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** "Hey. I'm Ali. Hey." A strange sentence from a strange panel featuring Dazzler meeting Pixie, which spiralled into many listeners signing their letters in a similar manner.
** [[https://twitter.com/CerebroCast/status/1391066429013770245 "The stupid ''what''?"]]
** [[https://twitter.com/CerebroCast/status/1391066429013770245 "The stupid ''what''?"]]
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** "Hey."[[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bZl6bWMwGTI Hey. I'm Ali. Hey." ]]" A strange sentence from a strange panel featuring Dazzler meeting Pixie, which spiralled into many listeners signing their letters in a similar manner.
**[[https://twitter.com/CerebroCast/status/1391066429013770245 [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaCTSEYNEw4 "The stupid ''what''?"]]
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** The [[ComicBook/NewXMenAcademyX Academy X Freaks]], fans of that particular era much to his chagrin (since he finds it a waste of potential at best and boring at worst). It doubles as an AppropriatedAppellation.
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** And then, even more fittingly, [[spoiler: Firestar is spending the Fall of X era pretending to be a literal traitor to the X-Men so that she can spy on ORCHIS from within]].
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Crops up plenty when Connor and his guest discuss how they might explain or justify a character's actions in light of later developments or their own headcanons. An early example of this is [[Podcast/JayAndMilesXPlainTheXMen Jay Edidin]] suggesting that Cyclops is on the Autism spectrum; he posits the character's powers being a metaphor for disability and that him abandoning Madelyne and baby Cable was because he took her accusation ("If you walk out that door, don't bother coming back!") literally and thought he couldn't return after leaving.
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* LGBTFanbase: The podcast acknowledges the highly queer fandom of the X-Men and the many parallels between them and mutantkind, and fully plays into it since Connor is gay and many of his guests are variations of queer.
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* NeverLiveItDown: There are some characters who can never escape having certain actions mentioned. Most notably:
** Emma Frost killing Firestar's horse Butterrum.
** Magma making her debut in brownface.
** Jean Grey killing the D'Bari broccoli people.
** Rahne Sinclair having a romantic affair with Josh Foley while he was her student. Notable in that this event is treated with more seriousness than the preceding examples because it was both uncomfortable and, in Connor's opinion, made the character so toxic to write about that she didn't get a chance to be rescued from that characterization until years later.
** Kate Pryde saying the N word three times in her teens.
* TheScrappy: There are various characters and creators that Connor and his guests will criticize heavily the moment they come up.
** Noriko Ashida (Surge) will be put on blast for her unrepentant racism against Sooraya Qadir (Dust).
** Amara Aquila (Magma) isn't really hated, but Connor and others will bemoan her eating up time in ''New Mutants'' because she's just not very interesting.
** Peter David's ''ComicBook/XFactor2006'' is rarely left unscathed due to the infamous storylines around the pregnancies of both Siryn and Rahne.
** Joss Whedon's ''ComicBook/AstonishingXMen'' is similarly criticized by Connor, as he feels it aborted several interesting plots and forces characters into spaces he feels were reductive.
** It's fair to say that Connor is ''not'' a fan of Wanda Maximoff (the Scarlet Witch), mainly because of her actions triggering the massive DorkAge for the X-Men that was the Decimation.
** Emma Frost killing Firestar's horse Butterrum.
** Magma making her debut in brownface.
** Jean Grey killing the D'Bari broccoli people.
** Rahne Sinclair having a romantic affair with Josh Foley while he was her student. Notable in that this event is treated with more seriousness than the preceding examples because it was both uncomfortable and, in Connor's opinion, made the character so toxic to write about that she didn't get a chance to be rescued from that characterization until years later.
** Kate Pryde saying the N word three times in her teens.
* TheScrappy: There are various characters and creators that Connor and his guests will criticize heavily the moment they come up.
** Noriko Ashida (Surge) will be put on blast for her unrepentant racism against Sooraya Qadir (Dust).
** Amara Aquila (Magma) isn't really hated, but Connor and others will bemoan her eating up time in ''New Mutants'' because she's just not very interesting.
** Peter David's ''ComicBook/XFactor2006'' is rarely left unscathed due to the infamous storylines around the pregnancies of both Siryn and Rahne.
** Joss Whedon's ''ComicBook/AstonishingXMen'' is similarly criticized by Connor, as he feels it aborted several interesting plots and forces characters into spaces he feels were reductive.
** It's fair to say that Connor is ''not'' a fan of Wanda Maximoff (the Scarlet Witch), mainly because of her actions triggering the massive DorkAge for the X-Men that was the Decimation.
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** Emma Frost killing Firestar's horse Butterrum.
** Magma making her debut in brownface.
** Jean Grey killing the D'Bari broccoli people.
** Rahne Sinclair having a romantic affair with Josh Foley while he was her student. Notable in that this event is treated with more seriousness than the preceding examples because it was both uncomfortable and, in Connor's opinion, made the character so toxic to write about that she didn't get a chance to be rescued from that characterization until years later.
** Kate Pryde saying the N word three times in her teens.
* TheScrappy: There are various characters and creators that Connor and his guests will criticize heavily the moment they come up.
** Noriko Ashida (Surge) will be put on blast for her unrepentant racism against Sooraya Qadir (Dust).
** Amara Aquila (Magma) isn't really hated, but Connor and others will bemoan her eating up time in ''New Mutants'' because she's just not very interesting.
** Peter David's ''ComicBook/XFactor2006'' is rarely left unscathed due to the infamous storylines around the pregnancies of both Siryn and Rahne.
** Joss Whedon's ''ComicBook/AstonishingXMen'' is similarly criticized by Connor, as he feels it aborted several interesting plots and forces characters into spaces he feels were reductive.
** It's fair to say that Connor is ''not'' a fan of Wanda Maximoff (the Scarlet Witch), mainly because of her actions triggering the massive DorkAge for the X-Men that was the Decimation.
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** TheScrappy: There are various characters and creators that Connor and his guests will criticize heavily the moment they come up.
** TheScrappy: There are various characters and creators that Connor and his guests will criticize heavily the moment they come up.
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* Kate Pryde saying the N word three times in her teens.
** TheScrappy: There are various characters and creators that Connor and his guests will criticize heavily the moment they come up.
** TheScrappy: There are various characters and creators that Connor and his guests will criticize heavily the moment they come up.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Crops up plenty when Connor and his guest discuss how they might explain or justify a character's actions in light of later developments or their own headcanons. An early example of this is [[Podcast/JayAndMilesXPlainTheXMen Jay Edidin]] suggesting that Cyclops is on the Autism spectrum; he posits character's powers being a metaphor for disability and that him abandoning Madelyne and baby Cable was because he took her accusation ("If you walk out that door, don't bother coming back!") literally and thought he couldn't return after leaving.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Crops up plenty when Connor and his guest discuss how they might explain or justify a character's actions in light of later developments or their own headcanons. An early example of this is [[Podcast/JayAndMilesXPlainTheXMen Jay Edidin]] suggesting that Cyclops is on the Autism spectrum; he posits the character's powers being a metaphor for disability and that him abandoning Madelyne and baby Cable was because he took her accusation ("If you walk out that door, don't bother coming back!") literally and thought he couldn't return after leaving.
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** A lesser example was the Selene episode discussing her potential storylines on Krakoa, when a few months later ''X Corp'' was cancelled and shortly after that Selene [[spoiler: was killed in ''Immortal X-Men''.]] Lesser because even though Connor was disappointed, he's repeatedly said that [[spoiler: Selene's whole thing was coming back from the dead even before Krakoa, so he doubts she's gone forever]].
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** A lesser example was the Selene episode discussing her potential storylines on Krakoa, when a few months later ''X Corp'' was cancelled and shortly after that Selene [[spoiler: was killed in ''Immortal X-Men''.X-Men'' #2.]] Lesser because even though Connor was disappointed, he's repeatedly said that [[spoiler: Selene's whole thing was coming back from the dead even before Krakoa, so he doubts she's gone forever]]. [[spoiler:Sure enough, Selene came back by ''Immortal X-Men'' #12, and even joins the Quiet Council]].
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* CantUnHearIt: Many fans have stated that Connor's Selene voice is the only thing they can think of when reading her dialogue.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Connor and guest Spencer Ackerman, both Jewish, note that they are doing the episode on Fenris, Marvel's favorite incest Nazi fail-siblings, right before Yom Kippur because they are going to have to ''atone''. Between being episode 88[[note: neo-Nazi code for "Heil Hitler"]], Spencer redefining the fourteen words[[note: An infamous phrase in neo-Nazi circles regarding preserving a world for white children]] to mean "I am going to suck each and every toe on my twin sister's foot," and Connor responding to Andrea's fate after death[[note: skinned and turned into a sword hilt so Andreas can use their energy-channeling powers as part of his HeelFaceTurn]] with "Who's a lampshade ''now'', bitch?", it certainly lives up to all that.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Connor and guest Spencer Ackerman, both Jewish, note that they are doing the episode on Fenris, Marvel's favorite incest Nazi fail-siblings, right before Yom Kippur because they are going to have to ''atone''. Between being episode 88[[note: neo-Nazi 88[[note]]neo-Nazi code for "Heil Hitler"]], Hitler"[[/note]], Spencer redefining the fourteen words[[note: words[[note]] An infamous phrase in neo-Nazi circles regarding preserving a world for white children]] children[[/note]] to mean "I am going to suck each and every toe on my twin sister's foot," and Connor responding to Andrea's fate after death[[note: skinned death[[note]]skinned and turned into a sword hilt so Andreas can use their energy-channeling powers as part of his HeelFaceTurn]] HeelFaceTurn[[/note]] with "Who's a lampshade ''now'', bitch?", it certainly lives up to all that.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Connor and guest Spencer Ackerman, both Jewish, note that they are doing the episode on Fenris, Marvel's favorite incest Nazi fail-siblings, right before Yom Kippur because they are going to have to ''atone''. Between being episode 88[[note: neo-Nazi code for "Heil Hitler"]], Spencer redefining the fourteen words[[note: An infamous phrase in neo-Nazi circles regarding preserving a world for white children]] to mean "I am going to suck each and every toe on my twin sister's foot," and Connor responding to Andrea's fate after death[[note: skinned and turned into a sword hilt so Andreas can use their energy-channeling powers as part of his HeelFaceTurn]] with "Who's a lampshade ''now'', bitch?", it certainly lives up to all that.
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** Joss Whedon's ''ComicBook/AstonishingXMen'' is similarly criticized by Connor, as he feels it aborted several interesting plots and forces characters into spaces he feels were reductive.
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** Joss Whedon's ''ComicBook/AstonishingXMen'' is similarly criticized by Connor, as he feels it aborted several interesting plots and forces characters into spaces he feels were reductive.reductive.
** It's fair to say that Connor is ''not'' a fan of Wanda Maximoff (the Scarlet Witch), mainly because of her actions triggering the massive DorkAge for the X-Men that was the Decimation.
** It's fair to say that Connor is ''not'' a fan of Wanda Maximoff (the Scarlet Witch), mainly because of her actions triggering the massive DorkAge for the X-Men that was the Decimation.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: There are several characters that the podcast will eagerly focus on outside their episodes, but the most notable is ''SELENE''! Connor absolutely adores her and there have been several listener emails asking how an episode's character would react to her, or vice versa. Candy Southern is also very popular and has gained fans due to his episode on her.
** Minor X-Men villain Zaladane is perhaps the biggest example.
** Minor X-Men villain Zaladane is perhaps the biggest example.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: There are several characters that the podcast will eagerly focus on outside their episodes, but the most notable is ''SELENE''! Connor absolutely adores her and there have been several listener emails asking how an episode's character would react to her, or vice versa. Candy Southern is also very popular and has gained fans due to his episode on her.
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** Minor X-Men villain Zaladane is perhaps the biggest example. Despite only appearing for twelve issues, she had such an impact on Connor in his youth that he became obsessed with her and brings her up whenever he gets the chance.
** There's also ''SELENE''! Connor absolutely adores her and there have been several listener emails asking how an episode's character would react to her, or vice versa (and at least one of them was ''in character'' as her).
** Candy Southern is also very popular, and is brought up as an example of minor characters from the comic becoming standouts when they get enough attention. She also received a ColbertBump thanks to this and became an ensemble darkhorse for ''X-Men'' and ''ComicBook/TheDefenders'' as well.
** Minor X-Men villain Zaladane is perhaps the biggest example. Despite only appearing for twelve issues, she had such an impact on Connor in his youth that he became obsessed with her and brings her up whenever he gets the chance.
** There's also ''SELENE''! Connor absolutely adores her and there have been several listener emails asking how an episode's character would react to her, or vice versa (and at least one of them was ''in character'' as her).
** Candy Southern is also very popular, and is brought up as an example of minor characters from the comic becoming standouts when they get enough attention. She also received a ColbertBump thanks to this and became an ensemble darkhorse for ''X-Men'' and ''ComicBook/TheDefenders'' as well.
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**Minor X-Men villain Zaladane is perhaps the biggest example.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Crops up plenty when Connor and his guest discuss how they might explain or justify a character's actions in light of later developments or their own headcanons. An early example of this is [[Podcast/JayAndMilesXPlainTheXMen Jay Edidin]] suggesting that Cyclops is on the Autism spectrum; he posits character's powers being a metaphor for disability and that him abandoning Madelyne and baby Cable was because he took her accusation ("If you walk out that door, don't bother coming back!") literally and thought he couldn't return after leaving.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: There are several characters that the podcast will eagerly focus on outside their episodes, but the most notable is ''SELENE''! Connor absolutely adores her and there have been several listener emails asking how an episode's character would react to her, or vice versa.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: There are several characters that the podcast will eagerly focus on outside their episodes, but the most notable is ''SELENE''! Connor absolutely adores her and there have been several listener emails asking how an episode's character would react to her, or vice versa. Candy Southern is also very popular and has gained fans due to his episode on her.
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** A lesser example was the Selene episode discussing her potential storylines on Krakoa, when a few months later ''X Corp'' was cancelled and shortly after that Selene [[spoiler: was killed in ''Immortal X-Men''.]] Lesser because even though Connor was disappointed, he's repeatedly said that [[spoiler: Selene's whole thing was coming back from the dead even before Krakoa, so he doubt's she's gone forever]].
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** A lesser example was the Selene episode discussing her potential storylines on Krakoa, when a few months later ''X Corp'' was cancelled and shortly after that Selene [[spoiler: was killed in ''Immortal X-Men''.]] Lesser because even though Connor was disappointed, he's repeatedly said that [[spoiler: Selene's whole thing was coming back from the dead even before Krakoa, so he doubt's doubts she's gone forever]].
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** "Dating Polaris is gay" has become a joke within the fandom about characters who are AmbiguouslyGay dating very camp-y characters. Naturally it's specifically about Iceman pursuing Polaris romantically and pointing out the, in Connor's words, "drag fantasia" of her aesthetic that seems to foreshadow Bobby coming out year's later.
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** "Dating Polaris is gay" has become a joke within the fandom about characters who are AmbiguouslyGay dating very camp-y characters. Naturally it's specifically about Iceman pursuing Polaris romantically and pointing out the, in Connor's words, "drag fantasia" of her aesthetic that seems to foreshadow Bobby coming out year's years later.
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** Peter David's ''ComicBook/XFactor2006'' is rarely left unscathed due to the infamous stories regarding the pregnancies of both Siryn and Rahne.
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** Peter David's ''ComicBook/XFactor2006'' is rarely left unscathed due to the infamous stories regarding storylines around the pregnancies of both Siryn and Rahne.
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* FanCommunityNickname: While the listeners at large don't have a nickname in general, straight listeners are lovingly referred to as "Flatscans", a term from the comic book referring to non-mutants.
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* FanCommunityNickname: While the The listeners at large don't have as a nickname in general, straight whole are the "Zalagang", a reference to podcast mascot Zaladane. Cishet listeners are also lovingly referred to as "Flatscans", a term from the comic book referring to non-mutants.
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** A lesser example was the Selene episode discussing her potential storylines on Krakoa, when a few months later ''X Corp'' was cancelled and shortly after that Selene [[spoiler: was killed in ''Immortal X-Men''.]] Lesser because even though Connor was disappointed, he's repeatedly said that [[spoiler: Selene's whole thing was coming back from the dead even before Krakoa, so he doubt's she's gone forever]].
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* Justice for Butterrum.
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** [[https://twitter.com/CerebroCast/status/1391066429013770245 "The stupid ''what''?"]]
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** Rahne Sinclair having a romantic affair with Josh Foley while he was her student. Notable in that this event is treated with more seriousness than the preceding examples because it was both uncomfortable and, in Connor's opinion, made the character so toxic to write about that she didn't get a chance to be rescued from that characterization until years later.
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** Jean Grey killing the D'Bari broccoli people.
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* MemeticMutation: "Dating Polaris is gay" has become a joke within the fandom about characters who are AmbiguouslyGay dating very camp-y characters. Naturally it's specifically about Iceman pursuing Polaris romantically and pointing out the, in Connor's words, "drag fantasia" of her aesthetic that seems to foreshadow Bobby coming out year's later.
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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
** "Dating Polaris is gay" has become a joke within the fandom about characters who are AmbiguouslyGay dating very camp-y characters. Naturally it's specifically about Iceman pursuing Polaris romantically and pointing out the, in Connor's words, "drag fantasia" of her aesthetic that seems to foreshadow Bobby coming out year'slater.later.
** "Hey. I'm Ali. Hey." A strange sentence from a strange panel featuring Dazzler meeting Pixie, which spiralled into many listeners signing their letters in a similar manner.
* NeverLiveItDown: There are some characters who can never escape having certain actions mentioned. Most notably:
** Emma Frost killing Firestar's horse Butterrum.
** Magma making her debut in brownface.
** "Dating Polaris is gay" has become a joke within the fandom about characters who are AmbiguouslyGay dating very camp-y characters. Naturally it's specifically about Iceman pursuing Polaris romantically and pointing out the, in Connor's words, "drag fantasia" of her aesthetic that seems to foreshadow Bobby coming out year's
** "Hey. I'm Ali. Hey." A strange sentence from a strange panel featuring Dazzler meeting Pixie, which spiralled into many listeners signing their letters in a similar manner.
* NeverLiveItDown: There are some characters who can never escape having certain actions mentioned. Most notably:
** Emma Frost killing Firestar's horse Butterrum.
** Magma making her debut in brownface.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: There are several characters that the podcast will eagerly focus on outside their episodes, but the most notable is ''SELENE''! Connor absolutely adores her and there have been several listener emails asking how an episode's character would react to her, or vice versa.
* FanCommunityNickname: While the listeners at large don't have a nickname in general, straight listeners are lovingly referred to as "Flatscans", a term from the comic book referring to non-mutants.
** There are also the "Jarbs", Jean Grey fans who sometimes take umbrage with Connor not letting Jean off the hook for when she's mean. The term is a reference to Music/NickiMinaj fans, "Barbs".
* HarsherInHindsight: Connor often talks about the potential plot lines he's excited to see play out in ''ComicBook/XFactor2020'' and ''ComicBook/XCorp'' in the early episodes of the podcast - both of which were infamously cancelled early in their runs in comparison to other ''Krakoan Age'' books.
* HilariousInHindsight: Every time Connor dunks on Firestar prior to ''ComicBook/HellfireGala 2022'', calling her a traitor and reminding listeners that she's a ''ComicBook/NewWarriors'' character and not an ''X-Men'' character - including a rant in the X-23 episode where he declares "if you vote for Firestar, you're dead to me". And then she ended up joining the X-Men after all.
* LGBTFanbase: The podcast acknowledges the highly queer fandom of the X-Men and the many parallels between them and mutantkind, and fully plays into it since Connor is gay and many of his guests are variations of queer.
* MemeticMutation: "Dating Polaris is gay" has become a joke within the fandom about characters who are AmbiguouslyGay dating very camp-y characters. Naturally it's specifically about Iceman pursuing Polaris romantically and pointing out the, in Connor's words, "drag fantasia" of her aesthetic that seems to foreshadow Bobby coming out year's later.
* TheScrappy: There are various characters and creators that Connor and his guests will criticize heavily the moment they come up.
** Noriko Ashida (Surge) will be put on blast for her unrepentant racism against Sooraya Qadir (Dust).
** Amara Aquila (Magma) isn't really hated, but Connor and others will bemoan her eating up time in ''New Mutants'' because she's just not very interesting.
** Peter David's ''ComicBook/XFactor2006'' is rarely left unscathed due to the infamous stories regarding the pregnancies of both Siryn and Rahne.
** Joss Whedon's ''ComicBook/AstonishingXMen'' is similarly criticized by Connor, as he feels it aborted several interesting plots and forces characters into spaces he feels were reductive.
* FanCommunityNickname: While the listeners at large don't have a nickname in general, straight listeners are lovingly referred to as "Flatscans", a term from the comic book referring to non-mutants.
** There are also the "Jarbs", Jean Grey fans who sometimes take umbrage with Connor not letting Jean off the hook for when she's mean. The term is a reference to Music/NickiMinaj fans, "Barbs".
* HarsherInHindsight: Connor often talks about the potential plot lines he's excited to see play out in ''ComicBook/XFactor2020'' and ''ComicBook/XCorp'' in the early episodes of the podcast - both of which were infamously cancelled early in their runs in comparison to other ''Krakoan Age'' books.
* HilariousInHindsight: Every time Connor dunks on Firestar prior to ''ComicBook/HellfireGala 2022'', calling her a traitor and reminding listeners that she's a ''ComicBook/NewWarriors'' character and not an ''X-Men'' character - including a rant in the X-23 episode where he declares "if you vote for Firestar, you're dead to me". And then she ended up joining the X-Men after all.
* LGBTFanbase: The podcast acknowledges the highly queer fandom of the X-Men and the many parallels between them and mutantkind, and fully plays into it since Connor is gay and many of his guests are variations of queer.
* MemeticMutation: "Dating Polaris is gay" has become a joke within the fandom about characters who are AmbiguouslyGay dating very camp-y characters. Naturally it's specifically about Iceman pursuing Polaris romantically and pointing out the, in Connor's words, "drag fantasia" of her aesthetic that seems to foreshadow Bobby coming out year's later.
* TheScrappy: There are various characters and creators that Connor and his guests will criticize heavily the moment they come up.
** Noriko Ashida (Surge) will be put on blast for her unrepentant racism against Sooraya Qadir (Dust).
** Amara Aquila (Magma) isn't really hated, but Connor and others will bemoan her eating up time in ''New Mutants'' because she's just not very interesting.
** Peter David's ''ComicBook/XFactor2006'' is rarely left unscathed due to the infamous stories regarding the pregnancies of both Siryn and Rahne.
** Joss Whedon's ''ComicBook/AstonishingXMen'' is similarly criticized by Connor, as he feels it aborted several interesting plots and forces characters into spaces he feels were reductive.