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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The hosts all believe that the villain of ''{{Film/Skyfall}}'', who has very clear parallels to the Bond of ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' - he was a favored agent of M's, he was captured and M made no effort to retrieve him, he was expected to kill himself and ''tried'' - should have been played by Piers Brosnan. And also not just dove off into being evil, but that's a complaint they often have about villains who raise good points which are not addressed.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The hosts all believe that the villain of ''{{Film/Skyfall}}'', who has very clear parallels to the Bond of ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' - he was a favored agent of M's, he was captured and M made no effort to retrieve him, he was expected to kill himself and ''tried'' - should have been played by Piers Pierce Brosnan. And also not just dove jumped off into being evil, but that's a complaint they often have about villains who raise good points which are not addressed.

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* {{Narm}}: In ''Patriot Games'', Harrison Ford's grave, anguished "They had to take out her ''spleen''" was very funny to November.
* NarmCharm: In contrast, Abi felt the heartbreak of the scene and said that as someone with young relatives she understood how upsetting it would be to have one of them hurt in that way, leading November to quip "Maybe there's just something wrong with me."
* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: In the bonus episode on ''Film/OSS117CairoNestOfSpies'', Abi mentions a terrible Francophile ex and her lingering sense of unease at hearing a lot of spoken French which initially gave her trouble starting the film, but also that actually watching a French film that made her laugh helped banish that unease and create new memories.


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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: In the bonus episode on ''Film/OSS117CairoNestOfSpies'', Abi mentions a terrible Francophile ex and her lingering sense of unease at hearing a lot of spoken French which initially gave her trouble starting the film, but also that actually watching a French film that made her laugh helped banish that unease and create new memories.
* {{Narm}}: In ''Patriot Games'', Harrison Ford's grave, anguished "They had to take out her ''spleen''" was very funny to November.
* NarmCharm: In contrast, Abi felt the heartbreak of the scene and said that as someone with young relatives she understood how upsetting it would be to have one of them hurt in that way, leading November to quip "Maybe there's just something wrong with me."

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* DesignatedHero: The hosts love to point out when Bond, or any other protagonist, is quite unheroic or performing criminal acts (such as shoving a child off a boat). Special mention goes to Inspector Fan Sing-Ling of ''Film/TheManFromHongKong'', who brings a violence and intensity that would be appropriate to stopping a world-ending threat to a movie where the villain's entire plan is "sell heroin", and who kills a ''lot'' of people in the process.



* DesignatedHero: The hosts love to point out when Bond, or any other protagonist, is quite unheroic or performing criminal acts (such as shoving a child off a boat). Special mention goes to Inspector Fan Sing-Ling of ''Film/TheManFromHongKong'', who brings a violence and intensity that would be appropriate to stopping a world-ending threat to a movie where the villain's entire plan is "sell heroin", and who kills a ''lot'' of people in the process.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: Frequently the three enjoy the first installment of a movie series but find its sequels execrable. They genuinely liked ''The Bourne Identity'', felt the first ''Austin Powers'' at least had some good moments, and they were divided on ''First Blood'' but despised the sequels.

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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Derogatively. The hosts all adore ''Zardoz'' and are very impressed with Sean Connery's acting in it, finding it quite nuanced and lamenting that he hadn't brought anything on this level to the Bond films.

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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Derogatively.
** ''Cop Land'' had a Sylvester Stallone playing a flawed, sympathetic TokenGoodCop who'd destroyed his own dreams in helping someone else. Unlike Abigail, November hadn't thought Stallone was acting well in ''First Blood'' and actually believed he couldn't act at all. Seeing his Freddy made her and Devon all the more frustrated by his acting in the Rambo sequels.
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The hosts all adore ''Zardoz'' and are very impressed with Sean Connery's acting in it, finding it quite nuanced and lamenting that he hadn't brought anything on this level to the Bond films.
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* TransAudienceInterpretation: The hosts are always on the lookout for trans interpretations and point these out. Usually it's a joke - every medication is estradiol for instance - but not always.

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* TransAudienceInterpretation: The hosts are always on the lookout for trans interpretations and point these out. Usually it's out, generally as a joke - every medication joke. All medicines are estradiol, all MagicPlasticSurgery is estradiol for instance - but not always.facial feminization surgery, any therapist asks "Do you imagine yourself as [blank] when you masturbate?", etc. One RunningGag is that all films are either about being transgender, or about 9/11.
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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Derogatively. The hosts all adore ''Zardoz'' and are very impressed with Sean Connery's acting in it, finding it quite nuanced and lamenting that he hadn't brought anything on this level to the Bond films.
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* {{Narm}}: In ''Patriot Games'', Harrison Ford's grave, anguished "They had to take out her ''spleen''" was very funny to November.
* NarmCharm: In contrast, Abi felt the heartbreak of the scene and said that as someone with young relatives she understood how upsetting it would be to have one of them hurt in that way, leading November to quip "Maybe there's just something wrong with me."
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* BrokenBase: While the hosts often have minor disagreements the episode on '' Film/FirstBlood'' had an unsually intense argument between Alice and Abigail regarding Rambo and Sylvester Stallone' s performance. Alice highlighted the politics of the movie (which she strongly disagreed with) and found Stallone awful. Abigail, though conceding the political argument found Stallone's performance and characterisation of Rambo very powerful and impressive.

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* BrokenBase: While the hosts often have minor disagreements the episode on '' Film/FirstBlood'' had an unsually intense argument between Alice November and Abigail regarding Rambo and Sylvester Stallone' s performance. Alice November highlighted the politics of the movie (which she strongly disagreed with) and found Stallone awful. Abigail, though conceding the political argument found Stallone's performance and characterisation of Rambo very powerful and impressive.



** The episode on "A Queen's Ransom" begins with Alice requesting that the listeners put the hosts' positive comments about actor George Lazenby in the proper historical context of "us recording this several days ago," due to Lazenby making homophobic and misogynistic comments (otherwise refered to as him having "Said Some Shit") during a live interview literally the day after the episode was recorded. This incident also lead Alice to jokingly(?) announce "the institution of a new format" known as [[DoesNotLikeMen The Misandry Hour]], which "starts now and does not end."
--->'''Alice:''' The lesson I would draw from this is to "Trust no Bond," and especially to trust no male actor working in the '60s. We apologize in advance for all of the nice things that we said about a man who we believed--falsely, it seems--to be basically okay. We hope you're still able to enjoy the episode, and thank you for your patience.

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** The episode on "A Queen's Ransom" begins with Alice November requesting that the listeners put the hosts' positive comments about actor George Lazenby in the proper historical context of "us recording this several days ago," due to Lazenby making homophobic and misogynistic comments (otherwise refered to as him having "Said Some Shit") during a live interview literally the day after the episode was recorded. This incident also lead Alice November to jokingly(?) announce "the institution of a new format" known as [[DoesNotLikeMen The Misandry Hour]], which "starts now and does not end."
--->'''Alice:''' --->'''November:''' The lesson I would draw from this is to "Trust no Bond," and especially to trust no male actor working in the '60s. We apologize in advance for all of the nice things that we said about a man who we believed--falsely, it seems--to be basically okay. We hope you're still able to enjoy the episode, and thank you for your patience.



** A bit in one episode where Abigail complains about Alice's partner Sophie From Mars[[note]]her name was bleeped in the episode but she owned up to it on twitter[[/note]] vaping in her house, and Alice insists that "she's not my girlfriend, she just puts cigarettes out on me" was recorded a few weeks before Alice publically cut ties with Sophie for various consent violations including one that gave her cigarette burns.

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** A bit in one episode where Abigail complains about Alice's November's partner Sophie From Mars[[note]]her name was bleeped in the episode but she owned up to it on twitter[[/note]] vaping in her house, and Alice November insists that "she's not my girlfriend, she just puts cigarettes out on me" was recorded a few weeks before Alice publically November publicly cut ties with Sophie for various consent violations including one that gave her cigarette burns.
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* TransAudienceInterpretation: The hosts are always on the lookout for trans interpretations and point these out. Often it's a joke, but not always.

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* TransAudienceInterpretation: The hosts are always on the lookout for trans interpretations and point these out. Often Usually it's a joke, joke - every medication is estradiol for instance - but not always.
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* BrokenBase: while the hosts often have minor disagreements the episode on '' Film/FirstBlood'' had an unsually intense argument between Alice and Abigail regarding Rambo and Sylvester Stallone' s performance. Alice highlighted the politics of the movie (which she strongly disagreed with) and found Stallone awful. Abigail, though conceding the political argument found Stallone's performance and characterisation of Rambo very powerful and impressive.

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* BrokenBase: while While the hosts often have minor disagreements the episode on '' Film/FirstBlood'' had an unsually intense argument between Alice and Abigail regarding Rambo and Sylvester Stallone' s performance. Alice highlighted the politics of the movie (which she strongly disagreed with) and found Stallone awful. Abigail, though conceding the political argument found Stallone's performance and characterisation of Rambo very powerful and impressive.
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** A bit in one episode where Abigail complains about Alice's partner Sophie From Mars[[note]]her name was bleeped in the episode but she owned up to it on twitter[[/note]] vaping in her house, and Alice insists that "she's not my girlfriend, she just puts cigarettes out on me" was recorded a few weeks before Alice publically cut ties with Sophie for various consent violations including one that gave her cigarette burns.
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** The hosts all loved the first Bourne movie and found it genuinely good and compelling even if it was also great fodder for riffing. Jason Bourne's vulnerability and revulsion towards his old life conflicted with the movie's framing of said old life as being Really Cool but it still ended with him walking away. Unfortunately, there were sequels.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The hosts all believe that the villain of ''{{Film/Skyfall}}'', who has very clear parallels to the Bond of ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' - he was a favored agent of M's, he was captured and M made no effort to retrieve him, he was expected to kill himself and ''tried'' - should have been played by Piers Brosnan. And also not just dove off into being evil, but that's a complaint they often have about villains who raise good points which are not addressed.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: That the StatusQuoIsGod for the Bond franchise - and therefore continuity is limited and Bond can't meaningfully change or gain or lose anything, so the impact of various major events is lessened and limited - is the cause of a great deal of frustration.
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* TransAudienceInterpretation: The hosts are always on the lookout for trans interpretations and point these out. Often it's a joke, but not always.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Abi was delighted at the effort that Creator/RonPerlman put into ''Film/TheNameOfTheRose'' - he wasn't given much of a script, so to play a character who spoke erratically in several languages, he got copies of ''Literature/TheNameOfTheRose'' in several languages and pieced together his own dialogue. Even if the movie is bad, Abi says, putting that kind of work in can make an actor shine and stand out, and hopefully get cast elsewhere.

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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Abi was delighted at the effort that Creator/RonPerlman put into the film ''Film/TheNameOfTheRose'' - he wasn't given much of a script, so to play a character who spoke erratically in several languages, he got copies of the book ''Literature/TheNameOfTheRose'' in several languages and pieced together his own dialogue. Even if the movie is bad, Abi says, putting that kind of work in can make an actor shine and stand out, and hopefully get cast elsewhere.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The episode on "A Queen's Ransom" begins with Alice requesting that the listeners put the hosts' positive comments about actor George Lazenby in the proper historical context of "us recording this several days ago," due to Lazenby being homophobic, misogynistic, and otherwise having "Said Some Shit" during a live interview literally the day after the episode was recorded.
-->'''Alice:''' The lesson I would draw from this is to "Trust no Bond," and especially to trust no male actor working in the '60s. We apologize in advance for all of the nice things that we said about a man who we believed--falsely, it seems--to be basically okay. We hope you're still able to enjoy the episode, and thank you for your patience.
** This incident also lead Alice to jokingly(?) announce "the institution of a new format" known as [[DoesNotLikeMen The Misandry Hour]], which "starts now and does not end."

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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The episode on "A Queen's Ransom" begins with Alice requesting that the listeners put the hosts' positive comments about actor George Lazenby in the proper historical context of "us recording this several days ago," due to Lazenby being homophobic, misogynistic, making homophobic and otherwise misogynistic comments (otherwise refered to as him having "Said Some Shit" Shit") during a live interview literally the day after the episode was recorded.
-->'''Alice:'''
recorded. This incident also lead Alice to jokingly(?) announce "the institution of a new format" known as [[DoesNotLikeMen The Misandry Hour]], which "starts now and does not end."
--->'''Alice:'''
The lesson I would draw from this is to "Trust no Bond," and especially to trust no male actor working in the '60s. We apologize in advance for all of the nice things that we said about a man who we believed--falsely, it seems--to be basically okay. We hope you're still able to enjoy the episode, and thank you for your patience.
** This incident also lead Alice to jokingly(?) announce "the institution of a new format" known as [[DoesNotLikeMen The Misandry Hour]], which "starts now and does not end."
patience.
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** The ''Film/NoTimeToDie'' live show includes a bit where the hosts wonder why spy films often have characters drown and/or show their corpses sinking off into water. The episode was recorded two days before the controversial series finale of ''Series/KillingEve'', in which [[spoiler:main character Villanelle dies in exactly this way as a SuddenDownerEnding.]]
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Abi was delighted at the effort that Creator/RonPerlman put into ''Film/TheNameOfTheRose'' - he wasn't given much of a script, so to play a character who spoke erratically in several languages, he got copies of ''Literature/TheNameOfTheRose'' in several languages and pieced together his own dialogue. Even if the movie is bad, Abi says, putting that kind of work in can make an actor shine and stand out, and hopefully get cast elsewhere.

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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: In the bonus episode on ''Film/OSS117CairoNestOfSpies'', Abi mentions a terrible Francophile ex and her lingering sense of unease at hearing a lot of spoken French which initially gave her trouble starting the film, but also that actually watching a French film that made her laugh helped banish that unease and create new memories.


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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: In the bonus episode on ''Film/OSS117CairoNestOfSpies'', Abi mentions a terrible Francophile ex and her lingering sense of unease at hearing a lot of spoken French which initially gave her trouble starting the film, but also that actually watching a French film that made her laugh helped banish that unease and create new memories.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: In the bonus episode on ''Film/OSS117CairoNestOfSpies'', Abi mentions a terrible Francophile ex and her lingering sense of unease at hearing a lot of spoken French which initially gave her trouble starting the film, but also that actually watching a French film that made her laugh helped banish that unease and create new memories.

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* DesignatedHero: The hosts love to point out when Bond, or any other protagonist, is quite unheroic or performing criminal acts. Special mention goes to Inspector Fan Sing-Ling of ''Film/TheManFromHongKong'', who brings a violence and intensity that would be appropriate to stopping a world-ending threat to a movie where the villain's entire plan is "sell heroin", and who kills a ''lot'' of people in the process.

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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Before George Lazenby "Said Some Shit" the hosts were more in favor of him and his Bond than any of the other actors or portrayals, loving the audacity of how he got the role and of leaving after making one film and believing him and his Bond to be kinder and more humane.
* DesignatedHero: The hosts love to point out when Bond, or any other protagonist, is quite unheroic or performing criminal acts.acts (such as shoving a child off a boat). Special mention goes to Inspector Fan Sing-Ling of ''Film/TheManFromHongKong'', who brings a violence and intensity that would be appropriate to stopping a world-ending threat to a movie where the villain's entire plan is "sell heroin", and who kills a ''lot'' of people in the process.

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* BrokenBase: while the hosts often have minor disagreements the episode on '' Film/FirstBlood'' had an unsually intense argument between Alice and Abigail regarding Rambo and Sylvester Stallone' s performance. Alice highlighted the politics of the movie (which she strongly dusagreed with) and found Stallone awful. Abigail, though conceding the political argument found Stallone's performance and characterisation of Rambo very powerful and impressive.

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* BrokenBase: while the hosts often have minor disagreements the episode on '' Film/FirstBlood'' had an unsually intense argument between Alice and Abigail regarding Rambo and Sylvester Stallone' s performance. Alice highlighted the politics of the movie (which she strongly dusagreed disagreed with) and found Stallone awful. Abigail, though conceding the political argument found Stallone's performance and characterisation of Rambo very powerful and impressive.
* DesignatedHero: The hosts love to point out when Bond, or any other protagonist, is quite unheroic or performing criminal acts. Special mention goes to Inspector Fan Sing-Ling of ''Film/TheManFromHongKong'', who brings a violence and intensity that would be appropriate to stopping a world-ending threat to a movie where the villain's entire plan is "sell heroin", and who kills a ''lot'' of people in the process.
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* BrokenBase: while the hosts often have minor disagreements the episode on '' Film/FirstBlood'' had an unsually intense argument between Alice and Abigail regarding Rambo and Sylvester Stallone' s performance. Alice highlighted the politics of the movie (which she strongly dusagreed with) and found Stallone awful. Abigail, though conceding the political argument found Stallone's performance and characterisation of Rambo very powerful and impressive.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The episode on "A Queen's Ransom" begins with Alice requesting that the listeners put the hosts' positive comments about actor George Lazenby in the proper historical context of "us recording this several days ago," due to Lazenby being homophobic, misogynistic, and otherwise having "Said Some Shit" during a live interview literally the day after the episode was recorded.
-->'''Alice:''' The lesson I would draw from this is to "Trust no Bond," and especially to trust no male actor working in the '60s. We apologize in advance for all of the nice things that we said about a man who we believed--falsely, it seems--to be basically okay. We hope you're still able to enjoy the episode, and thank you for your patience.
** This incident also lead Alice to jokingly(?) announce "the institution of a new format" known as [[DoesNotLikeMen The Misandry Hour]], which "starts now and does not end."
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