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* BrokenBase: Lucifer, Asmodeus and Beelzebub undergoing AdaptationalHeroism has been met either with excitement from the fanbase who consider it to be an interesting take on these characters (as they're usually depicted in a stereotypical bad manner) or believe that their personalities deviate so much from their original roles that they ended up resembling their namesakes InNameOnly and [[AHellOfATime undervalued the horrors of Hell]].
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* GottaShipEmAll: Every major character from both series has been shipped with every other from at least their own series and some from the other one, plus a good number of minor and supporting characters who are shipped with them and amongst themselves. Basicaly, if two (or more) characters exist, you can bet that ''somebody'' ships them, whether seriously or ironically.

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* GottaShipEmAll: Every major character from both series has been shipped with every other from at least their own series and some from the other one, plus a good number of minor and supporting characters who are shipped with them and amongst themselves. Basicaly, themselves, no matter if any of these characters [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight have never met]], [[FoeYayShipping are mortal enemies]] or [[IncompatibleOrientation show no sexual interest in each other's gender]]. Basically, if two (or more) characters exist, you can bet that ''somebody'' ships them, whether seriously or ironically.
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* GottaShipEmAll: Every major character from both series has been shipped with every other from at least their own series and some from the other one, plus a good number of minor and supporting characters who are shipped with them and amongst themselves. Basicaly, if two (or more) characters exist, you can bet that ''somebody'' ships them, whether seriously or ironically.
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** Hellaverse fans when they go to Hell and {{Satan}} isn't a quirky {{Twink}} (or some variation thereupon) [[labelnote:Explanation]]A meme so ubiquitous it borders on a StockJoke poking fun at the Hellaverse's extremely unorthodox (and in some cases [[AHellOfATime relatively benign]]) depiction of {{Hell}} as not a place of eternal torment and suffering but [[WorldOfSnark sassiness]] and [[CastFullOfGay homosexuality]]. Part of the BlackComedy of this joke comes from implicitly stating that Hellaverse fans will burn in hell.[[/labelnote]]

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** Hellaverse fans when they go to Hell and {{Satan}} isn't a quirky {{Twink}} [[TheTwink twink]] (or some variation thereupon) [[labelnote:Explanation]]A meme so ubiquitous it borders on a StockJoke poking fun at the Hellaverse's extremely unorthodox (and in some cases [[AHellOfATime relatively benign]]) depiction of {{Hell}} as not a place of eternal torment and suffering but [[WorldOfSnark sassiness]] and [[CastFullOfGay homosexuality]]. Part of the BlackComedy of this joke comes from implicitly stating that Hellaverse fans will burn in hell.[[/labelnote]]
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: A common rising criticism that most detractors, and even some fans had with ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' and season 2 of ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'' is how the writing was handled, which including some of the problems like [[TheChrisCarterEffect adding unresolved plot points]], [[CerebusRollercoaster tonal whiplash]], and the episodes taking a [[PlotDetour detour away from the main story]]. Even as far back as [[Recap/HazbinHotelS1E0ThatsEntertainment the pilot]] of ''Hazbin Hotel'', these aspects have been intrinsic to the overall tone of the Hellaverse (e.g. "[[Recap/HelluvaBossS1E2LooLooLand Loo Loo Land]]" being a whirlwind of character-focused drama, wordbuilding and MoodWhiplash jokes). However, fans were more willing to forgive any perceived cracks in the narrative because the overall episodic story of ''Helluva Boss'' was still quite strong and ''Hazbin'' was still in its gestation period with only a pilot episode and some ancillary material to work with. Complaints about the narratives of both shows became much stronger after ''Helluva Boss'' had established itself well into its second season and ''Hazbin Hotel'' became a fully-fledged animated TV show, due to the overall universe and characters being better established and less mercurial and speculative.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: A common rising criticism that most detractors, and even some fans many people had with ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' and season 2 of ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'' is how the writing was handled, which including some of the problems like [[TheChrisCarterEffect adding unresolved plot points]], [[CerebusRollercoaster tonal whiplash]], and the episodes taking a [[PlotDetour detour away from the main story]]. Even as far back as [[Recap/HazbinHotelS1E0ThatsEntertainment the pilot]] of ''Hazbin Hotel'', these aspects have been intrinsic to the overall tone of the Hellaverse (e.g. "[[Recap/HelluvaBossS1E2LooLooLand Loo Loo Land]]" being a whirlwind of character-focused drama, wordbuilding and MoodWhiplash jokes). However, fans were more willing to forgive any perceived cracks in the narrative because the overall episodic story of ''Helluva Boss'' was still quite strong and ''Hazbin'' was still in its gestation period with only a pilot episode and some ancillary material to work with. Complaints about the narratives of both shows became much stronger after ''Helluva Boss'' had established itself well into its second season and ''Hazbin Hotel'' became a fully-fledged animated TV show, due to the overall universe and characters being better established and less mercurial and speculative.
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: A common rising criticism that most detractors, and even some fans had with ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' and season 2 of ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'' is how the writing was handled which including some of the problems like [[TheChrisCarterEffect adding unresolved plot points]], [[CerebusRollercoaster tonal whiplash]], and sometimes the episodes may ended taking a [[PlotDetour detour away from the main story]]. Even as far back as the pilot of Hazbin Hotel and Season 1 of Helluva Boss has the problem with the writing in the past. The "Pilot" of Hazbin Hotel had a moment when Vaggie InfoDump all the information of how Hell works and the overlord without warning after Alastor was introduced, "Loo Loo Land" adding increase in character-based drama alongside greater focus on Stolas and Blitzo's relationship at the expense of the other characters, "Truth Seekers" has a tonal whiplash shortly after a fight with the Agents of D.H.O.R.K.s when Moxxie ended up being a punch bag after a chat with Blitz. While this caused some to rose a eyebrow at these moments, for many this was not much of a issue because these aspects are well-balanced as it gives some time to fleshed out the lore, charcters are world building of the universe they are in. However when Helluva Boss entered the second season and Hazbin Hotel being picked up by A24 and Amazon, new writers like Adam Neylan and Stein, Rachel Kaplan and Ariel Ladensohn with the latter two and Kaplan being well known for more comedic, episodic skits does not really work in a show that started to had world building and more serialized in contrast to the series like "WesternAnimation/BoJackHorseman" and "WesternAnimation/HarleyQuinn2019".

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: A common rising criticism that most detractors, and even some fans had with ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' and season 2 of ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'' is how the writing was handled handled, which including some of the problems like [[TheChrisCarterEffect adding unresolved plot points]], [[CerebusRollercoaster tonal whiplash]], and sometimes the episodes may ended taking a [[PlotDetour detour away from the main story]]. Even as far back as [[Recap/HazbinHotelS1E0ThatsEntertainment the pilot pilot]] of Hazbin Hotel and Season 1 of Helluva Boss has the problem with the writing in the past. The "Pilot" of Hazbin Hotel had a moment when Vaggie InfoDump all the information of how Hell works and the overlord without warning after Alastor was introduced, "Loo Loo Land" adding increase in character-based drama alongside greater focus on Stolas and Blitzo's relationship at the expense of the other characters, "Truth Seekers" has a tonal whiplash shortly after a fight with the Agents of D.H.O.R.K.s when Moxxie ended up being a punch bag after a chat with Blitz. While this caused some to rose a eyebrow at these moments, for many this was not much of a issue because ''Hazbin Hotel'', these aspects are well-balanced as it gives some time have been intrinsic to fleshed out the lore, charcters are world building overall tone of the universe they are in. However when Helluva Boss entered Hellaverse (e.g. "[[Recap/HelluvaBossS1E2LooLooLand Loo Loo Land]]" being a whirlwind of character-focused drama, wordbuilding and MoodWhiplash jokes). However, fans were more willing to forgive any perceived cracks in the narrative because the overall episodic story of ''Helluva Boss'' was still quite strong and ''Hazbin'' was still in its gestation period with only a pilot episode and some ancillary material to work with. Complaints about the narratives of both shows became much stronger after ''Helluva Boss'' had established itself well into its second season and Hazbin Hotel being picked up by A24 and Amazon, new writers like Adam Neylan and Stein, Rachel Kaplan and Ariel Ladensohn with the latter two and Kaplan being well known for more comedic, episodic skits does not really work in ''Hazbin Hotel'' became a show that started to had world building and more serialized in contrast fully-fledged animated TV show, due to the series like "WesternAnimation/BoJackHorseman" overall universe and "WesternAnimation/HarleyQuinn2019".characters being better established and less mercurial and speculative.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin:
** A common rising criticism that most detractors, and even some fans had with ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' and season 2 of ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'' is how the writing was handled which including some of the problems like [[TheChrisCarterEffect adding unresolved plot points]], [[CerebusRollercoaster tonal whiplash]], and sometimes the episodes may ended taking a [[PlotDetour detour away from the main story]]. Even as far back as the pilot of Hazbin Hotel and Season 1 of Helluva Boss has the problem with the writing in the past. The "Pilot" of Hazbin Hotel had a moment when Vaggie InfoDump all the information of how Hell works and the overlord without warning after Alastor was introduced, "Loo Loo Land" adding increase in character-based drama alongside greater focus on Stolas and Blitzo's relationship at the expense of the other characters, "Truth Seekers" has a tonal whiplash shortly after a fight with the Agents of D.H.O.R.K.s when Moxxie ended up being a punch bag after a chat with Blitz. While this caused some to rose a eyebrow at these moments, for many this was not much of a issue because these aspects are well-balanced as it gives some time to fleshed out the lore, charcters are world building of the universe they are in. However when Helluva Boss entered the second season and Hazbin Hotel being picked up by A24 and Amazon, new writers like Adam Neylan and Stein, Rachel Kaplan and Ariel Ladensohn with the latter two and Kaplan being well known for more comedic, episodic skits does not really work in a show that started to had world building and more serialized in contrast to the series like "WesternAnimation/BoJackHorseman" and "WesternAnimation/HarleyQuinn2019".

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FranchiseOriginalSin: A common rising criticism that most detractors, and even some fans had with ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' and season 2 of ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'' is how the writing was handled which including some of the problems like [[TheChrisCarterEffect adding unresolved plot points]], [[CerebusRollercoaster tonal whiplash]], and sometimes the episodes may ended taking a [[PlotDetour detour away from the main story]]. Even as far back as the pilot of Hazbin Hotel and Season 1 of Helluva Boss has the problem with the writing in the past. The "Pilot" of Hazbin Hotel had a moment when Vaggie InfoDump all the information of how Hell works and the overlord without warning after Alastor was introduced, "Loo Loo Land" adding increase in character-based drama alongside greater focus on Stolas and Blitzo's relationship at the expense of the other characters, "Truth Seekers" has a tonal whiplash shortly after a fight with the Agents of D.H.O.R.K.s when Moxxie ended up being a punch bag after a chat with Blitz. While this caused some to rose a eyebrow at these moments, for many this was not much of a issue because these aspects are well-balanced as it gives some time to fleshed out the lore, charcters are world building of the universe they are in. However when Helluva Boss entered the second season and Hazbin Hotel being picked up by A24 and Amazon, new writers like Adam Neylan and Stein, Rachel Kaplan and Ariel Ladensohn with the latter two and Kaplan being well known for more comedic, episodic skits does not really work in a show that started to had world building and more serialized in contrast to the series like "WesternAnimation/BoJackHorseman" and "WesternAnimation/HarleyQuinn2019".
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** A common rising criticism that most detractors, and even some fans had with ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' and season 2 of ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'' is how the writing was handled which including some of the problems like [[TheChrisCarterEffect adding unresolved plot points]], [[CerebusRollercoaster tonal whiplash]], and sometimes the episodes may ended taking a [[PlotDetour detour away from the main story]]. Even as far back as the pilot of Hazbin Hotel and Season 1 of Helluva Boss has the problem with the writing in the past. The "Pilot" of Hazbin Hotel had a moment when Vaggie InfoDump all the information of how Hell works and the overlord without warning after Alastor was introduced, "Loo Loo Land" adding increase in character-based drama alongside greater focus on Stolas and Blitzo's relationship at the expense of the other characters, "Truth Seekers" has a tonal whiplash shortly after a fight with the Agents of DHORKs when Moxxie ended up being a punch bag after a chat with Blitz. While this caused some to rose a eyebrow at these moments, for many this was not much of a issue because these aspects are well-balanced as it gives some time to fleshed out the lore, charcters are world building of the universe they are in. However when Helluva Boss entered the second season and Hazbin Hotel being picked up by A24 and Amazon, new writers like Adam Neylan and Stein, Rachel Kaplan and Ariel Ladensohn with the latter two and Kaplan being well known for more comedic, episodic skits does not really work in a show that started to had world building and more serialized in contrast to the series like "WesternAnimation/BoJackHorseman" and "WesternAnimation/HarleyQuinn2019".

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** A common rising criticism that most detractors, and even some fans had with ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' and season 2 of ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'' is how the writing was handled which including some of the problems like [[TheChrisCarterEffect adding unresolved plot points]], [[CerebusRollercoaster tonal whiplash]], and sometimes the episodes may ended taking a [[PlotDetour detour away from the main story]]. Even as far back as the pilot of Hazbin Hotel and Season 1 of Helluva Boss has the problem with the writing in the past. The "Pilot" of Hazbin Hotel had a moment when Vaggie InfoDump all the information of how Hell works and the overlord without warning after Alastor was introduced, "Loo Loo Land" adding increase in character-based drama alongside greater focus on Stolas and Blitzo's relationship at the expense of the other characters, "Truth Seekers" has a tonal whiplash shortly after a fight with the Agents of DHORKs D.H.O.R.K.s when Moxxie ended up being a punch bag after a chat with Blitz. While this caused some to rose a eyebrow at these moments, for many this was not much of a issue because these aspects are well-balanced as it gives some time to fleshed out the lore, charcters are world building of the universe they are in. However when Helluva Boss entered the second season and Hazbin Hotel being picked up by A24 and Amazon, new writers like Adam Neylan and Stein, Rachel Kaplan and Ariel Ladensohn with the latter two and Kaplan being well known for more comedic, episodic skits does not really work in a show that started to had world building and more serialized in contrast to the series like "WesternAnimation/BoJackHorseman" and "WesternAnimation/HarleyQuinn2019".
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* FranchiseOriginalSin:
** A common rising criticism that most detractors, and even some fans had with ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' and season 2 of ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'' is how the writing was handled which including some of the problems like [[TheChrisCarterEffect adding unresolved plot points]], [[CerebusRollercoaster tonal whiplash]], and sometimes the episodes may ended taking a [[PlotDetour detour away from the main story]]. Even as far back as the pilot of Hazbin Hotel and Season 1 of Helluva Boss has the problem with the writing in the past. The "Pilot" of Hazbin Hotel had a moment when Vaggie InfoDump all the information of how Hell works and the overlord without warning after Alastor was introduced, "Loo Loo Land" adding increase in character-based drama alongside greater focus on Stolas and Blitzo's relationship at the expense of the other characters, "Truth Seekers" has a tonal whiplash shortly after a fight with the Agents of DHORKs when Moxxie ended up being a punch bag after a chat with Blitz. While this caused some to rose a eyebrow at these moments, for many this was not much of a issue because these aspects are well-balanced as it gives some time to fleshed out the lore, charcters are world building of the universe they are in. However when Helluva Boss entered the second season and Hazbin Hotel being picked up by A24 and Amazon, new writers like Adam Neylan and Stein, Rachel Kaplan and Ariel Ladensohn with the latter two and Kaplan being well known for more comedic, episodic skits does not really work in a show that started to had world building and more serialized in contrast to the series like "WesternAnimation/BoJackHorseman" and "WesternAnimation/HarleyQuinn2019".
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** Hellaverse fans when they go to Hell and {{Satan}} isn't a quirky {{Twink}} (or some variation thereupon) [[labelnote:Explanation]]A meme so ubiquitous it borders on a StockJoke poking fun at the Hellaverse's extremely unorthodox (and in some cases [[AHellOfATime relatively benign]]) depiction of {{Hell}} as not a place of eternal torment and suffering but [[WorldOfSnark sassiness]] and [[CastFullOfGay homosexuality]].[[/labelnote]]

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** Hellaverse fans when they go to Hell and {{Satan}} isn't a quirky {{Twink}} (or some variation thereupon) [[labelnote:Explanation]]A meme so ubiquitous it borders on a StockJoke poking fun at the Hellaverse's extremely unorthodox (and in some cases [[AHellOfATime relatively benign]]) depiction of {{Hell}} as not a place of eternal torment and suffering but [[WorldOfSnark sassiness]] and [[CastFullOfGay homosexuality]]. Part of the BlackComedy of this joke comes from implicitly stating that Hellaverse fans will burn in hell.[[/labelnote]]
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** Hellaverse fans when they go to Hell and Satan isn't a quirky {{Twink}} (or some variation thereupon) [[labelnote:Explanation]]A meme so ubiquitous it borders on a StockJoke poking fun at the Hellaverse's extremely unorthodox (and in some cases [[AHellOfATime relatively benign]]) depiction of {{Hell}} as not a place of eternal torment and suffering but [[WorldOfSnark sassiness]] and [[CastFullOfGay homosexuality]].[[/labelnote]]

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** Hellaverse fans when they go to Hell and Satan {{Satan}} isn't a quirky {{Twink}} (or some variation thereupon) [[labelnote:Explanation]]A meme so ubiquitous it borders on a StockJoke poking fun at the Hellaverse's extremely unorthodox (and in some cases [[AHellOfATime relatively benign]]) depiction of {{Hell}} as not a place of eternal torment and suffering but [[WorldOfSnark sassiness]] and [[CastFullOfGay homosexuality]].[[/labelnote]]
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** Hellaverse fans when they go to Hell and Satan isn't a quirky {{Twink}} (or some variation thereupon) [[labelnote:Explanation]]A meme so ubiquitous it borders on a StockJoke poking fun at the Hellaverse's extremely unorthodox (and in some cases [[AHellOfATime relatively benign]]) depiction of {{Hell}} as not a place of eternal torment and suffering but [[WorldOfSnark sassiness]] and [[CastFullOfGay homosexuality]].[[/labelnote]]
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** [Non-Hellaverse character] said [swear word].[[labelnote:Explanation]]The franchise is known for having an entourage of well-established voice actors, many of whom more famously voiced characters in family-friendly media like Creator/StephanieBeatriz (Vaggie) to [[WesternAnimation/{{Encanto}} Mirabel]] or Creator/RichardStevenHorvitz (Moxxie) to [[WesternAnimation/TheGrimAdventuresOfBillyAndMandy Billy]], which just makes the swearing in both shows funnier to fans.[[/labelnote]]
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* FandomEnragingMisconception: In general, a very easy way to make a Hellaverse fan extremely mad and defensive is to claim that [[AnimatedShockComedy the overall humor of the universe consists primarily of rapid-fire swearing and sex jokes]] on par with shows like ''WesternAnimation/{{Brickleberry}}''. While it is true that the Hellaverse is known for its extreme VulgarHumor, saying this to a fan is guaranteed to entail a lecture on how there are many different types of dark and raunchy humor that it displays and invite comparisons to other works which have just as much if not ''more'' profanity and risque humor (''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt'' coming up a lot) which never have this accusation leveled at them.

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* FandomEnragingMisconception: In general, a very easy way to make a Hellaverse fan extremely mad and defensive is to claim that [[AnimatedShockComedy the overall humor of the universe consists primarily of low-effort rapid-fire swearing and sex jokes]] on par with shows like ''WesternAnimation/{{Brickleberry}}''. While it is true that the Hellaverse is known for its extreme VulgarHumor, saying this to a fan is guaranteed to entail a lecture on how there are many different types of dark and raunchy humor that it displays and invite comparisons to other works which have just as much if not ''more'' profanity and risque humor (''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt'' coming up a lot) which never have this accusation leveled at them.
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* MisaimedFandom: Conservative viewers quickly called both shows' [[CastFullOfGays Casts Full of Gay]] to be an "ironic self-own against liberals" due to it depicting LGBT people in hell without any bigots and thinking that those people supposedly went to heaven. This ignores both WordOfGod that where you end up is not judged based on sexual orientation and gender identity, as evidenced by how [[spoiler:the bisexual Sir Pentious manages to ascend to Heaven]], but also how bigots like Katie Killjoy are also down there.

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* MisaimedFandom: Conservative viewers quickly called both shows' [[CastFullOfGays [[CastFullOfGay Casts Full of Gay]] to be an "ironic self-own against liberals" due to it depicting LGBT people in hell without any bigots and thinking that those people supposedly went to heaven. This ignores both WordOfGod that where you end up is not judged based on sexual orientation and gender identity, as evidenced by how [[spoiler:the bisexual Sir Pentious manages to ascend to Heaven]], but also how bigots like Katie Killjoy are also down there.
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* MisaimedFandom: Conservative viewers quickly called both shows' CastFullOfGays to be an "ironic self-own against liberals" due to it depicting LGBT people in hell without any bigots and thinking that those people supposedly went to heaven. This ignores both WordOfGod that where you end up is not judged based on sexual orientation and gender identity, as evidenced by how [[spoiler:the bisexual Sir Pentious manages to ascend to Heaven]], but also how bigots like Katie Killjoy are also down there.

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* MisaimedFandom: Conservative viewers quickly called both shows' CastFullOfGays [[CastFullOfGays Casts Full of Gay]] to be an "ironic self-own against liberals" due to it depicting LGBT people in hell without any bigots and thinking that those people supposedly went to heaven. This ignores both WordOfGod that where you end up is not judged based on sexual orientation and gender identity, as evidenced by how [[spoiler:the bisexual Sir Pentious manages to ascend to Heaven]], but also how bigots like Katie Killjoy are also down there.
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* MisaimedFandom: Conservative viewers quickly called both shows' CastFullOfGays to be an "ironic self-own against liberals" due to it depicting LGBT people in hell without any bigots and thinking that those people supposedly went to heaven. This ignores both WordOfGod that where you end up is not judged based on sexual orientation and gender identity, as evidenced by how [[spoiler:the bisexual Sir Pentious manages to ascend to Heaven]], but also how bigots like Katie Killjoy are also down there.
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* FandomEnragingMisconception: In general, a very easy way to make a Hellaverse fan extremely mad and defensive is to claim that the overall humor of the universe consists primarily of rapid-fire swearing and sex jokes. While it is true that the Hellaverse is known for its extreme VulgarHumor, saying this to a fan is guaranteed to entail a lecture on how there are many different types of dark and raunchy humor that it displays and invite comparisons to other works which have just as much if not ''more'' profanity and risque humor (''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt'' coming up a lot) which never have this accusation leveled at them.

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* FandomEnragingMisconception: In general, a very easy way to make a Hellaverse fan extremely mad and defensive is to claim that [[AnimatedShockComedy the overall humor of the universe consists primarily of rapid-fire swearing and sex jokes.jokes]] on par with shows like ''WesternAnimation/{{Brickleberry}}''. While it is true that the Hellaverse is known for its extreme VulgarHumor, saying this to a fan is guaranteed to entail a lecture on how there are many different types of dark and raunchy humor that it displays and invite comparisons to other works which have just as much if not ''more'' profanity and risque humor (''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt'' coming up a lot) which never have this accusation leveled at them.

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* MemeticMutation: [thing] if it was written by Vivziepop [[labelnote:explanation]] A meme started in December 2023 by the user [=MegaChan=] (though it must be noted that [=MegaChan=]'s original meme was not meant to be malicious but instead tongue in cheek), which basically takes existing media and adds ObligatorySwearing and VulgarHumor as a way to mock Vivziepop's shows for their excessive use of profanity and vulgar jokes. This is particularly despised by ''Franchise/{{Hellaverse}}'' fans for being a percieved ShallowParody. Viv then blocked users that used this format, leading to many users saying that she could not take criticism. [[Creator/TheAutarch Alex Rochon]], the voice actor of Caine from ''WebAnimation/TheAmazingDigitalCircus'', [[https://twitter.com/AlexRochonVA/status/1732491744065827231?t=PQwXZhYyUG6YTRprxcmS3Q&s=19 announced]] that he would not be saying the line "My name is Caine, I'm your bitch" in his video ''[[StaffCreatedFanWork Saying a Lot of Things as Caine]]'' because he doesn't want it to seem like he is dogpiling on her. Many people, including [=MegaChan=], understood where he was coming from.
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[thing] if it was written by Vivziepop [[labelnote:explanation]] A meme started in December 2023 by the user [=MegaChan=] (though it must be noted that [=MegaChan=]'s original meme was not meant to be malicious but instead tongue in cheek), which basically takes existing media and adds ObligatorySwearing and VulgarHumor as a way to mock Vivziepop's shows for their excessive use of profanity and vulgar jokes. This is particularly despised by ''Franchise/{{Hellaverse}}'' fans for being a percieved ShallowParody. Viv then blocked users that used this format, leading to many users saying that she could not take criticism. [[Creator/TheAutarch Alex Rochon]], the voice actor of Caine from ''WebAnimation/TheAmazingDigitalCircus'', [[https://twitter.com/AlexRochonVA/status/1732491744065827231?t=PQwXZhYyUG6YTRprxcmS3Q&s=19 announced]] that he would not be saying the line "My name is Caine, I'm your bitch" in his video ''[[StaffCreatedFanWork Saying a Lot of Things as Caine]]'' because he doesn't want it to seem like he is dogpiling on her. Many people, including [=MegaChan=], understood where he was coming from.
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** Vivienne hates sharks[[labelnote:Explanation]]Fans have taken notice of the fact that in both ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'' and ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'', whenever the protagonists need to slaughter some {{Mooks}} ''en masse'' they almost always wind up being [[ThreateningShark sharklike mobster demons]] unless the plot calls for something specific, leading to jokes that Creator/VivienneMedrano specifically has a prejudice against sharks, similar to the "[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure Araki hates dogs]]" joke.
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* FandomEnragingMisconception: In general, a very easy way to make a Hellaverse fan extremely mad and defensive is to claim that the overall humor of the universe consists primarily of rapid-fire swearing and sex jokes. While it is true that the Hellaverse is known for its extreme VulgarHumor, saying this to fan is guaranteed to entail a lecture on how there are many different types of dark and raunchy humor that it displays and invite comparisons to other works which have just as much if not ''more'' profanity and risque humor (''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt'' coming up a lot) which never have this accusation leveled at them.

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* FandomEnragingMisconception: In general, a very easy way to make a Hellaverse fan extremely mad and defensive is to claim that the overall humor of the universe consists primarily of rapid-fire swearing and sex jokes. While it is true that the Hellaverse is known for its extreme VulgarHumor, saying this to a fan is guaranteed to entail a lecture on how there are many different types of dark and raunchy humor that it displays and invite comparisons to other works which have just as much if not ''more'' profanity and risque humor (''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt'' coming up a lot) which never have this accusation leveled at them.
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* FandomEnragingMisconception: In general, a very easy way to make a Hellaverse fan extremely mad and defensive is to claim that the overall humor of the universe consists primarily of rapid-fire swearing and sex jokes. While it is true that the Hellaverse is known for its extreme VulgarHumor, saying this to fan is guaranteed to entail a lecture on how there are many different types of dark and raunchy humor that it displays and invite comparisons to other works which have just as much if not ''more'' profanity and risque humor (''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt'' coming up a lot) which never have this accusation leveled at them.



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* MemeticMutation: [thing] if it was written by Vivziepop [[labelnote:explanation]] A meme started in December 2023 by the user [=MegaChan=] (though it must be noted that [=MegaChan=]'s original meme was not meant to be malicious but instead tongue in cheek), which basically takes existing media and adds ObligatorySwearing and VulgarHumor as a way to mock Vivziepop's shows for their excessive use of profanity and vulgar jokes. This is particularly despised by fans of the show for this very reason. Viv then blocked users that used this format, leading to many users saying that she could not take criticism. [[Creator/TheAutarch Alex Rochon]], the voice actor of Caine from ''WebAnimation/TheAmazingDigitalCircus'', [[https://twitter.com/AlexRochonVA/status/1732491744065827231?t=PQwXZhYyUG6YTRprxcmS3Q&s=19 announced]] that he would not be saying the line "My name is Caine, I'm your bitch" in his video ''[[StaffCreatedFanWork Saying a Lot of Things as Caine]]'' because he doesn't want it to seem like he is dogpiling on her. Many people, including [=MegaChan=], understood where he was coming from.

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* MemeticMutation: [thing] if it was written by Vivziepop [[labelnote:explanation]] A meme started in December 2023 by the user [=MegaChan=] (though it must be noted that [=MegaChan=]'s original meme was not meant to be malicious but instead tongue in cheek), which basically takes existing media and adds ObligatorySwearing and VulgarHumor as a way to mock Vivziepop's shows for their excessive use of profanity and vulgar jokes. This is particularly despised by ''Franchise/{{Hellaverse}}'' fans of the show for this very reason.being a percieved ShallowParody. Viv then blocked users that used this format, leading to many users saying that she could not take criticism. [[Creator/TheAutarch Alex Rochon]], the voice actor of Caine from ''WebAnimation/TheAmazingDigitalCircus'', [[https://twitter.com/AlexRochonVA/status/1732491744065827231?t=PQwXZhYyUG6YTRprxcmS3Q&s=19 announced]] that he would not be saying the line "My name is Caine, I'm your bitch" in his video ''[[StaffCreatedFanWork Saying a Lot of Things as Caine]]'' because he doesn't want it to seem like he is dogpiling on her. Many people, including [=MegaChan=], understood where he was coming from.
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* MemeticMutation: [thing] if it was written by Vivziepop [[labelnote:explanation]] A meme started in December 2023 by the user [=MegaChan=] (though It most be noted that [=MegaChan=]'s original meme was not meant to be malicious but instead tongue in cheek), which basically takes existing media and adds ObligatorySwearing and VulgarHumor as a way to mock Vivziepop's shows for their excessive use of profanity and vulgar jokes. This is particularly despised by fans of the show for this very reason. Viv then blocked users that used this format, leading to many users saying that she could not take criticism. [[Creator/TheAutarch Alex Rochon]], the voice actor of Caine from ''WebAnimation/TheAmazingDigitalCircus'', [[https://twitter.com/AlexRochonVA/status/1732491744065827231?t=PQwXZhYyUG6YTRprxcmS3Q&s=19 announced]] that he would not be saying the line "My name is Caine, I'm your bitch" in his video ''[[StaffCreatedFanWork Saying a Lot of Things as Caine]]'' because he doesn't want it to seem like he is dogpiling on her. Many people, including [=MegaChan=], understood where he was coming from.

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* MemeticMutation: [thing] if it was written by Vivziepop [[labelnote:explanation]] A meme started in December 2023 by the user [=MegaChan=] (though It most it must be noted that [=MegaChan=]'s original meme was not meant to be malicious but instead tongue in cheek), which basically takes existing media and adds ObligatorySwearing and VulgarHumor as a way to mock Vivziepop's shows for their excessive use of profanity and vulgar jokes. This is particularly despised by fans of the show for this very reason. Viv then blocked users that used this format, leading to many users saying that she could not take criticism. [[Creator/TheAutarch Alex Rochon]], the voice actor of Caine from ''WebAnimation/TheAmazingDigitalCircus'', [[https://twitter.com/AlexRochonVA/status/1732491744065827231?t=PQwXZhYyUG6YTRprxcmS3Q&s=19 announced]] that he would not be saying the line "My name is Caine, I'm your bitch" in his video ''[[StaffCreatedFanWork Saying a Lot of Things as Caine]]'' because he doesn't want it to seem like he is dogpiling on her. Many people, including [=MegaChan=], understood where he was coming from.
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Doesn't really seem like a drastic action due to a vocal minority. As written, it appears that Alex just wanted to be nice.


* MemeticMutation: [thing] if it was written by Vivziepop [[labelnote:explanation]] A meme started in December 2023 by the user [=MegaChan=] (though It most be noted that [=MegaChan=]'s original meme was not meant to be malicious but instead tongue in cheek), which basically takes existing media and adds ObligatorySwearing and VulgarHumor as a way to mock Vivziepop's shows for their excessive use of profanity and vulgar jokes. This is particularly despised by fans of the show for this very reason. Viv then blocked users that used this format, leading to many users saying that she could not take criticism. [[Creator/TheAutarch Alex Rochon]], the voice actor of Caine from ''WebAnimation/TheAmazingDigitalCircus'', [[https://twitter.com/AlexRochonVA/status/1732491744065827231?t=PQwXZhYyUG6YTRprxcmS3Q&s=19 announced]] [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings that he would not be saying the line "My name is Caine, I'm your bitch"]] in his video ''[[StaffCreatedFanWork Saying a Lot of Things as Caine]]'' because he doesn't want it to seem like he is dogpiling on her. Many people, including [=MegaChan=], understood where he was coming from.

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* MemeticMutation: [thing] if it was written by Vivziepop [[labelnote:explanation]] A meme started in December 2023 by the user [=MegaChan=] (though It most be noted that [=MegaChan=]'s original meme was not meant to be malicious but instead tongue in cheek), which basically takes existing media and adds ObligatorySwearing and VulgarHumor as a way to mock Vivziepop's shows for their excessive use of profanity and vulgar jokes. This is particularly despised by fans of the show for this very reason. Viv then blocked users that used this format, leading to many users saying that she could not take criticism. [[Creator/TheAutarch Alex Rochon]], the voice actor of Caine from ''WebAnimation/TheAmazingDigitalCircus'', [[https://twitter.com/AlexRochonVA/status/1732491744065827231?t=PQwXZhYyUG6YTRprxcmS3Q&s=19 announced]] [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings that he would not be saying the line "My name is Caine, I'm your bitch"]] bitch" in his video ''[[StaffCreatedFanWork Saying a Lot of Things as Caine]]'' because he doesn't want it to seem like he is dogpiling on her. Many people, including [=MegaChan=], understood where he was coming from.
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* MemeticMutation: [thing] if it was written by Vivziepop [[labelnote:explanation]] A meme started in December 2023 by the user [=MegaChan=] (though It most be noted that [=MegaChan=]'s original meme was not meant to be malicious but instead tongue in cheek), which basically takes existing media and adds ObligatorySwearing and VulgarHumor as a way to mock Vivziepop's shows for their excessive use of profanity and vulgar jokes. This is particularly despised by fans of the show for this very reason. Viv then blocked users that used this format, leading to many users saying that she could not take criticism. [[Creator/TheAutarch Alex Rochon]], the voice actor of Caine from ''WebAnimation/TheAmazingDigitalCircus'', [[https://twitter.com/AlexRochonVA/status/1732491744065827231?t=PQwXZhYyUG6YTRprxcmS3Q&s=19 announced]] [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings that he would not be saying the line "My name is Caine, I'm your bitch"]] in his video ''[[StaffCreatedFanWork Saying a Lot of Things as Caine]]'' because he doesn't want it to seem like he is dogpiling on her. Many people, including [=MegaChan=], understood where he was coming from.
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