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* BrokenBase: The guys who hate ''World At War'', ''Big Red One'' and ''3'' because they weren't done by Infinity Ward. Many fans also '''''hate''''' the Juggernaut perk and/or rifle grenades, and the MP-40 in ''World At War'' is given similar views.

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* EvenBetterSequel: ''CallOfDuty: United Offensive''. While ''CallOfDuty 2'' is an excellent game, aside from the new gameplay elements and graphic, it's a step back from ''United Offensive''.

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''CallOfDuty: United Offensive''. While ''CallOfDuty 2'' is an excellent game, aside from the new gameplay elements and graphic, it's a step back from ''United Offensive''.



* GameBreaker: The classic [=CoD=] gamebreaker is the [=PPSh=]-41; in the original, it had a huge 71-round magazine along with very friendly and predictable recoil and an excellent iron sight. Almost every later game tried to {{Nerf}} it somehow. Submachine guns in general have always been overpowered in the WorldWarII games.

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The classic [=CoD=] gamebreaker is the [=PPSh=]-41; in the original, it had a huge 71-round magazine along with very friendly and predictable recoil and an excellent iron sight. Almost every later game tried to {{Nerf}} it somehow. Submachine guns in general have always been overpowered in the WorldWarII games.



* MoralEventHorizon: In ''ModernWarfare 2'', many. [[spoiler: Makarov for mowing down an airport full of innocent civilians and blaming pinning it on the U.S.; the "good" Russian army vowing to kill 1,000 Americans for every dead Russian civilian in the airport (and they go about this gleefully by shooting down civilian EVAC choppers); and Shepard for orchestrating it all because, he claimed, there weren't enough patriots in America.]]

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In ''ModernWarfare 2'', many. [[spoiler: Makarov for mowing down an airport full of innocent civilians and blaming pinning it on the U.S.; the "good" Russian army vowing to kill 1,000 Americans for every dead Russian civilian in the airport (and they go about this gleefully by shooting down civilian EVAC choppers); and Shepard for orchestrating it all because, he claimed, there weren't enough patriots in America.]]



* SequelDisplacement: A vast majority of the fanbase have never played the original game, ''United Offensive'' or even ''CallOfDuty 2''.

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*** The first game has since been ported to both the 360 and PS3, though ''United Offensive'' remains PC-exclusive.

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*** ** The first game has since been ported to both the 360 and PS3, though ''United Offensive'' remains PC-exclusive.



* TearJerker: The ending of the American Campaign in ''World At War.'' Even more so if [[spoiler: Roebuck is killed, since he does the final narration.]]

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The ending of the American Campaign in ''World At War.'' Even more so if [[spoiler: Roebuck is killed, since he does the final narration.]]



*** Also from the same game, the first Russian mission. What seems to be infinite respawning enemies in one section makes it extremely hated.

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*** ** Also from the same game, the first Russian mission. What seems to be infinite respawning enemies in one section makes it extremely hated.



*** On the other hand, the {{Wii}}'s version has the occasional GoodBadBug that makes the level ''extremely'' easy.
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* CompleteMonster: Seriously, Dragovich and Kravechenko from ''Black Ops'' don't qualify as these? The former had [[spoiler: Dmitri Petrenko]] gassed with face-melting Nova ''just to see if it worked''. His other hobby? [[spoiler: Mind-raping prisoners to be his double agents]]. Kravchenko is arguably ''worse''. Aside from brutally and happily murdering POWs and using Vietnamese civilians as test subjects for Nova, his crowning moment of bastardry has to be when his sister - repeat, his ''own sister'' - turned down Dragovich romantically, so he mutilated and killed her to prove his loyalty.



* FridgeHorror: After playing ''Black Ops'', you can't help but despair [[spoiler: whenever you finish ''World At War'', knowing that instead of their much-deserved "heroes return", Petrenko will be horribly killed within a few months and Reznov will be thrown into a hellhole gulag for nearly two decades.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Seriously, Dragovich and Kravechenko from ''Black Ops'' don't qualify as these? The former had [[spoiler: Dmitri Petrenko]] gassed with face-melting Nova ''just to see if it worked''. His other hobby? [[spoiler: Mind-raping prisoners to be his double agents.]] Kravchenko is arguably ''worse''. Aside from brutally and happily murdering POWs and using Vietnamese civilians as test subject for Nova, his crowning moment of bastardry has to be when his sister - repeat, his ''own sister'' - turned down Dragovich romantically, he mutilated and killed has to prove his loyalty.

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* CompleteMonster: Seriously, Dragovich and Kravechenko from ''Black Ops'' don't qualify as these? The former had [[spoiler: Dmitri Petrenko]] gassed with face-melting Nova ''just to see if it worked''. His other hobby? [[spoiler: Mind-raping prisoners to be his double agents.]] agents]]. Kravchenko is arguably ''worse''. Aside from brutally and happily murdering POWs and using Vietnamese civilians as test subject subjects for Nova, his crowning moment of bastardry has to be when his sister - repeat, his ''own sister'' - turned down Dragovich romantically, so he mutilated and killed has her to prove his loyalty.
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* CompleteMonster: Seriously, Dragovich and Kravechenko from ''Black Ops'' don't qualify as these? The former had [[spoiler: Dmitri Petrenko]] gassed with face-melting Nova ''just to see if it worked''. His other hobby? [[spoiler: Mind-raping prisoners to be his double agents.]] Kravchenko is arguably ''worse''. Aside from brutally and happily murdering POWs and using Vietnamese civilians as test subject for Nova, his crowning moment of bastardry has to be when his sister - repeat, his ''own sister'' - turned down Dragovich romantically, he mutilated and killed has to prove his loyalty.


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* FridgeHorror: After playing ''Black Ops'', you can't help but despair [[spoiler: whenever you finish ''World At War'', knowing that instead of their much-deserved "heroes return", Petrenko will be horribly killed within a few months and Reznov will be thrown into a hellhole gulag for nearly two decades.]]
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* MemeticBadass: James Doyle of United Offensive and 3 was an early example.
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** [[spoiler:Isabelle]]'s death in ''Call of Duty 3'', an deed that causes the normally stoic Marchel to break up. Sgt. Keith, usually having less than flattering views on Frenchmen, is the only one who comfort him when he grieve her death.

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** [[spoiler:Isabelle]]'s death in ''Call of Duty 3'', an deed that which causes the normally stoic Marchel Marcel to break up. Sgt. Keith, who usually having has less than flattering views on Frenchmen, is the only one who comfort him when he grieve her death.[[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming comforts him.]]
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* HateDumb: Some of the biggest complaints about ''ModernWarfare 2'' were complaints that [[{{ptitlezx89c5u5txaj}} it didn't "innovate" sufficiently from its predecessor]]. Fair enough. ''Black Ops'' has revealed a slew of original game modes and weapons, only to be decried by many fans as "gimmicky". And that's not even getting into the complaints about ModernWarfare on the trope page, and the people who've jumped ship into rival FPS games...

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* HateDumb: Some of the biggest complaints about ''ModernWarfare 2'' were complaints that [[{{ptitlezx89c5u5txaj}} [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks it didn't "innovate" sufficiently from its predecessor]]. Fair enough. ''Black Ops'' has revealed a slew of original game modes and weapons, only to be decried by many fans as "gimmicky". And that's not even getting into the complaints about ModernWarfare on the trope page, and the people who've jumped ship into rival FPS games...
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* OlderThanTheyThink: Treyarch's developing games (they worked on Big Red One, UO, and 3, and another developer made Finest Hour) and the yearly release cycle has been around si nce the first one was made.
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** [[spoiler:Isabelle]]'s death in ''Call of Duty 3'', an deed that causes the normally stoic Marchel to break up. Sgt. Keith, usually having less than flaterring views on Frenchmen, is the only one who comfort him than he grieve her death.

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** [[spoiler:Isabelle]]'s death in ''Call of Duty 3'', an deed that causes the normally stoic Marchel to break up. Sgt. Keith, usually having less than flaterring flattering views on Frenchmen, is the only one who comfort him than when he grieve her death.
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** [[spoiler:Isabelle]]'s death in ''Call of Duty 3'', an deed that causes the normally stoic Marchel to break up. Sgt. Keith, usually having less than flaterring views on Frenchmen, is the only one who comfort him than he grieve her death.
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* FanDumb: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-RHPCAV4F4&feature=related# THIS IDIOT]] would make any fan hide their face in shame.
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*** The first game has since been ported to both the 360 and PS3, though still no ''United Offensive''.

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*** The first game has since been ported to both the 360 and PS3, though still no ''United Offensive''.Offensive'' remains PC-exclusive.
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*** Well now they have the chance to play the original game on PS3.

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* HolyShitQuotient: The Zombies mode in Black Ops. [[spoiler: It begins with Secretary of Defense Robert [=McNamara=], Fidel Castro, John F. Kennedy, and Richard Nixon having a conference after the Cuban Missile Crisis. Then, zombies break into the Pentagon.]]
-->'''[[spoiler: Kennedy]]''': Zombies. [[spoiler: Gentlemen, in times like these, our capacity to retaliate must be, and has to be, massive to deter all forms of aggression.]]
-->[[spoiler: (Kennedy opens a secret panel of the conference wall, revealing a stockade of weapons)]]
-->'''[[spoiler: Kennedy]]''': Gentlemen, lock and load.


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* SidetrackedByTheGoldSaucer: A lot of people play ''World at War'' JUST for NaziZombies.
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* AcceptableTargets: The ''CallofDuty'' franchise as a whole has become this ''for the entire Internet'', now that the developers of [[{{Halo}} that other franchise which used to be the cancer killing first person shooters]] have moved on.

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* AcceptableTargets: The ''CallofDuty'' franchise as a whole has become this ''for the entire Internet'', now that the developers of [[{{Halo}} that other franchise which used to be everyone claimed was the cancer killing first person shooters]] have moved on.
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* AcceptableTargets: The ''CallofDuty'' franchise as a whole has become this ''for the entire Internet'', now that the developers of [[{{Halo}} that other franchise which used to be the cancer killing first person shooters]] have moved on.
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*** Well now they have the chance to play the original game on PS3.
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** In Black Ops, just to make sure you're not really rooting for Reznov, the level where you [[spoiler: play as Reznov has him (and subsequently the player) gunning down surrendering Germans with the justification that Germans have pulled ISurrenderSuckers in the past.]]
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** [[NintendoHard Blowtorch & Corkscrew]] in ''World at War''. 75% of the enemies have [[MoreDakka Type 99 LMGs]] and they're all ''[[BulletHell pointed at you]]''.

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** [[NintendoHard Blowtorch & Corkscrew]] in ''World at War''. 75% of the enemies have [[MoreDakka Type 99 LMGs]] and they're all ''[[BulletHell pointed at you]]''. Heart of the Reich too. The grenades, the grenades!
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* ItsPopularNowItSucks: Much of it's {{Hatedom}} is because of this.

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* ItsPopularNowItSucks: Much Some Call of it's {{Hatedom}} is because of this.Duty fans were not too pleased when the ModernWarfare franchise was introduced and turned out to be a hit.
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* HateDumb: Some of the biggest complaints about ''ModernWarfare 2'' were complaints that [[{{ptitlezx89c5u5txaj}} it didn't "innovate" sufficiently from its predecessor]]. Fair enough. ''Black Ops'' has revealed a slew of original game modes and weapons, only to be decried by many fans as "gimmicky". And that's not even getting into the complaints about ModernWarfare on the trope page, and the people who've jumped ship into rival FPS games...


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* ItsPopularNowItSucks: Much of it's {{Hatedom}} is because of this.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The mere mentioning of Modern Warfare 2 on any gaming forum will bring the wrath of untold [[PCVsConsole PC fanboys.]]
* UnpleasableFanbase: Some of the biggest complaints about ''ModernWarfare 2'' were complaints that [[{{ptitlezx89c5u5txaj}} it didn't "innovate" sufficiently from its predecessor]]. Fair enough. ''Black Ops'' has revealed a slew of original game modes and weapons, only to be decried by many fans as "gimmicky". And that's not even getting into the complaints about ModernWarfare on the trope page, and the people who've jumped ship into rival FPS games...

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The mere mentioning of Modern Warfare 2 on any gaming forum will bring the wrath of untold [[PCVsConsole PC fanboys.]]
* UnpleasableFanbase: Some of the biggest complaints about ''ModernWarfare 2'' were complaints that [[{{ptitlezx89c5u5txaj}} it didn't "innovate" sufficiently from its predecessor]]. Fair enough. ''Black Ops'' has revealed a slew of original game modes and weapons, only to be decried by many fans as "gimmicky". And that's not even getting into the complaints about ModernWarfare on the trope page, and the people who've jumped ship into rival FPS games...
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* {{Hatedom}}: Mostly due to ItsPopularNowItSucks.
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** SOG is usually considered of the hardest missions in Black Ops due to RespawningEnemies.
*** Specifically, respawning enemies with LMG's that you have to stand up in front of three separate times to pass a certain evil check point.
*** Infinite enemies also appear at the very end of "Executive Order". Worst. Hallway. Ever.

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* {{Narm}}: ''World at War'' multiplayer Marine victory. "Outstanding, Marines! Out-fucking-standing! We kicked ass!"
** '''OUR DOGS HUNGER FOR THE FLESH OF OUR N-NEM-ME!'''
*** '''BANZAI... BANZAI...''' '''''BANZAIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!'''''
*** '''SOWJETISCHE TRUPPEN!!!!'''
*** '''OUR RHECON PLANE WEEL FYND ZHEM!'''
*** '''[[RunningGag FYND GRORY EEN BAT-HOLE!]]'''
*** '''[[OverlyLongGag YOU BRING HONAH TO THE EMPERAH AND OL OF JAPAHN!]]'''



** "Comrade Sniper", the desert tank missions, and "The Silo" in the second game, especially on Veteran difficulty.
** The second half of the Foy mission in ''United Offensive'' comes to mind. As if sniping tankbusters while EVERYONE IS SHOOTING AT YOU isn't enough, the final part of the mission is just as brutal.



* UnpleasableFanbase: Some of the biggest complaints about ''ModernWarfare 2'' were complaints that [[{{ptitlezx89c5u5txaj}} it didn't "innovate" sufficiently from its predecessor]]. Fair enough. ''Black Ops'' has revealed a slew of original game modes and weapons, only to be decried by many fans as "gimmicky". And that's not even getting into the complaints about ModernWarfare on the trope page, and the people who've jumped ship into rival FPS games...
* YourMileageMayVary: Some feel that ''World at War'' was a fresh take on the WorldWarII setting, others saw it as a $50 World War II mod for ''Call of Duty 4''.
** The gimping of Quick Scoping and several other common perks in Black Ops is either a case of AndTheFandomRejoiced or RuinedForever, depending on the person.
** After the ItsPopularNowItSucks of [=MW2=], there's a predictable BrokenBase whether Black Ops is better or worse than ModernWarfare 2.

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* UnpleasableFanbase: Some of the biggest complaints about ''ModernWarfare 2'' were complaints that [[{{ptitlezx89c5u5txaj}} it didn't "innovate" sufficiently from its predecessor]]. Fair enough. ''Black Ops'' has revealed a slew of original game modes and weapons, only to be decried by many fans as "gimmicky". And that's not even getting into the complaints about ModernWarfare on the trope page, and the people who've jumped ship into rival FPS games...
* YourMileageMayVary: Some feel that ''World at War'' was a fresh take on the WorldWarII setting, others saw it as a $50 World War II mod for ''Call of Duty 4''.
** The gimping of Quick Scoping and several other common perks in Black Ops is either a case of AndTheFandomRejoiced or RuinedForever, depending on the person.
** After the ItsPopularNowItSucks of [=MW2=], there's a predictable BrokenBase whether Black Ops is better or worse than ModernWarfare 2.
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** After the ItsPopularNowItSucks of MW2, there's a predictable BrokenBase whether Black Ops is better or worse than ModernWarfare 2.

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** After the ItsPopularNowItSucks of MW2, [=MW2=], there's a predictable BrokenBase whether Black Ops is better or worse than ModernWarfare 2.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Sgt Reznov. It helps that he's CrazyAwesome.
* EvenBetterSequel: ''CallOfDuty: United Offensive''. While ''CallOfDuty 2'' is an excellent game, aside from the new gameplay elements and graphic, it's a step back from ''United Offensive''.
** And eventually, ''CallOfDuty 4: ModernWarfare'' to ''CallOfDuty 2''.
** Black Ops to World at War.
* FanNickname: Quite a few people who discovered the original, United Offensive and Call of Duty 2 [[SequelDisplacement after playing the next-gen games]] are now calling them "Call of Duty Classic". The first game was released with this title as a Downloadable game after Modern Warfare 2's release.
* GameBreaker: The classic [=CoD=] gamebreaker is the [=PPSh=]-41; in the original, it had a huge 71-round magazine along with very friendly and predictable recoil and an excellent iron sight. Almost every later game tried to {{Nerf}} it somehow. Submachine guns in general have always been overpowered in the WorldWarII games.
** [=CoD=] 1 also had the scoped Mosin-Nagant; while every other scoped rifle had to reload rounds one at a time, the Nagant used a stripper clip, giving Soviet snipers a ''huge'' advantage in multiplayer.
** Apart from the ''other'' broken scoped rifle, of course. The [=FG42=] in the original game was ridiculous; a selectable semi[=/=]full-auto high-damage weapon with an extremely accurate scope, it was a true do-everything gun with no meaningful weaknesses whatsoever.
** The rifle grenades in ''World at War''. They're pretty much accurate rocket launchers. If one uses them, they will be hated.
* {{Hatedom}}: Mostly due to ItsPopularNowItSucks.
* InternetBackdraft: ''Modern Warfare 2''. PC gamers were not happy with the lack of dedicated servers, and everyone else agreed that the many GameBreaker bugs left in the final product should have been found and dealt with during playtesting. The level "No Russian" is also extremely controversial. Critics and fans alike seem to fall in two camps - 1) those who think the level was a sadistic and somewhat tasteless attempt to stir up controversy and 2) those who find it gut-wrenching and horrifying but accept that this was most likely Infinity Ward's intent in the first place. There is also a ''far'' more frightening (and unsettlingly large) portion of the fandom who [[MisaimedFandom actually think the level is cool]] and gleefully slaughter as many unarmed civilians as possible.
* MoralEventHorizon: In ''ModernWarfare 2'', many. [[spoiler: Makarov for mowing down an airport full of innocent civilians and blaming pinning it on the U.S.; the "good" Russian army vowing to kill 1,000 Americans for every dead Russian civilian in the airport (and they go about this gleefully by shooting down civilian EVAC choppers); and Shepard for orchestrating it all because, he claimed, there weren't enough patriots in America.]]
** In Black Ops, just to make sure you're not really rooting for Reznov, the level where you [[spoiler: play as Reznov has him (and subsequently the player) gunning down surrendering Germans with the justification that Germans have pulled ISurrenderSuckers in the past.]]
** Black Ops: In case you didn't catch on that Dragovich was a bad guy, [[spoiler: the part when he locks up Dimitri Petrenko, the hero from World at War, and exposes him to a horrific flesh-melting chemical weapon just as a test]] should leave no doubt at all.
* {{Narm}}: ''World at War'' multiplayer Marine victory. "Outstanding, Marines! Out-fucking-standing! We kicked ass!"
** '''OUR DOGS HUNGER FOR THE FLESH OF OUR N-NEM-ME!'''
*** '''BANZAI... BANZAI...''' '''''BANZAIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!'''''
*** '''SOWJETISCHE TRUPPEN!!!!'''
*** '''OUR RHECON PLANE WEEL FYND ZHEM!'''
*** '''[[RunningGag FYND GRORY EEN BAT-HOLE!]]'''
*** '''[[OverlyLongGag YOU BRING HONAH TO THE EMPERAH AND OL OF JAPAHN!]]'''
* SequelDisplacement: A vast majority of the fanbase have never played the original game, ''United Offensive'' or even ''CallOfDuty 2''.
** This may have something to do with the first game and its expansion being PC exclusives. Most of the current ''Call of Duty'' fanbase consists of X360 and PS3 gamers.
* SoBadItsGood: Listening to the non-American multiplayer announcers in ''World at War'' is ''hilarious''. Getting a 7-kill streak is even more rewarding when you get to listen to [[strike:GaryOldman]] Sergeant Reznov yell out '''"Unleash the dogs!"'''
* TearJerker: The ending of the American Campaign in ''World At War.'' Even more so if [[spoiler: Roebuck is killed, since he does the final narration.]]
** If you played World at War, [[spoiler: Dimitri's death in Black Ops]] can hit hard.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The mere mentioning of Modern Warfare 2 on any gaming forum will bring the wrath of untold [[PCVsConsole PC fanboys.]]

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The mere mentioning of Modern Warfare 2 on any gaming forum will bring the wrath of untold [[PCVsConsole PC fanboys.]]]]
* UnpleasableFanbase: Some of the biggest complaints about ''ModernWarfare 2'' were complaints that [[{{ptitlezx89c5u5txaj}} it didn't "innovate" sufficiently from its predecessor]]. Fair enough. ''Black Ops'' has revealed a slew of original game modes and weapons, only to be decried by many fans as "gimmicky". And that's not even getting into the complaints about ModernWarfare on the trope page, and the people who've jumped ship into rival FPS games...
* YourMileageMayVary: Some feel that ''World at War'' was a fresh take on the WorldWarII setting, others saw it as a $50 World War II mod for ''Call of Duty 4''.
** The gimping of Quick Scoping and several other common perks in Black Ops is either a case of AndTheFandomRejoiced or RuinedForever, depending on the person.
** After the ItsPopularNowItSucks of MW2, there's a predictable BrokenBase whether Black Ops is better or worse than ModernWarfare 2.
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* ContestedSequel: ''World At War'' attracts a lot of flak for various reasons (unfair respawns in single, DarkerAndEdgier, being by Treyarch, etc). ''3'' does likewise, largely for pointless motion sensor gimmicks, rather dull graphics and abandoning the "major historic battles" motif in favour of being set in a series of seemingly random towns that even the French have probably never heard of.
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* BrokenBase: The guys who hate ''World At War'', ''Big Red One'' and ''3'' because they weren't done by Infinity Ward. Many fans also '''''hate''''' the Juggernaut perk and/or rifle grenades, and the MP-40 in ''World At War'' is given similar views.
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** Milk Run in ''World At War DS''. A very long level with several UnexpectedGameplayChange moments.
*** Also from the same game, the first Russian mission. What seems to be infinite respawning enemies in one section makes it extremely hated.
** [[NintendoHard Blowtorch & Corkscrew]] in ''World at War''. 75% of the enemies have [[MoreDakka Type 99 LMGs]] and they're all ''[[BulletHell pointed at you]]''.
*** On the other hand, the {{Wii}}'s version has the occasional GoodBadBug that makes the level ''extremely'' easy.
** SOG is usually considered of the hardest missions in Black Ops due to RespawningEnemies.
*** Specifically, respawning enemies with LMG's that you have to stand up in front of three separate times to pass a certain evil check point.
*** Infinite enemies also appear at the very end of "Executive Order". Worst. Hallway. Ever.

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