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** And then there's Joshua, HandsomeLech who's too busy losing all his money even if he rigs a game, or cheating in order to keep from killing a nun, and also he's [[spoiler:a long-lost prince]]. Those Jehannans, huh?
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** And then there's Joshua, HandsomeLech who's too busy losing all his money even if he rigs a game, game to be malicious, or cheating in order to keep from killing a nun, and also he's [[spoiler:a [[spoiler:the long-lost prince]].prince of Jehanna]]. Those Jehannans, huh?
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** The S-class weapons deal ''ridiculous'' damage to monsters. The game compensates for this by throwing a ''shitton'' of them at you in the final levels.
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** Also [[BareYourMidriff Tethys]], charming dancer.
** And then there's Joshua, HandsomeLech who's too busy losing all his money even if he rigs a game, or cheating in order to keep from killing a nun, and also he's [[spoiler:a long-lost prince]]. Those Jehannans, huh?
** And then there's Joshua, HandsomeLech who's too busy losing all his money even if he rigs a game, or cheating in order to keep from killing a nun, and also he's [[spoiler:a long-lost prince]]. Those Jehannans, huh?
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* HoYay: There's a fair bit in the game, most prominently in the mixture of admiration and rivalry between Ephraim and Lyon and Eirika's RomanticTwoGirlFriendship with both L'Arachel and Tana.
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They\'re both good, don\'t get me wrong, I\'m just posting what the base was broken about. It doesn\'t reflect my opinion.
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* BrokenBase: When the Nintendo3DS rerelease came around, there was some minor consternation over whether ''The Sacred Stones'' was really the best GBA representative for the franchise.
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* BrokenBase: When the Nintendo3DS rerelease came around, there was some minor consternation over whether ''The Sacred Stones'' was really the best GBA representative for the franchise. Most of the people who were complaining wished for ''[[FireEmblemElibe Blazing Sword]]'' instead.
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** Either you think Eirika is fine the way she is for a NaiveNewcomer and that she grows out of her shell of naivete to become a wise princess and a strong ActionGirl, or the game script is sexist for having her [[DistressBall need rescuing]] multiple times while her brother, somehow, defeats an enemy stronghold complete with TheMole and [[BloodKnight Valter]] without a hitch. (Conveniently forgetting that this is the first time Eirika ''ever'' goes into something similar to war, whereas Ephraim has more experience in that sense.)
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** Either you think Eirika is fine the way she is for a NaiveNewcomer and that she grows out of her shell of naivete to become a wise princess and a strong ActionGirl, or the game script is sexist for having her [[DistressBall need rescuing]] multiple times while her brother, somehow, defeats an enemy stronghold complete with TheMole and [[BloodKnight Valter]] without a hitch. (Conveniently forgetting ([[SarcasmMode Conveniently]] [[HypoCrite forgetting]] that this is the first time Eirika ''ever'' goes into something similar to war, whereas Ephraim has more experience in that sense.)
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*** Similarly, some fans tend to view Seth as a sexist asshole who holds Eirika back. ([[DieforOurShip And some of them are Innes fangirls]]). Those who don't jsut believe that Seth is stressed and possibly at a loss after the death of Fado.
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*** Similarly, some fans tend to view Seth as a sexist asshole who holds Eirika back. back and thinks he's entitled to her. ([[DieforOurShip And some of them are resentful Innes fangirls]]). Those who don't jsut just believe that Seth is stressed and possibly at a loss after the death of Fado.Fado, thus he makes decisions and says things he'd likely think over more if not in such a situation.
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** Either you think Eirika is fine the way she is for a NaiveNewcomer and that she develops nicely, or the game script is sexist for having her [[DistressBall need rescuing]] multiple times while her brother, somehow, defeats an enemy stronghold complete with TheMole and [[BloodKnight Valter]] without a hitch.
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** Either you think Eirika is fine the way she is for a NaiveNewcomer and that she develops nicely, grows out of her shell of naivete to become a wise princess and a strong ActionGirl, or the game script is sexist for having her [[DistressBall need rescuing]] multiple times while her brother, somehow, defeats an enemy stronghold complete with TheMole and [[BloodKnight Valter]] without a hitch.hitch. (Conveniently forgetting that this is the first time Eirika ''ever'' goes into something similar to war, whereas Ephraim has more experience in that sense.)
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*** Similarly, some fans tend to view Seth as a sexist asshole who holds Eirika back. ([[DieforOurShip And some of them are Innes fangirls]]). Those who don't jsut believe that Seth is stressed and possibly at a loss after the death of Fado.
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** Either you think Eirika is fine the way she is for a NaiveNewcomer and that she develops nicely, or the game script is sexist for handing her the DistressBall twice.
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** Either you think Eirika is fine the way she is for a NaiveNewcomer and that she develops nicely, or the game script is sexist for handing having her the DistressBall twice.[[DistressBall need rescuing]] multiple times while her brother, somehow, defeats an enemy stronghold complete with TheMole and [[BloodKnight Valter]] without a hitch.
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* FoeYay: Valter, towards both Eirika and Ephraim.
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* OneSceneWonder: Morva makes a badass entrance ta the beginning of his chapter and looks like he may be the EleventhHourRanger. instead, he gets turned into a dracozombie.
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** Either you think Eirika is fine the way she is, or the game script is sexist for handing her the DistressBall multiple times.
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** Either you think Eirika is fine the way she is, is for a NaiveNewcomer and that she develops nicely, or the game script is sexist for handing her the DistressBall multiple times.twice.
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* WhatAnIdiot: So, the king didn't want his children to know that their bracelets were [[spoiler:actually twin portions of a seal on the Demon King]]. In that case, why the hell did he let them wear them like common jewelry? Why didn't anyone express concern when Ephraim was ''stranded in sudden enemy territory'' with one? And Seth, the "right moment" to reveal the truth to Eirika would have been as soon as they were safely away from the castle so she knows not to wear it openly, rather than thinking of it as a bauble that isn't worth allowing the death of a hostage over.
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* WhatAnIdiot: So, the king didn't want his children to know that their bracelets were [[spoiler:actually twin portions of a seal on the Demon King]]. In that case, why ''why the hell did he let them wear them like common jewelry? jewelry''? Why didn't anyone express concern when Ephraim was ''stranded in sudden enemy territory'' with one? And Seth, [[TheLancer you usually have your head well put on your shoulders]]... but [[IdiotBall the "right moment" moment"]] to reveal the truth to Eirika would have been as '''as soon as they were safely away from the castle castle''' so she knows not to wear it openly, rather than thinking of it as a bauble that isn't worth allowing the death of a hostage over.
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** This has become worse ever since her FireEmblemAwakening has her in the Bride class. It doesn't matter that she's still a fighter ''and'' also gains access to staves, HOW DARES THE OFFENSIVE HOBAG WEAR A PRETTY DRESS!
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: A common opinion from fans of the series (as the rest of the series tend more to NintendoHard), given that the freedom to level-grind at any time broke the story mode wide open.
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: A common opinion from fans of the series (as the rest of the series tend more to NintendoHard), given that the freedom to level-grind at any time broke the story mode wide open. [[FridgeLogic Apparently the option to just not level-grind never occurs to them...]]
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** Either you think Eirika is perfectly good the way she is, or the game script is sexist because men want to protect her and she makes mistakes.
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* WhatAnIdiot: So, the king didn't want his children to know that their bracelets were [[spoiler:actually twin portions of a seal on the Demon King]]. In that case, why the hell did he let them wear them like common jewelry? Why didn't anyone express concern when Ephraim was ''stranded in sudden enemy territory'' with one? And Seth, the "right moment" to reveal the truth to Eirika would have been as soon as they were safely away from the castle so she knows not to wear it openly, rather than thinking of it as a bauble that isn't worth allowing the death of a hostage over.
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* BaseBreaker:
** Either you think Eirika is perfectly good the way she is, or the game script is sexist because men want to protect her and she makes mistakes.
** Innes is either a {{Jerkass}} or a JerkWithAHeartOfGold depending on who you talk to. Though this usually depends on [[DieForOurShip who you ship Eirika with]].
** The game itself among the FireEmblem fandom; detractors say it was too easy and short compared to other games, fans love it for its storyline and worldbuilding and the return of the monsters from FE Gaiden.
** Either you think Eirika is perfectly good the way she is, or the game script is sexist because men want to protect her and she makes mistakes.
** Innes is either a {{Jerkass}} or a JerkWithAHeartOfGold depending on who you talk to. Though this usually depends on [[DieForOurShip who you ship Eirika with]].
** The game itself among the FireEmblem fandom; detractors say it was too easy and short compared to other games, fans love it for its storyline and worldbuilding and the return of the monsters from FE Gaiden.
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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Poor Eirika is often put under the microscope, nitpicked and/or downright ''bashed'' for being a sensitive NiceGirl aside of TheMessiah and the ActionGirl, with some of her haters even ''[[InsaneTrollLogic openly denying that both she and Ephraim are the protagonists of the game]]'' and saying Ephraim is the only lead. WTF.
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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Poor Eirika is often put under the microscope, nitpicked and/or downright ''bashed'' for being a sensitive NiceGirl aside of TheMessiah and the ActionGirl, with some of her haters even ''[[InsaneTrollLogic openly denying that both she and Ephraim are the protagonists of the game]]'' and saying Ephraim is the only lead. WTF.
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** To elaborate, Caellach has a close-combat axe...AND a hand-axe. He hits like a damn truck in either one of them, and not even Ephraim will survive at Lvl. 20. You have two options: hope that one of your units survive his attacks, or take the easy path by summoning mooks to slowly waste the uses for his hand-axe to THEN bombard him with magic from far away.
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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Poor Eirika is often put under the microscope, nitpicked and/or downright ''bashed'' for being a sensitive NiceGirl aside of TheMessiah and the ActionGirl, with some of her haters even ''[[InsaneTrollLogic only denying that both she and Ephraim are the protagonists of the game]]''.
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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Poor Eirika is often put under the microscope, nitpicked and/or downright ''bashed'' for being a sensitive NiceGirl aside of TheMessiah and the ActionGirl, with some of her haters even ''[[InsaneTrollLogic only openly denying that both she and Ephraim are the protagonists of the game]]''.game]]'' and saying Ephraim is the only lead. WTF.
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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Poor Eirika is often put under the microscope, nitpicked and/or downright ''bashed'' for being a sensitive NiceGirl aside of TheMessiah and the ActionGirl, with some of her haters even ''[[InsaneTrollLogic only denying that both she and Ephraim are the protagonists of the game]]''.
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Wrong use of trope. That would only apply if Duessel left the game entirely.
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* ClicheStorm: EvilEmpire, turns out the emperor isn't the main villain but actually the dragon, or even not so evil and are lead by more powerful forces, good generals and ''evil'' generals with ''obvious'' evil ones. There's even a [[MyMasterRightOrWrong loyal general who is a reasonable authority figure but is so loyal they fight you to the death anyways]], and a [[HeelFaceTurn general who is a reasonable authority figure and]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere defects to the heroes' side]].
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* ClicheStorm: EvilEmpire, turns out the emperor isn't the main villain but actually the dragon, or even not so evil and are lead by more powerful forces, good generals and ''evil'' generals with ''obvious'' evil ones. There's even a [[MyMasterRightOrWrong loyal general who is a reasonable authority figure but is so loyal they fight you to the death anyways]], and a [[HeelFaceTurn general who is a reasonable authority figure and]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere defects to the heroes' side]].side.
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** Small aversion with Calleach. Despite the fact that he's an obviously evil person, he's actually the ''least'' evil and is just more machiavelian than Riev and Valter (who practice demon worship and are a BloodKnight, respectively).
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** Small aversion with Calleach.Caellach. Despite the fact that he's an obviously evil person, he's actually the ''least'' evil and is just more machiavelian than Riev and Valter (who practice demon worship and are a BloodKnight, respectively).
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** A majority of the Bonus Characters who have lackluster stats and growths, as well as limited potential.
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* ClicheStorm: EvilEmpire, turns out the emperor isn't the main villain but actually the dragon, or even not so evil and are lead by more powerful forces, good generals and ''evil'' generals with ''obvious'' evil ones. There's even a [[MyMasterRightOrWrong loyal general who is a reasonable authority figure but is so loyal they fight you to the death anyways]], and a [[HeelFaceTurn general who is a reasonable authority figure and]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere defects to the heroes' side]].
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* BrokenBase: When the Nintendo3DS rerelease came around, there was some minor consternation over whether ''The Sacred Stones'' was really the best GBA representative for the franchise.
* ClicheStorm: EvilEmpire, turns out the emperor isn't the main villain but actually the dragon, or even not so evil and are lead by more powerful forces, good generals and ''evil'' generals with ''obvious'' evil ones. There's even a [[MyMasterRightOrWrong loyal general who is a reasonable authority figure but is so loyal they fight you to the death anyways]], and a [[HeelFaceTurn general who is a reasonable authority figure and]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere defects to the heroes' side]].
* ClicheStorm: EvilEmpire, turns out the emperor isn't the main villain but actually the dragon, or even not so evil and are lead by more powerful forces, good generals and ''evil'' generals with ''obvious'' evil ones. There's even a [[MyMasterRightOrWrong loyal general who is a reasonable authority figure but is so loyal they fight you to the death anyways]], and a [[HeelFaceTurn general who is a reasonable authority figure and]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere defects to the heroes' side]].
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: A common opinion from fans of the series (as the rest of the series tend more to NintendoHard).
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: A common opinion from fans of the series (as the rest of the series tend more to NintendoHard).NintendoHard), given that the freedom to level-grind at any time broke the story mode wide open.
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* MemeticBadass: [[strike: Gheb's one of the easiest bosses in one of the easiest FireEmblem games.]] He is invincible, and the "Gheb" one fights as a boss is actually his loser twin brother Gleb. If the actual Gheb were used, the game would be impossible.
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* MemeticBadass: [[strike: Gheb's one of the easiest bosses in one of the easiest FireEmblem games.]] He Gheb is invincible, and the "Gheb" one fights as a boss is actually his loser twin brother Gleb. If the actual Gheb were used, the game would be impossible.
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** MemeticMolester: His weapon in the patch is "Raep Her," for chrissakes!
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** MemeticMolester: His weapon in the said patch is "Raep Her," for chrissakes!
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** Small aversion with Calleach. Despite that he's an obviously evil person; he's actually the ''least'' evil and is just more machiavelian than the other two, who practice demon worship and are a BloodKnight.
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** Small aversion with Calleach. Despite the fact that he's an obviously evil person; person, he's actually the ''least'' evil and is just more machiavelian than the other two, who Riev and Valter (who practice demon worship and are a BloodKnight.BloodKnight, respectively).
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* MoralEventHorizon: Novala from stage 8 gleefully traps several Renais citizens in the mountains to be killed by giant spiders during the fight after they fail to work as hostages for Eirika's surrender. When Eirika is horrified by this display of pointless cruelty, Novala just laughs and says that this is war; any atrocity is fair game as long as you win.
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* TierInducedScrappy: Knoll is HATED for his poor stats and the general weakness of dark magic in this game. Summoners in general are considered the worst overall class, too, though careful use of their summons can prove surprisingly effective.
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* TierInducedScrappy: While loved as a plot character, Knoll is HATED as a playable one for his poor stats and the general weakness of dark magic in this game. Summoners in general are considered the worst overall class, too, though careful use of their summons can prove surprisingly effective.
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* TheWoobie: Knoll, to the point that he actually expresses relief in his death quote. Amelia, who is also a PluckyGirl and refuses to let it get her down. Myrrh, who is already a ShrinkingViolet. The country Grado in general has its forces decimated, 85% of its high ranking levels killed off, the ''entire'' royal family killed, and then undergoes a massive earthquake after the epilogue.
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* TheWoobie: Knoll, to the point that he actually expresses relief in his death quote. Amelia, who is also a PluckyGirl and refuses to let it get her down. Myrrh, who is already a ShrinkingViolet. ShrinkingViolet.
** The country Grado in general has its forces decimated, 85% of its high ranking levels killed off, the ''entire'' royal family killed, and then undergoes a massive earthquake after the epilogue.
** The country Grado in general has its forces decimated, 85% of its high ranking levels killed off, the ''entire'' royal family killed, and then undergoes a massive earthquake after the epilogue.
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* TierInducedScrappy: Knoll is HATED for his poor stats and the general weakness of dark magic in this game. Summoners in general are considered the worst overall class, too.
** That's only if you don't know how to use them. The trick with summoners is to use the summoned Phantom to draw enemy fire, just put it in range of an enemy you want to separate from the pack and watch as it runs away from the rest of the group after the Phantom where you can, with proper planning, flank the bastard and take them down easily. Using this trick, you can pick off an entire army pretty quickly. Also, the Phantoms can be used to weaken stronger enemies before you sic your actual units on them. Sure, the summoners may have poor stats, but using this trick, you really don't need them to fight directly.
** That's only if you don't know how to use them. The trick with summoners is to use the summoned Phantom to draw enemy fire, just put it in range of an enemy you want to separate from the pack and watch as it runs away from the rest of the group after the Phantom where you can, with proper planning, flank the bastard and take them down easily. Using this trick, you can pick off an entire army pretty quickly. Also, the Phantoms can be used to weaken stronger enemies before you sic your actual units on them. Sure, the summoners may have poor stats, but using this trick, you really don't need them to fight directly.
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* TierInducedScrappy: Knoll is HATED for his poor stats and the general weakness of dark magic in this game. Summoners in general are considered the worst overall class, too.
** That's only if you don't know how totoo, though careful use them. The trick with summoners is to use the summoned Phantom to draw enemy fire, just put it in range of an enemy you want to separate from the pack and watch as it runs away from the rest of the group after the Phantom where you can, with proper planning, flank the bastard and take them down easily. Using this trick, you their summons can pick off an entire army pretty quickly. Also, the Phantoms can be used to weaken stronger enemies before you sic your actual units on them. Sure, the summoners may have poor stats, but using this trick, you really don't need them to fight directly. prove surprisingly effective.
** That's only if you don't know how to
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler: Lyon. In fucking ''spades.'']]
** Also, [[spoiler: Aias and Selena]]
* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[Cloudcuckoolander L'Arachel]] and [[NiceHat Joshua]].
* MemeticMolester: Gheb.
** Also, [[spoiler: Aias and Selena]]
* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[Cloudcuckoolander L'Arachel]] and [[NiceHat Joshua]].
* MemeticMolester: Gheb.
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* AlasPoorVillain: A high number of villains are portrayed sympathetically, as good people who are misguided or taken advantage of. Selena, Carlyle, Zonta, Aias, [[spoiler: Lyon. In fucking ''spades.'']]
Orson]], and of course Lyon.
* AntiClimaxBoss: You will have a bunch of weapons that are super effective against the final boss and if you train the right characters to use them, you can kill him fairly quickly.
** Also,[[spoiler: Aias Valter goes down way too easily and Selena]]
without much ado for someone who's been a major threat for about three quarters of the game.
** Each floor of the bonus dungeons has a promoted "boss" monster. In [[BrutalBonusLevel Lagdou Ruins]] though, ''most'' of the enemies will be promoted, and the boss is the only one who doesn't scale -- so it's often the weakest enemy on the field by far and has about 2/3 the stats of the surrounding flunkies.
* ClicheStorm: EvilEmpire, turns out the emperor isn't the main villain but actually the dragon, or even not so evil and are lead by more powerful forces, good generals and ''evil'' generals with ''obvious'' evil ones. There's even a [[MyMasterRightOrWrong loyal general who is a reasonable authority figure but is so loyal they fight you to the death anyways]], and a [[HeelFaceTurn general who is a reasonable authority figure and]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere defects to the heroes' side]].
** Small aversion with Calleach. Despite that he's an obviously evil person; he's actually the ''least'' evil and is just more machiavelian than the other two, who practice demon worship and are a BloodKnight.
* CompleteMonster: Fomortiis, Valter, and Riev. Also [[spoiler:Lyon, when influenced by Fomortiis]].
* DemonicSpiders: The Baels are ''actual'' demonic spiders, but they have obnoxiously high enough physical attack and defense to fall under the spirit of the trope as well.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:[[Cloudcuckoolander L'Arachel]] and Joshua. [[NiceHat Joshua]].
We suspect it's the hat.]]
** Gheb was just some random {{Gonk}} that takes little to no difficulty to kill, but the fandom sees him as a MemeticMolester who stabs others to death with his penis.
* GameBreaker: Oh so much...
** The S-class weapons deal ''ridiculous'' damage to monsters. The game compensates for this by throwing a ''shitton'' of them at you in the final levels.
** Bishops.
* ItsEasySoItSucks: A common opinion from fans of the series (as the rest of the series tend more to NintendoHard).
** At least until the BrutalBonusLevel, which is suddenly able to reduce level-capped characters to fine paste.
* MagnificentBastard: Caellach. AffablyEvil, clever, ambitious... and ThatOneBoss, to boot.
* {{Memetic Sex God}}dess: Marisa's sexy legs > you.
* MemeticMolester:Gheb.Valter. Admittedly, it's not that much of a stretch as he's far too happy to track the twins down. Also, Gheb.
* MemeticBadass: [[strike: Gheb's one of the easiest bosses in one of the easiest FireEmblem games.]] He is invincible, and the "Gheb" one fights as a boss is actually his loser twin brother Gleb. If the actual Gheb were used, the game would be impossible.
** MemeticMutation: He has an entire patch of this game dedicated to him!
** MemeticMolester: His weapon in the patch is "Raep Her," for chrissakes!
* {{Moe}} : Amelia, Myrrh (less in the "super cutesy and adorable moeblob" sense and more in the "sweet child who goes through lots of shit" one).
* ThatOneBoss: Caellach can be notoriously hard to defeat.
* ThatOneLevel: Ephraim's chapter fourteen. Those Goddamn Berserk staves
* TierInducedScrappy: Knoll is HATED for his poor stats and the general weakness of dark magic in this game. Summoners in general are considered the worst overall class, too.
** That's only if you don't know how to use them. The trick with summoners is to use the summoned Phantom to draw enemy fire, just put it in range of an enemy you want to separate from the pack and watch as it runs away from the rest of the group after the Phantom where you can, with proper planning, flank the bastard and take them down easily. Using this trick, you can pick off an entire army pretty quickly. Also, the Phantoms can be used to weaken stronger enemies before you sic your actual units on them. Sure, the summoners may have poor stats, but using this trick, you really don't need them to fight directly.
** Ironically, immediately following the game's release, there was an UrbanLegendOfZelda going around that a rare glitch would make him incredibly good.
** And of the two potential Summoners, Knoll generally creates better Phantoms than Ewan
** It's also considered a terrible idea to make Amelia a cavalier-paladin or heavy knight. Mostly for the fact that you already get ''three'' and one paladin already.
* ToyShip: Amelia/Franz (or Ross, or Ewan). Colm and Neimi may count as well, though they appear to be at the older end of the scale.
* TheWoobie: Knoll, to the point that he actually expresses relief in his death quote. Amelia, who is also a PluckyGirl and refuses to let it get her down. Myrrh, who is already a ShrinkingViolet. The country Grado in general has its forces decimated, 85% of its high ranking levels killed off, the ''entire'' royal family killed, and then undergoes a massive earthquake after the epilogue.
* AntiClimaxBoss: You will have a bunch of weapons that are super effective against the final boss and if you train the right characters to use them, you can kill him fairly quickly.
** Also,
** Each floor of the bonus dungeons has a promoted "boss" monster. In [[BrutalBonusLevel Lagdou Ruins]] though, ''most'' of the enemies will be promoted, and the boss is the only one who doesn't scale -- so it's often the weakest enemy on the field by far and has about 2/3 the stats of the surrounding flunkies.
* ClicheStorm: EvilEmpire, turns out the emperor isn't the main villain but actually the dragon, or even not so evil and are lead by more powerful forces, good generals and ''evil'' generals with ''obvious'' evil ones. There's even a [[MyMasterRightOrWrong loyal general who is a reasonable authority figure but is so loyal they fight you to the death anyways]], and a [[HeelFaceTurn general who is a reasonable authority figure and]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere defects to the heroes' side]].
** Small aversion with Calleach. Despite that he's an obviously evil person; he's actually the ''least'' evil and is just more machiavelian than the other two, who practice demon worship and are a BloodKnight.
* CompleteMonster: Fomortiis, Valter, and Riev. Also [[spoiler:Lyon, when influenced by Fomortiis]].
* DemonicSpiders: The Baels are ''actual'' demonic spiders, but they have obnoxiously high enough physical attack and defense to fall under the spirit of the trope as well.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Gheb was just some random {{Gonk}} that takes little to no difficulty to kill, but the fandom sees him as a MemeticMolester who stabs others to death with his penis.
* GameBreaker: Oh so much...
** The S-class weapons deal ''ridiculous'' damage to monsters. The game compensates for this by throwing a ''shitton'' of them at you in the final levels.
** Bishops.
* ItsEasySoItSucks: A common opinion from fans of the series (as the rest of the series tend more to NintendoHard).
** At least until the BrutalBonusLevel, which is suddenly able to reduce level-capped characters to fine paste.
* MagnificentBastard: Caellach. AffablyEvil, clever, ambitious... and ThatOneBoss, to boot.
* {{Memetic Sex God}}dess: Marisa's sexy legs > you.
* MemeticMolester:
* MemeticBadass: [[strike: Gheb's one of the easiest bosses in one of the easiest FireEmblem games.]] He is invincible, and the "Gheb" one fights as a boss is actually his loser twin brother Gleb. If the actual Gheb were used, the game would be impossible.
** MemeticMutation: He has an entire patch of this game dedicated to him!
** MemeticMolester: His weapon in the patch is "Raep Her," for chrissakes!
* {{Moe}} : Amelia, Myrrh (less in the "super cutesy and adorable moeblob" sense and more in the "sweet child who goes through lots of shit" one).
* ThatOneBoss: Caellach can be notoriously hard to defeat.
* ThatOneLevel: Ephraim's chapter fourteen. Those Goddamn Berserk staves
* TierInducedScrappy: Knoll is HATED for his poor stats and the general weakness of dark magic in this game. Summoners in general are considered the worst overall class, too.
** That's only if you don't know how to use them. The trick with summoners is to use the summoned Phantom to draw enemy fire, just put it in range of an enemy you want to separate from the pack and watch as it runs away from the rest of the group after the Phantom where you can, with proper planning, flank the bastard and take them down easily. Using this trick, you can pick off an entire army pretty quickly. Also, the Phantoms can be used to weaken stronger enemies before you sic your actual units on them. Sure, the summoners may have poor stats, but using this trick, you really don't need them to fight directly.
** Ironically, immediately following the game's release, there was an UrbanLegendOfZelda going around that a rare glitch would make him incredibly good.
** And of the two potential Summoners, Knoll generally creates better Phantoms than Ewan
** It's also considered a terrible idea to make Amelia a cavalier-paladin or heavy knight. Mostly for the fact that you already get ''three'' and one paladin already.
* ToyShip: Amelia/Franz (or Ross, or Ewan). Colm and Neimi may count as well, though they appear to be at the older end of the scale.
* TheWoobie: Knoll, to the point that he actually expresses relief in his death quote. Amelia, who is also a PluckyGirl and refuses to let it get her down. Myrrh, who is already a ShrinkingViolet. The country Grado in general has its forces decimated, 85% of its high ranking levels killed off, the ''entire'' royal family killed, and then undergoes a massive earthquake after the epilogue.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[Cloudcuckoolander L'Arachel]] and [[NiceHat Joshua]].
* MemeticMolester: Gheb.
* {{Woolseyism}}: Ismaire's original name was Ishmael. Since that's a male name, it got approximated to the more feminine sounding Ismaire.
* MemeticMolester: Gheb.
* {{Woolseyism}}: Ismaire's original name was Ishmael. Since that's a male name, it got approximated to the more feminine sounding Ismaire.
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* CharacterAlignment: Several!
** LawfulGood: Ephraim, King Fado, Seth, Artur, King Hayden, Innes (with shades of LawfulNeutral), Moulder, Gilliam, Vanessa, Syrene, Kyle, Saleh, Queen Ismaire, Pontifex Mansel.
** NeutralGood: Eirika, Tana, Franz, Forde, Garcia, Neimi, Amelia, Natasha, Gerik (who should gear more to ChaoticGood due to being a mercenary), Tethys, Knoll, Duessel, Cormag, Glen, L'Arachel.
** ChaoticGood: Ross, Joshua, Ewan, Dozla
** LawfulNeutral: Selena, Aias
** TrueNeutral: Lute, Rennac
** ChaoticNeutral: Colm, though he switches to ChaoticGood
** LawfulEvil: Lyon, and apparently Vigarde ([[spoiler: post "resurrection")]]
** NeutralEvil: [[spoiler:Orson (who apparently started as LawfulGood, then switched to this after Monica's death)]], Valter, Caellach, Gheb
** ChaoticEvil: Fomortiis
** LawfulGood: Ephraim, King Fado, Seth, Artur, King Hayden, Innes (with shades of LawfulNeutral), Moulder, Gilliam, Vanessa, Syrene, Kyle, Saleh, Queen Ismaire, Pontifex Mansel.
** NeutralGood: Eirika, Tana, Franz, Forde, Garcia, Neimi, Amelia, Natasha, Gerik (who should gear more to ChaoticGood due to being a mercenary), Tethys, Knoll, Duessel, Cormag, Glen, L'Arachel.
** ChaoticGood: Ross, Joshua, Ewan, Dozla
** LawfulNeutral: Selena, Aias
** TrueNeutral: Lute, Rennac
** ChaoticNeutral: Colm, though he switches to ChaoticGood
** LawfulEvil: Lyon, and apparently Vigarde ([[spoiler: post "resurrection")]]
** NeutralEvil: [[spoiler:Orson (who apparently started as LawfulGood, then switched to this after Monica's death)]], Valter, Caellach, Gheb
** ChaoticEvil: Fomortiis
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler: Lyon. In fucking ''spades.'']]
** Also, [[spoiler: Aias and Selena]]
* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler: Lyon. In fucking ''spades.'']]
** Also, [[spoiler: Aias and Selena]]
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** NeutralGood: Eirika, Tana, Franz, Forde, Garcia, Neimi, Amelia, Natasha, Gerik (who should gear more to ChaoticGood due to being a mercenary), Tethys, Knoll, Duessel, Cormag, Glen.Glen, L'Arachel.
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** LawfulGood: Ephraim, King Fado, Seth
** NeutralGood: Eirika, Franz, Garcia, Neimi
** ChaoticGood: Ross, Joshua
** LawfulNeutral: Selena
** TrueNeutral: Lute
** ChaoticNeutral:
** LawfulEvil: Lyon
** NeutralEvil: [[spoiler:Orson]], Valter, Caellach, Gheb
** LawfulGood: Ephraim, King Fado, Seth
** NeutralGood: Eirika, Franz, Garcia, Neimi
** ChaoticGood: Ross, Joshua
** LawfulNeutral: Selena
** TrueNeutral: Lute
** ChaoticNeutral:
** LawfulEvil: Lyon
** NeutralEvil: [[spoiler:Orson]], Valter, Caellach, Gheb
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CharacterAlignment: Several!
** LawfulGood: Ephraim, King Fado,Seth
Seth, Artur, King Hayden, Innes (with shades of LawfulNeutral), Moulder, Gilliam, Vanessa, Syrene, Kyle, Saleh, Queen Ismaire, Pontifex Mansel.
** NeutralGood: Eirika, Tana, Franz, Forde, Garcia,Neimi
Neimi, Amelia, Natasha, Gerik (who should gear more to ChaoticGood due to being a mercenary), Tethys, Knoll, Duessel, Cormag, Glen.
** ChaoticGood: Ross,Joshua
Joshua, Ewan, Dozla
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Selena, Aias
** TrueNeutral:Lute
Lute, Rennac
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ChaoticNeutral: Colm, though he switches to ChaoticGood
** LawfulEvil:Lyon
Lyon, and apparently Vigarde ([[spoiler: post "resurrection")]]
** NeutralEvil:[[spoiler:Orson]], [[spoiler:Orson (who apparently started as LawfulGood, then switched to this after Monica's death)]], Valter, Caellach, Gheb
** LawfulGood: Ephraim, King Fado,
** NeutralGood: Eirika, Tana, Franz, Forde, Garcia,
** ChaoticGood: Ross,
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