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* NightmareFuel: The Game Over sequence. EVERYONE IS DEAD.
** Beelzebub's face. ''Dear lord''.
** When one of your party dies, go to a town. You'll find their ghost floating around where they usually stand. If you try to speak to them, all you get is "[[VisibleSilence ...]]"
** The effect of [[TakenForGranite petrification]]. The party member looks like a cracked stone statue, and it's not healed once the battle is over. Rather, the character appears to be ''dragging itself behind the party'' like a possessed statue.
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** "''Budōka''" (Martial Artist) became "Fighter", which thoroughly confused fans of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI'' and DungeonsAndDragons who might expect something closer to a swordsman.

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** "''Budōka''" (Martial Artist) became "Fighter", which thoroughly confused fans of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI'' and DungeonsAndDragons ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' who might expect something closer to a swordsman.
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** The sequences where one character is running around solo. They're not otherwise harder than any other part of the game, but the fact that you ''cannot'' flee without using the Wayfarer job and the inability to save on the world map makes it more nervewracking than it should be. Aire's stats are actually reduced during her jaunt because of her animal form. (Making it worse is that, except for Yunita's, it's all the result of their own foolishness.)
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* TearJerker: Traveling to Urbeth in the past and [[spoiler:learning that Thauzand was a priest who lost his faith because he couldn't afford the medicine to save his daughter's life. Thankfully you change history so she lives]].

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* NightmareFuel: The Game Over sequence. EVERYONE IS DEAD.
** Beelzebub's face. ''Dear lord''.
** When one of your party dies, go to a town. You'll find their ghost floating around where they usually stand. If you try to speak to them, all you get is "[[VisibleSilence ...]]"
** The effect of [[TakenForGranite petrification]]. The party member looks like a cracked stone statue, and it's not healed once the battle is over. Rather, the character appears to be ''dragging itself behind the party'' like a possessed statue.



* ThatOneBoss - Trollud certainly has tripped up some players. Arbaroc is pretty difficult too, without the right equipment and crowns.
** Also, Beelzebub's "Fall of Angels" attack is a pretty swift Game Over until you're able to break its charge.
* ThatOneLevel - The Star Chamber. ''WHERE THE HELL DO YOU GO?!''
** There are actually only two dead ends. The problem with this is the fact that ''everything looks the same'', so even if you know exactly what you did wrong, backtracking is frustrating enough to want to throw your DS at the wall. And the worst part? The Start Chamber is the dungeon prior to reaching the final boss, who lurks in -- of course -- the last room. The only save point is ''at the entrance to the Star Chamber''. Oh, so you lost the final boss fight? [[SarcasmMode Congratulations]], you get to traverse the hell dungeon again! Forget saving the world; not having to slog through that friggin' dungeon again is ''more'' than enough motivation to throw your all into that final fight.
** To truly highlight just how ridiculously confusing the area is: the official strategy guide comes with a very clear map of the Star Chamber to help you on your way, but take heart! You will be not be referring to it for guidance at every corner. No. You will be referring to it for ''every step you take'', because thanks to the level design, you might as well be wandering through [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Rock Tunnel without Flash]].
* ThatOnePuzzle - The puzzle for the Lamp of Truth.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The FinalBoss's form. [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:FFT4HoL-Chaos.jpg That appears to be the dark heart of the cosmos]] swirling around (and emanating from) its cape, and the camera pulls back from the party during this battle to give you a better sense of scale of the thing. It's quite impressive.
* TheWoobie - Rolan. Well, [[spoiler:the representation of what good is left in his heart, anyway. The poor guy's been trapped, alone, in a realm of hatred and darkness for ''hundreds of years''. Then, when [[HopeSpot he finally believes that he's overcome his own evil and been set free of the hatred that's consumed him]], it breaks loose in an attempt to ''destroy the world''. Oh, and it forces him to make a hell of a murder attempt on the people who tried to save him in the first place]].


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* NightmareFuel: The Game Over sequence. EVERYONE IS DEAD.
** Beelzebub's face. ''Dear lord''.
** When one of your party dies, go to a town. You'll find their ghost floating around where they usually stand. If you try to speak to them, all you get is "[[VisibleSilence ...]]"
** The effect of [[TakenForGranite petrification]]. The party member looks like a cracked stone statue, and it's not healed once the battle is over. Rather, the character appears to be ''dragging itself behind the party'' like a possessed statue.
* ThatOneBoss: Trollud certainly has tripped up some players. Arbaroc is pretty difficult too, without the right equipment and crowns.
** Also, Beelzebub's "Fall of Angels" attack is a pretty swift Game Over until you're able to break its charge.
* ThatOneLevel: The Star Chamber. ''WHERE THE HELL DO YOU GO?!''
** There are actually only two dead ends. The problem with this is the fact that ''everything looks the same'', so even if you know exactly what you did wrong, backtracking is frustrating enough to want to throw your DS at the wall. And the worst part? The Start Chamber is the dungeon prior to reaching the final boss, who lurks in -- of course -- the last room. The only save point is ''at the entrance to the Star Chamber''. Oh, so you lost the final boss fight? [[SarcasmMode Congratulations]], you get to traverse the hell dungeon again! Forget saving the world; not having to slog through that friggin' dungeon again is ''more'' than enough motivation to throw your all into that final fight.
** To truly highlight just how ridiculously confusing the area is: the official strategy guide comes with a very clear map of the Star Chamber to help you on your way, but take heart! You will be not be referring to it for guidance at every corner. No. You will be referring to it for ''every step you take'', because thanks to the level design, you might as well be wandering through [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Rock Tunnel without Flash]].
* ThatOnePuzzle: The puzzle for the Lamp of Truth.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The FinalBoss's form. [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:FFT4HoL-Chaos.jpg That appears to be the dark heart of the cosmos]] swirling around (and emanating from) its cape, and the camera pulls back from the party during this battle to give you a better sense of scale of the thing. It's quite impressive.
* TheWoobie - Rolan. Well, [[spoiler:the representation of what good is left in his heart, anyway. The poor guy's been trapped, alone, in a realm of hatred and darkness for ''hundreds of years''. Then, when [[HopeSpot he finally believes that he's overcome his own evil and been set free of the hatred that's consumed him]], it breaks loose in an attempt to ''destroy the world''. Oh, and it forces him to make a hell of a murder attempt on the people who tried to save him in the first place]].
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The FinalBoss's form. [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/File:FFT4HoL-Chaos.jpg That appears to be the dark heart of the cosmos]] swirling around (and emanating from) its cape, and the camera pulls back from the party during this battle to give you a better sense of scale of the thing. It's quite impressive.
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** To truly highlight just how ridiculously confusing the area is: the official strategy guide comes with a very clear map of the Star Chamber to help you on your way, but take heart! You will be not be referring to it for guidance at every corner. No. You will be referring to it for ''every step you take'', because thanks to the level design, you might as well be wandering through [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Rock Tunnel without Flash]].
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** Also, Beelzebub's "Fall of Angels" attack is a pretty swift Game Over until you're able to break its charge.
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** There are actually only two dead ends. The problem with this is the fact that ''everything looks the same'', so even if you know exactly what you did wrong, backtracking is frustrating enough to want to throw your DS at the wall. And the worst part? The Start Chamber is the dungeon prior to reaching the final boss, who lurks in -- of course -- the last room. The only save point is ''at the entrance to the Star Chamber''. Oh, so you lost the final boss fight? [[SarcasmMode Congratulations]], you get to traverse the hell dungeon again! Forget saving the world; not having to slog through that friggin' dungeon again is ''more'' than enough motivation to throw your all into that final fight.
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** "Yakushi (Pharmacist)" became "Salve-Maker".
** "Budouka (Martial Artist)" became "Fighter", which thoroughly confused fans of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI'' and DungeonsAndDragons who might expect something closer to a swordsman.
** "Asobinin (Playboy)" became "Party [[HostClub Host]]"
** "Doushi (Taoist)" became "Monk", confusing players expecting a BareFistedMonk (who is actually this game's "Fighter", as mentioned above).

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** "Yakushi (Pharmacist)" "''Yakushi''" (Pharmacist) became "Salve-Maker".
** "Budouka "''Budōka''" (Martial Artist)" Artist) became "Fighter", which thoroughly confused fans of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI'' and DungeonsAndDragons who might expect something closer to a swordsman.
** "Asobinin (Playboy)" "''Asobinin''" (Playboy) became "Party [[HostClub Host]]"
** "Doushi (Taoist)" "''Dōshi''" (Taoist) became "Monk", confusing players expecting a BareFistedMonk (who is actually this game's "Fighter", as mentioned above).
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* {{Woolseyism}}: The localization changes a number of the crown names from their intended meaning. To wit:

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* {{Woolseyism}}: The localization changes a number of the crown names from their intended meaning.meaning, which may be an attempt to parallel how some of the Japanese name jobs are different from usual (like the Black Mage being named ''Kuromahōtsukai'' instead of the usual ''Kuromadōshi''). To wit:
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** "Yakushi (Pharmacist)" became "Salve-Maker"
** "Budouka (Martial Artist)" became "Fighter" (Which thoroughly confused fans of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI'' and DungeonsAndDragons who might expect more of a standard warrior)

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** "Yakushi (Pharmacist)" became "Salve-Maker"
"Salve-Maker".
** "Budouka (Martial Artist)" became "Fighter" (Which "Fighter", which thoroughly confused fans of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI'' and DungeonsAndDragons who might expect more of something closer to a standard warrior)swordsman.



** "Doushi (Taoist)" became "Monk" (Which often confuses people looking for a BareFistedMonk (actually the "Fighter" here))

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** "Doushi (Taoist)" became "Monk" (Which often confuses people looking for "Monk", confusing players expecting a BareFistedMonk (actually the "Fighter" here))(who is actually this game's "Fighter", as mentioned above).
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** "Asobinin (Playboy)" became "Party Host"

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** "Asobinin (Playboy)" became "Party Host"[[HostClub Host]]"
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* FauxSymbolism: While it's not directly mentioned, each town represents one of the Seven Deadly Sins, and in the second half of the game is haunted by a demon also representing the sin.
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* NostalgiaLevel: This whole game, really. The title music really hits hard for anyone who grew up on 8 and 16-bit {{RPG}}s.
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* NostalgiaLevel This whole game, really. The title music really hits hard for anyone who grew up on 8 and 16-bit RPGs.

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* NostalgiaLevel NostalgiaLevel: This whole game, really. The title music really hits hard for anyone who grew up on 8 and 16-bit RPGs.{{RPG}}s.
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** "Budouka (Martial Artist)" became "Fighter" (Which thoroughly confused fans of FinalFantasyI and DungeonsAndDragons who might expect more of a standard warrior)

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** "Budouka (Martial Artist)" became "Fighter" (Which thoroughly confused fans of FinalFantasyI ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI'' and DungeonsAndDragons who might expect more of a standard warrior)
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* NostalgiaLevel This whole game, really. The title music really hits hard for anyone who grew up on 8 and 16-bit RPGs.
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** When one of your party dies, go to a town. You'll find their ghost floating around where they usually stand. If you try to speak to them, all you get is "[[VisibleSilence ...]]"
** The effect of [[TakenForGranite petrification]]. The party member looks like a cracked stone statue, and it's not healed once the battle is over. Rather, the character appears to be ''dragging itself behind the party'' like a possessed statue.
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* ThatOneBoss - Trollud certainly has tripped up some newbie players.

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* ThatOneBoss - Trollud certainly has tripped up some newbie players.players. Arbaroc is pretty difficult too, without the right equipment and crowns.

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* BreatherBoss: Leviathan. Despite his high HP, with the correct weapons and crowns, he's a joke. Lucifer can also qualify.

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* NightmareFuel: The Game Over sequence. EVERYONE IS DEAD.
** Beelzebub's face. ''Dear lord''.
* BreatherBoss: Leviathan. Despite his high HP, with Some bosses in the correct weapons and crowns, he's a joke. Lucifer can also qualify.second half of the game, due to the world's WideOpenSandbox nature.



* NightmareFuel: The Game Over sequence. EVERYONE IS DEAD.
** Beelzebub's face. ''Dear lord''.

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* NightmareFuel: ThatOneBoss - Trollud certainly has tripped up some newbie players.
* ThatOneLevel -
The Game Over sequence. EVERYONE IS DEAD.
** Beelzebub's face. ''Dear lord''.
Star Chamber. ''WHERE THE HELL DO YOU GO?!''
* ThatOnePuzzle - The puzzle for the Lamp of Truth.
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: Use the transform staff on Jusqua and he becomes what he truly is: A giant cock.

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* {{Woolseyism}}: The crown [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhaisajyaguru Bhaisajyaguru]] (薬師) was adapted into "Salve-Maker".

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* {{Woolseyism}}: The localization changes a number of the crown [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhaisajyaguru Bhaisajyaguru]] (薬師) was adapted into "Salve-Maker".names from their intended meaning. To wit:
** "Yakushi (Pharmacist)" became "Salve-Maker"
** "Budouka (Martial Artist)" became "Fighter" (Which thoroughly confused fans of FinalFantasyI and DungeonsAndDragons who might expect more of a standard warrior)
** "Asobinin (Playboy)" became "Party Host"
** "Doushi (Taoist)" became "Monk" (Which often confuses people looking for a BareFistedMonk (actually the "Fighter" here))
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* BreatherBoss: Leviathan. Despite his high HP, with the correct weapons and crowns, he's a joke. Lucifer can also qualify.
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: Use the transform staff on Jusqua and he becomes what he truly is: A giant cock.

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* GameBreaker: The moment you hit Urbeth, the merchant town, which sells [[DiscOneNuke very powerful magic very early in the game]]. It's expensive, but the same town hosts a shopkeeping minigame which can be easily exploited [[ForMassiveDamage for massive cash]], and even has several very short and easy sidequests to provide seed money. As if that weren't enough, there's a crown obtained in the same town that's powered by money.

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* GameBreaker: The moment you hit Urbeth, Urbeth (at least after the Liberte arc), the merchant town, which sells [[DiscOneNuke very powerful magic very early in the game]]. It's expensive, but the same town hosts a shopkeeping minigame which can be easily exploited [[ForMassiveDamage for massive cash]], and even has several very short and easy sidequests to provide seed money. As if that weren't enough, there's a crown obtained in the same town that's powered by money.



** Not exactly the ''moment'', since you can access Urbeth before defeating [[spoiler: Trollud]], and the shopping minigame isn't avaliable at the time.



** Beelzebub's face. Dear lord.
* TheWoobie: Yunita, a FailureKnight who tries to rescue Aire on her own then gets yanked by Brandt, who ditches her in a misguided attempt to look like a strong, independent hero after the Sand Devil is killed. Jusqua later finds her in Urbeth dressed in rags, wallowing in self-pity and initially turning down Jusqua's attempts to make her join him and lift a curse on Aire (or so he thinks). And after the pair save Urbeth from a monster outbreak, ''he'' ditches her too. Worse still, she's not gaining EXP during all this, meaning that when she does finally rejoin, she's vastly behind the rest of the party.
** TheWoobie? Isn't she the IronWoobie?

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** Beelzebub's face. Dear lord.
''Dear lord''.
* TheWoobie: TheWoobie - Rolan. Well, [[spoiler:the representation of what good is left in his heart, anyway. The poor guy's been trapped, alone, in a realm of hatred and darkness for ''hundreds of years''. Then, when [[HopeSpot he finally believes that he's overcome his own evil and been set free of the hatred that's consumed him]], it breaks loose in an attempt to ''destroy the world''. Oh, and it forces him to make a hell of a murder attempt on the people who tried to save him in the first place]].
* IronWoobie:
Yunita, a FailureKnight who tries to rescue Aire on her own then gets yanked by Brandt, who ditches her in a misguided attempt to look like a strong, independent hero after the Sand Devil is killed. Jusqua later finds her in Urbeth dressed in rags, wallowing in self-pity and initially turning down Jusqua's attempts to make her join him and lift a curse on Aire (or so he thinks). And after the pair save Urbeth from a monster outbreak, ''he'' ditches her too. Worse still, she's not gaining EXP during all this, meaning that when she does finally rejoin, she's vastly behind the rest of the party.
** TheWoobie? Isn't she the IronWoobie?
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** Also, Rolan. Well, [[spoiler:the representation of what good is left in his heart, anyway. The poor guy's been trapped, alone, in a realm of hatred and darkness for ''hundreds of years''. Then, when [[HopeSpot he finally believes that he's overcome his own evil and been set free of the hatred that's consumed him]], it breaks loose in an attempt to ''destroy the world''. Oh, and it forces him to make a hell of a murder attempt on the people who tried to save him in the first place]].
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** The kicker would be when Aire and Brandt have a conversation where she asks him if he dumped her for getting in the way and then chides him because he should know she's useless on her own. Man, [[NoRespectGuy no respect]]!
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** The Elementalist's "Mysterio" spell gives the whole party resistance to ''all'' elemental attacks. If any characters already had resistance to any elements before it from equipment, they will be ''healed'' by attacks of those elements. Needless to say, Darkness-resistant armor and Mysterio are definitely your friend during the endgame.

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** The Elementalist's "Mysterio" spell gives the whole party resistance to ''all'' elemental attacks. If any characters already had resistance to any elements before it from equipment, they will be ''healed'' by attacks of those elements. Needless to say, Darkness-resistant armor and Mysterio are definitely your friend friends during the endgame.
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** The Elementalist's "Mysterio" spell gives the whole party resistance to ''all'' elemental attacks. If any characters already had resistance to any elements before it from equipment, they will be ''healed'' by attacks of those elements. Needless to say, Darkness-resistant armor and Mysterio are definitely your friend during the endgame.

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