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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common criticism about this episode is how it shares too many similarities with "Chapter 9: The Ghost". Hilda and David are called to help Frida with a problem[[note]]With helping find her book and helping her help the Nisse[[/note]], only to end with the friends having a fallout. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Is it also worth mentioning that both episodes involved Frida's book being taken by her Nisse?]] The only main difference is that Frida and Hilda reconcile at the end. It doesn't help that "Chapter 9: The Ghost" is one of the most divisive episodes which only drags this episode down even further.

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common criticism about this episode is how it shares too many similarities with "Chapter 9: The Ghost". Hilda and David are called to help Frida with a problem[[note]]With helping find her book and helping her help the Nisse[[/note]], only to end with the friends having a fallout. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Is it also worth mentioning that both episodes involved Frida's book being taken by her Nisse?]] The only main difference is that Frida and Hilda reconcile at the end. It doesn't help that "Chapter 9: The Ghost" is one of the most divisive episodes which only drags this episode down even further.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: While Hilda, David, and Frida succeed in creating a library where Nisse can share things and not steal from each other, that doesn't mean that they stopped the Nisse from stealing from humans. Since the library has limited supplies, the Nisse will likely resort to stealing from other homeowners. The only possible way to subvert this is if the library really did have everything they need.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common criticism about this episode is how it shares too many similarities with "Chapter 9: The Ghost" and "Chapter 12: The Nisse". In the case with "Chapter 9: The Ghost", Hilda and David are called to help Frida with a problem[[note]]With helping find her book and helping her help the Nisse[[/note]], only to end with the friends having a fallout. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Is it also worth mentioning that both episodes involved Frida's book being taken by her Nisse?]] With "Chapter 12: The Nisse", Hilda tries to help at least one Nisse, only for her efforts to end in failure[[note]]Failing to find Tontu a new home and messing up Frida's Nisse meeting[[/note]]. "Chapter 12: The Nisse" and this episode also have Hilda reconcile with Frida. Unfortunately, "Chapter 9: The Ghost" being a more divisive episode only drags this episode down even further.

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common criticism about this episode is how it shares too many similarities with "Chapter 9: The Ghost" and "Chapter 12: The Nisse". In the case with "Chapter 9: The Ghost", Ghost". Hilda and David are called to help Frida with a problem[[note]]With helping find her book and helping her help the Nisse[[/note]], only to end with the friends having a fallout. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Is it also worth mentioning that both episodes involved Frida's book being taken by her Nisse?]] With "Chapter 12: The Nisse", Hilda tries to help at least one Nisse, only for her efforts to end in failure[[note]]Failing to find Tontu a new home main difference is that Frida and messing up Frida's Nisse meeting[[/note]]. "Chapter 12: The Nisse" and this episode also have Hilda reconcile with Frida. Unfortunately, at the end. It doesn't help that "Chapter 9: The Ghost" being a more is one of the most divisive episode episodes which only drags this episode down even further.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common criticism about this episode is how it shares too many similarities with "Chapter 9: The Ghost" and "Chapter 12: The Nisse". In the case with "Chapter 9: The Ghost", Hilda and David are called to help Frida with a problem[[note]]With helping find her book and helping her help the Nisse[[/note]], only to end with the friends having a fallout. With "Chapter 12: The Nisse", Hilda tries to help at least one Nisse, only for her efforts to end in failure[[note]]Failing to find Tontu a new home and messing up Frida's Nisse meeting[[/note]]. "Chapter 12: The Nisse" and this episode also have Hilda reconcile with Frida. Unfortunately, "Chapter 9: The Ghost" being a more divisive episode only drags this episode down even further.

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common criticism about this episode is how it shares too many similarities with "Chapter 9: The Ghost" and "Chapter 12: The Nisse". In the case with "Chapter 9: The Ghost", Hilda and David are called to help Frida with a problem[[note]]With helping find her book and helping her help the Nisse[[/note]], only to end with the friends having a fallout. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Is it also worth mentioning that both episodes involved Frida's book being taken by her Nisse?]] With "Chapter 12: The Nisse", Hilda tries to help at least one Nisse, only for her efforts to end in failure[[note]]Failing to find Tontu a new home and messing up Frida's Nisse meeting[[/note]]. "Chapter 12: The Nisse" and this episode also have Hilda reconcile with Frida. Unfortunately, "Chapter 9: The Ghost" being a more divisive episode only drags this episode down even further.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common criticism about this episode is how it shares too many similarities with "Chapter 9: The Ghost" and "Chapter 12: The Nisse". In comparison to "Chapter 9: The Ghost", Hilda and David are called to help Frida with a problem[[note]]With helping find her book and helping her help the Nisse[[/note]], only to end with the friends having a fallout. With "Chapter 12: The Nisse", Hilda tries to help at least one Nisse, only for her efforts to end in failure[[note]]Failing to find Tontu a new home and messing up Frida's Nisse meeting[[/note]]. "Chapter 12: The Nisse" and this episode also have Hilda reconcile with Frida. Unfortunately, "Chapter 9: The Ghost" being a more divisive episode only drags this episode down even further.

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common criticism about this episode is how it shares too many similarities with "Chapter 9: The Ghost" and "Chapter 12: The Nisse". In comparison to the case with "Chapter 9: The Ghost", Hilda and David are called to help Frida with a problem[[note]]With helping find her book and helping her help the Nisse[[/note]], only to end with the friends having a fallout. With "Chapter 12: The Nisse", Hilda tries to help at least one Nisse, only for her efforts to end in failure[[note]]Failing to find Tontu a new home and messing up Frida's Nisse meeting[[/note]]. "Chapter 12: The Nisse" and this episode also have Hilda reconcile with Frida. Unfortunately, "Chapter 9: The Ghost" being a more divisive episode only drags this episode down even further.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common criticism about this episode is how it shares too many similarities with "Chapter 9: The Ghost" and "Chapter 12: The Nisse". In comparison to "Chapter 9: The Ghost", Hilda and David are called to help Frida with a problem[[note]]With helping find her book and helping her help the Nisse[[/note]], only to end with the friends having a fallout. With "Chapter 12: The Nisse", Hilda tries to help at least one Nisse, only for her efforts to end in failure[[note]]Failing to find Tontu a new home and messing up Frida's Nisse meeting[[/note]]. "Chapter 12: The Nisse" and this episode also have Hilda reconcile with Frida. Unfortunately, "Chapter 9: The Ghost" being a more divisive episode only drags this episode down even further.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Frida could fall into this. Between prioritizing holding a town hall meeting (which the episode makes it clear right off the bat that she always wished to do so) over helping Hilda find her father, acting coldly to Hilda for a brief moment for ruining the meeting, throwing a pity party for herself while Hilda is crying over potentially being abandoned again (albeit unknowingly), and giving a half-hearted apology while Hilda gives a more meaningful one for having abandonment issues in the first place, fans have often cited her in this episode being at her absolute worst. There’s also the fact that the meeting in question was already going nowhere due to the Nisse’s natural animosity towards each other (something Tontu points out), meaning that Hilda’s actions had little impact besides delaying the inevitable anyway.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Despite being fairly tolerable for most of the episode, fans will never forget David neglecting to console Hilda after it’s revealed the radio messages weren’t from her father, instead preferring to go home for a “pizza night.”
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Frida could fall into this. Between prioritizing holding a town hall meeting (which the episode makes it clear right off the bat that she always wished to do so) over helping Hilda find her father, acting coldly to Hilda for a brief moment for ruining the meeting, throwing a pity party for herself while Hilda is crying over potentially being abandoned again (albeit unknowingly), and giving a half-hearted apology while Hilda gives a more meaningful one for having abandonment issues in the first place, fans have often cited her in this episode being at her absolute worst. There’s also the fact that the meeting in question was already going nowhere due to the Nisse’s natural animosity towards each other (something Tontu points out), meaning that Hilda’s actions had little impact besides delaying the inevitable anyway.anyway.
* TheWoobie: Hilda. Having abandonment issues from losing her father again? Check. Gaining little to no support from her friends the entire episode? Check. Having her efforts seemingly be in vain when it’s revealed the radio broadcasts weren’t from her father? Check.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Despite being fairly tolerable for most of the episode, fans will never forget David neglecting to console Hilda after it’s revealed the radio messages weren’t from her father, instead preferring to go home for a “pizza night.”
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** The Aesop of not letting your own needs get in the way of your friends could be seen as completely muddled by Frida and David’s reactions to Hilda’s plight, as described below.

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** The Aesop of not letting your own needs get in the way of your friends could be seen as completely muddled by Frida and David’s David's unsupportive reactions to Hilda’s plight, as described below.Hilda's plight.
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** The aesop of sharing can be considered this due to the Nisse suddenly having a [[HeelFaceTurn complete 180 in behavior]] upon seeing the lending library that Hilda and friends had set up in nowhere space.
** The aesop of not letting your own needs get in the way of your friends could be seen as completely muddled by Frida and David’s reactions to Hilda’s plight, as described below.

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** The aesop Aesop of sharing can be considered this due to the Nisse suddenly having a [[HeelFaceTurn complete 180 in behavior]] upon seeing the lending library that Hilda and friends had set up in nowhere space.
** The aesop Aesop of not letting your own needs get in the way of your friends could be seen as completely muddled by Frida and David’s reactions to Hilda’s plight, as described below.
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** For that matter, the aesop of not letting your own needs get in the way of your friends could be seen as completely muddled by Frida and David’s reactions to Hilda’s plight, as described below.

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** For that matter, the The aesop of not letting your own needs get in the way of your friends could be seen as completely muddled by Frida and David’s reactions to Hilda’s plight, as described below.

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* BrokenAesop: The aesop of sharing can be considered this due to the Nisse suddenly having a [[HeelFaceTurn complete 180 in behavior]] upon seeing the lending library that Hilda and friends had set up in nowhere space.

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The aesop of sharing can be considered this due to the Nisse suddenly having a [[HeelFaceTurn complete 180 in behavior]] upon seeing the lending library that Hilda and friends had set up in nowhere space.

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* BrokenBase: Frida’s apathy towards Hilda in this episode (see UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below). Some argue that her actions her could be considered worse than her arc in Season 1, while others don’t mind, claiming that it’s perfectly natural for her character. Others acknowledge her selfishness as unsympathetic, but don’t see it as worthy of ruining the episode for them.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Frida could fall into this. Between prioritizing holding a town hall meeting (which the episode makes it clear right off the bat that she always wished to do so) over helping Hilda find her father, acting coldly to Hilda for a brief moment for ruining the meeting (as described above), throwing a pity party for herself while Hilda is crying over potentially being abandoned again (albeit unknowingly), and giving a half-hearted apology while Hilda gives a more meaningful one for having abandonment issues in the first place, fans have often cited her in this episode being at her absolute worst. There’s also the fact that the meeting in question was already going nowhere due to the Nisse’s natural animosity towards each other (something Tontu points out), meaning that Hilda’s actions had little impact besides delaying the inevitable anyway.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Frida could fall into this. Between prioritizing holding a town hall meeting (which the episode makes it clear right off the bat that she always wished to do so) over helping Hilda find her father, acting coldly to Hilda for a brief moment for ruining the meeting (as described above), meeting, throwing a pity party for herself while Hilda is crying over potentially being abandoned again (albeit unknowingly), and giving a half-hearted apology while Hilda gives a more meaningful one for having abandonment issues in the first place, fans have often cited her in this episode being at her absolute worst. There’s also the fact that the meeting in question was already going nowhere due to the Nisse’s natural animosity towards each other (something Tontu points out), meaning that Hilda’s actions had little impact besides delaying the inevitable anyway.
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* BrokenBase: Frida’s apathy towards Hilda in this episode (see UnintentionallyUnsympatheticBelow). Some argue that her actions her could be considered worse than her arc in Season 1, while others don’t mind, claiming that it’s perfectly natural for her character. Others acknowledge her selfishness as unsympathetic, but don’t see it as worthy of ruining the episode for them.

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* BrokenBase: Frida’s apathy towards Hilda in this episode (see UnintentionallyUnsympatheticBelow).UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below). Some argue that her actions her could be considered worse than her arc in Season 1, while others don’t mind, claiming that it’s perfectly natural for her character. Others acknowledge her selfishness as unsympathetic, but don’t see it as worthy of ruining the episode for them.

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* BrokenBase: Frida’s apathy towards Hilda in this episode (see UnintentionallyUnsympatheticBelow). Some argue that her actions her could be considered worse than her arc in Season 1, while others don’t mind, claiming that it’s perfectly natural for her character. Others acknowledge her selfishness as unsympathetic, but don’t see it as worthy of ruining the episode for them.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Frida could fall into this. Between prioritizing holding a town hall meeting (which the episode makes it clear right off the bat that she always wished to do so) over helping Hilda find her father, acting coldly to Hilda for a brief moment for ruining the meeting (as described above), throwing a pity party for herself while Hilda is crying over potentially being abandoned again (albeit unknowingly), and giving a half-hearted apology while Hilda gives a more meaningful one for having abandonment issues in the first place, fans have often cited her actions in this episode as worse than the wrongdoings she did in Season 1. There’s also the fact that the meeting in question was already going nowhere due to the Nisse’s natural animosity towards each other (something Tontu points out), meaning that Hilda’s actions had little impact besides delaying the inevitable anyway.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Frida could fall into this. Between prioritizing holding a town hall meeting (which the episode makes it clear right off the bat that she always wished to do so) over helping Hilda find her father, acting coldly to Hilda for a brief moment for ruining the meeting (as described above), throwing a pity party for herself while Hilda is crying over potentially being abandoned again (albeit unknowingly), and giving a half-hearted apology while Hilda gives a more meaningful one for having abandonment issues in the first place, fans have often cited her actions in this episode as worse than the wrongdoings she did in Season 1.being at her absolute worst. There’s also the fact that the meeting in question was already going nowhere due to the Nisse’s natural animosity towards each other (something Tontu points out), meaning that Hilda’s actions had little impact besides delaying the inevitable anyway.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Despite being fairly tolerable for the whole episode, fans will never forget David being too afraid to console Hilda after it’s revealed the radio messages weren’t from her father, instead preferring to go home for a “pizza night.”

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* NeverLiveItDown: Despite being fairly tolerable for most of the whole episode, fans will never forget David being too afraid neglecting to console Hilda after it’s revealed the radio messages weren’t from her father, instead preferring to go home for a “pizza night.”
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Hilda can be seen as this. While she did ruin the town hall meeting David and Frida took a lot of effort setting up (via calling out the Nisse who stole her radio and causing a massive fight), the only reason she did so was because she was desperate to find her father and didn’t want to accept the possibility that she could’ve abandoned him again. Between this, having a breakdown when she seemingly doesn’t find him despite her efforts to do so, and the fact that she feels the need to apologize for this along with keeping the radio from Tontu, [[TheWoobie you can’t help but want to give her a hug.]]
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* BrokenAesop: The aesop of sharing can be considered this due to the Nisse suddenly having a [[HeelFaceTurn complete 180 in behavior]] upon seeing the lending library that Hilda and friends had set up in nowhere space.
** For that matter, the aesop of not letting your own needs get in the way of your friends could be seen as completely muddled by Frida and David’s reactions to Hilda’s plight, as described below.
* NeverLiveItDown: Despite being fairly tolerable for the whole episode, fans will never forget David being too afraid to console Hilda after it’s revealed the radio messages weren’t from her father, instead preferring to go home for a “pizza night.”
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Hilda can be seen as this. While she did ruin the town hall meeting David and Frida took a lot of effort setting up (via calling out the Nisse who stole her radio and causing a massive fight), the only reason she did so was because she was desperate to find her father and didn’t want to accept the possibility that she could’ve abandoned him again. Between this, having a breakdown when she seemingly doesn’t find him despite her efforts to do so, and the fact that she feels the need to apologize for this along with keeping the radio from Tontu, [[TheWoobie you can’t help but want to give her a hug.]]
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Frida could fall into this. Between prioritizing holding a town hall meeting (which the episode makes it clear right off the bat that she always wished to do so) over helping Hilda find her father, acting coldly to Hilda for a brief moment for ruining the meeting (as described above), throwing a pity party for herself while Hilda is crying over potentially being abandoned again (albeit unknowingly), and giving a half-hearted apology while Hilda gives a more meaningful one for having abandonment issues in the first place, fans have often cited her actions in this episode as worse than the wrongdoings she did in Season 1. There’s also the fact that the meeting in question was already going nowhere due to the Nisse’s natural animosity towards each other (something Tontu points out), meaning that Hilda’s actions had little impact besides delaying the inevitable anyway.

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