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* IKnewIt: While not in a way that was expected, many fans correctly guessed that Glomgold's South African roots from the comics would addressed at some point.


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** In the first season, Glomgold, while amusing, slowly became a joke by the finale since, apart from "Woo-oo" and "The Golden Lagoon of White Agony Plains", he never did anything villainous. Here, he challenges Scrooge to a contest to see who is the Richest Duck in the World by the year's end, winner get loser's company. And how does Glomgold entice Scrooge to accept his challenge? By revealing he stole Scrooge's money clip all those years ago in South Africa.
** For some, the fact that this is the first episode where Dewey is absent is this for those who thought he got too much attention in the first season.
** This is also the first episode post Season 1 finale to address the fallout of some of the events that occurred then.
** A lot of people criticized how Scrooge had little involvement in the story arcs for season 1 and was mainly a supporting character. This episode begins a season-long arc for him competing against Glomgold, allowing him to have a more active role.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Scrooge didn't necessarily shortchange Duke. Duke said nothing of the price for the shoeshine until after he was paid the dime, and appeared to add to the cost just to spite Scrooge (saying spats are extra, when he said nothing of the sort when Scrooge asked if he could shine spats). Considering this and the fact that from what we see Duke only even worked on ONE spat, Scrooge may well have had potential justification to not pay him full price for subpar and deceptive service (though Scrooge was the one who cut the shoeshine service short and said nothing to indicate he was dissatisfied with the service).

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Scrooge didn't necessarily shortchange Duke. Duke said nothing of the price for the shoeshine until after he was paid the dime, and appeared to add to the cost just to spite Scrooge (saying spats are extra, when he said nothing of the sort when Scrooge asked if he could shine spats). Considering this and the fact that from what we see Duke only even worked on ONE spat, Scrooge may well have had potential justification to not pay him full price for subpar and deceptive service (though Scrooge was the one who cut the shoeshine service short and said nothing to indicate he was dissatisfied with the service).
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* GrowingTheBeard: For Season 2, the show in general, and for the writing team in general. Many reviews note that making Glomgold, a one-dimensional villain from the original cartoon and the comics, into a complex villain with a compelling motivation and characterisation while still maintaining his LaughablyEvil persona was an incredible feat for the show. Keith Ferguson's voice-performance, the animation, and the storytelling is also seen on a higher level than the first two episodes of Season 2. [[note]]Flintheart also happens to grow a big bushy SeadogBeard in the episode, but that's not what this trope is about.[[/note]]

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* GrowingTheBeard: For Season 2, the show in general, and for the writing team in general. Many reviews note that making Glomgold, a one-dimensional villain from the original cartoon and the comics, into a complex villain with a compelling motivation and characterisation while still maintaining his LaughablyEvil persona was an incredible feat for the show. Keith Ferguson's voice-performance, the animation, and the storytelling is also seen on a higher level than the first two episodes of Season 2. [[note]]Flintheart also happens to grow a big bushy SeadogBeard in the episode, but that's not what this trope is about.[[/note]]
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* GrowingTheBeard: For Season 2, the show in general, and for the writing team in general. Many reviews note that making Glomgold, a one-dimensional villain from the original cartoon and the comics, into a complex villain with a compelling motivation and characterisation while still maintaining his LaughablyEvil persona was an incredible feat for the show. Keith Ferguson's voice-performance, the animation, and the storytelling is also seen on a higher level than the first two episodes of Season 2.

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* GrowingTheBeard: For Season 2, the show in general, and for the writing team in general. Many reviews note that making Glomgold, a one-dimensional villain from the original cartoon and the comics, into a complex villain with a compelling motivation and characterisation while still maintaining his LaughablyEvil persona was an incredible feat for the show. Keith Ferguson's voice-performance, the animation, and the storytelling is also seen on a higher level than the first two episodes of Season 2. [[note]]Flintheart also happens to grow a big bushy SeadogBeard in the episode, but that's not what this trope is about.[[/note]]
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Scrooge didn't necessarily shortchange Duke. Duke said nothing of the price for the shoeshine until after he was paid the dime, and appeared to add to the cost just to spite Scrooge (saying spats are extra, when he said nothing of the sort when Scrooge asked if he could shine spats). Considering this and the fact that from what we see Duke only even worked on ONE spat, Scrooge may well have had potential justification to not pay him full price for subpar and deceptive service.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Scrooge didn't necessarily shortchange Duke. Duke said nothing of the price for the shoeshine until after he was paid the dime, and appeared to add to the cost just to spite Scrooge (saying spats are extra, when he said nothing of the sort when Scrooge asked if he could shine spats). Considering this and the fact that from what we see Duke only even worked on ONE spat, Scrooge may well have had potential justification to not pay him full price for subpar and deceptive service.service (though Scrooge was the one who cut the shoeshine service short and said nothing to indicate he was dissatisfied with the service).
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* FourthWallMyopia: It can be easy to forget that when Scrooge takes out a huge wad of cash tied with a gold money clip, visibly changes his mind, then tosses Duke a dime instead, while ''we the audience'' know Scrooge is reminded of his younger self and wants to inspire him the way he was inspired as a kid, ''Duke'' isn't privy to that background knowledge, so from ''his'' perspective it looks like an obviously rich duck with cash to burn made the conscious decision to short-change him (especially since a dime would be worth less due to inflation). Scrooge revealing he's "the richest duck in the world" (but still won't pay full price) [[NotHelpingYourCase just further hurts his case]], and makes his gesture of "teaching you self-reliance" come across as CondescendingCompassion. ([[DisproportionateRetribution How Duke reacted was still extreme, though]].)

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* FourthWallMyopia: It can be easy to forget that when Scrooge takes out a huge wad of cash tied with a gold money clip, visibly changes his mind, then tosses Duke a dime instead, while ''we the audience'' know Scrooge is reminded of his younger self and wants to inspire him the way he was inspired as a kid, ''Duke'' isn't privy to that background knowledge, so from ''his'' perspective it looks like an obviously rich duck with cash to burn made the conscious decision to short-change him (especially since a dime would be worth less due to inflation).inflation and unlike in Scotland, it's legal tender). Scrooge revealing he's "the richest duck in the world" (but still won't pay full price) [[NotHelpingYourCase just further hurts his case]], and makes his gesture of "teaching you self-reliance" come across as CondescendingCompassion. ([[DisproportionateRetribution How Duke reacted was still extreme, though]].)
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* FourthWallMyopia: It can be easy to forget that when Scrooge takes out a huge wad of cash tied with a gold money clip, visibly changes his mind, then tosses Duke a dime instead, while ''we the audience'' know Scrooge is reminded of his younger self and wants to inspire him the way he was inspired as a kid, ''Duke'' isn't privy to that background knowledge, so from ''his'' perspective it looks like an obviously rich duck with cash to burn made the conscious decision to short-change him. Scrooge revealing he's "the richest duck in the world" (but still won't pay full price) [[NotHelpingYourCase just further hurts his case]], and makes his gesture of "teaching you self-reliance" come across as CondescendingCompassion. ([[DisproportionateRetribution How Duke reacted was still extreme, though]].)

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* FourthWallMyopia: It can be easy to forget that when Scrooge takes out a huge wad of cash tied with a gold money clip, visibly changes his mind, then tosses Duke a dime instead, while ''we the audience'' know Scrooge is reminded of his younger self and wants to inspire him the way he was inspired as a kid, ''Duke'' isn't privy to that background knowledge, so from ''his'' perspective it looks like an obviously rich duck with cash to burn made the conscious decision to short-change him.him (especially since a dime would be worth less due to inflation). Scrooge revealing he's "the richest duck in the world" (but still won't pay full price) [[NotHelpingYourCase just further hurts his case]], and makes his gesture of "teaching you self-reliance" come across as CondescendingCompassion. ([[DisproportionateRetribution How Duke reacted was still extreme, though]].)
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* FourthWallMyopia: It can be easy to forget that when Scrooge takes out a huge wad of cash tied with a gold money clip, visibly changes his mind, then tosses Duke a dime instead, while ''we the audience'' know Scrooge is reminded of his younger self and wants to inspire him the way he was inspired as a kid, ''Duke'' isn't privy to that background knowledge, so from ''his'' perspective it looks like an obviously rich duck with cash to burn made the conscious decision to short-change him. Scrooge revealing he's "the richest duck in the world" (but still won't pay full price) [[NotHelpingYourCase just further hurts his case]], and makes his gesture of "teaching you self-reliance" come across as CondescendingCompassion. ([[DisproportionateRetribution How Duke reacted was still extreme, though]].)

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Scrooge didn't necessarily shortchange Duke. Duke said nothing of the price for the shoeshine until after he was paid the dime, and appeared to add to the cost just to spite Scrooge (saying spats are extra, when he said nothing of the sort when Scrooge asked if he could shine spats). Considering this and the fact that from what we see Duke only even worked on ONE spat, Scrooge may well have had potential justification to not pay him full price for subpar and deceptive service.

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AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Scrooge didn't necessarily shortchange Duke. Duke said nothing of the price for the shoeshine until after he was paid the dime, and appeared to add to the cost just to spite Scrooge (saying spats are extra, when he said nothing of the sort when Scrooge asked if he could shine spats). Considering this and the fact that from what we see Duke only even worked on ONE spat, Scrooge may well have had potential justification to not pay him full price for subpar and deceptive service.
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** In the first season, Glomgold, while amusing, slowly became a joke by the finale since, apart from "Woo-Hoo" and "The Plains of White Agony", he never did anything villainous. Here, he challenges Scrooge to a contest to see who is the Richest Duck in the World by the year's end, winner get loser's company. And how does Glomgold entice Scrooge to accept his challenge? By revealing he stole Scrooge's money clip all those years ago in South Africa.

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** In the first season, Glomgold, while amusing, slowly became a joke by the finale since, apart from "Woo-Hoo" "Woo-oo" and "The Plains Golden Lagoon of White Agony", Agony Plains", he never did anything villainous. Here, he challenges Scrooge to a contest to see who is the Richest Duck in the World by the year's end, winner get loser's company. And how does Glomgold entice Scrooge to accept his challenge? By revealing he stole Scrooge's money clip all those years ago in South Africa.
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** A lot of people criticized how Scrooge had little involvement in the story arcs for season 1 and was mainly a supporting character. This episode begins a season-long arc for him competing against Glomgold, allowing him to have a more active role.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Scrooge didn't necessarily shortchange Duke. Duke said nothing of the price for the shoeshine until after he was paid the dime, and appeared to add to the cost just to spite Scrooge (saying spats are extra, when he said nothing of the sort when Scrooge asked if he could shine spats). Considering this and the fact that from what we see Duke only even worked on ONE spat, Scrooge may well have had potential justification to not pay him full price for subpar and deceptive service.
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** This is also the first episode post Season 1 finale to address the fallout of some of the events that occurred then.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fisher and Mann, the two fisher people who take Glomgold in, prove to be rather popular thanks to their quirky behavior and general niceness. Their [[Creator/JohnDiMaggio voices]] [[Creator/GreyDeLisle also]] help out.

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Fisher and Mann, the two fisher people who take Glomgold in, prove to be rather popular thanks to their quirky behavior and general niceness. Their [[Creator/JohnDiMaggio voices]] [[Creator/GreyDeLisle also]] help out.
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** Zan Owlson is also becoming popular, due to her potential as a {{foil}} to both Glomgold and Scrooge.
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* GrowingTheBeard: For Season 2, the show in general, and for the writing team in general. Many reviews note that making Glomgold, a one-dimensional villain from the original cartoon and the comics, into a complex villain with a compelling motivation and characterisation while still maintaining his LaughablyEvil persona was an incredible feat for the show. Keith Ferguson's voice-performance, the animation, and the storytelling is also seen on a higher level than the first two episodes of Season 2.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fisher and Mann, the two fisher people who take Glomgold in, prove to be rather popular thanks to their quirky behavior and general niceness. Their [[Creator/JohnDiMaggio voices]] [[Creator/GreyDeLisle also]] help out.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fisher and Mann, the two fisher people who take Glomgold in, prove to be rather popular thanks to their quirky behavior and general niceness. Their [[Creator/JohnDiMaggio voices]] [[Creator/GreyDeLisle also]] help out.out.
* JerkassWoobie: Seeing Glomgold's emotionally compelling backstory made many people feel sorry, not so much for Glomgold himself, but for Duke Baloney, the boy he was and the man he could have been, and which he is, during his amnesiac stage.
* {{Moe}}: Kid Glomgold, aka Duke Baloney the South-African shoeshine boy, is a really cute kid, and he had the capacity to be a good person if he didn't give in to ThePowerOfHate.

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** For some, the fact that this is the first episode where Dewey is absent is this for those who thought he got too much attention in the first season.

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** For some, the fact that this is the first episode where Dewey is absent is this for those who thought he got too much attention in the first season.season.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fisher and Mann, the two fisher people who take Glomgold in, prove to be rather popular thanks to their quirky behavior and general niceness. Their [[Creator/JohnDiMaggio voices]] [[Creator/GreyDeLisle also]] help out.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In the first season, Glomgold, while amusing, slowly became a joke by the finale.since, apart from "Woo-Hoo" and "The Plains of White Agony", he never did anything villainous. Here he challenges Scrooge to a contest to see who is the Richest Duck in the World by the year's end, winner get loser's company. And how does Glomgold entice Scrooge to accept his challenge? By revealing he stole Scrooge's money clip all those years ago in South Africa.

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In the first season, Glomgold, while amusing, slowly became a joke by the finale.finale since, apart from "Woo-Hoo" and "The Plains of White Agony", he never did anything villainous. Here Here, he challenges Scrooge to a contest to see who is the Richest Duck in the World by the year's end, winner get loser's company. And how does Glomgold entice Scrooge to accept his challenge? By revealing he stole Scrooge's money clip all those years ago in South Africa.Africa.
** For some, the fact that this is the first episode where Dewey is absent is this for those who thought he got too much attention in the first season.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In the first season, Glomgold while amusing slowly became a joke by the finale, since apart from "Woo-Hoo" and "The Plains of White Agony", he never did anything villainous. Here he challenges Scrooge to a contest to see who is the Richest Duck in the World by the year's end, winner get loser's company. And how does Glomgold entice Scrooge to accept his challenge? By revealing he stole Scrooge's money clip all those years ago in South Africa.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In the first season, Glomgold Glomgold, while amusing amusing, slowly became a joke by the finale, since finale.since, apart from "Woo-Hoo" and "The Plains of White Agony", he never did anything villainous. Here he challenges Scrooge to a contest to see who is the Richest Duck in the World by the year's end, winner get loser's company. And how does Glomgold entice Scrooge to accept his challenge? By revealing he stole Scrooge's money clip all those years ago in South Africa.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In the first season, Glomgold while amusing slowly became a joke by the finale, since apart from "Woo-Hoo" and "The Plains of White Agony", he never did anything villainous. Here he challenges Scrooge to a contest to see who is the Richest Duck in the World by the year's end, winner get loser's company. And how does Glomgold entice Scrooge to accept his challenge? By revealing he stole Scrooge's money clip all those years ago in South Africa.

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