History YMMV / Dune

* MostlyNarmless: Duncan Idaho's death scenes in both movie adaptations of the first novel. Especially the one in the miniseries.

** The 2000 miniseries also has a woman playing Paul's love interest, Chani, who is positively ''voluptuous.'' Chani is supposed to be a Fremen, and Fremen aren't supposed to have any body fat.

** The Lynch film does have the 30ish Kyle Mclachlan playing a ''15 year old'' Paul; and Feyd played by Sting - ''the singer Sting''.

** The Lynch version suffered from ExecutiveMeddling, extensive voiceover exposition, some "[[AdaptationDecay imaginative]]" [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot changes]] from the novel, and often an overly "80s feel".

* FanonDiscontinuity: Many fans vehemently refuse to acknowledge any ''Dune'' books not written by Frank Herbert. Herbert's son Brian and Kevin J. Anderson wrote two prequel series as well as a sequel series of two novels. Both [[ReadersAreMorons differences in writing style]], as well as [[{{Understatement}} serious inconsistencies]] with the original material, contribute to this reaction.

* MoralEventHorizon: An in-universe occurs in the prequel novel ''House Harkonnen'' when [[spoiler:Rabban murders his own father in cold blood.]] He immediately and ''proudly'' takes on the moniker "Beast" after the foul deed is done.

** Also, the Herbert Jr. and Anderson books are often nicknamed "[[InNameOnly Mc Dune]]", since they are often accused of having ridiculous amounts of CanonDiscontinuity, CharacterDerailment, {{Flanderization}}, ShrugOfGod and [[BadWriting overall shoddy]] [[ClicheStorm writing quality]]. What's worse is that a lot of these accusations are often very close to [[SoBadItsHorrible reality]].

* WTHCostumeAgency: The 2000 SciFi miniseries is infamous for this. The hats. Oh god, the hats...

* WTHCostumingAgency: The 2000 SciFi miniseries is infamous for this. The hats. Oh god, the hats...

* CharacterDerailment: Much occurs in the prequels, compared to the original series. Fenring going from a ManipulativeBastard to a CompleteMonster, Shaddam going from [[AntiVillain a vicious but competent Emperor]] to a petty tyrant, etc.

* FanDiscontinuity: Many fans vehemently refuse to acknowledge any ''Dune'' books not written by Frank Herbert. Herbert's son Brian and Kevin J. Anderson wrote two prequel series as well as a sequel series of two novels. Both [[ReadersAreMorons differences in writing style]], as well as [[{{Understatement}} serious inconsistencies]] with the original material, contribute to this reaction.

* FanNickname: TheVerse: "Duniverse" is the standard usage.

* BrokenBase: While most fans agree about the [[{{Sequelitis}} quality]] of the non-Frank Herbert novels (even if some still accept them), there is significant friction between fans of the DavidLynch and SciFiChannel movie adaptations. Hell, evidence of it is available on these very pages ! Criticisms of each side:
** The Lynch version suffered from ExecutiveMeddling, extensive voiceover exposition, some "[[AdaptationDecay imaginative]]" changes from the novel, and often an overly "80s feel".
** ** The casting, acting, and costumes have been criticized by [[BrokenBase both sides]].
** The SciFi version of the first novel had the budget you'd expect for a cable miniseries and is more of an attempt at a TV drama than an outright movie epic. The issue is complicated by the SciFiChannel Children of Dune sequel (which includes the events of Dune Messiah), which is generally accepted as much higher quality, as well as being the only adaptation of the sequels on film. Since most actors reprised their roles, it's hard to "choose" the Lynch version of the original and still accept the sequel.

* BrokenBase: While most fans agree about the [[{{Sequelitis}} quality]] of the non-Frank Herbert novels (even if some still accept them), there is significant friction between fans of the DavidLynch and SciFiChannel movie adaptations. Evidence is available on this very page! Criticisms of each side:
** The Lynch version suffered from ExecutiveMeddling, extensive voiceover exposition, some "imaginative" changes from the novel, and often an "80s feel".
** The SciFi version had the budget you'd expect for a cable miniseries.
** The casting, acting, and costumes have been criticized by [[BrokenBase both sides]].
** The issue is complicated by the SciFiChannel Children of Dune sequel (which includes the events of Dune Messiah), which is generally accepted as much higher quality, as well as being the only adaptation of the sequels on film. Since most actors reprised their roles, it's hard to "choose" the Lynch version of the original and still accept the sequel.
* CharacterDerailment: Much occurs in the prequels, compared to the original series. Fenring going from a ManipulativeBastard to a CompleteMonster, Shaddam going from a vicious but competent Emperor to a petty tyrant, etc.

** Rabban is an example of a deliberate CompleteMonster, nicknamed "The Beast" for his brutal suppression of dissidence; the Baron sends him to Arrakis precisely to make everyone hate him so much that Feyd-Rautha will look like a savior by comparison. There are elements in the novels that suggest being a CompleteMonster is InTheBlood for the Harkonnens.

** To be fair, they stated in the foreword to ''Hunters'' that they would not try to imitate The Herbert's style. And, if read on their own, the books are tolerable.

** There aren't any names applied to characters or concepts in-universe, but many have cropped up to describe {{Fandom}} opinion. Those that only consider the books written by FrankHerbert refer to themselves as "Orthodox Herbertarians", while fans of the prequels and sequels by Brian and KevinJAnderson are called [[IncrediblyLamePun "preeqs"]]. Also, the Herbert Jr. and Anderson books are often nicknamed "[[InNameOnly Mc Dune]]", since they are often accused of having ricidulous amounts of CanonDiscontinuity, CharacterDerailment, {{Flanderization}}, ShrugOfGod and [[BadWriting overall shoddy]] [[ClicheStorm writing quality]]. What's worse is that a lot of these accusations are often very close to [[SoBadItsHorrible reality]].

* InkStainAdaptation: For the more sophisticated readers, the prequels and sequels by Kevin J Anderson have kept them from the original series for fear it also caters to the LowestCommonDenominator. For fans of the new work... Well, they're in for a surprise if they try the originals.

** There aren't any names applied to characters or concepts in-universe, but many have cropped up to describe {{Fandom}} opinion. Those that only consider the books written by FrankHerbert refer to themselves as "Orthodox Herbertarians", while fans of the prequels and sequels by Brian and KevinJAnderson are called [[IncrediblyLamePun "preeqs"]]. Also, the Herbert Jr. and Anderson books are often nicknamed "[[InNameOnly Mc Dune]]", since they are often accused of having ricidulous amounts of CanonDiscontinuity, CharacterDerailment, {{Flanderization}}, ShrugOfGod and overall shoddy writing quality. What's worse is that a lot of these accusations are often very close to [[SoBadItsHorrible reality]].
* GodModeSue: Paul Atreides is famously this. Paul has all the earmarks of a Gary Stu: son of an influential Duke, trained by the best swordsmen and tacticians in the galaxy, trained as a Mentat human computer, one of the few males trained in the "Weirding Way" of the Bene Gesserit sisterhood, prophetic powers, destined to become a galactic Messiah, and gaining leadership of the most BadAssArmy in the Imperium. It turns out [[spoiler:being a Messiah sucks, and he ends a far worse tyrant than those he replaced. He's also unable to prevent the death of the woman he loves.]]

** The box-office failure of the 1984 movie kept another adaptation away until 2000.

** There aren't any names applied to characters or concepts in-universe, but many have cropped up to describe {{Fandom}} opinion. Those that only consider the books written by FrankHerbert refer to themselves as "Orthodox Herbertarians", while fans of the prequels and sequels by Brian and KevinJAnderson are called [[IncrediblyLamePun "preeqs"]]. Also, the Herbert Jr. and Anderson books are often nicknamed "[[InNameOnly Mc Dune]]", since they are often accused of having ricidulous amounts of CanonDiscontinuity, CharacterDerailment, {{Flanderization}}, ShrugOfGod and overall shoddy writing quality.

* FanNickname: There aren't any names applied to characters or concepts in-universe, but many have cropped up to describe {{Fandom}} opinion.
** Those that only consider the books written by FrankHerbert refer to themselves as "Orthodox Herbertarians", while fans of the prequels and sequels by Brian and KevinJAnderson are called [[IncrediblyLamePun "preeqs"]].
** TheVerse: "Duniverse" is the standard usage.

** The Lynch version suffered from ExecutiveMeddling, extensive voiceover filler, some "imaginative" changes from the novel, and often an "80s feel".
** The SciFi version had the budget you'd expect for a cable miniseries, and some costumes were pretty ridiculous.

* BrokenBase: While most fans agree about the quality of the non-Frank Herbert novels (even if some still accept them), there is significant friction between fans of the DavidLynch and SciFiChannel movie adaptations. Evidence is available on this very page! Criticisms of each side:

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*** The non-canonical Encyclopedia of Dune hypothesizes that "in the blood" is literal, and goes into detail as to how this affects the psychology and actions of several key characters (including [[spoiler:Paul and Leto II]]).