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* AdaptationDisplacement: The musical and film are more known than the original short story. There was also a French film made of the story in 1948 which is practically unheard of.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: The musical and film are more known than the original short story. There was also a French film made of the story in 1948 which is practically unheard of.of (it is included as bonus content on this film's Blu-Ray).
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** Honoré is depicted as a charming old bon vivant, but he's the one who encourages Gaston to publicly humiliate Lianne, when his nephew would have been happy to write her a note breaking it off, and prefers to have love affairs with women far younger than himself.
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** Honoré is depicted as a charming old bon vivant, but he's the one who encourages Gaston to publicly humiliate Lianne, Lianne when his nephew would have been happy to write her a note breaking their arrangement off and leaving it off, at that, and prefers to have love affairs with women far younger than himself.
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* FridgeHorror: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honoré were lovers - and that she left him. So there's a very real chance that Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his granddaughter and Gaston’s first cousin once removed. ''[[SurpriseIncest Whoops.]]''
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* FridgeHorror: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honoré were lovers - and lovers—and that she left him. So there's a very real chance that Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his granddaughter and Gaston’s first cousin once removed. ''[[SurpriseIncest Whoops.]]''
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* MemeticMutation: The opening number, "Thank Heaven for Little Girls"
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* MemeticMutation: The opening number, "Thank Heaven for Little Girls"Girls".
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** Honoré is depicted as a charming old bon vivant, but he's the one who encourages Gaston to publicly humiliate Lianne, when his nephew would have been happy to write her a note breaking it off, and prefers to have love affairs with women far younger than himself.
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* MemeticMutation: The opening number, "Thank Heaven for Little Girls"
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* FridgeHorror: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honoré were lovers - and that she left him. So there's a very real chance that Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his granddaughter and Gaston’s first cousin once removed. ''[[SurpriseIncest Whoops.]]''
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* ValuesDissonance: ''Lots.'' The men celebrate driving a woman to (attempted) suicide, gossip is the order of the day, and Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt work very hard at training her to be a disposable mistress/professional courtesan. They even negotiate the size of the apartment and number of servants she will get in exchange for her company.
** To be fair, some of this can be explained as DeliberateValuesDissonance. In turn-of-the-century Paris circa La Belle-Époque, courtesan (extremely classy prostitute) was a demi-respectable career that offered women more financial independence and personal freedom than they would have as a wife. Also, a woman’s age of maturity was closer to sixteen than eighteen like it is today in most areas of the world.
** The first real song of the musical has an old man singing about how darling little girls are, because they grow up and become women. This is treated as him being a charming old man. The 2015 revival had to give the song to Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt to make it palatable to a 2010s audience.
** Possible Incest: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honoré were lovers - and that she left him. So Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his granddaughter and Gaston’s first cousin once removed. Whoops.
** To be fair, some of this can be explained as DeliberateValuesDissonance. In turn-of-the-century Paris circa La Belle-Époque, courtesan (extremely classy prostitute) was a demi-respectable career that offered women more financial independence and personal freedom than they would have as a wife. Also, a woman’s age of maturity was closer to sixteen than eighteen like it is today in most areas of the world.
** The first real song of the musical has an old man singing about how darling little girls are, because they grow up and become women. This is treated as him being a charming old man. The 2015 revival had to give the song to Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt to make it palatable to a 2010s audience.
** Possible Incest: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honoré were lovers - and that she left him. So Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his granddaughter and Gaston’s first cousin once removed. Whoops.
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* ValuesDissonance: ''Lots.'' ValuesDissonance:
** The men celebrate driving a woman to (attempted) suicide, gossip is the order of the day, and Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt work very hard at training her to be a disposable mistress/professional courtesan. They even negotiate the size of the apartment and number of servants she will get in exchange for hercompany.
**company. To be fair, some of this can be explained as DeliberateValuesDissonance. In turn-of-the-century Paris circa La Belle-Époque, courtesan (extremely classy prostitute) was a demi-respectable semi-respectable career that offered women more financial independence and personal freedom than they would have as a wife. Also, a woman’s woman's age of maturity was closer to sixteen than eighteen like it is today in most areas of the world.
** The first real song of the musical has an old man singing about how darling little girls are, because they grow up and become women. This is treated as him being a charming old man. The 2015 revivalhad to give gave the song to Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt to make it palatable to a 2010s audience.
** Possible Incest: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honoré were lovers - and that she left him. So Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his granddaughter and Gaston’s first cousin once removed. Whoops.palatable.
** The men celebrate driving a woman to (attempted) suicide, gossip is the order of the day, and Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt work very hard at training her to be a disposable mistress/professional courtesan. They even negotiate the size of the apartment and number of servants she will get in exchange for her
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** The first real song of the musical has an old man singing about how darling little girls are, because they grow up and become women. This is treated as him being a charming old man. The 2015 revival
** Possible Incest: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honoré were lovers - and that she left him. So Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his granddaughter and Gaston’s first cousin once removed. Whoops.
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*UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Related to the values dissonance below, most everyone in the film is so catty and shallow that it’s hard to like them:
**Gaston humiliates Lianne, driving her to ''attempted suicide'', when he finds out she was seeing someone else. This would be a dick move normally, but also Lianne is a '''courtesan''', so it makes no sense why Gaston would get so jealous and possessive over an inherently meaningless relationship. He does this again when Gigi starts acting like a courtesan towards the end, dragging her out of the restaurant and making her cry. What exactly did he expect her to act like, given her influences?
**Gigi’s aunt and Grandmother groom her to be a high-class sex toy, insulting her at every turn just for being herself. They shame her mother, too, for daring to leave the profession.
**Gaston humiliates Lianne, driving her to ''attempted suicide'', when he finds out she was seeing someone else. This would be a dick move normally, but also Lianne is a '''courtesan''', so it makes no sense why Gaston would get so jealous and possessive over an inherently meaningless relationship. He does this again when Gigi starts acting like a courtesan towards the end, dragging her out of the restaurant and making her cry. What exactly did he expect her to act like, given her influences?
**Gigi’s aunt and Grandmother groom her to be a high-class sex toy, insulting her at every turn just for being herself. They shame her mother, too, for daring to leave the profession.
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** To be fair, some of this can be explained as DeliberateValuesDissonance. In turn-of-the-century Paris circa La Belle-Époque, some of the only social and financial freedom women got ''were'' as courtesans (extremely classy prostitutes). Also, a woman’s age of maturity was closer to sixteen than eighteen like it is today in most areas of the world.
** The first real song of the musical has an old man singing about how darling little girls are, because of their potential to grow up and become adults. This is treated as him being a charming old man. The 2015 revival had to give the song to Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt to make it palatable to a 2010s audience.
** The first real song of the musical has an old man singing about how darling little girls are, because of their potential to grow up and become adults. This is treated as him being a charming old man. The 2015 revival had to give the song to Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt to make it palatable to a 2010s audience.
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** To be fair, some of this can be explained as DeliberateValuesDissonance. In turn-of-the-century Paris circa La Belle-Époque, some of the only social and financial freedom women got ''were'' as courtesans courtesan (extremely classy prostitutes).prostitute) was a demi-respectable career that offered women more financial independence and personal freedom than they would have as a wife. Also, a woman’s age of maturity was closer to sixteen than eighteen like it is today in most areas of the world.
** The first real song of the musical has an old man singing about how darling little girls are, becauseof their potential to they grow up and become adults.women. This is treated as him being a charming old man. The 2015 revival had to give the song to Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt to make it palatable to a 2010s audience.
** The first real song of the musical has an old man singing about how darling little girls are, because
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* MemeticMolestor: Honoré can come off this way, mostly due to the amount of ValuesDissonance surrounding "Thank Heaven for Little Girls."
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* MemeticMolestor: MemeticMolester: Honoré can come off this way, mostly due to the amount of ValuesDissonance surrounding "Thank Heaven for Little Girls."
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* MemeticMolestor: Honoré can come off this way, mostly due to the amount of ValuesDissonance surrounding "Thank Heaven for Little Girls."
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** Let’s also try and get in the mindset of turn-of-the-century, 1900 Paris, La Belle-Époque; lots of partying, some of the only social and financial freedom women got WERE as courtesans (extremely classy prostitutes), and a woman’s age of maturity was more like 16 than 18 like it is today in most areas of the world. Historical context matters when it comes to understanding a story.
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** Let’s also try and get in the mindset To be fair, some of turn-of-the-century, 1900 Paris, this can be explained as DeliberateValuesDissonance. In turn-of-the-century Paris circa La Belle-Époque; lots of partying, Belle-Époque, some of the only social and financial freedom women got WERE ''were'' as courtesans (extremely classy prostitutes), and prostitutes). Also, a woman’s age of maturity was more like 16 closer to sixteen than 18 eighteen like it is today in most areas of the world. Historical context matters when it comes to understanding a story.world.
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** Possible Incest: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honore' were lovers - and that she left him. So Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his granddaughter and Gaston’s first cousin once removed. Whoops.
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** Possible Incest: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honore' Honoré were lovers - and that she left him. So Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his granddaughter and Gaston’s first cousin once removed. Whoops.
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* ValuesDissonance: ''Lots.'' The men celebrate driving a woman to (attempted) suicide, gossip is the order of the day, and Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt work very hard at training her to be a disposable mistress. They even negotiate the size of the apartment and number of servants she will get in exchange for her virginity.
** The first real song of the musical has an old man singing about how awesome little girls are, because of their potential to grow up and become hot. This is treated as him being a charming wit, and not a pedophile. The 2015 revival had to give the song to Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt to make it palatable to a 2010s audience.
** Possible Incest: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honore' were lovers - and that she left him. So Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his granddaughter and Max's first cousin once removed. Whoops.
** The first real song of the musical has an old man singing about how awesome little girls are, because of their potential to grow up and become hot. This is treated as him being a charming wit, and not a pedophile. The 2015 revival had to give the song to Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt to make it palatable to a 2010s audience.
** Possible Incest: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honore' were lovers - and that she left him. So Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his granddaughter and Max's first cousin once removed. Whoops.
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* ValuesDissonance: ''Lots.'' The men celebrate driving a woman to (attempted) suicide, gossip is the order of the day, and Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt work very hard at training her to be a disposable mistress. mistress/professional courtesan. They even negotiate the size of the apartment and number of servants she will get in exchange for her virginity.
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** Let’s also try and get in the mindset of turn-of-the-century, 1900 Paris, La Belle-Époque; lots of partying, some of the only social and financial freedom women got WERE as courtesans (extremely classy prostitutes), and a woman’s age of maturity was more like 16 than 18 like it is today in most areas of the world. Historical context matters when it comes to understanding a story.
** The first real song of the musical has an old man singing about howawesome darling little girls are, because of their potential to grow up and become hot. adults. This is treated as him being a charming wit, and not a pedophile.old man. The 2015 revival had to give the song to Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt to make it palatable to a 2010s audience.
** Possible Incest: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honore' were lovers - and that she left him. So Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his granddaughter andMax's Gaston’s first cousin once removed. Whoops.
** Let’s also try and get in the mindset of turn-of-the-century, 1900 Paris, La Belle-Époque; lots of partying, some of the only social and financial freedom women got WERE as courtesans (extremely classy prostitutes), and a woman’s age of maturity was more like 16 than 18 like it is today in most areas of the world. Historical context matters when it comes to understanding a story.
** The first real song of the musical has an old man singing about how
** Possible Incest: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honore' were lovers - and that she left him. So Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his granddaughter and
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** Possible Incest: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honore' were lovers - and that she left him. So Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his grand daughter. Whoops.
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** Possible Incest: During "I Remember It Well" it is revealed that Grandmama and Honore' were lovers - and that she left him. So Mama the opera singer could be his child, and thus Gigi his grand daughter.granddaughter and Max's first cousin once removed. Whoops.
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** The first real song of the musical has an old man singing about how awesome little girls are, because of their potential to grow up and become hot. This is treated as him being a charming wit, and not a pedophile.
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** The first real song of the musical has an old man singing about how awesome little girls are, because of their potential to grow up and become hot. This is treated as him being a charming wit, and not a pedophile. The 2015 revival had to give the song to Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt to make it palatable to a 2010s audience.
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* ValuesDissonance: Lots. The men celebrate driving a woman to (attempted) suicide, gossip is the order of the day, and Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt work very hard at training her to be a disposable mistress. They even negotiate the size of the apartment and number of servants she will get in exchange for her virginity.
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* ValuesDissonance: Lots. ''Lots.'' The men celebrate driving a woman to (attempted) suicide, gossip is the order of the day, and Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt work very hard at training her to be a disposable mistress. They even negotiate the size of the apartment and number of servants she will get in exchange for her virginity.
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* UnfortunateImplications: "Thank Heaven for Little Girls" is more than a little creepy if you think about it too much.
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* ValuesDissonance: Lots. The men celebrate driving a woman to (attempted) suicide, gossip is the order of the day, and Gigi's grandmother and grand-aunt work very hard at training her to be a disposable mistress. They even negotiate the size of the apartment and number of servants she will get in exchange for her virginity.
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** Except for the fact that the song is mostly about how delightful and surprising it is when little girls grow up into young women.
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