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* LesYay: Faith interrupts Buffy's date with Angel to take her patrolling, promising Angel to "keep her warm".

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* LesYay: Faith interrupts Buffy's date with Angel to take her patrolling, promising Angel to "keep her warm". Also the forehead kiss was a legendary milestone in FoeYayShipping.
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* TakeThatScrappy: For those who don't like Xander. Angel punches him in the face and quips "That guy just bugs me".
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-->'''Angelus:''' "You know what I just can’t believe? All of our time together and we never tried chains."

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-->'''Angelus:''' -->'''"Angelus":''' "You know what I just can’t believe? All of our time together and we never tried chains."
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* LesYay: Faith interrupts Buffy's date with Angel to take her patrolling, promising Angel to "keep her warm".

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-->'''Angelus:''' "You know what I just can’t believe? All of our time together and we never tried chains."

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-->'''Angelus:''' "You know what I just can’t believe? All of our time together and we never tried chains.""
* HilariousInHindsight: Cordelia asks Wesley if he ever thought of doing “books on tape”. In real life, Creator/CharismaCarpenter did the voices for the ''Buffy'' audio book ''Immortal''.
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I removed the Discontinuity section. Both examples had been edited in such a way to explain how they weren't really examples (because they would only be examples if one assumed that the character had knowledge the audience possessed but the character did not). If they’re not examples, they should be removed.


* {{Discontinuity}}:
** The Mayor worries that killing Buffy too soon would leave time for her replacement to appear. A few seasons later, it is established that this wouldn't have happened [[note]] due to Buffy temporarily dying in ''Prophecy Girl'', the Slayer line passed onto Kendra then Faith [[/note]]. But ''the Mayor'' doesn't know that.
** Faith's original plan to remove Angel's soul is to sleep with him. ''[[Series/{{Angel}} Angel: The Series]]'' establishes sex in and of itself doesn't necessarily lead to Angel experiencing perfect happiness [[note]] it has to be with someone he truly loves, i.e. Buffy [[/note]], so Faith's plan is flawed from inception. But ''Faith'' doesn't know that.
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** The Mayor worries that killing Buffy too soon would leave time for her replacement to appear. A few seasons later, it is established that this wouldn't have happened. But ''the Mayor'' doesn't know that.

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** The Mayor worries that killing Buffy too soon would leave time for her replacement to appear. A few seasons later, it is established that this wouldn't have happened.happened [[note]] due to Buffy temporarily dying in ''Prophecy Girl'', the Slayer line passed onto Kendra then Faith [[/note]]. But ''the Mayor'' doesn't know that.
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** Faith's original plan to remove Angel's soul is to sleep with him. ''[[Series/{{Angel}} Angel: The Series]]'' establishes sex in and of itself doesn't necessarily lead to Angel experiencing perfect happiness [[note]] it has to be with a woman he truly loves, i.e. Buffy [[/note]], so Faith's plan is flawed from inception. But ''Faith'' doesn't know that.

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** Faith's original plan to remove Angel's soul is to sleep with him. ''[[Series/{{Angel}} Angel: The Series]]'' establishes sex in and of itself doesn't necessarily lead to Angel experiencing perfect happiness [[note]] it has to be with a woman someone he truly loves, i.e. Buffy [[/note]], so Faith's plan is flawed from inception. But ''Faith'' doesn't know that.
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** Faith's original plan to remove Angel's soul is to sleep with him. ''[[Series/{{Angel}} Angel: The Series]]'' establishes that this wouldn't necessarily lead to Angel experiencing perfect happiness, so Faith's plan is flawed from inception. But ''Faith'' doesn't know that.

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** Faith's original plan to remove Angel's soul is to sleep with him. ''[[Series/{{Angel}} Angel: The Series]]'' establishes that this wouldn't sex in and of itself doesn't necessarily lead to Angel experiencing perfect happiness, happiness [[note]] it has to be with a woman he truly loves, i.e. Buffy [[/note]], so Faith's plan is flawed from inception. But ''Faith'' doesn't know that.

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-->'''Angelus:''' "You know what I just can’t believe? All of our time together and we never tried chains."
* NightmareFuel: The idea of a VillainTeamUp between Angelus and Faith. On the one hand we have whom everyone in both series fear, someone who's completely irredeemable. On the other, Faith is at the nadir of her sanity and lives and breathes Charles Manson's ideal of being the last one standing on a mountain of ashes. If the pair did work together no one would last long.
* ThrowItIn: When the Mayor suggests miniature golf to take her mind off her troubles, Eliza Dushku (Faith) [[{{Corpsing}} unscriptedly cracks up]] at the absurdity.

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-->'''Angelus:''' "You know what I just can’t believe? All of our time together and we never tried chains."
* NightmareFuel: The idea of a VillainTeamUp between Angelus and Faith. On the one hand we have whom everyone in both series fear, someone who's completely irredeemable. On the other, Faith is at the nadir of her sanity and lives and breathes Charles Manson's ideal of being the last one standing on a mountain of ashes. If the pair did work together no one would last long.
* ThrowItIn: When the Mayor suggests miniature golf to take her mind off her troubles, Eliza Dushku (Faith) [[{{Corpsing}} unscriptedly cracks up]] at the absurdity.
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Yeah sure, those things turn out to be different later, but the characters have no reason to know better than the audience


** The Mayor worries that killing Buffy too soon would leave time for her replacement to appear. A few seasons later, it is established that this wouldn't have happened.
** Faith's original plan to remove Angel's soul is to sleep with him. ''[[Series/{{Angel}} Angel: The Series]]'' establishes that this wouldn't necessarily lead to Angel experiencing perfect happiness, so Faith's plan is flawed from inception.

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** The Mayor worries that killing Buffy too soon would leave time for her replacement to appear. A few seasons later, it is established that this wouldn't have happened.
happened. But ''the Mayor'' doesn't know that.
** Faith's original plan to remove Angel's soul is to sleep with him. ''[[Series/{{Angel}} Angel: The Series]]'' establishes that this wouldn't necessarily lead to Angel experiencing perfect happiness, so Faith's plan is flawed from inception. But ''Faith'' doesn't know that.
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Complete Monster IS a YMMV trope and will always be one.


* NightmareFuel: The idea of a VillainTeamUp between Angelus and Faith. On the one hand we have whom everyone in both series fear, someone whom CompleteMonster is not a YMMV trope, it's canon both in series and out. On the other, Faith is at the nadir of her sanity and basically lives and breathes Charles Manson's ideal of being the last one standing on a mountain of ashes. If the pair did work together no one would last long.

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* NightmareFuel: The idea of a VillainTeamUp between Angelus and Faith. On the one hand we have whom everyone in both series fear, someone whom CompleteMonster is not a YMMV trope, it's canon both in series and out. who's completely irredeemable. On the other, Faith is at the nadir of her sanity and basically lives and breathes Charles Manson's ideal of being the last one standing on a mountain of ashes. If the pair did work together no one would last long.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Angel punch Xander because he had to keep his cover, and take Xander out before Faith did something nasty? Or was it because Angel saw an opportunity to get his back [[ImaginedLoveTriangle on a rival for Buffy's attentions]] who's tried to arrange Angel's demise on several occasions?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Angel punch Xander because he had to keep maintain his cover, and take Xander out before Faith did something nasty? Or was it because Angel saw an opportunity to get his back [[ImaginedLoveTriangle petty revenge [[ImaginaryLoveTriangle on a rival for Buffy's attentions]] who's tried made no secret of his desire to arrange Angel's demise on several occasions?see Angel dead?
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Angel punch Xander because he had to keep his cover, and take Xander out before Faith did something nasty? Or was it because Angel saw an opportunity to get his back [[ImaginedLoveTriangle on a rival for Buffy's attentions]] who's tried to arrange Angel's demise on several occasions?

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* {{Discontinuity}}: The Mayor worries that killing Buffy too soon would leave time for her replacement to appear. A few seasons later, it is established that this wouldn't have happened.
** Additionally, Faith's original plan to remove Angel's soul is to sleep with him. [[Series/{{Angel}} Angel: The Series]] establishes that this wouldn't necessarily lead to Angel experiencing perfect happiness, so Faith's plan is flawed from inception.

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* {{Discontinuity}}: {{Discontinuity}}:
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The Mayor worries that killing Buffy too soon would leave time for her replacement to appear. A few seasons later, it is established that this wouldn't have happened.
** Additionally, Faith's original plan to remove Angel's soul is to sleep with him. [[Series/{{Angel}} ''[[Series/{{Angel}} Angel: The Series]] Series]]'' establishes that this wouldn't necessarily lead to Angel experiencing perfect happiness, so Faith's plan is flawed from inception.
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** Additionally, Faith's original plan to remove Angel's soul is to sleep with him. [[Series/{{Angel}} Angel: The Series]] establishes that this wouldn't necessarily lead to Angel experiencing perfect happiness, so Faith's plan is flaws from inception.

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** Additionally, Faith's original plan to remove Angel's soul is to sleep with him. [[Series/{{Angel}} Angel: The Series]] establishes that this wouldn't necessarily lead to Angel experiencing perfect happiness, so Faith's plan is flaws flawed from inception.
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** Additionally, Faith's original plan to remove Angel's soul is to sleep with him. [[Series/{{Angel}} Angel: The Series]] establishes that this wouldn't necessarily lead to Angel experiencing perfect happiness, so Faith's plan is flaws from inception.
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* NightmareFuel: The idea of a VillainTeamUp between Angelus and Faith. On the one hand we have whom everyone in both series fear, someone whom CompleteMonster is not a YMMV trope, it's canon both in series and out. On the other, Faith is at the nadir of her sanity and basically lives and breathes Charles Manson's ideal of being the last one standing on a mountain of ashes. If the pair did work together no one would last long.

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* NightmareFuel: The idea of a VillainTeamUp between Angelus and Faith. On the one hand we have whom everyone in both series fear, someone whom CompleteMonster is not a YMMV trope, it's canon both in series and out. On the other, Faith is at the nadir of her sanity and basically lives and breathes Charles Manson's ideal of being the last one standing on a mountain of ashes. If the pair did work together no one would last long.long.
* ThrowItIn: When the Mayor suggests miniature golf to take her mind off her troubles, Eliza Dushku (Faith) [[{{Corpsing}} unscriptedly cracks up]] at the absurdity.
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* {{Discontinuity}}: The Mayor worries that killing Buffy too soon would leave time for her replacement to appear. A few seasons later, it is established that this wouldn't have happened.

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-->'''Angelus:''' "You know what I just can’t believe? All of our time together and we never tried chains."

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-->'''Angelus:''' "You know what I just can’t believe? All of our time together and we never tried chains.""
* NightmareFuel: The idea of a VillainTeamUp between Angelus and Faith. On the one hand we have whom everyone in both series fear, someone whom CompleteMonster is not a YMMV trope, it's canon both in series and out. On the other, Faith is at the nadir of her sanity and basically lives and breathes Charles Manson's ideal of being the last one standing on a mountain of ashes. If the pair did work together no one would last long.
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* FanficFuel: The episode that launched a thousand Angelus/Buffy/Faith UsefulNotes/{{BDSM}} {{Lemon}} and {{Slash Fic}}s.
-->'''Angelus:''' "You know what I just can’t believe? All of our time together and we never tried chains."

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