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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Effort is made to flesh out and humanize Princess Irulan more than the novels originally did, producing a three-dimensional character who met Paul before the trouble started and is ever more horrified as she slowly unearths her father's machinations through the weak link of Feyd-Rautha... but it ultimately doesn't change her fate at the end of the series, [[{{Padding}} making it feel like pointless filler in the second episode]].
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** With the advent of ''Film/Dune2021'', much the same still applies. While the new big-budget movie is praised for its casting, being [[TruerToTheText truer to the novel]] than the first attempt, being Part One of a [[Film/DunePartTwo duology]], and the advances in special effects means it outstrips the previous two versions in that regard, the miniseries is a bit left out in the cold due to all the hype. But many book fans still appreciate how it manages to hew closer to more of the novel's story and characterizations than either movie did in the areas they cover, like with some iconic characters. This continues to apply after ''Dune: Part Two'' came out with more key and radical changes, so that all in all, the miniseries surprisingly ends up being the most TruerToTheText of the three live-action versions. Some also prefer the mood or feel of the miniseries (and the Lynch movie) to the new ones, as both can be described as more "vibrant" or "warmer" while the newer movies may come off as relatively "colder" with their somewhat muted colors and some of their more restrained performances.

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** With the advent of ''Film/Dune2021'', ''[[Film/Dune2021 Dune: Part One]]'', much the same still applies. While the new big-budget movie is praised for its casting, being [[TruerToTheText truer to the novel]] than the first attempt, being Part One ''Part One'' of a [[Film/DunePartTwo duology]], and the advances in special effects means it outstrips the previous two versions in that regard, the miniseries is a bit left out in the cold due to all the hype. But many book fans still appreciate how it manages to hew closer to more of the novel's story and characterizations than either movie did in the areas they cover, like with some iconic characters. This continues to apply after ''Dune: Part Two'' ''Film/DunePartTwo'' came out with more key and radical changes, so that all in all, the miniseries surprisingly ends up being the most TruerToTheText of the three live-action versions. Some also prefer the mood or feel of the miniseries (and the Lynch movie) to the new ones, as both can be described as more "vibrant" or "warmer" while the newer movies may come off as relatively "colder" with their somewhat muted colors and some of their more restrained performances.
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* QuestionableCasting: Paul Atreides was 15 in the first book, while his actor Alec Newman was 26 at the time. Which is more or less the same age Creator/KyleMacLachlan and Creator/TimotheeChalamet (25) had when they portayed Paul in their respective movies, but they had the benefit of being OlderThanTheyLook and passing believably as at least late-teens. The same can't be said of Alec, making his moments where he acts like an insecure teenager hard to take seriously.

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* QuestionableCasting: Paul Atreides was 15 in the first book, while his actor Alec Newman Creator/AlecNewman was 26 at the time. Which is more or less the same age Creator/KyleMacLachlan and Creator/TimotheeChalamet (25) had when they portayed Paul in their respective movies, but they had the benefit of being OlderThanTheyLook and passing believably as at least late-teens. The same can't be said of Alec, making his moments where he acts like an insecure teenager hard to take seriously.
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** The Spacing Guild spokesman at the end: "The Guilllld. Does not ''take''. Your. Orderssss." Said with [[MilkingTheGiantCow dramatic gestures]]. Right after this, Alia even giggles a little. Right before and after the guy speaks, he and all the other Guildsmen are even FingerTenting.

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** The Spacing Guild spokesman at the end: "The "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRy18Euw6W4 The Guilllld. Does not ''take''.TAKE... Your. Orderssss." ]]" Said with [[MilkingTheGiantCow dramatic gestures]]. Right after this, Alia even giggles a little. Right before and after the guy speaks, he and all the other Guildsmen are even FingerTenting.

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* CompleteMonster: [[FatBastard Baron Vladimir Harkonnen]] is the disgustingly vile ruler of House Harkonnen. Seeking to acquire access to the [[FantasticDrug Spice]] to [[GalacticConqueror further his rule across the universe]], Harkonnen sets up shop on the Spice planet Arrakis, using his dimwitted nephew Rabban to submit the planet's inhabitants, the Fremen, to his whim through murder and fear, even having the Fremen hunted for sport. Hoping to have Rabban murdered by his "handsome" nephew Feyd-Rautha in order to gain the Fremens' trust, Harkonnen has many young slaves [[InvoluntaryBattleToTheDeath forced to fight Feyd]] in an arena for his viewing pleasure, with over a hundred dying by Feyd's hands, with Harkonnen even forcing some to sleep with him. Helping the Emperor orchestrate the destruction of House Atreides out of spite, even giving orders to TakeNoPrisoners, Harkonnen forces Dr. Yeuh to help him in return for his wife's freedom, only to reveal he murdered her beforehand and killing Yeuh afterward. Taking part in the Fremen genocide to crush their rebellion, despite perishing at the hands of his granddaughter Alia, Harkonnen returns many years later to possess Alia as an act of revenge, turning her into a paranoid dictator who attempts to have her mother and nephews assassinated.
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** The '84 film had to use a post-production effect to create the blue-within-blue eyes of the Fremen, which made them appear to glow blue. The miniseries leans into the glowing blue eyes, such that the blue vanishes depending on the intensity and color of light hitting the characters' faces. This somewhat detracts from the visible indicator of Paul's growing power as his eyes grow more blue, indicating his body is absorbing more and more spice to awaken his mental powers.

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** The '84 film had to use a post-production effect to create the blue-within-blue eyes of the Fremen, which made them appear to glow blue. The miniseries leans into the glowing blue eyes, such that the blue vanishes depending on the intensity and color of light hitting the characters' faces.faces (a consequence of using UV-reflective contact lenses and a blacklight as part of the set lighting). This somewhat detracts from the visible indicator of Paul's growing power as his eyes grow more blue, indicating his body is absorbing more and more spice to awaken his mental powers.
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** The miniseries used painted backdrops with piles of sand in front of them for most of the desert scenes. Also, the elaborate and well-crafted backdrops were made at great expense in order to avoid using bluescreen for every exterior. The sand was carefully chosen to match... and then the wrong sand was purchased by mistake, and when it arrived, it ''wasn't the same color'' as the sand in the backdrop. Time and budget having both run out, they were forced to use what they had, with jarring results. It make the series look oftimes like a stage play, which while adding to the surreal quality ''Dune'' possess detracts from it's epic scope.

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** The miniseries used painted backdrops with piles of sand in front of them for most of the desert scenes. Also, the elaborate and well-crafted backdrops were made at great expense in order to avoid using bluescreen for every exterior. The sand was carefully chosen to match... and then the wrong sand was purchased by mistake, and when it arrived, it ''wasn't the same color'' as the sand in the backdrop. Time and budget having both run out, they were forced to use what they had, with jarring results. It make the series look oftimes like a stage play, which while adding to the surreal quality ''Dune'' possess possesses detracts from it's its epic scope.
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** With the advent of ''Film/Dune2021'', much the same still applies. While the new big-budget movie is praised for its casting, being [[TruerToTheText truer to the novel]] than the first attempt, being Part One of a [[Film/DunePartTwo duology]], and the advances in special effects means it outstrips the previous two versions in that regard, the miniseries is a bit left out in the cold due to all the hype. But many book fans still appreciate how it manages to hew closer to more of the novel's story and characterizations than either movie did in the areas they cover, like with some iconic characters. Some also prefer the mood or feel of the miniseries (and the Lynch movie) to the new one, as both can be described as more "vibrant" or "warmer" while the newer movie may come off as relatively "colder" with its somewhat muted colors and some of its more restrained performances.

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** With the advent of ''Film/Dune2021'', much the same still applies. While the new big-budget movie is praised for its casting, being [[TruerToTheText truer to the novel]] than the first attempt, being Part One of a [[Film/DunePartTwo duology]], and the advances in special effects means it outstrips the previous two versions in that regard, the miniseries is a bit left out in the cold due to all the hype. But many book fans still appreciate how it manages to hew closer to more of the novel's story and characterizations than either movie did in the areas they cover, like with some iconic characters. This continues to apply after ''Dune: Part Two'' came out with more key and radical changes, so that all in all, the miniseries surprisingly ends up being the most TruerToTheText of the three live-action versions. Some also prefer the mood or feel of the miniseries (and the Lynch movie) to the new one, ones, as both can be described as more "vibrant" or "warmer" while the newer movie movies may come off as relatively "colder" with its their somewhat muted colors and some of its their more restrained performances.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The 2002 tie-in AdventureGame developped by Cryo Interactive was a failure (both critically and commercially).

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** In the third act, when Paul angrily questions the Fremen custom of "calling out" someone to challenge their authority, the hundreds of Fremen in attendance begin chest-beating and chanting in unison like a group of soccer hooligans. Water then begins [[spoiler: pouring out from the statue ledge upon which Paul is standing.]] The low camera angle when this happens, the Fremen suddenly stopping their chant in awe, and Paul exhaling, makes it look like he [[spoiler:lost control of his bladder]] and is [[spoiler:urinating hundreds of gallons of fluid onto]] his Fremen supporters. That they resume chanting makes the scene even funnier, as if they are [[spoiler:rooting for him to pee on them]].

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** In the third act, when Paul angrily questions the Fremen custom of "calling out" someone to challenge their authority, the hundreds of Fremen in attendance begin chest-beating and chanting in unison like a group of soccer hooligans. Water then begins [[spoiler: pouring out from the statue ledge upon which Paul is standing.]] standing]]. The low camera angle when this happens, the Fremen suddenly stopping their chant in awe, and Paul exhaling, makes it look like he [[spoiler:lost control of his bladder]] and is [[spoiler:urinating hundreds of gallons of fluid onto]] his Fremen supporters. That they resume chanting makes the scene even funnier, as if they are [[spoiler:rooting for him to pee on them]].



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* WTHCastingAgency: Paul Atreides was 15 in the first book, while his actor Alec Newman was 26 at the time. Which is more or less the same age Creator/KyleMacLachlan and Creator/TimotheeChalamet (25) had when they portayed Paul in their respective movies, but they had the benefit of being OlderThanTheyLook and passing believably as at least late-teens. The same can't be said of Alec, making his moments where he acts like an insecure teenager hard to take seriously.
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** With the advent of ''Film/Dune2021'', much the same still applies. While the new big-budget movie is praised for its casting, being truer to the novel than the first attempt, being Part One of a projected duology, and the advances in special effects means it outstrips the previous two versions in that regard, the miniseries is a bit left out in the cold due to all the hype. But many book fans still appreciate how it manages to hew closer to more of the novel's story and characterizations than either movie did in the areas they cover, like with some iconic characters and certain scenes being left out of the new movie and saved for its sequel. Some also prefer the mood or feel of the miniseries (and the Lynch movie) to the new one, as both can be described as more "vibrant" or "warmer" while the newer movie may come off as relatively "colder" with its somewhat muted colors and some of its more restrained performances.

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** With the advent of ''Film/Dune2021'', much the same still applies. While the new big-budget movie is praised for its casting, being [[TruerToTheText truer to the novel novel]] than the first attempt, being Part One of a projected duology, [[Film/DunePartTwo duology]], and the advances in special effects means it outstrips the previous two versions in that regard, the miniseries is a bit left out in the cold due to all the hype. But many book fans still appreciate how it manages to hew closer to more of the novel's story and characterizations than either movie did in the areas they cover, like with some iconic characters and certain scenes being left out of the new movie and saved for its sequel.characters. Some also prefer the mood or feel of the miniseries (and the Lynch movie) to the new one, as both can be described as more "vibrant" or "warmer" while the newer movie may come off as relatively "colder" with its somewhat muted colors and some of its more restrained performances.
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** Just as ''Film/Dune1984'' is one of the most polarizing movies around, it's no surprise that another adaptation of the same novel is similarly divisive and subject to comparisons. On one hand, everyone agrees that this miniseries successfully stays truer to the novel, and the plot results much more understandable to those who are unfamiliar with the books. On the other hand, consensus about everything else is far from unanimous: many fans believe that, casting aside the fidelity to the book, the series is otherwise inferior to the movie. The cast is nowhere as endearing as the one boasted by Creator/DavidLynch: at best is acceptable, at worst is donwright bland. The low budget leads to several SpecialEffectsFailure and WTHCostumingDepartment moments (special mention to the "funny hats"). The pacing is noticeably slower, with certain exposition scenes taking way too much time (though this gets better as the series goes on and can be justified as an attempt not to make the plot again as incomprehensible as it was in the movie). At the end of the day, some feel that the series was so concentrated on sticking to the book that it didn't polish enough everything else.
** With the advent of ''Film/Dune2021'', much the same still applies. While the new big-budget movie is praised for its casting, being truer to the novel than the first attempt, being Part One of a projected duology, and the advances in special effects mean it outstrips the previous two versions in that regard, the miniseries is a bit left out in the cold due to all the hype, but many book fans still appreciate how it still manages to hew closer to more of the novel's story and characterizations than either movie did in the areas they cover, like with some iconic characters and certain scenes being left out of the new movie and saved for its sequel, and some also prefer the mood or feel of the miniseries (and the Lynch movie) to the new one, as both can be described as more "vibrant" or "warmer" while the newer movie may come off as relatively "colder" with its somewhat muted colors and some of its performances.

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** Just as ''Film/Dune1984'' is one of the most polarizing movies around, it's no surprise that another adaptation of the same novel is similarly divisive and subject to comparisons. On one hand, everyone agrees that this miniseries successfully stays truer to the novel, and the plot results becomes much more understandable to those who are unfamiliar with the books. On the other hand, consensus about everything else is far from unanimous: many fans believe that, casting aside the fidelity to the book, the series is otherwise inferior to the movie. The cast is nowhere as endearing as the one boasted by Creator/DavidLynch: at best is acceptable, at worst is donwright bland. The low budget leads to several SpecialEffectsFailure and WTHCostumingDepartment moments (special mention to the "funny hats"). The pacing is noticeably slower, with certain exposition scenes taking way too much time (though this gets better as the series goes on and can be justified as an attempt not to make the plot again as incomprehensible as it was in the movie). At the end of the day, some feel that the series was so concentrated on sticking to the book that it didn't polish enough everything else.
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** With the advent of ''Film/Dune2021'', much the same still applies. While the new big-budget movie is praised for its casting, being truer to the novel than the first attempt, being Part One of a projected duology, and the advances in special effects mean means it outstrips the previous two versions in that regard, the miniseries is a bit left out in the cold due to all the hype, but hype. But many book fans still appreciate how it still manages to hew closer to more of the novel's story and characterizations than either movie did in the areas they cover, like with some iconic characters and certain scenes being left out of the new movie and saved for its sequel, and some sequel. Some also prefer the mood or feel of the miniseries (and the Lynch movie) to the new one, as both can be described as more "vibrant" or "warmer" while the newer movie may come off as relatively "colder" with its somewhat muted colors and some of its more restrained performances.
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* WTHCastingAgency: Paul Atreides was 15 in the first book, while his actor Alec Newman was 26 at the time. Which is more or less the same age Creator/KyleMacLachlan and Creator/TimotheeChalamet (25) had when they portayed Paul in their respective movies, but they had the benefit of being OlderThanTheyLook and passing believably as at least late-teens. The same can't be said of Alec, making his moments where he acts like an insecure teenager hard to take seriously.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In the 1984 film, Paul was completely blasé about the effects of his jihad. In the miniseries, Muad'Dib appropriately sounds [[IDidWhatIHadToDo like he's on the verge of either bursting into tears]] or [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone freaking the fuck out]].

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** Just as ''Film/Dune1984'' is one of the most polarizing movies around, it's no surprise that another adaptation of the same novel is similarly divisive and subject to comparisons. On one hand, everyone agrees that this miniseries successfully stays truer to the novel, presenting a far less confused plot that comes off much more understandable to those unfamiliar with the book. On the other hand, consensus about everything else is far from unanimous, and quite a number of fans believe that, fidelity to the book notwithstanding, the series is otherwise inferior to the movie. The cast, for the most part acceptable at best but downright bland at worst, is undoubtedly considered nowhere as endearing as the one boasted by Creator/DavidLynch, while the lower budget leads to several SpecialEffectsFailure and WTHCostumingDepartment moments (special mention to the "funny hats"), and the pacing is noticeably slower, with certain exposition scenes taking way too much time (though luckily this gets better as the series goes on and can be justified as an attempt not to make the plot again as incomprehensible as it was in the movie). At the end of the day, some feel that the series was so concentrated on sticking to the book that it didn't polish enough everything else.

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** Just as ''Film/Dune1984'' is one of the most polarizing movies around, it's no surprise that another adaptation of the same novel is similarly divisive and subject to comparisons. On one hand, everyone agrees that this miniseries successfully stays truer to the novel, presenting a far less confused and the plot that comes off results much more understandable to those who are unfamiliar with the book. books. On the other hand, consensus about everything else is far from unanimous, and quite a number of unanimous: many fans believe that, casting aside the fidelity to the book notwithstanding, book, the series is otherwise inferior to the movie. The cast, for the most part acceptable at best but downright bland at worst, cast is undoubtedly considered nowhere as endearing as the one boasted by Creator/DavidLynch, while the lower Creator/DavidLynch: at best is acceptable, at worst is donwright bland. The low budget leads to several SpecialEffectsFailure and WTHCostumingDepartment moments (special mention to the "funny hats"), and the hats"). The pacing is noticeably slower, with certain exposition scenes taking way too much time (though luckily this gets better as the series goes on and can be justified as an attempt not to make the plot again as incomprehensible as it was in the movie). At the end of the day, some feel that the series was so concentrated on sticking to the book that it didn't polish enough everything else.

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* BrokenBase: Just as ''Film/Dune1984'' is one of the most polarizing movies around, it's no surprise that another adaptation of the same novel is similarly divisive and subject to comparisons. On one hand, everyone agrees that this miniseries successfully stays truer to the novel, presenting a far less confused plot that comes off much more understandable to those unfamiliar with the book. On the other hand, consensus about everything else is far from unanimous, and quite a number of fans believe that, fidelity to the book notwithstanding, the series is otherwise inferior to the movie. The cast, for the most part acceptable at best but downright bland at worst, is undoubtedly considered nowhere as endearing as the one boasted by Creator/DavidLynch, while the lower budget leads to several SpecialEffectsFailure and WTHCostumingDepartment moments (special mention to the "funny hats"), and the pacing is noticeably slower, with certain exposition scenes taking way too much time (though luckily this gets better as the series goes on and can be justified as an attempt not to make the plot again as incomprehensible as it was in the movie). At the end of the day, some feel that the series was so concentrated on sticking to the book that it didn't polish enough everything else.
** With the advent of ''Film/Dune2021'', much the same still applies. While the new big-budget movie is praised for its casting, being truer to the novel than the first attempt, being Part One of a projected duology, and the advances in special effects means it outstrips the previous two versions in that regard, the miniseries is a bit left out in the cold due to all the hype, but many book fans still appreciate how it still manages to hew closer to more of the novel's story and characterizations than either movie, like with some iconic characters and certain scenes being left out of the new movie and saved for its sequel, and some also prefer the mood or feel of the miniseries (and the Lynch movie) to the new one, as both can be described as more "vibrant" while the newer movie may come off as relatively "colder" with its somewhat muted colors and some of its performances.

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Just as ''Film/Dune1984'' is one of the most polarizing movies around, it's no surprise that another adaptation of the same novel is similarly divisive and subject to comparisons. On one hand, everyone agrees that this miniseries successfully stays truer to the novel, presenting a far less confused plot that comes off much more understandable to those unfamiliar with the book. On the other hand, consensus about everything else is far from unanimous, and quite a number of fans believe that, fidelity to the book notwithstanding, the series is otherwise inferior to the movie. The cast, for the most part acceptable at best but downright bland at worst, is undoubtedly considered nowhere as endearing as the one boasted by Creator/DavidLynch, while the lower budget leads to several SpecialEffectsFailure and WTHCostumingDepartment moments (special mention to the "funny hats"), and the pacing is noticeably slower, with certain exposition scenes taking way too much time (though luckily this gets better as the series goes on and can be justified as an attempt not to make the plot again as incomprehensible as it was in the movie). At the end of the day, some feel that the series was so concentrated on sticking to the book that it didn't polish enough everything else.
** With the advent of ''Film/Dune2021'', much the same still applies. While the new big-budget movie is praised for its casting, being truer to the novel than the first attempt, being Part One of a projected duology, and the advances in special effects means mean it outstrips the previous two versions in that regard, the miniseries is a bit left out in the cold due to all the hype, but many book fans still appreciate how it still manages to hew closer to more of the novel's story and characterizations than either movie, movie did in the areas they cover, like with some iconic characters and certain scenes being left out of the new movie and saved for its sequel, and some also prefer the mood or feel of the miniseries (and the Lynch movie) to the new one, as both can be described as more "vibrant" or "warmer" while the newer movie may come off as relatively "colder" with its somewhat muted colors and some of its performances.

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