History YMMV / DragonQuestII

*** It is possible to encounter the Gold Batboon as soon as you exit the Cave of Rhone on your way to the shrine to save, meaning you have to do the hardest area in the game ''all over again''. And hopefully you didn't use up all your MP to try StopSpell and that the RNG allows the spell to hit.

*** It is possible to encounter the Gold Batboon as soon as you exit the Cave of Rhone on your way to the shrine to save, meaning you have to do the hardest area in the game ''all over again''.

* InferredHolocaust: All the towns on the continent of Alefgard from ''VideoGame/DragonQuestI'' and ''VideoGame/DragonQuestIII'' are gone except Tantegel Castle and Brecconary (which have merged into one location). Of course, [[TheLawOfConservationOfDetail this is because the designers wouldn't or couldn't add all those locations]] and it's possible you're meant to imagine that the towns still exist but you can't access them (like how in early console {{RPGs}} the player is [[OverworldNotToScale usually expected to imagine that the game world is much more populated than it appears]]), but assuming that all of Alefgard (the places occupied by humans, anyway) has been wiped out except for one town which was forced to move behind castle walls is definitely a valid interpretation.

** It should be mentioned however that Gold Batboons really only appear in the final section of the overworld, and right where you can save as well. Typically if you are hit by their Sacrifice spell, it'll only be when you're grinding here, and since you don't lose your experience when you die (which is what is really important at this point in the game), and thus don't really lose your progress either (you're sent right back to the shrine on the overworld here where you've saved), it's little more than an annoyance. If they appeared in the middle of the final dungeon crawl, that would be a different story.

** Frankly, Bazuzu and Zarlox can potentially also spam Healall if you're incredibly unlucky. Atlas is the only one of the five final bosses who doesn't have Healall, and Hargon is the only one of the five that you can silence with Stopspell. That said, in all my many years of playing this game, this troper has never seen such an unwinnable situation happen with any of these bosses.

* [[ThatOneBoss That One Final Boss]]: In a series of relatively tough to just plain hard bosses, Malroth is just plain cheap. As of this moment of typing, he's the ONLY DragonQuest final boss to have Fullheal. Not that bad in the NES version, as he only has 250 HP, but in the remix? He's got SEVEN times that much. Even if it doesn't heal all 1750, 999 is a real "up yours" to the effort you just put into knocking that off him.

* EnsembleDarkhorse: While never addressed in canon or other games, quite a few fans are fond of the Princess of Cannock, making up little stories and fanart for her. She did get something of a role via an {{Expy}} in Kiefer's sister, Leeza, in ''VideoGame/DragonQuestVII'', but the personalities of these two are quite different.

* InferredHolocaust: All the towns on the continent of Alefgard from ''VideoGame/DragonQuestI'' and ''VideoGame/DragonQuestIII'' are gone except Tantegel Castle and Brecconary (which have merged into one location). Of course, [[TheLawOfConservationOfDetail this is because the designers wouldn't or couldn't add all those locations]] and it's possible you're meant to imagine that the towns still exist but you can't access them (like how in early console {{RPGs}} the player is [[OverworldNotToScale usually expected to imagine that the game world is much more populated than it appears]]), but assuming that all of Alefgard has been wiped out except for one town which was forced to move behind castle walls is definitely a valid interpretation.

* InferredHolocaust: All the towns on the continent of Alefgard from ''VideoGame/DragonQuestI'' and ''VideoGame/DragonQuestIII'' are gone except Tantegel Castle and Brecconary (which have merged into one location). Of course, this is because the designers wouldn't or couldn't add all those locations and it's possible you're meant to imagine that the towns still exist but you can't access them (like how in early console {{RPGs}} the player is usually expected to imagine that the game world is much more populated than it appears), but assuming that all of Alefgard has been wiped out except for one town which was forced to move behind castle walls is definitely a valid interpretation.

* InferredHolocaust: All the towns on the continent of Alefgard from ''VideoGame/DragonQuestI'' and ''VideoGame/DragonQuestIII'' are gone except Tantegel Castle and Brecconary (which have merged into one location). Of course, this is because the designers wouldn't or couldn't add all those locations and it's possible you're meant to imagine that the towns still exist but you can't access them (like how in early console RPGs the player is usually expected to imagine that the game world is much more populated than it appears), but assuming that all of Alefgard has been wiped out except for one town which was forced to move behind castle walls is definitely a valid interpretation.

* InferredHolocaust: All the towns on the continent of Alefgard from ''VideoGame/DragonQuestI'' and ''VideoGame/DragonQuestIII'' are gone except Tantegel Castle and Brecconary (which have merged into one location). Of course, this is because the designers wouldn't or couldn't add all those locations and it's possible you're meant to imagine that the towns still exist but you can't access them (like how in early console {{RPGs}} the player is usually expected to imagine that the game world is much more populated than it appears), but assuming that all of Alefgard has been wiped out except for one town which was forced to move behind castle walls is definitely a valid interpretation.

* {{Woolseyism}}: Laurasia was called "Midenhall" in the original NES port, perhaps to better jibe with the vaguely Saxon/Nordic names used in the first game.

*** It is possible to encounter the Gold Batboon as soon as you exit the Cave of Rhone on your way to the shrine to save, meaning you have to do the hardest area in the game '''all over again'''.

** It should be mentioned however that Gold Batboons really only appear in the final section of the overworld, and right where you can save as well. Typically if you are hit by their Sacrifice spell, it'll only be when you're grinding here, and since you don't lose your experience when you die (which is what is really important at this point in the game), and thus don't really lose your progress either (you're sent right back to the shrine on the overworld here where you've saved), it's little more than an annoyance. If they appear in the middle of the final dungeon crawl, pray.

** I think it should be mentioned however that Gold Batboons really only appear in the final section of the overworld, and right where you can save as well. Typically if you are hit by their Sacrifice spell, it'll only be when you're grinding here, and since you don't lose your experience when you die (which is what is really important at this point in the game), and thus don't really lose your progress either (you're sent right back to the shrine on the overworld here where you've saved), it's little more than an annoyance. Is it cheap and frustrating still? Yes, but is it game breaking? This troper doesn't think so. Now if they appeared in the middle of a long dungeon crawl, that would be a different story.

* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation / DependingOnTheWriter: The second prince in Japan and overseas. As "Sumaltria" (Japan), he's said to be "a slacker, a drinker, and an overall really fun guy". "Cannock" (Overseas) is "studious young man immersed in his studies" and "easy-going", "doesn't like to hurry", and "[makes] side-trips".

** Just about anything in the second half of the Cave to Rhone qualifies. Dragons have a breath attack that has the potential of critically wounding or killing two thirds of your party if you don't level grind. Flames usually comes in a group of four and can cause a TotalPartyWipe if they all use a breath attack that deals about 35-40 damage. There's a reason why Cave of Rhone is ThatOneLevel and why the game's generally considered NintendoHard.

* ThatOneLevel: The road to the Rhone Plateau is full of pitfalls, tough monsters that will decimate your party if you come in at a low level and a section at the end where it will loop if you go the wrong way. This stands out among of a handful of reasons this game has a reputation of NintendoHard.

* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation / DependingOnTheWriter : The second prince in Japan and overseas. As "Sumaltria" (Japan), he's said to be "a slacker, a drinker, and an overall really fun guy". "Cannock" (Overseas) is "studious young man immersed in his studies" and "easy-going", "doesn't like to hurry", and "[makes] side-trips".
* DemonicSpiders - The final area of the game contains enemies called Gold Batboons (Bat Demons in the GBC version) who could potentially wipe out your party in one turn with their Sacrifice spell. Sacrifice, when used on you, results in a total party kill 100% of the time. The only other enemy in the whole series that can use this ability is the Rockbomb, but at least the Rockbomb waits until you've sufficiently provoked it before casting the spell. Gold Batboons can choose to do it on their very first turn if they're so inclined.

* EnsembleDarkhorse - While never addressed in canon or other games, quite a few fans are fond of the Princess of Cannock, making up little stories and fanart for her. She did get something of a role via an {{Expy}} in Kiefer's sister, Leeza, in ''VideoGame/DragonQuestVII'', but the personalities of these two are quite different.
* GoddamnedBoss - While Hargon isn't too hard, he has the penchant of casting Healall at the worst time possible, fully healing himself. This is especially annoying on the NES version, when he has about 200 HP and can fully heal himself, which essentially restarts the battle for him (and not for you).
* MemeticMutation - In a somewhat literal sense, FanArt of the Princess of Moonbrooke sometimes gives her dog-like traits or a tail and ears, due to her transformation.
** AscendedMeme - Her banter in FortuneStreet includes her barking and descriptions of her acting like a dog sometimes.
* [[ThatOneBoss That One Final Boss]] - In a series of relatively tough to just plain hard bosses, Malroth is just plain cheap. As of this moment of typing, he's the ONLY DragonQuest final boss to have Fullheal. Not that bad in the NES version, as he only has 250 HP, but in the remix? He's got SEVEN times that much. Even if it doesn't heal all 1750, 999 is a real "up yours" to the effort you just put into knocking that off him.

* ThatOneLevel - The road to the Rhone Plateau is full of pitfalls, tough monsters that will decimate your party if you come in at a low level and a section at the end where it will loop if you go the wrong way. This stands out among of a handful of reasons this game has a reputation of NintendoHard.
* {{Woolseyism}} - Laurasia was called "Midenhall" in the original NES port, perhaps to better jibe with the vaguely Saxon/Nordic names used in the first game.

* EnsembleDarkhorse - While never addressed in canon or other games, quite a few fans are fond of the Princess of Cannock, making up little stories and fanart for her. She did get something of a role via an {{Expy}} in Kiefer's sister, Leeza, in ''DragonQuestVII'', but the personalities of these two are quite different.

* ThatOneLevel - The road to the Rhone Plateau is full of pitfalls, tough monsters that will decimate your party if you come in at a low level and a section at the end where it will loop if you go the wrong way. This is stands out among of a handful of reasons this game has a reputation of NintendoHard.