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* FetishRetardant: Patrizia and Maurizio's sex scene early in the movie was this to some viewers, who found it awkward and uncomfortable.
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* FetishRetardant: Patrizia and Maurizio's sex scene early in the movie was this to some viewers, who found it awkward and uncomfortable.uncomfortable- though it could be debated that this is [[IntendedAudienceReaction exactly what they intended]].
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The trailer's music is a melodic version of "Heart of Glass" by Music/{{Blondie}}.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The trailer's music is a melodic version of "Heart of Glass" by Music/{{Blondie}}.Music/{{Blondie|Band}}.
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Thanks to extensive prosthetic makeup, Creator/JaredLeto is [[BeautyInversion barely recognizable]] as Paolo Gucci. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] as he looks pretty much ''nothing'' like the real Paolo Gucci.
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Thanks to extensive prosthetic makeup, Creator/JaredLeto is [[BeautyInversion barely recognizable]] as Paolo Gucci. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] as Gucci, even if he looks pretty much ''nothing'' like the real Paolo Gucci.
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* QuestionableCasting:
** A case similar to Creator/RidleyScott's previous films ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' and [[OvershadowedByControversy (before the infamous reshoots)]] ''Film/AllTheMoneyInTheWorld''. Though the transformational makeup used on Creator/JaredLeto was praised, several people asked why they didn't just hire a plainer, older, heavier actor who wouldn't require such extensive work done on them to play the part of Paolo. This was actually the subject of a minor controversy, with some railing against Leto being one in a long line of attractive actors who have stolen the part of an unattractive character from actors who actually look homely. Depending on who you ask, his actual performance either makes up for this or makes it all even worse, with the divide being whether or not his scenery chewing is hilarious and engaging or baffling and annoying. Reflecting this, Leto was nominated for a SAG Award ''and'' won a [[UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward Razzie]] for his performance.
** Another involves how Scott chose to cast American actors (with only a couple even being of Italian descent) instead of actual Italians to play the Gucci family, with particular criticism going towards the many over the top and inaccurate accents. Music/LadyGaga and Jared Leto were especially criticized over this, with many saying the former's accent doesn't even sound Italian whilst the latter's was deemed so over the top it was frequently compared to Franchise/SuperMario. Creator/JeremyIrons meanwhile has received both praise and criticism for his practically nonexistent attempt at an accent, with the latter reaction claiming it's distracting and out of place while the former group noted that it came across better than the incredibly over the top efforts of his cast members.
** A case similar to Creator/RidleyScott's previous films ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' and [[OvershadowedByControversy (before the infamous reshoots)]] ''Film/AllTheMoneyInTheWorld''. Though the transformational makeup used on Creator/JaredLeto was praised, several people asked why they didn't just hire a plainer, older, heavier actor who wouldn't require such extensive work done on them to play the part of Paolo. This was actually the subject of a minor controversy, with some railing against Leto being one in a long line of attractive actors who have stolen the part of an unattractive character from actors who actually look homely. Depending on who you ask, his actual performance either makes up for this or makes it all even worse, with the divide being whether or not his scenery chewing is hilarious and engaging or baffling and annoying. Reflecting this, Leto was nominated for a SAG Award ''and'' won a [[UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward Razzie]] for his performance.
** Another involves how Scott chose to cast American actors (with only a couple even being of Italian descent) instead of actual Italians to play the Gucci family, with particular criticism going towards the many over the top and inaccurate accents. Music/LadyGaga and Jared Leto were especially criticized over this, with many saying the former's accent doesn't even sound Italian whilst the latter's was deemed so over the top it was frequently compared to Franchise/SuperMario. Creator/JeremyIrons meanwhile has received both praise and criticism for his practically nonexistent attempt at an accent, with the latter reaction claiming it's distracting and out of place while the former group noted that it came across better than the incredibly over the top efforts of his cast members.
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* WTHCastingAgency:
** A case similar to Creator/RidleyScott's previous films ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' and [[OvershadowedByControversy (before the infamous reshoots)]] ''Film/AllTheMoneyInTheWorld''. Though the transformational makeup used on Creator/JaredLeto was praised, several people asked why they didn't just hire a plainer, older, heavier actor who wouldn't require such extensive work done on them to play the part of Paolo. This was actually the subject of a minor controversy, with some railing against Leto being one in a long line of attractive actors who have stolen the part of an unattractive character from actors who actually look homely. Depending on who you ask, his actual performance either makes up for this or makes it all even worse, with the divide being whether or not his scenery chewing is hilarious and engaging or baffling and annoying. Reflecting this, Leto was nominated for a SAG Award ''and'' won a [[UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward Razzie]] for his performance.
** Another involves how Scott chose to cast American actors (with only a couple even being of Italian descent) instead of actual Italians to play the Gucci family, with particular criticism going towards the many over the top and inaccurate accents. Music/LadyGaga and Jared Leto were especially criticized over this, with many saying the former's accent doesn't even sound Italian whilst the latter's was deemed so over the top it was frequently compared to Franchise/SuperMario. Creator/JeremyIrons meanwhile has received both praise and criticism for his practically nonexistent attempt at an accent, with the latter reaction claiming it's distracting and out of place while the former group noted that it came across better than the incredibly over the top efforts of his cast members.
** A case similar to Creator/RidleyScott's previous films ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' and [[OvershadowedByControversy (before the infamous reshoots)]] ''Film/AllTheMoneyInTheWorld''. Though the transformational makeup used on Creator/JaredLeto was praised, several people asked why they didn't just hire a plainer, older, heavier actor who wouldn't require such extensive work done on them to play the part of Paolo. This was actually the subject of a minor controversy, with some railing against Leto being one in a long line of attractive actors who have stolen the part of an unattractive character from actors who actually look homely. Depending on who you ask, his actual performance either makes up for this or makes it all even worse, with the divide being whether or not his scenery chewing is hilarious and engaging or baffling and annoying. Reflecting this, Leto was nominated for a SAG Award ''and'' won a [[UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward Razzie]] for his performance.
** Another involves how Scott chose to cast American actors (with only a couple even being of Italian descent) instead of actual Italians to play the Gucci family, with particular criticism going towards the many over the top and inaccurate accents. Music/LadyGaga and Jared Leto were especially criticized over this, with many saying the former's accent doesn't even sound Italian whilst the latter's was deemed so over the top it was frequently compared to Franchise/SuperMario. Creator/JeremyIrons meanwhile has received both praise and criticism for his practically nonexistent attempt at an accent, with the latter reaction claiming it's distracting and out of place while the former group noted that it came across better than the incredibly over the top efforts of his cast members.
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%%* FandomRivalry: With ''Film/{{Spencer}}'', due to Creator/KristenStewart and Music/LadyGaga initially seeming to be each other's biggest rivals for Best Actress at the UsefulNotes/{{Academy Award}}s.
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** A case similar to Creator/RidleyScott's previous films ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' and [[OvershadowedByControversy (before the infamous reshoots)]] ''Film/AllTheMoneyInTheWorld''. Though the transformational makeup used on Creator/JaredLeto was praised, several people asked why they didn't just hire a plainer, older, heavier actor who wouldn't require such extensive work done on them to play the part of Paolo. This was actually the subject of a minor controversy, with some railing against Leto being one in a long line of attractive actors who have stolen the part of an unattractive character from actors who actually look homely. Depending on who you ask, his actual performance either makes up for this or makes it all even worse, with the divide being whether or not his scenery chewing is hilarious and engaging or baffling and annoying. Reflecting this, Leto was nominated for a SAG Award and won a Razzie for his performance.
** Another involves how Scott chose to cast American actors (with only a couple being of Italian descent) instead of actual Italians to play the Gucci family, with particular criticism going towards the many over the top and inaccurate accents. Music/LadyGaga and Jared Leto were especially criticized over this, with many saying the former's accent doesn't even sound Italian whilst the latter's was deemed so over the top it was frequently compared to Franchise/SuperMario. Creator/JeremyIrons meanwhile has received both praise and criticism for his practically nonexistent attempt at an accent, with the latter reaction claiming it's distracting and out of place while the former group noted that it came across better than the incredibly over the top efforts of his cast members.
** Another involves how Scott chose to cast American actors (with only a couple being of Italian descent) instead of actual Italians to play the Gucci family, with particular criticism going towards the many over the top and inaccurate accents. Music/LadyGaga and Jared Leto were especially criticized over this, with many saying the former's accent doesn't even sound Italian whilst the latter's was deemed so over the top it was frequently compared to Franchise/SuperMario. Creator/JeremyIrons meanwhile has received both praise and criticism for his practically nonexistent attempt at an accent, with the latter reaction claiming it's distracting and out of place while the former group noted that it came across better than the incredibly over the top efforts of his cast members.
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** A case similar to Creator/RidleyScott's previous films ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' and [[OvershadowedByControversy (before the infamous reshoots)]] ''Film/AllTheMoneyInTheWorld''. Though the transformational makeup used on Creator/JaredLeto was praised, several people asked why they didn't just hire a plainer, older, heavier actor who wouldn't require such extensive work done on them to play the part of Paolo. This was actually the subject of a minor controversy, with some railing against Leto being one in a long line of attractive actors who have stolen the part of an unattractive character from actors who actually look homely. Depending on who you ask, his actual performance either makes up for this or makes it all even worse, with the divide being whether or not his scenery chewing is hilarious and engaging or baffling and annoying. Reflecting this, Leto was nominated for a SAG Award and ''and'' won a Razzie [[UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward Razzie]] for his performance.
** Another involves how Scott chose to cast American actors (with only a couple even being of Italian descent) instead of actual Italians to play the Gucci family, with particular criticism going towards the many over the top and inaccurate accents. Music/LadyGaga and Jared Leto were especially criticized over this, with many saying the former's accent doesn't even sound Italian whilst the latter's was deemed so over the top it was frequently compared to Franchise/SuperMario. Creator/JeremyIrons meanwhile has received both praise and criticism for his practically nonexistent attempt at an accent, with the latter reaction claiming it's distracting and out of place while the former group noted that it came across better than the incredibly over the top efforts of his cast members.
** Another involves how Scott chose to cast American actors (with only a couple even being of Italian descent) instead of actual Italians to play the Gucci family, with particular criticism going towards the many over the top and inaccurate accents. Music/LadyGaga and Jared Leto were especially criticized over this, with many saying the former's accent doesn't even sound Italian whilst the latter's was deemed so over the top it was frequently compared to Franchise/SuperMario. Creator/JeremyIrons meanwhile has received both praise and criticism for his practically nonexistent attempt at an accent, with the latter reaction claiming it's distracting and out of place while the former group noted that it came across better than the incredibly over the top efforts of his cast members.
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* FetishRetardant: Patrizia and Maurizio's infamous sex scene has been noted as awkward and uncomfortable rather than the titillating experience it's going for.
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* FetishRetardant: Patrizia and Maurizio's infamous sex scene has been noted as early in the movie was this to some viewers, who found it awkward and uncomfortable rather than the titillating experience it's going for.uncomfortable.
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* UncertainAudience: The film has been critiqued for an inconsistent tone. At times the film is over the top and campy (usually when Paolo is on screen), jarring with its more serious scenes and some actors such as Adam Driver and Jack Huston feeling like they were directed to act as though they were in a serious drama while others like Jared Leto and Al Pacino were instructed to ham it up as though it were a tongue in cheek comedy.
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* UncertainAudience: The film has been critiqued for an inconsistent tone. At times the film is over the top and campy (usually when Paolo is on screen), jarring with its more serious scenes and some actors such as Adam Driver Driver, Jeremy Irons and Jack Huston feeling like they were directed to act as though they were in a serious drama while others like Jared Leto and Al Pacino were instructed to ham it up as though it were a tongue in cheek comedy.
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* {{Narm}}:
** Patricia and Maurizio's sex scene on account of being absurdly over the top, yet played completely straight.
** Paolo's freakout towards Patrizia and Maurizio. Creator/JaredLeto's incredibly hammy performance is transferred with no change from comedic scenes to a dramatic one, and the transition results in some rather awkward scenery chewing.
** Patricia and Maurizio's sex scene on account of being absurdly over the top, yet played completely straight.
** Paolo's freakout towards Patrizia and Maurizio. Creator/JaredLeto's incredibly hammy performance is transferred with no change from comedic scenes to a dramatic one, and the transition results in some rather awkward scenery chewing.
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* {{Narm}}:
** Patricia and Maurizio's sex scene on account of being absurdly over the top, yet played completely straight.
**{{Narm}}: Paolo's freakout towards Patrizia and Maurizio. Creator/JaredLeto's incredibly hammy performance is transferred with no change from comedic scenes to a dramatic one, and the transition results in some rather awkward scenery chewing.
** Patricia and Maurizio's sex scene on account of being absurdly over the top, yet played completely straight.
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** Patricia is either seen as an exciting VillainProtagonist, or a one note and over the top baddie.
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** Patricia Patrizia is either seen as an exciting VillainProtagonist, or a one note and over the top baddie.
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* FetishRetardant: Patricia and Maurizio's infamous sex scene has been noted as awkward and uncomfortable rather than the titillating experience it's going for.
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** Paolo's freakout towards Patricia and Maurizio. Creator/JaredLeto's incredibly hammy performance is transferred with no change from comedic scenes to a dramatic one, and the transition results in some rather awkward scenery chewing.
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** Paolo's freakout towards Patricia Patrizia and Maurizio. Creator/JaredLeto's incredibly hammy performance is transferred with no change from comedic scenes to a dramatic one, and the transition results in some rather awkward scenery chewing.
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** Maurizio may be Patricia's co-lead, but he's clearly given the short end of the stick when it comes to development, with little to tell us why he does what he does outside of her influence. Especially bad when he leaves her then we don't even see what drives him when it comes to all of his later actions. The fact that Maurizio is considered to be a very interesting historical figure only makes this worse, as does him being played by Creator/AdamDriver, with the widely acclaimed actor not having all that much to work with.
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** Maurizio may be Patricia's Patrizia's co-lead, but he's clearly given the short end of the stick when it comes to development, with little to tell us why he does what he does outside of her influence. Especially bad when he leaves her then we don't even see what drives him when it comes to all of his later actions. The fact that Maurizio is considered to be a very interesting historical figure only makes this worse, as does him being played by Creator/AdamDriver, with the widely acclaimed actor not having all that much to work with.
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** Some have noted it feels like Pina's role was lost in editing. We never actually see her meet Patricia in person before suddenly they've become close to each other. She then spends the rest of the film only infrequently popping up in small scenes before out of nowhere she puts the assassination plot into play. And even then, she still stays a minor, undeveloped role.
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** Some have noted it feels like Pina's role was lost in editing. We never actually see her meet Patricia Patrizia in person before suddenly they've become close to each other. She then spends the rest of the film only infrequently popping up in small scenes before out of nowhere she puts the assassination plot into play. And even then, she still stays a minor, undeveloped role.
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* AwardSnub: The film's cast was completely shut out at the UsefulNotes/{{Academy Award}}s. Even Music/LadyGaga, who was thought of being an easy lock-in for a Best Actress nomination, didn't receive anything. The same went for Creator/JaredLeto. Gaga's case is especially surprising, since she had received nominations for every other major award ([[UsefulNotes/GoldenGlobeAward Golden Globes]], UsefulNotes/{{BAFTA}}s, Critics Choice Awards, Screen Actors Guild Awards) considered to be precursors to the Oscars. Also considering the subject matter, it wasn't up for Best Costume Design.
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* AwardSnub: The film's cast was completely shut out at the UsefulNotes/{{Academy Award}}s. Even Music/LadyGaga, who was thought of being an easy lock-in for a Best Actress nomination, didn't receive anything. The same went for Creator/JaredLeto. Gaga's case is especially surprising, since she had Music/LadyGaga received nominations for every other major award ([[UsefulNotes/GoldenGlobeAward Golden Globes]], UsefulNotes/{{BAFTA}}s, Critics Choice Awards, Screen Actors Guild Awards) considered to be precursors to the Academy Awards, but was not nominated at the Oscars. Also considering the subject matter, it wasn't up for Best Costume Design.Design, which even the film's most adamant detractors have admitted was deserving of recognition.
* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Paolo, with the main split being whether or not you find his [[LargeHam exceptionally hammy]] portrayal entertaining or annoying.
** Patricia is either seen as an exciting VillainProtagonist, or a one note and over the top baddie.
* BrokenBase: Amongst detractors, there's an odd split on whether or not the film suffers from being too campy or not campy enough, really depending on whether you prefer the subtle scenes and characters or the over the top ones.
** Paolo, with the main split being whether or not you find his [[LargeHam exceptionally hammy]] portrayal entertaining or annoying.
** Patricia is either seen as an exciting VillainProtagonist, or a one note and over the top baddie.
* BrokenBase: Amongst detractors, there's an odd split on whether or not the film suffers from being too campy or not campy enough, really depending on whether you prefer the subtle scenes and characters or the over the top ones.
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** A case similar to Creator/RidleyScott's previous films ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' and [[OvershadowedByControversy (before the infamous reshoots)]] ''Film/AllTheMoneyInTheWorld''. Though the transformational makeup used on Creator/JaredLeto was praised, several people asked why they didn't just hire a plainer, older, heavier actor who wouldn't require such extensive work done on them to play the part of Paolo. This was actually the subject of a minor controversy, with some railing against Leto being one in a long line of attractive actors who have stolen the part of an unattractive character from actors who actually look homely. Depending on who you ask, his actual performance either makes up for this or makes it all even worse, with the divide being whether or not his scenery chewing is hilarious and engaging or baffling and annoying.
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** A case similar to Creator/RidleyScott's previous films ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' and [[OvershadowedByControversy (before the infamous reshoots)]] ''Film/AllTheMoneyInTheWorld''. Though the transformational makeup used on Creator/JaredLeto was praised, several people asked why they didn't just hire a plainer, older, heavier actor who wouldn't require such extensive work done on them to play the part of Paolo. This was actually the subject of a minor controversy, with some railing against Leto being one in a long line of attractive actors who have stolen the part of an unattractive character from actors who actually look homely. Depending on who you ask, his actual performance either makes up for this or makes it all even worse, with the divide being whether or not his scenery chewing is hilarious and engaging or baffling and annoying. Reflecting this, Leto was nominated for a SAG Award and won a Razzie for his performance.
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Thanks to extensive prosthetic makeup, Creator/JaredLeto is [[BeautyInversion barely recognizable]] as Paolo Gucci.
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Thanks to extensive prosthetic makeup, Creator/JaredLeto is [[BeautyInversion barely recognizable]] as Paolo Gucci. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] as he looks pretty much ''nothing'' like the real Paolo Gucci.
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* UncertainAudience: The film has been critiqued for an inconsistent tone. At times the film is over the top and campy (usually when Paolo is on screen), jarring with its more serious scenes.
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* UncertainAudience: The film has been critiqued for an inconsistent tone. At times the film is over the top and campy (usually when Paolo is on screen), jarring with its more serious scenes.scenes and some actors such as Adam Driver and Jack Huston feeling like they were directed to act as though they were in a serious drama while others like Jared Leto and Al Pacino were instructed to ham it up as though it were a tongue in cheek comedy.
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* CostumePorn: In a film about one of the most successful fashion houses of all time, there's no shortage of amazing fashion. Subverted with Paolo, whose horrible fashion sense is a minor plot point.
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* CostumePorn: In a film about one of the most successful fashion houses of all time, there's no shortage of amazing fashion. Subverted with Paolo, whose horrible fashion sense is a minor plot point.
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Creator/JaredLeto is completely [[BeautyInversion unrecognizable]] as what it's meant to be Paolo Gucci.
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Thanks to extensive prosthetic makeup, Creator/JaredLeto is completely [[BeautyInversion unrecognizable]] barely recognizable]] as what it's meant to be Paolo Gucci.
