorg referencing episode 14 when Kimba is picked on by other lions for having white fur.[[/note]]
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg-cV9t3Zhc "Oh you bit me. Oh you bit my toe. Oh my poor toe. That's not fair."]].
** "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated."[[note]]A line Kimba says in the infamous "elephant genocide" episode after all the elephants are killed by hunters in tanks despite Kimba trying to warn them beforehand.[[/note]]
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMptlNNBiKg SING A HUMAN SONG!]]" [[note]]The English translation of "A-I-U-E-O Mambo" in episode 3[[/note]]
** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmf7qYnhlLA Wa wa wa wa wa wa waaaaa]]" [[note]]The Jungle Chorus from episode 13, which was used in the ''WebVideo/YourmoviesucksDOTorg'' video on Kimba.[[/note]]
** X copied Kimba! [[note]]A parody of the claim that Disney copied Kimba based on superficial similarities. Common claims are how real life ripped off Kimba for having animals.[[/note]]
** "I’m being bullied because I’m white![[note]]Said by YMMV/YourmoviesucksDOTorg referencing episode 14 when Kimba is picked on by other lions for having white fur.[[/note]]
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg-cV9t3Zhc "Oh you bit me. Oh you bit my toe. Oh my poor toe. That's not fair."]].
** "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated."[[note]]A line Kimba says in the infamous "elephant genocide" episode after all the elephants are killed by hunters in tanks despite Kimba trying to warn them beforehand.[[/note]]
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** Kimba has a very strange, kind of creepy and sad obsession with his deceased father's hide. He talks to it, ''wears'' it, ''crawls inside'' it, sits on it, etc... There is one episode that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5B1mIfQuo4&t=46m5s establishes]] that this is some weird family tradition; his father also did this with his father, and so on and so on, for at least hundreds of generations. At one point, they even have to save the hundreds of pelts of Kimba's ancestors.
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* MemeticMutation: There's a [[https://old.reddit.com/r/KimbaMemes/ subreddit]] dedicated to Kimba memes.
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* MemeticMutation: There's a [[https://old.reddit.com/r/KimbaMemes/ subreddit]] dedicated to Kimba memes.MemeticMutation:
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** People who have watched [=YourMovieSucks=]' documentary debunking the plagiarism claim have also started to spread their fair share of misinformation, claiming it is a "racist, colonialist, morally backwards" show and generally painting it in a negative light, [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch despite not having watched it themselves]]. For example, people often claim that "Kimba has an episode in which he supports elephant genocide", despite the fact that ''Kimba actually spends the whole episode trying to save said elephants''. The confusion may have stemmed from Kimba's infamous "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated" line, which comes across as UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming to some.
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** People who have watched [=YourMovieSucks=]' documentary debunking claiming to debunk (but does not) the plagiarism claim have also started to spread their fair share of misinformation, claiming it is a "racist, colonialist, morally backwards" show and generally painting it in a negative light, [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch despite not having watched it themselves]]. For example, people often claim that "Kimba has an episode in which he supports elephant genocide", despite the fact that ''Kimba actually spends the whole episode trying to save said elephants''. The confusion may have stemmed from Kimba's infamous "Why couldn't all the elephants be nice like Peewee? Then they wouldn't have had to be exterminated" line, which comes across as UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming to some.
