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** Poor, poor Snowene/Eliza. First she watches her mate die right in front of her, after being captured and used as bait to lure him in. Then she's forced to send her son away, knowing the ship they're on is about to sink in a storm. Then she drowns.
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** To be fair, the "accepting responsibility" angle was imposed on the film relatively late in pre-production via ExecutiveMeddling, and (in some versions of Kimba/Jungle Emperor) Kimba's son Rune had a similar character arc complete with a self-imposed exile ending in [[spoiler: Rune also returning to inherit his kingdom upon his father's death and seeing an apparition of his father in the clouds]]. And if you take the first part of Kimba, includes that element as well as removing the humans to focus entirely on the RightfulKingReturns part of the plot; do the necessary changes this, and compressing it into a 88 min. movie, would require (like merging the flamboyant, [[spoiler: ex-Nazi]], father-killing Hamegg/Viper, who sent the main character into exile and [[spoiler: was defeated and forgiven by him just to end up mauled by another villain]], with the dark-furred, black-maned, tyrannical usurper Bubu/Claw, who has a group of Hyena comic-relief henchmen and a scar over his left eye, into Scar, and giving Kenichi/Roger and his uncle's roles to the comedic animal sidekicks, creating Timon and Pumbaa) what you end with would be pretty close to the Lion King.
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** To be fair, the "accepting responsibility" angle was imposed on the film relatively late in pre-production via ExecutiveMeddling, and (in some versions of Kimba/Jungle Emperor) Kimba's son Rune had a similar character arc complete with a self-imposed exile ending in [[spoiler: Rune also returning to inherit his kingdom upon his father's death and seeing an apparition of his father in the clouds]]. And if you take the first part of Kimba, includes include that element as well as removing the humans to focus entirely on the RightfulKingReturns part of the plot; do the necessary changes this, and that compressing it into a 88 min. movie, movie would require (like merging the flamboyant, [[spoiler: ex-Nazi]], father-killing Hamegg/Viper, who sent the main character into exile and [[spoiler: was defeated and forgiven by him just to end up mauled by another villain]], with the dark-furred, black-maned, tyrannical usurper Bubu/Claw, who has a group of Hyena comic-relief henchmen and a scar over his left eye, into Scar, and giving Kenichi/Roger and his uncle's roles to the comedic animal sidekicks, creating Timon and Pumbaa) and what you you'd end with would be pretty close to the Lion King.
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* AbusiveParents: Kimba/Leo in the sequel series, at least where Rune is concerned. Leo pushes him hard and routinely shames his efforts -- eventually abandoning him in the cliffs far from home and forcing him to make it back himself.
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*** And THAT has lead to fans of ''The Lion King'' hating ''Kimba'' because of ''Kimba'''s FanDumb. It's the circle of [[FandomRivalry haaaaaaaaaaate]]!
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* FanDumb: The [[VocalMinority rabid segment]] of the fandom who [[{{Hatedom}} hates]] ''Disney/TheLionKing'' for [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks ripping off Kimba]] is far more successful at driving people away from Kimba than they are at winning them over. It doesn't help that TLK and Kimba have different narratives.
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** To be fair, the "accepting responsibility" angle was imposed on the film relatively late in pre-production via ExecutiveMeddling, and (in some versions of Kimba/Jungle Emperor) Kimba's son Rune had a similar character arc complete with a self-imposed exile ending in [[spoiler: Rune also returning to inherit his kingdom upon his father's death and seeing an apparition of his father in the clouds]]. And if you take take the first part of Kimba, includes that element as well as removing the humans to focus entirely on the RightfulKingReturns part of the plot; do the necessary changes this, and compressing it into a 88 min. movie, would require (like merging the flamboyant, [[spoiler: ex-Nazi]], father-killing Hamegg/Viper, who sent the main character into exile and [[spoiler: was defeated and forgiven by him just to end up mauled by another villain]], with the dark-furred, black-maned, tyrannical usurper Bubu/Claw, who has a group of Hyena comic-relief henchmen and a scar over his left eye, into Scar, and giving Kenichi/Roger and his uncle's roles to the comedic animal sidekicks, creating Timon and Pumbaa) what you end with would be pretty close to the Lion King.
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** To be fair, the "accepting responsibility" angle was imposed on the film relatively late in pre-production via ExecutiveMeddling, and (in some versions of Kimba/Jungle Emperor) Kimba's son Rune had a similar character arc complete with a self-imposed exile ending in [[spoiler: Rune also returning to inherit his kingdom upon his father's death and seeing an apparition of his father in the clouds]]. And if you take first part of Kimba, includes that element as well as removing the humans to focus entirely on the RightfulKingReturns part of the plot; do the necessary changes this, and compressing it into a 88 min. movie, would require (like merging the flamboyant, [[spoiler: ex-Nazi]], father-killing Hamegg/Viper, who sent the main character into exile and [[spoiler: was defeated and forgiven by him just to end up mauled by another villain]], with the dark-furred, black-maned, tyrannical usurper Bubu/Claw, who has a group of Hyena comic-relief henchmen and a scar over his left eye, into Scar, and giving Kenichi/Roger and his uncle's roles to the comedic animal sidekicks, creating Timon and Pumbaa) what you end with would be pretty close to the Lion King.
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** To be fair, the "accepting responsibility" angle was imposed on the film relatively late in pre-production via ExecutiveMeddling, and (in some versions of Kimba/Jungle Emperor) Kimba's son Rune had a similar character arc complete with a self-imposed exile ending in [[spoiler: Rune also returning to inherit his kingdom upon his father's death and seeing an apparition of his father in the clouds]]. And if you take take first part of Kimba, includes that element as well as removing the humans to focus entirely on the RightfulKingReturns part of the plot; do the necessary changes this, and compressing it into a 88 min. movie, would require (like merging the flamboyant, [[spoiler: ex-Nazi]], father-killing Hamegg/Viper, who sent the main character into exile and [[spoiler: was defeated and forgiven by him just to end up mauled by another villain]], with the dark-furred, black-maned, tyrannical usurper Bubu/Claw, who has a group of Hyena comic-relief henchmen and a scar over his left eye, into Scar, and giving Kenichi/Roger and his uncle's roles to the comedic animal sidekicks, creating Timon and Pumbaa) what you end with would be pretty close to the Lion King.
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** To be fair, the "accepting responsibility" angle was imposed on the film relatively late in pre-production via ExecutiveMeddling, and (in some versions of Kimba/Jungle Emperor) Kimba's son Rune had a similar character arc complete with a self-imposed exile ending in [[spoiler: Rune also returning to inherit his kingdom upon his father's death and seeing an apparition of his father in the clouds]]. And if you take first part of Kimba, includes that element as well as removing the humans to focus entirely on the RightfulKingReturns part of the plot; do the necessary changes this, and compressing it into a 88 min. movie, would require (like merging the flamboyant, [[spoiler: ex-Nazi]], father-killing Hamegg/Viper, who sent the main character into exile and [[spoiler: was defeated and forgiven by him just to end up mauled by another villain]], with the dark-furred, black-maned, tyrannical usurper Bubu/Claw, who has a group of Hyena comic-relief henchmen and a scar over his left eye, into Scar, and giving Kenichi/Roger and his uncle's roles to the comedic animal sidekicks, creating Timon and Pumbaa) what you end with would be pretty close to the Lion King.
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(If the person who wrote this actually bothered to watch/read all four things, they\'d probably come to the conclusion that) TLK doesn\'t resemble Hamlet and Bambi (except the villains of TLK and Hamlet being the main character\'s uncle) in any way it doesn\'t also (and usually closer) resemble Kimba.
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* FanDumb: The [[VocalMinority rabid segment]] of the fandom who [[{{Hatedom}} hates]] ''Disney/TheLionKing'' for [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks ripping off Kimba]] is far more successful at driving people away from Kimba than they are at winning them over. It doesn't help that TLK and Kimba have different narratives, and that if they actually bothered to watch TLK, they'd probably come to the conclusion that it's a [[CompositeCharacter Composite Story]] of Kimba, ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'', and ''{{Hamlet}}''.narratives.
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* FanDumb: The [[VocalMinority rabid segment]] of the fandom who [[{{Hatedom}} hates]] ''TheLionKing'' ''Disney/TheLionKing'' for [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks ripping off Kimba]] is far more successful at driving people away from Kimba than they are at winning them over. It doesn't help that TLK and Kimba have entirely different narratives, and that if they actually bothered to watch TLK, they'd probably come to the conclusion that it's a [[CompositeCharacter Composite Story]] of Kimba, ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'', and ''{{Hamlet}}''.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: There is much controversy over whether the 1994 Disney film ''TheLionKing'' is a ripoff of ''Kimba'' or not.
** The main similarities are the character designs and setting - the story of ''TheLionKing'' is more about accepting responsibility - Kimba is more about using authority wisely, and Kimba also deals with [[HumansAreBastards greedy]] or [[HumansAreFlawed unaware]] humans messing things up for the animals.
** The main similarities are the character designs and setting - the story of ''TheLionKing'' is more about accepting responsibility - Kimba is more about using authority wisely, and Kimba also deals with [[HumansAreBastards greedy]] or [[HumansAreFlawed unaware]] humans messing things up for the animals.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: There is much controversy over whether the 1994 Disney film ''TheLionKing'' ''Disney/TheLionKing'' is a ripoff of ''Kimba'' or not.
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** The main similarities are the character designs and setting - the story of
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* {{Accidental Innuendo}}: The show is full of them. Seriously, if you watch the series on YouTube and read the comments, half of them are about something involving sex.
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* BrokenBase: So, is the 1989 series unnecessary and destroys everything the original series stood for, or is more realistic and better than the original series?
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* BrokenBase: So, is the 1989 series unnecessary and destroys everything the original series stood for, or is more realistic and better than the original series? series?
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** It's also a good idea to not mention TheLionKing.''TheLionKing''.
*** And THAT has lead to fans of ''The Lion King'' hating ''Kimba'' because of ''Kimba'''s FanDumb. It's the circle of [[FandomRivalry haaaaaaaaaaate]]!
*** And THAT has lead to fans of ''The Lion King'' hating ''Kimba'' because of ''Kimba'''s FanDumb. It's the circle of [[FandomRivalry haaaaaaaaaaate]]!
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** It's also a good idea to not mention TheLionKing.
** It's also a good idea to not mention TheLionKing.
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* HypeBacklash: So, is the 1989 series unnecessary and destroys everything the original series stood for, or is more realistic and better than the original series?
** It's also a good idea to not mention The Lion King.
** It's also a good idea to not mention The Lion King.
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* HypeBacklash: So, is the 1989 series unnecessary and destroys everything the original series stood for, or is more realistic and better than the original series?
** It's also a good idea to not mention The Lion King.
** It's also a good idea to not mention The Lion King.
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* FanDumb: The [[VocalMinority rabid segment]] of the fandom who [[{{Hatedom}} hates]] ''TheLionKing'' for [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks ripping off Kimba]] is far more successful at driving people away from Kimba than they are at winning them over. It doesn't help that TLK and Kimba have entirely different narratives, and that if they actually bothered to watch TLK, they'd probably come to the conclusion that it's a [[CompositeCharacter Composite Story]] of Kimba, ''{{Bambi}}'', and ''{{Hamlet}}''.
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* FanDumb: The [[VocalMinority rabid segment]] of the fandom who [[{{Hatedom}} hates]] ''TheLionKing'' for [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks ripping off Kimba]] is far more successful at driving people away from Kimba than they are at winning them over. It doesn't help that TLK and Kimba have entirely different narratives, and that if they actually bothered to watch TLK, they'd probably come to the conclusion that it's a [[CompositeCharacter Composite Story]] of Kimba, ''{{Bambi}}'', ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'', and ''{{Hamlet}}''.
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** When I rewatched the series, I always thought that in the episode 'The Wild Wildcat', Wiley Wildcat raped Kitty. So whenever someone said that he 'hurt' Kitty, I just laughed so hard!
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* FanDumb: The [[VocalMinority rabid segment]] of the fandom who [[{{Hatedom}} hates]] ''TheLionKing'' for [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks ripping off Kimba]] is far more successful at driving people away from Kimba than they are at winning them over. It doesn't help that TLK and Kimba have entirely different narratives, and that if they actually bothered to watch TLK, they'd probably come to the conclusion that it's a [[CompositeCharacter Composite Story]] of Kimba, ''{{Bambi}}'', and ''{{Hamlet}}''.
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** The main similarities are the character designs and setting - the story of ''TheLionKing'' is more about accepting responsibility - Kimba is more about using authority wisely, and Kimba also deals with [[HumansAreBastards greedy]] or [[HumansAreFlawed unaware]] humans messing things up for the animals.
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* {{TearJerker}}: See Tesuka's [[TearJerker/OsamuTezuka page]].
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* TheWoobie: Leo in the 2009 special embodies this trope to begin with. He hasn't yet learned to hunt properly, and even the *prey* laughs at his pathetic attempts. Considering the original Kimba/Leo swam the seas to get back home and learned early on to get tough, this cute-but-less-confident Leo comes as a bit of a surprise to fans.
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* TheWoobie: Leo in the 2009 special embodies this trope to begin with. trope. He hasn't yet learned to hunt properly, and even the *prey* laughs at his pathetic attempts. Considering the original Kimba/Leo swam the seas to get back home and learned early on to get tough, this cute-but-less-confident Leo comes as a bit of a surprise to fans.
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* TheWoobie: Leo embodies this trope to begin with. He hasn't yet learned to hunt properly, and even the *prey* laughs at his pathetic attempts. Considering the original Kimba/Leo swam the seas to get back home and learned early on to get tough, this cute-but-less-confident Leo comes as a bit of a surprise to fans.
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* TheWoobie: Leo in the 2009 special embodies this trope to begin with. He hasn't yet learned to hunt properly, and even the *prey* laughs at his pathetic attempts. Considering the original Kimba/Leo swam the seas to get back home and learned early on to get tough, this cute-but-less-confident Leo comes as a bit of a surprise to fans.
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* MemeticMolester: Claw has became this ever since the episode ''Battle at Dead River'' where he tries to marry Kitty. And then there's the exchange they have when they first meet:
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* MemeticMolester: Claw has became this ever since after the episode ''Battle at Dead River'' where he tries tried to marry Kitty. And then there's the exchange they have when they first meet:
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* MemeticMolester: Claw has became this ever since the episode ''Battle at Dead River'' where he tries to marry Kitty. And then there's the exchange they have when they first meet:
-->'''Claw''': Well, Well, I'm Claw.
-->'''Kitty''': Are... Are you talking to me?
-->'''Claw''': (salivating at the mouth) That's right; you're a pretty young thing aren't you? I like you. How you'd like to be my queen when you get a little bit older?
-->'''Kitty''': Your queen?
-->'''Claw''': Yes.
-->'''Kitty''': I don't think so, but it was very nice of you to ask.
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-->'''Claw''': Well, Well, I'm Claw.
-->'''Kitty''': Are... Are you talking to me?
-->'''Claw''': (salivating at the mouth) That's right; you're a pretty young thing aren't you? I like you. How you'd like to be my queen when you get a little bit older?
-->'''Kitty''': Your queen?
-->'''Claw''': Yes.
-->'''Kitty''': I don't think so, but it was very nice of you to ask.
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* TheWoobie: Leo embodies this trope to begin with. He hasn't yet learned to hunt properly, and even the *prey* laughs at his pathetic attempts. Considering the original Kimba/Leo swam the seas to get back home and learned early on to get tough, this cute-but-less-confident Leo comes as a bit of a surprise to fans.
* {{Woolseyism}}: The dub actors weren't given the episodes in order and were forced to write their own scripts. While this brought up some issues later on involving Kimba's past, they really tried to make the best possible show they could.
** Unfortunately, [[{{Macekre}} the 90's redub wasn't so lucky]]. It's worth noting that the original 60's dub sells for about $110 in boxset form, while the 90's redub is a staple in most dollar stores.
*** While fans will admit the 90's redub sticks closer to the Japanese Script generally, they disliked that the dub removed the original background music and non-dubbed voices. There's also a feeling that the original dub cast overall gave a better performance of the characters and that despite some confusion and censorship still retains much of the intended spirit of the show.
* {{Woolseyism}}: The dub actors weren't given the episodes in order and were forced to write their own scripts. While this brought up some issues later on involving Kimba's past, they really tried to make the best possible show they could.
** Unfortunately, [[{{Macekre}} the 90's redub wasn't so lucky]]. It's worth noting that the original 60's dub sells for about $110 in boxset form, while the 90's redub is a staple in most dollar stores.
*** While fans will admit the 90's redub sticks closer to the Japanese Script generally, they disliked that the dub removed the original background music and non-dubbed voices. There's also a feeling that the original dub cast overall gave a better performance of the characters and that despite some confusion and censorship still retains much of the intended spirit of the show.
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* IronWoobie: Kimba. Both of his parents managed to die in the first episode when he was still a young cub...and yet he still manages to forge ahead and create a peaceful utopia.
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* EarWorm: The [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOgnzMvlTk8 theme song]] from the 1989 dub of the original series.