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* WhatAnIdiot: Alt!Garrus and Alt!Atilius in regard with the whole mess about Perdita.
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** The quarians' attacking and killing hybrid parents to steal their children (and in many case, living foetuses that were freshly cut-out from their mothers) to perform horrific experiments on them, then to not even let those children to have peace in their death, they preserved the bodies for further testing; all because of a misguided belief that [[InsaneTrollLogic the hybrids are "gifts" from the Geths to be their new slaves]].
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** The quarians' attacking and killing hybrid parents to steal their children (and in many case, living foetuses that were freshly cut-out from their mothers) to perform horrific experiments on them, then to not even let those children to have peace in their death, they preserved the bodies for further testing; all because of a misguided belief that [[InsaneTrollLogic the hybrids are "gifts" from the Geths geth to be their new slaves]].
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** The Quarians' attacking and killing hybrid parents to steal their children (and in many case, living foetuses that were freshly cut-out from their mothers) to perform horrific experiments on them, then to not even let those children to have peace in their death, they preserved the bodies for further testing; all because of a misguided belief that [[InsaneTrollLogic the hybrids are "gifts" from the Geths to be their new slaves]].
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** The Quarians' quarians' attacking and killing hybrid parents to steal their children (and in many case, living foetuses that were freshly cut-out from their mothers) to perform horrific experiments on them, then to not even let those children to have peace in their death, they preserved the bodies for further testing; all because of a misguided belief that [[InsaneTrollLogic the hybrids are "gifts" from the Geths to be their new slaves]].
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* WoobieSpecies: The Hybrids, they are usually hated by their parents' species, both sides either torment them or use them as weapon or lab rats. Meanwhile, the Quarians actively hunts them even when they're still in the womb and perform horrible experiments on those babies to enslave them as replacements of the Geth.
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* WoobieSpecies: The Hybrids, they are usually hated by their parents' species, both sides either torment them or use them as weapon or lab rats. Meanwhile, the Quarians quarians actively hunts them even when they're still in the womb and perform horrible experiments on those babies to enslave them as replacements of the Geth.
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* CompleteMonster: General Marius, a racist, ruthless, power-hungry, abusing, child-molesting turian, who view everything and everyone, especially the hybrids and their parents, as his tools for domination and sadistic pleasure. With Mira, at least she had the excuses of having almost all her childhood being raised in a deadly environment that forced her to become what she was; but with Marius, he wasn't a product of anything other than his warped way of thinking and viewing the world.
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* CompleteMonster: General Marius, a racist, ruthless, power-hungry, abusing, child-molesting turian, who view everything JerkassWoobie: Again, Alt!Gaius. Though in his case, he pointed his rage at only one single race and everyone, especially not the hybrids whole world and their parents, as his tools for domination and sadistic pleasure. With Mira, at least she had the excuses of having almost all her childhood being raised in a deadly environment that forced her to become what she was; but with Marius, he wasn't a product of anything other than his warped way of thinking and viewing the world.did actually succeed annihilating them all.
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** JerkassWoobie[=/=]WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Again, Alt!Gaius. Though in his case, he pointed his rage at only one single race and not the whole world and did actually succeed annihilating them all.
** WoobieSpecies: The Hybrids, they are usually hated by their parents' species, both sides either torment them or use them as weapon or lab rats. Meanwhile, the Quarians actively hunts them even when they're still in the womb and perform horrible experiments on those babies to enslave them as replacements of the Geth.
** WoobieSpecies: The Hybrids, they are usually hated by their parents' species, both sides either torment them or use them as weapon or lab rats. Meanwhile, the Quarians actively hunts them even when they're still in the womb and perform horrible experiments on those babies to enslave them as replacements of the Geth.
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* {{Asspull}}: Some readers think the plot where Jane's being a Spectre is causing huge problems for her marriage with Garrus and her relationship with Gaius just came out of nowhere, without any foreshadowing and just added unnecessary drama to the story. Granted, it's actually logical for things to turn out like that once you remember what to be expected when working as Spectres but the way the events appeared was still quite jarring to see.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Alt!Garrus and Alt!Atilius in regard with the whole mess about Perdita.
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** Alt.Perdita molested and disfigured a 6-year-old Gaius during one of her intoxicated fits.
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* CompleteMonster: General Marius, a racist, ruthless, power-hungry, abusing, child-molesting turians, who view everything and everyone, especially the hybrids and their parents, as his tools for domination and sadistic pleasure. With Mira, at least she had the excuses of having almost all her childhood being raised in a deadly environment that forced her to become what she was; but with Marius, he wasn't a product of anything other than his warped way of thinking and viewing the world.
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* CompleteMonster: General Marius, a racist, ruthless, power-hungry, abusing, child-molesting turians, turian, who view everything and everyone, especially the hybrids and their parents, as his tools for domination and sadistic pleasure. With Mira, at least she had the excuses of having almost all her childhood being raised in a deadly environment that forced her to become what she was; but with Marius, he wasn't a product of anything other than his warped way of thinking and viewing the world.
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** The Quarians' attacking and killing hybrid parents, stolen their children (and in many case, living foetuses that were freshly cut-out from their mothers) to perform horrific experiments on them, then to not even let those children to have peace in their death, they preserved the bodies for further testing; all because of a misguided belief that [[InsaneTrollLogic the hybrids are "gifts" from the Geths to be their new slaves]].
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** The Quarians' attacking and killing hybrid parents, stolen parents to steal their children (and in many case, living foetuses that were freshly cut-out from their mothers) to perform horrific experiments on them, then to not even let those children to have peace in their death, they preserved the bodies for further testing; all because of a misguided belief that [[InsaneTrollLogic the hybrids are "gifts" from the Geths to be their new slaves]].
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* MoralEventHorizon: The Hierarchy (and Marius to be specific) in the alt.timeline almost crossed this when they prepare a bill that allow the killing and taking hybrid children away from their parents whenever their number was growing to numerous. For some readers, the very fact that such a bill was considered in the first place is already enough to be qualified for this trope.
** General Marius crossed it a long time ago when his abuses drove his wife to suicde, he then used his own daughter to replace her, and he also raped her cousins too.
** The Quarians' attacking and killing hybrid parents, stolen their children (and in many case, living foetuses that were freshly cut-out from their mothers) to perform horrific experiments on them, then to not even let those children to have peace in their death, they preserved the bodies for further testing; all because of a misguided belief that [[InsaneTrollLogic the hybrids are "gifts" from the Geths to be their new slaves]].
** General Marius crossed it a long time ago when his abuses drove his wife to suicde, he then used his own daughter to replace her, and he also raped her cousins too.
** The Quarians' attacking and killing hybrid parents, stolen their children (and in many case, living foetuses that were freshly cut-out from their mothers) to perform horrific experiments on them, then to not even let those children to have peace in their death, they preserved the bodies for further testing; all because of a misguided belief that [[InsaneTrollLogic the hybrids are "gifts" from the Geths to be their new slaves]].
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** WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Again, Alt!Gaius. Though in his case, he pointed his rage at only one single race and not the whole world and did actually succeed annihilating them all.
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** WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: JerkassWoobie[=/=]WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Again, Alt!Gaius. Though in his case, he pointed his rage at only one single race and not the whole world and did actually succeed annihilating them all.
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* CompleteMonster: General Marius, a racist, ruthless, power-hungry, abusing, child-molesting turians, who view everything and everyone, especially the hybrids and their parents, as his tools for domination and sadistic pleasure. With Mira, at least she had the excuses of having almost all her childhood being raised in a deadly environment that forced her to become what she was; but with Marius, he wasn't a product of anything other than his warped way of thinking and viewing the world.
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* TheWoobie: Almost all of the cast. Alt!Gaius has to be the biggest example for this.
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* TheWoobie: Almost all of the cast. Alt!Gaius has to be the biggest example for this.
** The parents of the hybrids also counted; all they wanted were to be left alone and built their own family but they were harassed by their own kind for loving someone from outside their race, their children were attacked or killed on daily basic by mobs and the government either ignored those incidents or had no qualm taking the kids away by force to turn them into slaves, and given what happened with the quarian labs, many parents were also killed for trying to defend their family.
** The parents of the hybrids also counted; all they wanted were to be left alone and built their own family but they were harassed by their own kind for loving someone from outside their race, their children were attacked or killed on daily basic by mobs and the government either ignored those incidents or had no qualm taking the kids away by force to turn them into slaves, and given what happened with the quarian labs, many parents were also killed for trying to defend their family.
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* CompleteMonster:
** General August Marius, a racist, child molesting, abusive father and uncle with no redeeming quality. Some may think his death came too fast and too light for his crimes.
** Mira, a power-hungry woman who had no qualm of sacrificing her own kinds as stepping stones. Even [[spoiler: her "love" for Emi was simply because she was obsessing with the fact that Emi beat her in a fight and not because she knew or understood Emi]].
** Dr. Swan, an amoral doctor who imprisoned an apparently amnesiac man to perform experiments on him. All just to build his career. When the patient escaped with a nurse and years later the woman came back looking for a jobs after her husband's death, he forced the woman to be his SexSlave and then made her do drugs which eventually turned her into an abusive parent and then died from overdose. He finally got a FateWorseThanDeath from her husband.
** General August Marius, a racist, child molesting, abusive father and uncle with no redeeming quality. Some may think his death came too fast and too light for his crimes.
** Mira, a power-hungry woman who had no qualm of sacrificing her own kinds as stepping stones. Even [[spoiler: her "love" for Emi was simply because she was obsessing with the fact that Emi beat her in a fight and not because she knew or understood Emi]].
** Dr. Swan, an amoral doctor who imprisoned an apparently amnesiac man to perform experiments on him. All just to build his career. When the patient escaped with a nurse and years later the woman came back looking for a jobs after her husband's death, he forced the woman to be his SexSlave and then made her do drugs which eventually turned her into an abusive parent and then died from overdose. He finally got a FateWorseThanDeath from her husband.
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* CompleteMonster:
** General August Marius, a racist, child molesting, abusive father and uncle with no redeeming quality. Some may think his death came too fast and too light for his crimes.
** Mira, a power-hungry woman who had no qualm of sacrificing her own kinds as stepping stones. Even [[spoiler: her "love" for Emi was simply because she was obsessing with the fact that Emi beat her in a fight and not because she knew or understood Emi]].
** Dr. Swan, an amoral doctor who imprisoned an apparently amnesiac man to perform experiments on him. All just to build his career. When the patient escaped with a nurse and years later the woman came back looking for a jobs after her husband's death, he forced the woman to be his SexSlave and then made her do drugs which eventually turned her into an abusive parent and then died from overdose. He finally got a FateWorseThanDeath from her husband.
* TheWoobie: Almost all of the cast. Alt!Gaius has to be the biggest example for this.
** WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Again, Alt!Gaius. Though in his case, he pointed his rage at only one single race and not the whole world and did actually succeed annihilating them all.
** WoobieSpecies: The Hybrids, they are usually hated by their parents' species, both sides either torment them or use them as weapon or lab rats. Meanwhile, the Quarians actively hunts them even when they're still in the womb and perform horrible experiments on those babies to enslave them as replacements of the Geth.
** General August Marius, a racist, child molesting, abusive father and uncle with no redeeming quality. Some may think his death came too fast and too light for his crimes.
** Mira, a power-hungry woman who had no qualm of sacrificing her own kinds as stepping stones. Even [[spoiler: her "love" for Emi was simply because she was obsessing with the fact that Emi beat her in a fight and not because she knew or understood Emi]].
** Dr. Swan, an amoral doctor who imprisoned an apparently amnesiac man to perform experiments on him. All just to build his career. When the patient escaped with a nurse and years later the woman came back looking for a jobs after her husband's death, he forced the woman to be his SexSlave and then made her do drugs which eventually turned her into an abusive parent and then died from overdose. He finally got a FateWorseThanDeath from her husband.
* TheWoobie: Almost all of the cast. Alt!Gaius has to be the biggest example for this.
** WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Again, Alt!Gaius. Though in his case, he pointed his rage at only one single race and not the whole world and did actually succeed annihilating them all.
** WoobieSpecies: The Hybrids, they are usually hated by their parents' species, both sides either torment them or use them as weapon or lab rats. Meanwhile, the Quarians actively hunts them even when they're still in the womb and perform horrible experiments on those babies to enslave them as replacements of the Geth.
