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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Alfonso Bassave as the deliciously arrogant King Francis I was considered one of the series' highlights and one of the best performances in his career.
* HilariousInHindsight: Mercurino Gattinara received an ironic cast choice in Juanjo Puigcorbé, making it so that a historical philosopher who preached for an universal empire was being played by an actor that at the time was a politician in a Catalonian separatist party. In 2024, after being purged from said party and blacklisted in Catalonia, Puigcorbé repudiated separatism.
* HilariousInHindsight: Mercurino Gattinara received an ironic cast choice in Juanjo Puigcorbé, making it so that a historical philosopher who preached for an universal empire was being played by an actor that at the time was a politician in a Catalonian separatist party. In 2024, after being purged from said party and blacklisted in Catalonia, Puigcorbé repudiated separatism.
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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct:
** Alfonso Bassave as the deliciously arrogant King Francis I was considered one of the series' highlights and one of the best performances in his career.
** Félix Gómez was mostly known for his role in the juvenile TV series ''Al salir de clase'' and period drama ''Series/AmarEnTiemposRevueltos'' until exploding here as the epic Duke of Alba.
* HilariousInHindsight: Mercurino Gattinara seemingly received an ironic cast choice in Juanjo Puigcorbé, making it so that a historical philosopher who preached for an universal empire was being played by an actor that at the time was a politician in a Catalonian separatist party. In 2024, however, after being purged from said party and blacklisted in Catalonia, Puigcorbé repudiated separatism.
** Alfonso Bassave as the deliciously arrogant King Francis I was considered one of the series' highlights and one of the best performances in his career.
** Félix Gómez was mostly known for his role in the juvenile TV series ''Al salir de clase'' and period drama ''Series/AmarEnTiemposRevueltos'' until exploding here as the epic Duke of Alba.
* HilariousInHindsight: Mercurino Gattinara seemingly received an ironic cast choice in Juanjo Puigcorbé, making it so that a historical philosopher who preached for an universal empire was being played by an actor that at the time was a politician in a Catalonian separatist party. In 2024, however, after being purged from said party and blacklisted in Catalonia, Puigcorbé repudiated separatism.
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** Even if it is dramatically divergent from real history, the series' portrayal of UsefulNotes/HernanCortez is well acted and makes a fairly interesting and multi-sided character, but his actor José Luis García Pérez has such a quirky, perpetual tough guy voice that it can be hard not to find his delivery hilarious.
** UsefulNotes/MargaretOfAustria's period headgear is historically accurate and not necessarily the narmiest in the series, but it is surely a strong contender for the title, and the fact that she strangely never ever takes it off (while most other characters with ridiculous hats do often appear without them) only sells it.
** The scenes set in the Mesoamerican jungle are very, very hard to take seriously for how obviously they were shot in the Spanish countryside for budgetary reasons. The "battles" of Pavia and Muhlberg, which suffered from the same money shortage to the point of not featuring more than ten extras in any side, look downright like medieval [=LARPers=] engaging in a drunk brawl after a festival, and can be just as hilarious to watch.
* OneSceneWonder: Franz von Sickingen and his men appearing on Jakob Fugger's orders to surround the electors' hall and force them to elect Charles.
** UsefulNotes/MargaretOfAustria's period headgear is historically accurate and not necessarily the narmiest in the series, but it is surely a strong contender for the title, and the fact that she strangely never ever takes it off (while most other characters with ridiculous hats do often appear without them) only sells it.
** The scenes set in the Mesoamerican jungle are very, very hard to take seriously for how obviously they were shot in the Spanish countryside for budgetary reasons. The "battles" of Pavia and Muhlberg, which suffered from the same money shortage to the point of not featuring more than ten extras in any side, look downright like medieval [=LARPers=] engaging in a drunk brawl after a festival, and can be just as hilarious to watch.
* OneSceneWonder: Franz von Sickingen and his men appearing on Jakob Fugger's orders to surround the electors' hall and force them to elect Charles.
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** Even if it is dramatically divergent from real history, the series' portrayal of UsefulNotes/HernanCortez is well acted and makes a fairly interesting and multi-sided character, but his actor José Luis García Pérez has such a quirky, perpetual tough guy voice that it can be hard not to find his delivery hilarious.
** UsefulNotes/MargaretOfAustria's period headgear is historically accurate and not necessarily the narmiest in the series, but it is surely a strong contender for the title, and the strange fact that shestrangely never ever takes it off (while most other characters with ridiculous hats do often appear without them) only sells it.
** The abysmal budget sometimes makes scenes impossible to take seriously. Pieces set in the Mesoamerican jungleare very, very hard to take seriously for how obviously often show clearly they were shot in the Spanish countryside for budgetary reasons. The countryside, while the "battles" of Pavia and Muhlberg, which suffered from the same money shortage to the point of not featuring more than ten extras in any side, look downright like medieval [=LARPers=] engaging in a drunk brawl after a festival, and can be just as hilarious to watch.
** The decision to have the same actors playing the main cast since their teenage years into old age is not necessarily undefendable, but acting skills and age makeup can only carry you so far. Watching the positively youthful-looking Daniel Pérez trying to act like an old and worn down Montmorency in his seventies is just as absurd as it sounds, and he's not even the worst example.
*OneSceneWonder: NarmCharm: The siege of Metz is not only under-produced, but also hilarious for how seriously it takes himself, featuring Charles, the Duke of Alba and a handful of soldiers randomly dueling in midst of a pretentious ShellShockSilence caused by cannonfire. However, Álvaro Cervantes and Félix Gómez are so absolutely committed to the scene that they make it ''work'', with the Duke of Alba in particular going bananas to save Charles from the French soldiers and retreat from the whole fiasco.
* OneSceneWonder:
** UsefulNotes/FranciscoPizarro gets vibes of a HeroOfAnotherStory (from Castile's point of view, at least) with his mere minutes of screentime.
** Franz von Sickingen and his men appearing on Jakob Fugger's orders to surround the electors' hall and force them to electCharles.Charles.
** UsefulNotes/SuleymanTheMagnificent produces an impression with his sole, lineless scene in the series.
** Blink and you'll miss it, but an extra playing UsefulNotes/GianelloDellaTorre can be spotted in the monastery of Yuste.
** In a darker light, Charles of Austria's short appearances leave a mark on how his child actor nails the character of the disturbed, violent boy prince.
** UsefulNotes/MargaretOfAustria's period headgear is historically accurate and not necessarily the narmiest in the series, but it is surely a strong contender for the title, and the strange fact that she
** The abysmal budget sometimes makes scenes impossible to take seriously. Pieces set in the Mesoamerican jungle
** The decision to have the same actors playing the main cast since their teenage years into old age is not necessarily undefendable, but acting skills and age makeup can only carry you so far. Watching the positively youthful-looking Daniel Pérez trying to act like an old and worn down Montmorency in his seventies is just as absurd as it sounds, and he's not even the worst example.
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* OneSceneWonder:
** UsefulNotes/FranciscoPizarro gets vibes of a HeroOfAnotherStory (from Castile's point of view, at least) with his mere minutes of screentime.
** Franz von Sickingen and his men appearing on Jakob Fugger's orders to surround the electors' hall and force them to elect
** UsefulNotes/SuleymanTheMagnificent produces an impression with his sole, lineless scene in the series.
** Blink and you'll miss it, but an extra playing UsefulNotes/GianelloDellaTorre can be spotted in the monastery of Yuste.
** In a darker light, Charles of Austria's short appearances leave a mark on how his child actor nails the character of the disturbed, violent boy prince.
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** Charles' actor Álvaro Cervantes was considered one of the weakest links of the series, as he was seen as a MrFanservice without any resemblance to the historical figure.
** Marcel Borrás, UsefulNotes/PhilipII's adult actor, does look a bit like his child actor Pablo Arbués, but he otherwise looks absolutely nothing like the historical Philip other than having a big chin.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The series failed at leaving a mark, worsened by the ToughActToFollow that was ''Isabel''. Unlike its previous series, critics saw ''Carlos'' as both over-ambitious and underbudgeted, with a confusing timeline, historical deviations everywhere and an inconsistent cast, and also felt a negligent treatment by RTVE, which would constantly change the slot of the episodes without warning.
** Marcel Borrás, UsefulNotes/PhilipII's adult actor, does look a bit like his child actor Pablo Arbués, but he otherwise looks absolutely nothing like the historical Philip other than having a big chin.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The series failed at leaving a mark, worsened by the ToughActToFollow that was ''Isabel''. Unlike its previous series, critics saw ''Carlos'' as both over-ambitious and underbudgeted, with a confusing timeline, historical deviations everywhere and an inconsistent cast, and also felt a negligent treatment by RTVE, which would constantly change the slot of the episodes without warning.
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** Charles' actor Álvaro Cervantes was considered one of the weakest links of the series, as he was seen as a MrFanservice without any physical resemblance to the historical figure.
figure. Only when playing Charles into middle age he manages to be believable thanks to his darkened beard and acting.
** Marcel Borrás, UsefulNotes/PhilipII's adult actor, does look a bit like his child actor Pablo Arbués, but he otherwise looks absolutely nothing like the historical Philip other than having a bigchin.
chin. This last trait is particularly weird given that Álvaro Cervantes doesn't have a noteworthy chin despite playing another Habsburg that had an even bigger one than Philip II.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The series failed at leaving a mark, worsened by the ToughActToFollow that was ''Isabel''. Unlike its previous series, critics saw ''Carlos'' as both over-ambitious andunderbudgeted, under-budgeted, with a confusing timeline, historical deviations everywhere and an inconsistent cast, casting choices, and also felt a negligent treatment by RTVE, which would constantly change the slot of the episodes without warning.warning.
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Even if some of the leads were though to be miscast, one thing consistently noted is that the series has a stellar cast giving their absolute all, often taking terrible script pages and making them surprisingly watchable.
** Marcel Borrás, UsefulNotes/PhilipII's adult actor, does look a bit like his child actor Pablo Arbués, but he otherwise looks absolutely nothing like the historical Philip other than having a big
* {{Sequelitis}}: The series failed at leaving a mark, worsened by the ToughActToFollow that was ''Isabel''. Unlike its previous series, critics saw ''Carlos'' as both over-ambitious and
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Even if some of the leads were though to be miscast, one thing consistently noted is that the series has a stellar cast giving their absolute all, often taking terrible script pages and making them surprisingly watchable.
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* FirstInstallmentWins: ''Isabel'' is iconic and pretty much "the" costume period drama in Spain; it also made the jump to international platforms like [=DramaFever=], Netflix, and Amazon Prime. ''Carlos: Rey Emperador'' raised much less interest, due to its focus on non-Spanish history like the Protestant Reformation and the Conquest of Mexico. It gained a cult following among history buffs and costume dramas precisely for being the only show with Charles V and his siblings in a protagonist's role, however.
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* FirstInstallmentWins: ''Isabel'' is iconic and pretty much "the" costume period drama in Spain; it also made the jump to international platforms like [=DramaFever=], Netflix, and Amazon Prime. ''Carlos: Rey Emperador'' raised much less interest, due to its focus on non-Spanish history like the Protestant Reformation UsefulNotes/TheProtestantReformation and the Conquest of Mexico. It gained a cult following among history buffs and costume dramas precisely for being the only show with Charles V and his siblings in a protagonist's role, however.UsefulNotes/SpanishConquestOfTheAztecEmpire.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Regadless of the series itself, a lot of viewers found UsefulNotes/TheDukeOfAlba to be quite of a character, especially due to Félix Gómez's performance (a minor meme a la StupidSexyFlanders involved people pointing out how handsome this incarnation of the Duke was too) and his chemistry with Marcel Borrás' UsefulNotes/PhilipII.
* {{Narm}}: The scenes set in the Mesoamerican jungle are very, very hard to take seriously for how obviously they were shot in the Spanish countryside for budgetary reasons. The "battles" of Pavia and Muhlberg, which suffered from the same money shortage to the point of not featuring more than ten extras in any side, look downright like medieval [=LARPers=] engaging in a drunk brawl after a festival, and can be just as hilarious to watch.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The series failed at leaving a mark, worsened by the ToughActToFollow that was ''Isabel''. Unlike its previous series, critics saw ''Carlos'' as both over-ambitious and shoddily made, with painfully low production values, a confusing timeline, historical deviations everywhere and an inconsistent cast, and also felt a negligent treatment by RTVE, which would constantly change the slot of the episodes without warning.
* {{Narm}}: The scenes set in the Mesoamerican jungle are very, very hard to take seriously for how obviously they were shot in the Spanish countryside for budgetary reasons. The "battles" of Pavia and Muhlberg, which suffered from the same money shortage to the point of not featuring more than ten extras in any side, look downright like medieval [=LARPers=] engaging in a drunk brawl after a festival, and can be just as hilarious to watch.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The series failed at leaving a mark, worsened by the ToughActToFollow that was ''Isabel''. Unlike its previous series, critics saw ''Carlos'' as both over-ambitious and shoddily made, with painfully low production values, a confusing timeline, historical deviations everywhere and an inconsistent cast, and also felt a negligent treatment by RTVE, which would constantly change the slot of the episodes without warning.
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* BrokenBase: Many critics and viewers were not impressed, but the series gained a cult following among history buffs and costume dramas precisely for being the only show with UsefulNotes/CharlesV and his siblings in a protagonist's role.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Regadless of the series itself, a lot of viewers found UsefulNotes/TheDukeOfAlba to be quite of acharacter, especially due character thanks to Félix Gómez's dashing performance (a minor meme a la StupidSexyFlanders involved people pointing out how handsome this incarnation of the Duke was too) and his chemistry with Marcel Borrás' UsefulNotes/PhilipII.
Charles and Philip.
*{{Narm}}: SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Alfonso Bassave as the deliciously arrogant King Francis I was considered one of the series' highlights and one of the best performances in his career.
* HilariousInHindsight: Mercurino Gattinara received an ironic cast choice in Juanjo Puigcorbé, making it so that a historical philosopher who preached for an universal empire was being played by an actor that at the time was a politician in a Catalonian separatist party. In 2024, after being purged from said party and blacklisted in Catalonia, Puigcorbé repudiated separatism.
* {{Narm}}:
** Even if it is dramatically divergent from real history, the series' portrayal of UsefulNotes/HernanCortez is well acted and makes a fairly interesting and multi-sided character, but his actor José Luis García Pérez has such a quirky, perpetual tough guy voice that it can be hard not to find his delivery hilarious.
** UsefulNotes/MargaretOfAustria's period headgear is historically accurate and not necessarily the narmiest in the series, but it is surely a strong contender for the title, and the fact that she strangely never ever takes it off (while most other characters with ridiculous hats do often appear without them) only sells it.
** The scenes set in the Mesoamerican jungle are very, very hard to take seriously for how obviously they were shot in the Spanish countryside for budgetary reasons. The "battles" of Pavia and Muhlberg, which suffered from the same money shortage to the point of not featuring more than ten extras in any side, look downright like medieval [=LARPers=] engaging in a drunk brawl after a festival, and can be just as hilarious to watch.
* OneSceneWonder: Franz von Sickingen and his men appearing on Jakob Fugger's orders to surround the electors' hall and force them to elect Charles.
* QuestionableCasting:
** Charles' actor Álvaro Cervantes was considered one of the weakest links of the series, as he was seen as a MrFanservice without any resemblance to the historical figure.
** Marcel Borrás, UsefulNotes/PhilipII's adult actor, does look a bit like his child actor Pablo Arbués, but he otherwise looks absolutely nothing like the historical Philip other than having a big chin.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The series failed at leaving a mark, worsened by the ToughActToFollow that was ''Isabel''. Unlike its previous series, critics saw ''Carlos'' as both over-ambitious andshoddily made, underbudgeted, with painfully low production values, a confusing timeline, historical deviations everywhere and an inconsistent cast, and also felt a negligent treatment by RTVE, which would constantly change the slot of the episodes without warning.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Regadless of the series itself, a lot of viewers found UsefulNotes/TheDukeOfAlba to be quite of a
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* HilariousInHindsight: Mercurino Gattinara received an ironic cast choice in Juanjo Puigcorbé, making it so that a historical philosopher who preached for an universal empire was being played by an actor that at the time was a politician in a Catalonian separatist party. In 2024, after being purged from said party and blacklisted in Catalonia, Puigcorbé repudiated separatism.
* {{Narm}}:
** Even if it is dramatically divergent from real history, the series' portrayal of UsefulNotes/HernanCortez is well acted and makes a fairly interesting and multi-sided character, but his actor José Luis García Pérez has such a quirky, perpetual tough guy voice that it can be hard not to find his delivery hilarious.
** UsefulNotes/MargaretOfAustria's period headgear is historically accurate and not necessarily the narmiest in the series, but it is surely a strong contender for the title, and the fact that she strangely never ever takes it off (while most other characters with ridiculous hats do often appear without them) only sells it.
** The scenes set in the Mesoamerican jungle are very, very hard to take seriously for how obviously they were shot in the Spanish countryside for budgetary reasons. The "battles" of Pavia and Muhlberg, which suffered from the same money shortage to the point of not featuring more than ten extras in any side, look downright like medieval [=LARPers=] engaging in a drunk brawl after a festival, and can be just as hilarious to watch.
* OneSceneWonder: Franz von Sickingen and his men appearing on Jakob Fugger's orders to surround the electors' hall and force them to elect Charles.
* QuestionableCasting:
** Charles' actor Álvaro Cervantes was considered one of the weakest links of the series, as he was seen as a MrFanservice without any resemblance to the historical figure.
** Marcel Borrás, UsefulNotes/PhilipII's adult actor, does look a bit like his child actor Pablo Arbués, but he otherwise looks absolutely nothing like the historical Philip other than having a big chin.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The series failed at leaving a mark, worsened by the ToughActToFollow that was ''Isabel''. Unlike its previous series, critics saw ''Carlos'' as both over-ambitious and
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* FirstInstallmentWins: ''Isabel'' is iconic and pretty much "the" costume period drama in Spain; it also made the jump to international platforms like [=DramaFever=], Netflix, and Amazon Prime. ''Carlos: Rey Emperador'' raised much less interest, due to its focus on non-Spanish history like the Protestant Reformation and the Conquest of Mexico. It gained a cult following among history buffs and costume dramas precisely for being the only show with Charles V and his siblings in a protagonic role, however.
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* FirstInstallmentWins: ''Isabel'' is iconic and pretty much "the" costume period drama in Spain; it also made the jump to international platforms like [=DramaFever=], Netflix, and Amazon Prime. ''Carlos: Rey Emperador'' raised much less interest, due to its focus on non-Spanish history like the Protestant Reformation and the Conquest of Mexico. It gained a cult following among history buffs and costume dramas precisely for being the only show with Charles V and his siblings in a protagonic protagonist's role, however.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Regadless of the series itself, a lot of viewers found the [[UsefulNotes/FernandoAlvarezDeToledoYPimentel Duke of Alba]] to be quite of a character, especially due to Félix Gómez's performance (a minor meme a la StupidSexyFlanders involved people pointing out how handsome this incarnation of the Duke was too) and his chemistry with Marcel Borrás' UsefulNotes/PhilipII.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Regadless of the series itself, a lot of viewers found the [[UsefulNotes/FernandoAlvarezDeToledoYPimentel Duke of Alba]] UsefulNotes/TheDukeOfAlba to be quite of a character, especially due to Félix Gómez's performance (a minor meme a la StupidSexyFlanders involved people pointing out how handsome this incarnation of the Duke was too) and his chemistry with Marcel Borrás' UsefulNotes/PhilipII.
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* {{Narm}}: The scenes set in the Mesoamerican jungle are very, very hard to take seriously for how obviously they were shot in the Spanish countryside by budgetary reasons. The historical "battles" of Pavia and Muhlberg, which suffered from the same money shortage to the point of not featuring more than ten extras in any side, look downright like medieval [=LARPers=] engaging in a drunk brawl after a festival, and can be just as hilarious to watch.
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* {{Narm}}: The scenes set in the Mesoamerican jungle are very, very hard to take seriously for how obviously they were shot in the Spanish countryside by for budgetary reasons. The historical "battles" of Pavia and Muhlberg, which suffered from the same money shortage to the point of not featuring more than ten extras in any side, look downright like medieval [=LARPers=] engaging in a drunk brawl after a festival, and can be just as hilarious to watch.
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** Before release, Olivares joked that people would criticize that the show's Isabel was too blonde [[HistoricalBeautyUpdate and pretty]]. Guess what was the first thing people complained about, often waving a portrait of when [[LogicalFallacies she was pushing 50 and dying of cancer]]. However, the chronicles of the time do describe the young Isabel as "nice-looking" and say that Fernando and her were [[LoveAtFirstSight instantly smitten]] when they met.
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** Before release, Olivares joked that people would criticize that the show's Isabel was too blonde [[HistoricalBeautyUpdate and pretty]]. Guess what was the first thing people complained about, often waving a portrait of when [[LogicalFallacies she was pushing 50 and dying of cancer]].cancer]] as comparison. However, the chronicles of the time do describe the young Isabel as "nice-looking" and say that Fernando and her were [[LoveAtFirstSight instantly smitten]] when they met.
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* AmericansHateTingle: The series attracted [[https://www.diariocritico.com/noticia/487879/opinion/el-rechazo-en-america-de-la-serie-carlos-de-tve.html controversy]] in Latin America for its clumsy portrayal of the UsefulNotes/SpanishConquestOfTheAztecEmpire, especially for excising the role of the natives in Cortés' side.
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* {{Narm}}: The scenes set in the Mesoamerican jungle are very, very hard to take seriously for how obviously they were shot in the Spanish countryside by budgetary reasons. The historical "battles" of Pavia and Muhlberg, which suffered from the same money shortage to the point of not featuring more than ten extras in any side, look downright like medieval [=LARPers=] getting drunk after a festival and can be just as hilarious to watch.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The series failed at leaving a mark, worsened by the ToughActToFollow that was ''Isabel''. Unlike its previous series, critics saw ''Carlos'' as both over-ambitious and shoddily made, with painfully low production values, a confusing timeline and an inconsistent cast, and also felt a negligent treatment by RTVE, which would constantly change the slot of the episodes without warning.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The series failed at leaving a mark, worsened by the ToughActToFollow that was ''Isabel''. Unlike its previous series, critics saw ''Carlos'' as both over-ambitious and shoddily made, with painfully low production values, a confusing timeline and an inconsistent cast, and also felt a negligent treatment by RTVE, which would constantly change the slot of the episodes without warning.
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* {{Narm}}: The scenes set in the Mesoamerican jungle are very, very hard to take seriously for how obviously they were shot in the Spanish countryside by budgetary reasons. The historical "battles" of Pavia and Muhlberg, which suffered from the same money shortage to the point of not featuring more than ten extras in any side, look downright like medieval [=LARPers=] getting engaging in a drunk brawl after a festival festival, and can be just as hilarious to watch.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The series failed at leaving a mark, worsened by the ToughActToFollow that was ''Isabel''. Unlike its previous series, critics saw ''Carlos'' as both over-ambitious and shoddily made, with painfully low production values, a confusingtimeline timeline, historical deviations everywhere and an inconsistent cast, and also felt a negligent treatment by RTVE, which would constantly change the slot of the episodes without warning.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The series failed at leaving a mark, worsened by the ToughActToFollow that was ''Isabel''. Unlike its previous series, critics saw ''Carlos'' as both over-ambitious and shoddily made, with painfully low production values, a confusing
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** Before release, Olivares joked that people would criticize that the show's Isabel was too blonde [[HistoricalBeautyUpdate and pretty]]. Guess what was the first thing people complained about, often waving a portrait of when [[LogicalFallacies she was pushing 50 and dying of cancer]]. The chronicles of the time do describe the young Isabel as "nice-looking" and say that Fernando and her were [[LoveAtFirstSight instantly smitten]] when they met.
** Young Isabel's annoyance because the Queen piece in chess can only move one square at a time is not an oversight either, as that was [[ShownTheirWork indeed the case]] in Medieval Chess. The change that made this piece so powerful was introduced in Spain during the 1490s, [[HistoricalInJoke in apparent homage to Isabel herself]].
** Young Isabel's annoyance because the Queen piece in chess can only move one square at a time is not an oversight either, as that was [[ShownTheirWork indeed the case]] in Medieval Chess. The change that made this piece so powerful was introduced in Spain during the 1490s, [[HistoricalInJoke in apparent homage to Isabel herself]].
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** Before release, Olivares joked that people would criticize that the show's Isabel was too blonde [[HistoricalBeautyUpdate and pretty]]. Guess what was the first thing people complained about, often waving a portrait of when [[LogicalFallacies she was pushing 50 and dying of cancer]]. The However, the chronicles of the time do describe the young Isabel as "nice-looking" and say that Fernando and her were [[LoveAtFirstSight instantly smitten]] when they met.
** Young Isabel's annoyance because the Queen piece in chess can only move one square at a time is not an oversight either, as that was [[ShownTheirWork indeed the case]] in MedievalChess.chess. The change that made this piece so powerful was introduced in Spain during the 1490s, [[HistoricalInJoke in apparent homage to Isabel herself]].
** Young Isabel's annoyance because the Queen piece in chess can only move one square at a time is not an oversight either, as that was [[ShownTheirWork indeed the case]] in Medieval
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Regadless of the series itself, a lot of viewers found the [[UsefulNotes/FernandoAlvarezDeToledoYPimentel Duke of Alba]] to be quite of a character, especially due to Félix Gómez's performance (a minor meme a la StupidSexyFlanders involved people pointing out how handsome this incarnation of the Duke was too) and his chemistry with Marcel Borrás' UsefulNotes/PhilipII.
* {{Narm}}: The scenes set in the Mesoamerican jungle are very, very hard to take seriously for how obviously they were shot in the Spanish countryside by budgetary reasons. The historical "battles" of Pavia and Muhlberg, which suffered from the same money shortage to the point of not featuring more than ten extras in any side, look downright like medieval [=LARPers=] getting drunk after a festival and can be just as hilarious to watch.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The series failed at leaving a mark, worsened by the ToughActToFollow that was ''Isabel''. Unlike its previous series, critics saw ''Carlos'' as both over-ambitious and shoddily made, with painfully low production values, a confusing timeline and an inconsistent cast, and also felt a negligent treatment by RTVE, which would constantly change the slot of the episodes without warning.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Isabel does not wear her [[IconicOutfit iconic white veil]] in the first season, which she adopted either after her marriage, the birth of her first child or even earlier. The second season has her adopting it as a sign of mourning after suffering a miscarriage.
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** Before release, Olivares joked that people would criticize that the show's Isabel was too blonde [[HistoricalBeautyUpdate and pretty]]. Guess what was the first thing people complained about, often waving a portrait of when [[LogicalFallacies she was pushing 50 and dying of cancer]]. The chronicles of the time do describe the young Isabel as "nice-looking" and say that Fernando and her were [[LoveAtFirstSight instantly smitten]] when they met.
** Young Isabel's annoyance because the Queen piece in chess can only move one square at a time is not an oversight either, as that was [[ShownTheirWork indeed the case]] in Medieval Chess. The change that made this piece so powerful was introduced in Spain during the 1490s, [[HistoricalInJoke in apparent homage to Isabel herself]].
** The scene where Juana de Avis gets artificially pregnant is based on a 15th century chronicle. The method was used by Jewish cattle breeders at the time.
** Juan Pacheco's villainy in the first season was toned ''down''. Yes, he did try to kidnap Enrique IV and [[JokerImmunity got away scott-free]]. The difference is that he did it twice. He also kidnapped Enrique's father (another king) once.
** Some of the 1476 rioteers did enter the Alcázar, although the Infanta was [[RuleOfDrama not directly threatened]].
** Isabel retaking Segovia by herself? It happened. Her dialogue in the scene is even quoted from a contemporary source.
** The completely ridiculous way in which Boabdil is captured by the enemy also happened. Twice.
** Before release, Olivares joked that people would criticize that the show's Isabel was too blonde [[HistoricalBeautyUpdate and pretty]]. Guess what was the first thing people complained about, often waving a portrait of when [[LogicalFallacies she was pushing 50 and dying of cancer]]. The chronicles of the time do describe the young Isabel as "nice-looking" and say that Fernando and her were [[LoveAtFirstSight instantly smitten]] when they met.
** Young Isabel's annoyance because the Queen piece in chess can only move one square at a time is not an oversight either, as that was [[ShownTheirWork indeed the case]] in Medieval Chess. The change that made this piece so powerful was introduced in Spain during the 1490s, [[HistoricalInJoke in apparent homage to Isabel herself]].
** The scene where Juana de Avis gets artificially pregnant is based on a 15th century chronicle. The method was used by Jewish cattle breeders at the time.
** Juan Pacheco's villainy in the first season was toned ''down''. Yes, he did try to kidnap Enrique IV and [[JokerImmunity got away scott-free]]. The difference is that he did it twice. He also kidnapped Enrique's father (another king) once.
** Some of the 1476 rioteers did enter the Alcázar, although the Infanta was [[RuleOfDrama not directly threatened]].
** Isabel retaking Segovia by herself? It happened. Her dialogue in the scene is even quoted from a contemporary source.
** The completely ridiculous way in which Boabdil is captured by the enemy also happened. Twice.
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* FirstInstallmentWins: ''Isabel'' is iconic and pretty much "the" costume period drama in Spain; it also made the jump to international platforms like [=DramaFever=], Netflix, and Amazon Prime. ''Carlos: Rey Emperador'' raised much less interest, due to its focus on non-Spanish history like the Protestant Reformation and the Conquest of Mexico. It gained a cult following among history buffs and costume dramas precisely for being the only show with Charles V and his siblings in a protagonic role, however.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Isabel does not wear her trademark white veil in the first season, which she adopted either after her marriage, the birth of her first child or even earlier. The second season has her adopting it as a sign of mourning after suffering a miscarriage.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Isabel is given Last Rites after a very difficult childbirth during the early stage of the Granada War. Of course she ends recovering. Even if one wasn't aware that Spain conquered Granada in 1492, the second season prologue shows it already.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Isabel is given Last Rites after a very difficult childbirth during the early stage of the Granada War. Of course she ends recovering. Even if one wasn't aware that Spain conquered Granada in 1492, the second season prologue shows it already.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Isabel does not wear her trademark [[IconicOutfit iconic white veil veil]] in the first season, which she adopted either after her marriage, the birth of her first child or even earlier. The second season has her adopting it as a sign of mourning after suffering a miscarriage.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Isabel is given Last Rites after a very difficult childbirth during the early stage of the Granada War. Of course she ends recovering. Even if one wasn't aware that Spain conquered Granada in 1492, the second seasonprologue [[HowWeGotHere prologue]] shows it already.
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** The deaths of most prominent Andalusian nobles [[{{Retirony}} in the last year of the war]], including the Marquis of Cadiz, the Duke of Medina-Sidonia and Beltrán de la Cueva (the only one that is aluded in the show by having him sustain an arrow wound during the final truce before the surrender of Granada).
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** The deaths of most prominent Andalusian nobles [[{{Retirony}} in the last year of the war]], including the Marquis of Cadiz, the Duke of Medina-Sidonia and Beltrán de la Cueva (the only one that is aluded in the show by having him sustain an arrow wound during the final truce before the surrender of Granada).(only alluded to, but briefly).
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** In the series, the Moors are led at the Battle of Lucena by Boabdil and the CompositeCharacter leader of the Abencerrajes. In real life, they were led by Boabdil and his AdaptedOut father-in-law Aliatar, who died in the battle. This could have been an easy source of conflict and drama between Boabdil and Moraima, as she would have all the reason to blame her husband for her father's death.
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** In the series, the Moors are led at the Battle of Lucena by Boabdil and the CompositeCharacter leader of the Abencerrajes. In real life, they were led by Boabdil and his AdaptedOut father-in-law Aliatar, who died in the battle. This could have been an easy source of conflict and drama between Boabdil and Moraima, as she would have all the reason to blame her husband for her father's death.
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** In the series, the Moors are led at the Battle of Lucena by Boabdil and the CompositeCharacter leader of the Abencerrajes. In real life, they were led by Boabdil and his father-in-law Aliatar, who died in the battle. This could have been an easy source of conflict and drama between Boabdil and Moraima, as she would have all the reason to blame her husband for her father's death.
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** In the series, the Moors are led at the Battle of Lucena by Boabdil and the CompositeCharacter leader of the Abencerrajes. In real life, they were led by Boabdil and his AdaptedOut father-in-law Aliatar, who died in the battle. This could have been an easy source of conflict and drama between Boabdil and Moraima, as she would have all the reason to blame her husband for her father's death.
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** In the series, the Moors are led at the Battle of Lucena by Boabdil and the CompositeCharacter leader of the Abencerrajes. In real life, they were led by Boabdil and his father-in-law Aliatar, who died in the battle. This could have been an easy source of conflict and drama between Boabdil and Moraima, as she would have all the reason to blame her husband for her father's death.
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** Diego Pacheco fighting in Granada, losing an arm in combat, and actually [[MagnificentBastard succeeding in weaseling his way back into the Court]] (though this could still be portrayed in the third season).
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** Diego Pacheco fighting in Granada, losing an arm in combat, and actually [[MagnificentBastard succeeding in weaseling his way back into the Court]] Court (though this could still be portrayed in the third season).
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** Columbus' whole project, from his arrival and long stance in La Rábida (which is omitted in the show) to his contacts with the aforementioned Marquis and Duke and Cardinal Mendoza in order to gain a second meeting with the Queen, his attempt to return to Portugal and his brother's travel to test England as an alternative funder.
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** Columbus' whole project, from his arrival and long stance in La Rábida (which is omitted in the show) to his contacts with the aforementioned Marquis and Duke and Cardinal Mendoza in order to gain a second meeting with the Queen, his attempt to return to Portugal and his brother's travel to test England as an alternative funder.funder.
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** In the years leading to ''Isabel'''s premiere there were a number of 'historically' themed shows in Spanish TV that actually had little to no historical accuracy, leading many to predict that this would be just as bad and probably flop. Neither happened.
** The series has also been called "manipulated", "right wing" and even "fascist" by separatists and people in the far left, purely because of its election as main character.
** In the years leading to ''Isabel'''s premiere there were a number of 'historically' themed shows in Spanish TV that actually had little to no historical accuracy, leading many to predict that this would be just as bad and probably flop. Neither happened.
** The series has also been called "manipulated", "right wing" and even "fascist" by separatists and people in the far left, purely because of its election as main character.
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The series has a hard time portraying large armies and battle scenes because of budget. [[YourMileageMayVary The FX succeed in other areas]], [[http://vimeo.com/88263938 however]].
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The series has a hard time portraying large armies and battle scenes because of budget. [[YourMileageMayVary The FX succeed in other areas]], areas, [[http://vimeo.com/88263938 however]].
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** Diego Pacheco fighting in Granada, losing an arm in combat, and actually [[MagnificentBastard succeeding in weaseling his way back into the Court]] (this (though this could still be portrayed as ''fait accompli'' in the third season).
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** Diego Pacheco fighting in Granada, losing an arm in combat, and actually [[MagnificentBastard succeeding in weaseling his way back into the Court]] (could still be portrayed as ''fait accompli'' in the third season).
** Beatriz de Osorio's high-profile romance with Rodrigo Téllez Girón, the son of Pedro Girón referenced in the first season (the story that has Isabel jealous of Osorio claims that this happened when Fernando tried to comfort Osorio following the death of Girón in combat). Also the fact that her would-be husband Hernán Peraza was in the Castilian court at the time of their engagement to answer for ''murder'' (whose charges were dropped after the two were engaged at the behest of the Queen), and how Osorio ruthlessly eliminated her enemies when Peraza was killed in vengeance after their arrival in the islands.
** Beatriz de Osorio's high-profile romance with Rodrigo Téllez Girón, the son of Pedro Girón referenced in the first season (the story that has Isabel jealous of Osorio claims that this happened when Fernando tried to comfort Osorio following the death of Girón in combat). Also the fact that her would-be husband Hernán Peraza was in the Castilian court at the time of their engagement to answer for ''murder'' (whose charges were dropped after the two were engaged at the behest of the Queen), and how Osorio ruthlessly eliminated her enemies when Peraza was killed in vengeance after their arrival in the islands.
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** [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome Alonso de Palencia]]'s role at Court until his fall from grace in 1480.
** Diego Pacheco fighting in Granada, losing an arm in combat, and actually [[MagnificentBastard succeeding in weaseling his way back into the Court]](could (this could still be portrayed as ''fait accompli'' in the third season).
** Beatrizde Osorio's high-profile romance with Rodrigo Téllez Girón, the son of season 1's Pedro Girón referenced in the first season (the story that has Isabel jealous of Osorio claims that this happened when Fernando tried to comfort Osorio following the death of Girón in combat). Also the fact that her would-be husband Hernán Peraza was in the Castilian court at the time of their engagement to answer for ''murder'' (whose charges were dropped after the two were engaged at the behest of the Queen), and how Osorio ruthlessly eliminated her enemies when Peraza was killed in vengeance after their arrival in and Osorio was besieged during a revolt by the islands.native Guanche people in 1488.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Isabel is given Last Rites after a very difficult childbirth during the early stage of the Granada War. Of course she ends recovering. Even if one wasn't aware that Spain conquered Granada in 1492, the second season prologue shows it already.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Isabel is given Last Rites after a very difficult childbirth during the early stage of the Granada War. Of course she ends recovering. Even if one wasn't aware that Spain conquered Granada in 1492, the second season prologue shows it already.already.
* SpecialEffectsFailure: The series has a hard time portraying large armies and battle scenes because of budget. [[YourMileageMayVary The FX succeed in other areas]], [[http://vimeo.com/88263938 however]].
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: How some feel about the second season. Not because the action and intrigue decline; on the other hand, too many years pass and so many things happen that it is impossible to give each as much screentime to explore them as the events in the first season. The first half of the second season feels closer to the first season, with many opponents carrying directly from there (Juana de Avis, Carrillo, Afonso V of Portugal, Pacheco's son) that are absent from the second half which is all about the war against Granada. It wouldn't have been difficult to split the years covered in two seasons, especially because [[FreakierThanFiction a lot of other historical events were left out]] to fit in the 13 episodes of the season that could have made good television in their own right, including:
** The suspicion that Juana de Avis was poisoned for fighting to become her daughter's regent and a ruler of Castile in her own right, not made as clear cut in the series.
** The Portuguese diplomatic attempts to have Muley Hacén's Granada on their side, and how while Muley Hacén refused them he seized the opportunity to stop paying tribute to Castile and sacked some towns in the frontier (including the one that actually brought Zoraida to him).
** Diego Pacheco and Alfonso Carrillo [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder resuming the war]] during the second Portuguese invasion.
** Diego Pacheco fighting in Granada, losing an arm in combat, and actually [[MagnificentBastard succeeding in weaseling his way back into the Court]] (could still be portrayed as ''fait accompli'' in the third season).
** Beatriz de Osorio's high-profile romance with Rodrigo Téllez Girón, the son of Pedro Girón referenced in the first season (the story that has Isabel jealous of Osorio claims that this happened when Fernando tried to comfort Osorio following the death of Girón in combat). Also the fact that her would-be husband Hernán Peraza was in the Castilian court at the time of their engagement to answer for ''murder'' (whose charges were dropped after the two were engaged at the behest of the Queen), and how Osorio ruthlessly eliminated her enemies when Peraza was killed in vengeance after their arrival in the islands.
** The Granada War between the fall of Malaga and the rendition of Granada itself, including [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse the fate of El Zagal]].
** The deaths of most prominent Andalusian nobles [[{{Retirony}} in the last year of the war]], including the Marquis of Cadiz, the Duke of Medina-Sidonia and Beltrán de la Cueva (the only one that is aluded in the show by having him sustain an arrow wound during the final truce before the surrender of Granada).
** Columbus' whole project, from his arrival and long stance in La Rábida (which is omitted in the show) to his contacts with the aforementioned Marquis and Duke and Cardinal Mendoza in order to gain a second meeting with the Queen, his attempt to return to Portugal and his brother's travel to test England as an alternative funder.
* SpecialEffectsFailure: The series has a hard time portraying large armies and battle scenes because of budget. [[YourMileageMayVary The FX succeed in other areas]], [[http://vimeo.com/88263938 however]].
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: How some feel about the second season. Not because the action and intrigue decline; on the other hand, too many years pass and so many things happen that it is impossible to give each as much screentime to explore them as the events in the first season. The first half of the second season feels closer to the first season, with many opponents carrying directly from there (Juana de Avis, Carrillo, Afonso V of Portugal, Pacheco's son) that are absent from the second half which is all about the war against Granada. It wouldn't have been difficult to split the years covered in two seasons, especially because [[FreakierThanFiction a lot of other historical events were left out]] to fit in the 13 episodes of the season that could have made good television in their own right, including:
** The suspicion that Juana de Avis was poisoned for fighting to become her daughter's regent and a ruler of Castile in her own right, not made as clear cut in the series.
** The Portuguese diplomatic attempts to have Muley Hacén's Granada on their side, and how while Muley Hacén refused them he seized the opportunity to stop paying tribute to Castile and sacked some towns in the frontier (including the one that actually brought Zoraida to him).
** Diego Pacheco and Alfonso Carrillo [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder resuming the war]] during the second Portuguese invasion.
** Diego Pacheco fighting in Granada, losing an arm in combat, and actually [[MagnificentBastard succeeding in weaseling his way back into the Court]] (could still be portrayed as ''fait accompli'' in the third season).
** Beatriz de Osorio's high-profile romance with Rodrigo Téllez Girón, the son of Pedro Girón referenced in the first season (the story that has Isabel jealous of Osorio claims that this happened when Fernando tried to comfort Osorio following the death of Girón in combat). Also the fact that her would-be husband Hernán Peraza was in the Castilian court at the time of their engagement to answer for ''murder'' (whose charges were dropped after the two were engaged at the behest of the Queen), and how Osorio ruthlessly eliminated her enemies when Peraza was killed in vengeance after their arrival in the islands.
** The Granada War between the fall of Malaga and the rendition of Granada itself, including [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse the fate of El Zagal]].
** The deaths of most prominent Andalusian nobles [[{{Retirony}} in the last year of the war]], including the Marquis of Cadiz, the Duke of Medina-Sidonia and Beltrán de la Cueva (the only one that is aluded in the show by having him sustain an arrow wound during the final truce before the surrender of Granada).
** Columbus' whole project, from his arrival and long stance in La Rábida (which is omitted in the show) to his contacts with the aforementioned Marquis and Duke and Cardinal Mendoza in order to gain a second meeting with the Queen, his attempt to return to Portugal and his brother's travel to test England as an alternative funder.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Isabel does not wear her trademark white veil in the second first season, which she adopted either after her marriage, the birth of her first child or even earlier. The second season has her adopting it as a sign of mourning after suffering a miscarriage.
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** In the years leading to ''Isabel'''s premiere there were a number of historical 'historically' themed shows in Spanish TV that actually had little to no historical accuracy, leading many to predict that it this would be just as bad and probably flop. Neither happened.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Isabel is given Last Rites after a very difficult childbirth during the early stage of the Granada War. Of course she ends recovering. Even if one wasn't aware that Spain conquered Granada in 1492, the second season prologue shows it already.
* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: In the years leading to ''Isabel'''s premiere there were a number of historical themed shows in Spanish TV that had little to no historical accuracy, leading many to predict that it would be just as bad and probably flop. Neither happened.
* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: In the years leading to ''Isabel'''s premiere there were a number of historical themed shows in Spanish TV that had little to no historical accuracy, leading many to predict that it would be just as bad and probably flop. Neither happened.
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* ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch:
** In the years leading to ''Isabel'''s premiere there were a number of historical themed shows in Spanish TV that had little to no historical accuracy, leading many to predict that it would be just as bad and probably flop. Neither happened.
** The series has also been called "manipulated", "right wing" and even "fascist" by separatists and people in the far left, purely because of its election as main character.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Isabel is given Last Rites after a very difficult childbirth during the early stage of the Granada War. Of course she ends recovering. Even if one wasn't aware that Spain conquered Granada in 1492, the second season prologue shows italready.
* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: In the years leading to ''Isabel'''s premiere there were a number of historical themed shows in Spanish TV that had little to no historical accuracy, leading many to predict that it would be just as bad and probably flop. Neither happened.already.
** In the years leading to ''Isabel'''s premiere there were a number of historical themed shows in Spanish TV that had little to no historical accuracy, leading many to predict that it would be just as bad and probably flop. Neither happened.
** The series has also been called "manipulated", "right wing" and even "fascist" by separatists and people in the far left, purely because of its election as main character.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Isabel is given Last Rites after a very difficult childbirth during the early stage of the Granada War. Of course she ends recovering. Even if one wasn't aware that Spain conquered Granada in 1492, the second season prologue shows it
* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: In the years leading to ''Isabel'''s premiere there were a number of historical themed shows in Spanish TV that had little to no historical accuracy, leading many to predict that it would be just as bad and probably flop. Neither happened.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Isabel does not wear her trademark white veil in the second season, which she adopted either after her marriage, the birth of her first child or even earlier. The second season has her adopting it as a sign of mourning after suffering a miscarriage.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Isabel is given Last Rites after a very difficult childbirth during the early stage of the Granada War. Of course she ends recovering. Even if one wasn't aware that Spain conquered Granada in 1492, the second season prologue shows italready.already.
* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: In the years leading to ''Isabel'''s premiere there were a number of historical themed shows in Spanish TV that had little to no historical accuracy, leading many to predict that it would be just as bad and probably flop. Neither happened.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Isabel is given Last Rites after a very difficult childbirth during the early stage of the Granada War. Of course she ends recovering. Even if one wasn't aware that Spain conquered Granada in 1492, the second season prologue shows it
* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: In the years leading to ''Isabel'''s premiere there were a number of historical themed shows in Spanish TV that had little to no historical accuracy, leading many to predict that it would be just as bad and probably flop. Neither happened.
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