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* StrawmanHasAPoint: When Melek is framed for a crime against Macide by Kiymet, who was the true culprit, most viewers arguably state that the fact that she couldn't bring herself to explain she was using a fake name (Serse) out of fear that Tarik would find and kill her didn't help her case, and if she had told the Haktanirs about this before, [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot maybe this whole conflict could've been avoided]].
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: When Melek is framed for a crime against Macide by Kiymet, who was the true culprit, most viewers arguably state that the fact that she couldn't bring herself to explain she was using a fake name (Serse) out of fear that Tarik would find and kill her didn't help her case, and if she had told the Haktanirs about this before, [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot maybe this whole conflict could've been avoided]].avoided.
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Reyhan in Season 4 won over the viewers for her fondess of Elif and CoolBigSis role.
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Reyhan in Season 4 won over the viewers for her fondess of Elif and CoolBigSis role. They even felt bad for Reyhan when she left the mansion, which was because of Parla.
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Reyhan in Season 4 won over the viewers for her fondess of Elif and CoolBigSis role.
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* TakeThatScrappy: In season 5, it is revealed that Tarik was beaten to death by the prison inmates.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Kerem in season 5 behaves like a full-blown jerk when Melek is wrongly accused for giving wrong medication to Macide, and never shows any remorse when she's separated from Elif while in prison, not helping matters is that Elif overhears him cruelly insulting her mother, something that makes him just as odious and unsympathetic compared to the other villainous characters. Emirhan, Julide's son, also acts like a total brat when his birth father Tufan manipulates him into turning on Safak and refuses to listen to his mother's warnings about Tufan.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Kerem in season 5 behaves like a full-blown jerk when Melek is wrongly accused for giving wrong medication to Macide, and never shows any remorse when she's separated from Elif while in prison, not helping matters is that Elif overhears him cruelly insulting her mother, something that makes him just as odious and unsympathetic compared to the other villainous characters. Emirhan, Julide's son, also acts like a total brat when his birth father Tufan manipulates him into turning on Safak and refuses to listen to his mother's warnings about Tufan. Safak's mother Leman, is also despised because of her petty hatred for Julide and disapproving the relationship with her son.
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* CatharsisFactor:
**Tarik getting arrested by police for the embezzlement on the company is extremely satisfying for everything he's done to Elif and Melek.
**No one was crying either when Kiymet got arrested in the finale, given that she had murdered her sister, abused Elif a lot, had Melek unjustly thrown in prison and tried multiple times to get away with her cruel actions.
**Tarik getting arrested by police for the embezzlement on the company is extremely satisfying for everything he's done to Elif and Melek.
**No one was crying either when Kiymet got arrested in the finale, given that she had murdered her sister, abused Elif a lot, had Melek unjustly thrown in prison and tried multiple times to get away with her cruel actions.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Kiymet crosses it in the finale when she murders Macide, her own sister, by shooting her, and even attempting to kill Mahir and Kerem. By this time, is made crystal clear that Kiymet is beyond any redemption, so she justifiably deserved to be arrested for all her malicious actions.
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** Mahir, Kiymet's son, also became a very debatable character as he was torn between helping Melek get out of prison due to his feelings for her and scheming with his mother to exact her revenge on the Haktanirs. He even refused to believe at first that Kiymet would be capable of having Melek framed for a crime she didn't commit, and instead was willing put all the blame on the already dead Tarik.
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** Mahir, Kiymet's son, also became a very debatable character as he was torn between helping Melek get out of prison due to his feelings for her and scheming with his mother to exact her revenge on the Haktanirs. He even refused to believe at first that Kiymet would be capable of having Melek framed for a crime she didn't commit, and instead he was willing to put all the blame on the already dead Tarik.Tarik instead.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Is Melek a loving MamaBear who wants to get her daughter Elif back or just an ExtremeDoormat who can't even fight back or stand up for herself when the situation calls for it?
* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Kerem in season 5 behaves like a full-blown jerk when Melek is wrongly accused for giving wrong medication to Macide, and never shows any remorse when she's separated from Elif while in prison, not helping matters is that Elif overhears him cruelly insulting her mother. Emirhan, Julide's son, also acts like a total brat when his birth father Tufan manipulates him into turning on Safak and refuses to listen to his mother's warnings about Tufan.
* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Kerem in season 5 behaves like a full-blown jerk when Melek is wrongly accused for giving wrong medication to Macide, and never shows any remorse when she's separated from Elif while in prison, not helping matters is that Elif overhears him cruelly insulting her mother. Emirhan, Julide's son, also acts like a total brat when his birth father Tufan manipulates him into turning on Safak and refuses to listen to his mother's warnings about Tufan.
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**Is Melek a loving MamaBear who wants to get her daughter Elif back or just an ExtremeDoormat who can't even fight back or stand up for herself when the situation calls for it?
**Mahir, Kiymet's son, also became a very debatable character as he was torn between helping Melek get out of prison due to his feelings for her and scheming with his mother to exact her revenge on the Haktanirs. He even refused to believe at first that Kiymet would be capable of having Melek framed for a crime she didn't commit, and instead was willing put all the blame on the already dead Tarik.
* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Kerem in season 5 behaves like a full-blown jerk when Melek is wrongly accused for giving wrong medication to Macide, and never shows any remorse when she's separated from Elif while in prison, not helping matters is that Elif overhears him cruelly insulting hermother.mother, something that makes him just as odious and unsympathetic compared to the other villainous characters. Emirhan, Julide's son, also acts like a total brat when his birth father Tufan manipulates him into turning on Safak and refuses to listen to his mother's warnings about Tufan.
**Is Melek a loving MamaBear who wants to get her daughter Elif back or just an ExtremeDoormat who can't even fight back or stand up for herself when the situation calls for it?
**Mahir, Kiymet's son, also became a very debatable character as he was torn between helping Melek get out of prison due to his feelings for her and scheming with his mother to exact her revenge on the Haktanirs. He even refused to believe at first that Kiymet would be capable of having Melek framed for a crime she didn't commit, and instead was willing put all the blame on the already dead Tarik.
* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Kerem in season 5 behaves like a full-blown jerk when Melek is wrongly accused for giving wrong medication to Macide, and never shows any remorse when she's separated from Elif while in prison, not helping matters is that Elif overhears him cruelly insulting her
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Is Melek a loving MamaBear who wants to get her daughter Elif back or just an ExtremeDoormat who can't even fight back or stand up for herself when the situation calls for it?
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: When Melek is framed for a crime against Macide by Kiymet, who was the true culprit, most viewers arguably state that the fact that she couldn't bring herself to explain she was using a fake name (Serse) out of fear that Tarik would find and kill her didn't help her case, and if she had told the Haktanirs about this before, [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot maybe this whole conflict could've been avoided]].
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Most of the show basically revolves around the bad guys making Elif and Melek's lives a living hell, trying by any means to harm, torture kidnap or kill them at any cost with ZERO guilt, attributed to the fact that it has a long amount of episodes that makes it seem like an eternal depressing story. [[HopeSpot And whenever it seems that mother and daughter are about to have a happy ending, it is proven otherwise]]. So it's no surprise that most viewers have grown tired of watching the show to the point of harshly condemning it over its looming themes, even when the bad guys become much more evil and less sympathetic throughout the story's run, and some of the good characters either make stupid decisions or become plain jerks for petty reasons.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Kerem in season 5 behaves like a full-blown jerk when Melek is wrongly accused for giving wrong medication to Macide, and never shows any remorse when she's separated from Elif while in prison, not helping matters is that Elif overhears him cruelly insulting her mother. Emirhan, Julide's son, also acts like a total brat when his birth father Tufan manipulates him into turning on Safak and refuses to listen to his mother's warnings about Tufan.
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Most of the show basically revolves around the bad guys making Elif and Melek's lives a living hell, trying by any means to harm, torture kidnap or kill them at any cost with ZERO guilt, attributed to the fact that it has a long amount of episodes that makes it seem like an eternal depressing story. [[HopeSpot And whenever it seems that mother and daughter are about to have a happy ending, it is proven otherwise]]. So it's no surprise that most viewers have grown tired of watching the show to the point of harshly condemning it over its looming themes, even when the bad guys become much more evil and less sympathetic throughout the story's run, and some of the good characters either make stupid decisions or become plain jerks for pettyreasons.reasons.
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Most of the show basically revolves around the bad guys making Elif and Melek's lives a living hell, trying by any means to harm, torture kidnap or kill them at any cost with ZERO guilt, attributed to the fact that it has a long amount of episodes that makes it seem like an eternal depressing story. [[HopeSpot And whenever it seems that mother and daughter are about to have a happy ending, it is proven otherwise]]. So it's no surprise that most viewers have grown tired of watching the show to the point of harshly condemning it over its looming themes, even when the bad guys become much more evil and less sympathetic throughout the story's run, and some of the good characters either make stupid decisions or become plain jerks for petty
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Most of the show basically revolves around the bad guys making Elif and Melek's lives a living hell, trying by any means to harm, torture kidnap or kill them at any cost with ZERO guilt, attributed to the fact that it has a long amount of episodes that makes it seem like an eternal depressing story. [[HopeSpot And whenever it seems that mother and daughter are about to have a happy ending, it is proven otherwise]]. So it's no surprise that most viewers have grown tired of watching the show to the point of harshly condemning it over its looming themes, even when the bad guys become much more evil and less sympathetic throughout the story's run, and some of the good characters either make stupid decisions or become plain jerks for petty reasons.
