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** The Harvestman's death scene is unnerving, with it pinning you against the wall, creepy music playing, and it giggling like a child playing with toys as it breaks your limbs and [[AssShove shoves its hand up your anus]] with uncomfortable sound effects. But the [[MajorInjuryUnderreaction lack of visible reaction]] from the player character sprite, whether through facial expressions or them screaming, can have an opposite effect. If anything it makes them come off as just being ''bored'' while the Harvestman does the deed.
** [[spoiler: Francóis]] will be able to [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil have their way with the player]] even with the ''Penance Armor'' equipped. It's honestly a bit silly seeing them do so with someone fully decked out in spiked metal armor.
** The Harvestman's death scene is unnerving, with it pinning you against the wall, creepy music playing, and it giggling like a child playing with toys as it breaks your limbs and [[AssShove shoves its hand up your anus]] with uncomfortable sound effects. But the [[MajorInjuryUnderreaction lack of visible reaction]] from the player character sprite, whether through facial expressions or them screaming, can have an opposite effect. If anything it makes them come off as just being ''bored'' while the Harvestman does the deed.
** [[spoiler: Francóis]] will be able to [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil have their way with the player]] even with the ''Penance Armor'' equipped. It's honestly a bit silly seeing them do so with someone fully decked out in spiked metal armor.
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** If you can't fight off or get away from the Guards or Night Lurches you can get raped, which leaves you with the "Severe Anal Bleeding" status effect that makes you bleed every few seconds. It can only be healed by forming a [[FusionDance Marriage]] or getting assistance from the [[spoiler:Lady of the Moon]]
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** If you can't fight off or get away from fail the Guards or Night Lurches you Lurches' coin flip attack (which can get raped, which even be done on the overworld) or die wt times to the Guards, the resulting assault leaves you with the "Severe Anal Bleeding" status effect that makes you bleed every few seconds. It can only be healed by forming a [[FusionDance [[RomanticFusion Marriage]] or getting assistance from the [[spoiler:Lady of the Moon]]Moon]].
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** Demon babies all share the same character ID. This means that if it's crippled, you teach one magic, or give it equipment and then give it to the Pocket Cat, making a new one will be the same as the one you got rid of once it's matured enough.
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** Demon babies Child's all share the same character ID. This means that if it's crippled, you teach one magic, magic or give it equipment and then equipment, give it to the Pocket Cat, making and make a new one will be one, with your new Demon Child having the same as the one you got rid of abilities once it's matured enough.
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** Leg Sweep is a skill that is meant to remove your opponent's legs. For whatever reason, however, it also breaks down doors in one hit, making it superior to Lockpick. This even extends to the [[spoiler: door containing the Miasma which would normally require defeating the Crow Mauler and taking the Crow Key.]]
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** Leg Sweep is a skill that is meant to remove your opponent's legs. For whatever reason, however, it also breaks down doors in one hit, making it superior to Lockpick. This even extends to the [[spoiler: door [[spoiler:door containing the Miasma which would normally require defeating the Crow Mauler and taking the Crow Key.]]
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* MemeticLoser: D'arce has been developing a half serious reputation as one for a handful of reasons. Her status as a CrutchCharacter, the fact that Le’Garde will refuse to partake in a Marriage with her despite them being lovers, her S Ending [[spoiler: seeming like a very [[CameBackWrong ill thought out idea]]]] and her [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking unflattering haircut.]]
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* MemeticLoser: D'arce has been developing a half serious reputation as one for a handful of reasons. Her status as a CrutchCharacter, the fact that Le’Garde will refuse to partake in a Marriage with her despite them being lovers, her S Ending [[spoiler: seeming [[spoiler:seeming like a very [[CameBackWrong ill thought out idea]]]] ill-thought-out idea]]]], and her [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking unflattering haircut.]] haircut]].
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* {{Fanon}}: It's popular to show one of the four protagonists as being a ParentalSubstitute to The Girl, often due to the fact that lots of players would admit to immediately [[MamaBear feeling]] [[PapaWolf protective]] over her upon meeting her. Cahara is a popular choice for this depiction, given how his motivation for entering the dungeon also involves his own concerns as an expecting father, to the point that some fans have even begun to call him [[FanNickname "Dadhara."]]
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* {{Fanon}}: It's popular to show one of the four protagonists as being a ParentalSubstitute to The Girl, often due to the fact that lots of players would admit to immediately [[MamaBear feeling]] [[PapaWolf protective]] over her upon meeting her. Cahara is a popular choice for this depiction, given how his motivation for entering the dungeon also involves his own concerns as an expecting father, to the point that some fans have even begun to call him [[FanNickname "Dadhara."]]"Dadhara"]].
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* DemonicSpiders: Due to the increase in enemy health, the starting Prison Guards are elevated to this level in Terror & Starvation and Hard mode. Everyone's starting weapons cannot reliably cut off their weapon arm before they attack, which would in turn sever one of ''your'' arms. It's even worse for Enki, as he can't wear arm guards like everyone else could if they're lucky gathering gear at the start.
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* DemonicSpiders: Due to the increase in enemy health, the starting Prison Guards are elevated to this level in Terror & Starvation and Hard mode.Mode. Everyone's starting weapons cannot reliably cut off their weapon arm before they attack, which would in turn sever one of ''your'' arms. It's even worse for Enki, as he can't wear arm guards like everyone else could if they're lucky gathering gear at the start.
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** Poison. It deals ''immense'' damage per turn and has a high chance of landing no matter what the enemy is. If you're facing something that can't be defeated by chopping off limbs, poison is the best way to kill it. In fact, the best course of causing it is...
** Throwing knives. In addition to causing poison, they have a 100% chance to hit no matter where they're thrown. Don't want to deal with the risk/reward of having to choose between a fast but risky head kill or a slower but reliable torso kill? Just throw a knife at the target's head and watch them die from the deceptively high damage it causes! Even the few things not killed by it (bosses, the Greater Blight) suffer from the poison damage, anyway. Fortunately, in addition to being consumables, they're also uncommon, meaning you can't spam them. It was also later nerfed to no longer practically be an instant kill, but the poison damage was surprisingly untouched.
** Throwing knives. In addition to causing poison, they have a 100% chance to hit no matter where they're thrown. Don't want to deal with the risk/reward of having to choose between a fast but risky head kill or a slower but reliable torso kill? Just throw a knife at the target's head and watch them die from the deceptively high damage it causes! Even the few things not killed by it (bosses, the Greater Blight) suffer from the poison damage, anyway. Fortunately, in addition to being consumables, they're also uncommon, meaning you can't spam them. It was also later nerfed to no longer practically be an instant kill, but the poison damage was surprisingly untouched.
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** Damage over time effects, be it Fire, Bleed, or Poison. It deals ''immense'' damage per turn Each drains 10% of the afflicted boy part's health each turn, and has a high chance of landing no matter what the enemy is. If you're facing something that can't be defeated by chopping off limbs, poison is the best way to kill it. In fact, the best course of causing it is...
** Throwing knives. In addition to causing poison, they have a 100% chance to hit no matter where they're thrown. Don't want to dealthere are plentiful options with the risk/reward which to use any of having to choose them between items, spells, and a fast few select weapons. Many enemies at a glance have very high health for their torsos, but risky head kill or a slower but reliable in reality the game is coded such that almost every enemy aside for some most lategame bosses die when their torso kill? Just throw a knife at the target's head and watch them die from the deceptively high damage it causes! Even the few things not killed by it (bosses, the Greater Blight) suffer from the poison damage, anyway. Fortunately, in addition to being consumables, they're also uncommon, loses 25% of its overall HP, meaning successfully inflicting one of the three aforementioned status ailments can win you can't spam them. It was also later nerfed to no longer practically be an instant kill, but the poison fight in just three turns. Since the damage was surprisingly untouched.is percentage-based, these strategies still hold true on harder difficulties.
** Throwing knives. In addition to causing poison, they have a 100% chance to hit no matter where they're thrown. Don't want to deal
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** The Crow Mauler doesn't despawn if you pass through the entryway arch of Ma'habre in the past and stick to either the left or right side of it. Only moving through it on the center tiles. Since all strategies involved in safely killing it require at least some amount of preparation, being able to hold off on fighting it for as long as possible is very helpful.
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** Leg Sweep is a skill that is meant to remove your opponent's legs. For whatever reason, however, it also breaks down doors in one hit, making it superior to Lockpick.
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** Leg Sweep is a skill that is meant to remove your opponent's legs. For whatever reason, however, it also breaks down doors in one hit, making it superior to Lockpick. This even extends to the [[spoiler: door containing the Miasma which would normally require defeating the Crow Mauler and taking the Crow Key.]]
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* DemonicSpiders: Due to the increase in enemy health, the starting Prison Guards are elevated to this level in Terror & Starvation and Hard mode. Everyone's starting weapons cannot reliably cut off their weapon arm before they attack, which would in turn sever one of ''your'' arms. It's even worse for Enki, as he can't wear arm guards like everyone else could if they're lucky gathering gear at the start.
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* ThatOneLevel: The Void, an area encountered when trying to achieve endings C or D. The player's companions are scattered upon entering, meaning they'll need to search for them to have any shot at defeating [[spoiler:Sylvian]] or [[spoiler:the Yellow King]]. Not only that, but the Greater Blight, a giant dinosaur, will constantly search for the party and engage them in an inescapable battle unless they periodically hide, which they are extremely likely to lose. Given that it’s located at the very end of the game, many players have experienced frustration with it.
** The Gauntlet, the final area explored while going for endings A and B, is similarly difficult due to the assorted dangers present in it. Large swaths of the floor are covered in insects that will damage you if you don't have Mastery Over Insects (a spell that [[GuideDangIt anyone other than Enki needs an Empty Scroll to gain]]), there are instant-death swinging pendulum blades and rolling boulders, and several several powerful new enemies including a two-headed Crow Mauler.
** The Gauntlet, the final area explored while going for endings A and B, is similarly difficult due to the assorted dangers present in it. Large swaths of the floor are covered in insects that will damage you if you don't have Mastery Over Insects (a spell that [[GuideDangIt anyone other than Enki needs an Empty Scroll to gain]]), there are instant-death swinging pendulum blades and rolling boulders, and several several powerful new enemies including a two-headed Crow Mauler.
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** The Void, an area encountered when trying to achieveendings Endings C or D. The player's companions are scattered upon entering, meaning they'll need to search for them to have any shot at defeating [[spoiler:Sylvian]] or [[spoiler:the Yellow King]]. Not only that, but the Greater Blight, a giant dinosaur, will constantly search for the party and engage them in an inescapable battle unless they periodically hide, which they are extremely likely to lose. Given that it’s it's located at the very end of the game, many players have experienced frustration with it.
** The Gauntlet, the final area explored while going forendings Endings A and B, is similarly difficult due to the assorted dangers present in it. Large swaths of the floor are covered in insects that will damage you if you don't have Mastery Over Insects (a spell that [[GuideDangIt anyone other than Enki needs an Empty Scroll to gain]]), there are instant-death swinging pendulum blades and rolling boulders, and several several powerful new enemies including a two-headed Crow Mauler.
** The Void, an area encountered when trying to achieve
** The Gauntlet, the final area explored while going for
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Many agree that of the player characters, Cahara's the best to use if you're new to the game. He doesn't have any equipment or armor restrictions, so even if he has a measly leather vest equipped at the beginning, you can swap it out for better choices later on. He also can wield almost any type of weapon except for blunt and dagger types, meaning that powerful two-handed weapons can be used by him. He also has skills that can be pretty useful in the overworld, such as lockpicking and escape plan, making locked doors a non-issue and avoiding battles a breeze. All in all, his versatility makes him an ideal choice as the player.
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Many agree that of the player characters, Cahara's the best to use if you're new to the game. He doesn't have any equipment or armor restrictions, so even if he has a measly leather vest equipped at the beginning, you can swap it out for better choices later on. He also can wield almost any type of weapon except for blunt and dagger types, meaning that powerful two-handed weapons can be used by him. He also has skills that can be pretty useful in the overworld, such as lockpicking and escape plan, making locked doors a non-issue and avoiding battles a breeze. All in all, his versatility makes him an ideal choice as the player.
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Many agree that of the player characters, Cahara's the best to use if you're new to the game. He doesn't have any equipment or armor restrictions, so even if he has a measly leather vest equipped at the beginning, you can swap it out for better choices later on. He also can wield almost any type of weapon except for blunt and dagger types, meaning that powerful two-handed weapons can be used by him. He also has skills that can be pretty useful in the overworld, such as lockpicking and escape plan, making locked doors a non-issue and avoiding battles a breeze. All in all, his versatility makes him an ideal choice as the player.
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** Simple Transmutation, a spell that can acquired in Ma'habre almost immediately if you know where to look. It has two uses, being able to turn water vials into wine vials, and replicate moldy bread provided you have at least one. Between wine vials restoring more Mind than it costs to cast the spell and the Salmonsnake's pond being an infinite supply for water to fill vials with, concerns about restoring Mind or easing hunger are eliminated entirely and with a healing spell, restoring Body is similarly a non-issue.
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** While the Salmonsnake may seem like a weirdly plain addition to the nightmarish dungeons, its place [[OurDragonsAreDifferent may be a bit more clear]] should one happen to know a bit of Finnish. In the native language of the game's creator, the word for "dragon", "lohikäärme", is composed of the words for salmon (lohi) and snake "käärme"".
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** While the Salmonsnake may seem like a weirdly plain addition to the nightmarish dungeons, its place [[OurDragonsAreDifferent may be a bit more clear]] should one happen to know a bit of Finnish. In the native language of the game's creator, the word for "dragon", "lohikäärme", lohikäärme, is composed of the words for salmon "salmon" (lohi) and snake "käärme""."snake" (käärme)".
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** The Girl, '''good god,''' The Girl. From the moment she was born, her short life was nothing but torture and she never had the opportunity to experience any love or kindness, save for [[VideoGameCaringPotential if you choose to help her out of her cage and go out of you way to protect her.]] Even helping her out of her cage doesn't guarantee that things will get better seeing as the player [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential can offer]] her to the Human Hydra, a [[HumanSacrifice ritual circle,]] or Pocketcat among all the other horrors experienced in the dungeon. Not to mention the fact that her parents conceived her ''specifically'' to have a HumanSacrifice for what they believe to be the greater good. [[spoiler: [[FromBadToWorse It gets even worse]] if you go out of your way to get Ending A, where she becomes The God of Fear and Hunger, which Termina implicitly treats as her canon ending.]]
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** The Girl, '''good god,''' The Girl. From the moment she was born, her short life was nothing but torture and she never had the opportunity to experience any love or kindness, save for [[VideoGameCaringPotential if you choose to help her out of her cage and go out of you your way to protect her.]] Even helping her out of her cage doesn't guarantee that things will get better seeing as the player [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential can offer]] her to the Human Hydra, a [[HumanSacrifice ritual circle,]] or Pocketcat among all the other horrors experienced in the dungeon. Not to mention the fact that her parents conceived her ''specifically'' to have a HumanSacrifice for what they believe to be the greater good. [[spoiler: [[FromBadToWorse It gets even worse]] if you go out of your way to get Ending A, where she becomes The God of Fear and Hunger, which Termina implicitly treats as her canon ending.]]
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** Cahara's a whore/slut[[labelnote:Explanation]]Various jokes about Cahara being excited to get it on with even the Prison Guards, stemming from his nonchalant or even eager attitude in the Marriage ritual and partially from his confirmed bisexuality[[/labelnote]]
** D'arce is a femcel/simp[[labelnote:Explanation]]Because of her being a MemeticLoser, it's quite common to make fun of D'arce's unrequited feelings for Le'garde, with Le'garde bluntly turning down her offer to perform a Marriage ritual being brought up.[[/labelnote]]
** D'arce is a femcel/simp[[labelnote:Explanation]]Because of her being a MemeticLoser, it's quite common to make fun of D'arce's unrequited feelings for Le'garde, with Le'garde bluntly turning down her offer to perform a Marriage ritual being brought up.[[/labelnote]]
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** D'arce is a
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* MemeticMutation: [[Film/NoCountryForOldMen "What's the most you’ve ever lost on a coin toss?"]][[labelnote:Explanation]]Usually used to reflect just how bad losing a coin toss can go.[[/labelnote]]
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** [[Film/NoCountryForOldMen "What's the most you’ve ever lost on a coin toss?"]][[labelnote:Explanation]]Usually used to reflect just how bad losing a coin toss can go.[[/labelnote]]
** Cahara's a whore/slut[[labelnote:Explanation]]Various jokes about Cahara being excited to get it on with even the Prison Guards, stemming from his nonchalant or even eager attitude in the Marriage ritual and partially from his confirmed bisexuality[[/labelnote]]
** D'arce is a femcel/simp[[labelnote:Explanation]]Because of her being a MemeticLoser, it's quite common to make fun of D'arce's unrequited feelings for Le'garde, with Le'garde bluntly turning down her offer to perform a Marriage ritual being brought up.[[/labelnote]]
** [[Film/NoCountryForOldMen "What's the most you’ve ever lost on a coin toss?"]][[labelnote:Explanation]]Usually used to reflect just how bad losing a coin toss can go.[[/labelnote]]
** Cahara's a whore/slut[[labelnote:Explanation]]Various jokes about Cahara being excited to get it on with even the Prison Guards, stemming from his nonchalant or even eager attitude in the Marriage ritual and partially from his confirmed bisexuality[[/labelnote]]
** D'arce is a femcel/simp[[labelnote:Explanation]]Because of her being a MemeticLoser, it's quite common to make fun of D'arce's unrequited feelings for Le'garde, with Le'garde bluntly turning down her offer to perform a Marriage ritual being brought up.[[/labelnote]]
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** Cahara lived in poverty, after his parents abandoned him, which led to him living a life of thievery and mercenary work. Eventually, he reached Rondon, but ended up in its underworld which forced him to always be on his guard. He does find some happiness in his [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold lover, Celeste,]] but her work of indentured servitude meant that she would never be free. Him accepting the mission to rescue Le'garde is clearly an act of desperation to be able to buy Celeste's freedom and if he isn't chosen as the player, there's the implication that he was a [[PrisonRape victim]] of the Guards who somehow managed to get away from them. [[BittersweetEnding Even if he does manage to survive the dungeon, he's left traumatised from the ordeal. [[spoiler: It's also implied that he's the one among the protagonists who brought The Girl through the gauntlet and to the bottom of the dungeons, leading to her ascension into a god. In others words, it's likely that he's long been dead by the time the second game starts.]]
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** Cahara lived in poverty, after his parents abandoned him, which led to him living a life of thievery and mercenary work. Eventually, he reached Rondon, but ended up in its underworld which forced him to always be on his guard. He does find some happiness in his [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold lover, Celeste,]] but her work of indentured servitude meant that she would never be free. Him accepting the mission to rescue Le'garde is clearly an act of desperation to be able to buy Celeste's freedom and if he isn't chosen as the player, there's the implication that he was a [[PrisonRape victim]] of the Guards who somehow managed to get away from them. [[BittersweetEnding Even if he does manage to survive the dungeon, he's left traumatised from the ordeal. ]] [[spoiler: It's also implied that he's the one among the protagonists who brought The Girl through the gauntlet and to the bottom of the dungeons, leading to her ascension into a god. In others words, it's likely that he's long been dead by the time the second game starts.]]
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** Cahara lived in poverty, after his parents abandoned him, which led to him living a life of thievery and mercenary work. Eventually, he reached Rondon, but ended up in its underworld which forced him to always be on his guard. He does find some happiness in his [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold lover, Celeste,]] but her work of indentured servitude meant that she would never be free. Him accepting the mission to rescue Le'garde is clearly an act of desperation to be able to buy Celeste's freedom and if he isn't chosen as the player, there's the implication that he was a [[PrisonRape victim]] of the Guards who somehow managed to get away from them. [[BittersweetEnding Even if he does manage to survive the dungeon, he's left traumatised from the ordeal.]]
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** Cahara lived in poverty, after his parents abandoned him, which led to him living a life of thievery and mercenary work. Eventually, he reached Rondon, but ended up in its underworld which forced him to always be on his guard. He does find some happiness in his [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold lover, Celeste,]] but her work of indentured servitude meant that she would never be free. Him accepting the mission to rescue Le'garde is clearly an act of desperation to be able to buy Celeste's freedom and if he isn't chosen as the player, there's the implication that he was a [[PrisonRape victim]] of the Guards who somehow managed to get away from them. [[BittersweetEnding Even if he does manage to survive the dungeon, he's left traumatised from the ordeal. [[spoiler: It's also implied that he's the one among the protagonists who brought The Girl through the gauntlet and to the bottom of the dungeons, leading to her ascension into a god. In others words, it's likely that he's long been dead by the time the second game starts.]]
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** The Girl, '''good god,''' The Girl. From the moment she was born, her short life was nothing but torture and she never had the opportunity to experience any love or kindness, save for [[VideoGameCaringPotential if you choose to help her out of her cage and go out of you way to protect her.]] Even helping her out of her cage doesn't guarantee that things will get better seeing as the player [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential can offer]] her to the Human Hydra, a [[HumanSacrifice ritual circle,]] or Pocketcat among all the other horrors experienced in the dungeon. Not to mention the fact that her parents conceived her ''specifically'' to have a HumanSacrifice for what they believe to be the greater good. [[spoiler: [[FromBadToWorse It gets even worse]] if you go out of your way to get Ending A, where she becomes The God of Fear and Hunger.]]
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** The Girl, '''good god,''' The Girl. From the moment she was born, her short life was nothing but torture and she never had the opportunity to experience any love or kindness, save for [[VideoGameCaringPotential if you choose to help her out of her cage and go out of you way to protect her.]] Even helping her out of her cage doesn't guarantee that things will get better seeing as the player [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential can offer]] her to the Human Hydra, a [[HumanSacrifice ritual circle,]] or Pocketcat among all the other horrors experienced in the dungeon. Not to mention the fact that her parents conceived her ''specifically'' to have a HumanSacrifice for what they believe to be the greater good. [[spoiler: [[FromBadToWorse It gets even worse]] if you go out of your way to get Ending A, where she becomes The God of Fear and Hunger.Hunger, which Termina implicitly treats as her canon ending.]]
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* FandomSpecificPlot: Ending where the protagonists making it out of the dungeons alive with The Girl in tow and adopting her. [[spoiler: Which can be a TearJerker for those aware of The Girl's (implied to be) canon fate.]]
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* FandomSpecificPlot: Ending Endings where the protagonists making make it out of the dungeons alive with The Girl in tow and adopting adopt her. [[spoiler: Which can be a TearJerker for those aware of The Girl's (implied to be) canon fate.]]
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* FandomSpecificPlot: Ending where the protagonists making it out of the dungeons alive with The Girl in tow and adopting her. [[spoiler: Which can be a TearJerker for those aware of The Girl's (implied to be) canon fate.]]
* FanNickname: "Dadhara" specifically for depictions of Cahara as a PapaWolf ParentalSubstitute for The Girl.
* {{Fanon}}: It's popular to show one of the four protagonists as being a ParentalSubstitute to The Girl, often due to the fact that lots of players would admit to immediately [[MamaBear feeling]] [[PapaWolf protective]] over her upon meeting her. Cahara is a popular choice for this depiction, given how his motivation for entering the dungeon also involves his own concerns as an expecting father, to the point that some fans have even begun to call him [[FanNickname "Dadhara."]]
* FanNickname: "Dadhara" specifically for depictions of Cahara as a PapaWolf ParentalSubstitute for The Girl.
* {{Fanon}}: It's popular to show one of the four protagonists as being a ParentalSubstitute to The Girl, often due to the fact that lots of players would admit to immediately [[MamaBear feeling]] [[PapaWolf protective]] over her upon meeting her. Cahara is a popular choice for this depiction, given how his motivation for entering the dungeon also involves his own concerns as an expecting father, to the point that some fans have even begun to call him [[FanNickname "Dadhara."]]
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* UglyCute: Moonless. She's a heavily mutated and unhealthy-looking wolf, but she's still a sweet and loyal dog at her core.
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** Moonless. She's a heavily mutated and unhealthy-looking wolf, but she's still a sweet and loyal dog at hercore.core.
** Enki is exceptionally gaunt-looking, but that doesn't stop those in the fandom from [[FreakyIsCool liking him]].
** Moonless. She's a heavily mutated and unhealthy-looking wolf, but she's still a sweet and loyal dog at her
** Enki is exceptionally gaunt-looking, but that doesn't stop those in the fandom from [[FreakyIsCool liking him]].
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*** ...or he really is just that selfish and the story about being caught by the guards was something he made up([[GamePlayAndStorySegregation he does lack the injuries that player gains from losing to the guards]] when you find him)?
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*** ...or he really is just that selfish and the story about being caught by the guards was something he made up([[GamePlayAndStorySegregation he up? [[GamePlayAndStorySegregation He does lack the injuries that player gains from losing to the guards]] when you find him)?him.
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** Was Enki's choice to ''[[spoiler: not]]'' [[spoiler: ascend to Godhood in his S-Ending]] just so that he could reach true enlightenment? Or was it rooted in fear over what becoming [[spoiler: a New God]] meant, given the fact that [[spoiler: for all their power they are still capable of being defeated.]] Perhaps even a small part of him isn't completely devoid of morals and was concerned that he could lose his humanity in more ways than one should he make the choice? ''It is'' possible to have him make less morally grey choices after all, such as sparing his sister in his backstory or helping The Girl.
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** Cahara choosing to [[SoLongAndThanksForAllTheGear abscond from the party with a blue or light blue vial]] after bringing him out of the prison cell could be not just out of his usual selfishness but rather, pragmatism (he is a mercenary after all). It's implied he had fallen victim to the guards (and in [[PrisonRape different ways]]) and thus, could've gained injuries and had all his supplies used up, which could lead to him stealing the vials so that he could heal whatever injuries he might've sustained. Him leaving the party could either be from fear that it could end with him being arrested or imprisoned even after rescuing Le'garde, or distrust towards the player, which makes his nonchalant attitude if he does ''actually'' join your party somewhat make sense...or he really is just that selfish and the story about being caught by the guards was something he made ([[GamePlayAndStorySegregation he does lack the injuries that player gains from losing to the guards]] when you find him).
** D'arce appears to be the TokenGoodTeammate when compared to the other protagonist, key word being ''appears.'' She did after all, [[spoiler: still stand by Le'garde and decide to go through the effort of breaking him out of the dungeons even after having witnessed him raze Oldegård to the ground in pursuit of his goal.]] It begs the question of just ''how'' morally upstanding she actually is?
** D'arce appears to be the TokenGoodTeammate when compared to the other protagonist, key word being ''appears.'' She did after all, [[spoiler: still stand by Le'garde and decide to go through the effort of breaking him out of the dungeons even after having witnessed him raze Oldegård to the ground in pursuit of his goal.]] It begs the question of just ''how'' morally upstanding she actually is?
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** Cahara choosing to [[SoLongAndThanksForAllTheGear abscond from the party with a blue or light blue vial]] after bringing him out of the prison cell could be not just out of his usual selfishness but rather, pragmatism (he is a mercenary after all). It's implied he had fallen victim to the guards (and in [[PrisonRape different ways]]) and thus, could've gained injuries and had all his supplies used up, which could lead to him stealing the vials so that he could heal whatever injuries he might've sustained. Him leaving the party could either be from fear that it could end with him being arrested or imprisoned even after rescuing Le'garde, or distrust towards the player, which makes his nonchalant attitude if he does ''actually'' join your party somewhat make sense...sense.
*** ...or he really is just that selfish and the story about being caught by the guards was something he made([[GamePlayAndStorySegregation up([[GamePlayAndStorySegregation he does lack the injuries that player gains from losing to the guards]] when you find him).
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** D'arce appears to be the TokenGoodTeammate when compared to the otherprotagonist, protagonists, key word being ''appears.'' Despite being the most chivalrous among the four and with the clearest morals, her backstory and certain choices she can make, turns her TokenGoodTeammate status questionable. She did after all, [[spoiler: still stand by Le'garde and decide to go through the effort of breaking him out of the dungeons even after having witnessed him raze Oldegård to the ground in pursuit of his goal.]] Not once does she seem to show any hesitation towards following him to the end, or the implications behind his plan, in any interactions with her as a recruitable party member. [[spoiler: Her choice in her S-Ending to use Rebirth of the beloved on a dead Le'garde, despite lots of signs pointing to it not being a good idea just makes things worse.]] It begs the question of just ''how'' morally upstanding whether she would actually is?do the right thing or only what ''she'' believes to be right.
** Is Le'garde's desire to [[spoiler: become a god]] coming from a genuine place or simply vanity and narcissism? For one, the kingdom of Rondon is stated through bits of lore to be ridden with corruption and crime, and many of the [[CrapsackWorld other continents and kingdoms are implied to be no better.]] Yet in trying to reach his goal of obtaining peace, ''he is'' rather quick to using rather non-peaceful methods [[spoiler: if his actions in Oldegård are any indication]] or to try to achieve his goal [[spoiler: at the expense of an innocent child]]. Is it coming from a bit of both?
*** ...or he really is just that selfish and the story about being caught by the guards was something he made
** D'arce appears to be the TokenGoodTeammate when compared to the other
** Is Le'garde's desire to [[spoiler: become a god]] coming from a genuine place or simply vanity and narcissism? For one, the kingdom of Rondon is stated through bits of lore to be ridden with corruption and crime, and many of the [[CrapsackWorld other continents and kingdoms are implied to be no better.]] Yet in trying to reach his goal of obtaining peace, ''he is'' rather quick to using rather non-peaceful methods [[spoiler: if his actions in Oldegård are any indication]] or to try to achieve his goal [[spoiler: at the expense of an innocent child]]. Is it coming from a bit of both?
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** Cahara choosing to [[SoLongAndThanksForAllTheGear abscond from the party with a blue or light blue vial]] after bringing him out of the prison cell could be not just out of his usual selfishness but rather, pragmatism (he is a mercenary after all). It's implied he had fallen victim to the guards (and in [[PrisonRape different ways]]) and thus, could've gained injuries and had all his supplies used up, which could lead to him stealing the vials so that he could heal whatever injuries he might've sustained. Him leaving the party could either be from fear that it could end with him being arrested or imprisoned even after rescuing Le'garde, or distrust towards the player, which makes his nonchalant attitude if he does ''actually'' join your party somewhat make sense...or he really is just that selfish and the story about being caught by the guards was something he made ([[GamePlayAndStorySegregation he does lack the injuries that player gains from losing to the guards]] when you find him).
** D'arce appears to be the TokenGoodTeammate when compared to the other protagonist, key word being ''appears.'' She did after all, [[spoiler: still stand by Le'garde and decide to go through the effort of breaking him out of the dungeons even after having witnessed him raze Oldegård to the ground in pursuit of his goal.]] It begs the question of just ''how'' morally upstanding she actually is?
** Cahara choosing to [[SoLongAndThanksForAllTheGear abscond from the party with a blue or light blue vial]] after bringing him out of the prison cell could be not just out of his usual selfishness but rather, pragmatism (he is a mercenary after all). It's implied he had fallen victim to the guards (and in [[PrisonRape different ways]]) and thus, could've gained injuries and had all his supplies used up, which could lead to him stealing the vials so that he could heal whatever injuries he might've sustained. Him leaving the party could either be from fear that it could end with him being arrested or imprisoned even after rescuing Le'garde, or distrust towards the player, which makes his nonchalant attitude if he does ''actually'' join your party somewhat make sense...or he really is just that selfish and the story about being caught by the guards was something he made ([[GamePlayAndStorySegregation he does lack the injuries that player gains from losing to the guards]] when you find him).
** D'arce appears to be the TokenGoodTeammate when compared to the other protagonist, key word being ''appears.'' She did after all, [[spoiler: still stand by Le'garde and decide to go through the effort of breaking him out of the dungeons even after having witnessed him raze Oldegård to the ground in pursuit of his goal.]] It begs the question of just ''how'' morally upstanding she actually is?
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* MemeticLoser: D’arce has been developing a half serious reputation as one for a handful of reasons. Her status as a CrutchCharacter, the fact that Le’Garde will refuse to partake in a Marriage with her despite them being lovers, her S Ending [[spoiler: seeming like a very [[CameBackWrong ill thought out idea]]]] and her [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking unflattering haircut.]]
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* MemeticLoser: D’arce D'arce has been developing a half serious reputation as one for a handful of reasons. Her status as a CrutchCharacter, the fact that Le’Garde will refuse to partake in a Marriage with her despite them being lovers, her S Ending [[spoiler: seeming like a very [[CameBackWrong ill thought out idea]]]] and her [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking unflattering haircut.]]
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** The Girl '''good god,''' The Girl. From the moment she was born, her short life was nothing but torture and she never had the opportunity to experience any love or kindness, save for [[VideoGameCaringPotential if you choose to help her out of her cage and go out of you way to protect her.]] Even helping her out of her cage doesn't guarantee that things will get better seeing as the player [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential can offer]] her to the Human Hydra, a [[HumanSacrifice a ritual circle,]] or Pocketcat among all the other horrors experienced in the dungeon. Not to mention that fact that her parents planned to conceive her ''specifically'' to have a HumanSacrifice for what they believe to be the greater good. [[spoiler: [[FromBadToWorse It gets even worse]] if you go out of your way to get Ending A, where she becomes The God of Fear and Hunger.]]
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** The Girl Girl, '''good god,''' The Girl. From the moment she was born, her short life was nothing but torture and she never had the opportunity to experience any love or kindness, save for [[VideoGameCaringPotential if you choose to help her out of her cage and go out of you way to protect her.]] Even helping her out of her cage doesn't guarantee that things will get better seeing as the player [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential can offer]] her to the Human Hydra, a [[HumanSacrifice a ritual circle,]] or Pocketcat among all the other horrors experienced in the dungeon. Not to mention that the fact that her parents planned to conceive conceived her ''specifically'' to have a HumanSacrifice for what they believe to be the greater good. [[spoiler: [[FromBadToWorse It gets even worse]] if you go out of your way to get Ending A, where she becomes The God of Fear and Hunger.]]
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** Forming a Marriage is risky and treated as a desperate measure to survive the dungeons of Fear and Hunger, and the prospect of having to resort to a [[SexMagic Sylvian ritual]] with either a stranger you just met or a [[ILoveTheDead corpse]] can make it seem all the more unpleasant yet necessary. The characters, likewise, have rather appropriate responses to being invited to "Show Love" as part of the Marriage forming should they accept it...except for [[CloudCuckoolander Cahara]] who's rather casual about it to say the least. Special mention goes to him accepting it if you play as [[{{Hunk}} Ragnvaldr.]]
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** Forming a Marriage is risky and treated as a desperate measure to survive the dungeons of Fear and Hunger, and the prospect of having to resort to a [[SexMagic Sylvian ritual]] with either a stranger you just met or a [[ILoveTheDead corpse]] can make it seem all the more unpleasant uncomfortable yet necessary. The characters, likewise, have rather appropriate responses to being invited to "Show Love" as part of the Marriage forming should they accept it...except for [[CloudCuckoolander Cahara]] who's rather casual about it to say the least. Special mention goes to him accepting it if you play as [[{{Hunk}} Ragnvaldr.]]