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** [[TheChessmaster Balalaika]] is [[TheBaroness hot]]. [[DarkActionGirl Revy]] is [[{{Stripperific}} hot]]. Shenhua is [[LegFocus hot]]. [[CorruptChurch Eda]] is [[NaughtyNuns hot]]. [[NinjaMaid Roberta]] is [[BoobsOfSteel hot]]. All of the main female characters are, to some degree, evil (as is everybody else in this series). And they are hot.

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** [[TheChessmaster Balalaika]] is [[TheBaroness hot]]. [[DarkActionGirl Revy]] is [[{{Stripperific}} hot]]. Shenhua is [[LegFocus hot]]. [[CorruptChurch Eda]] is [[NaughtyNuns hot]]. [[NinjaMaid Roberta]] is [[BoobsOfSteel hot]].hot. All of the main female characters are, to some degree, evil (as is everybody else in this series). And they are hot.
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* SpiritualAdaptation: Before ''LightNovel/{{Baccano}}'', this has been considered the best manga and anime "made by" Creator/QuentinTarantino.

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* SpiritualAdaptation: Before ''LightNovel/{{Baccano}}'', ''Literature/{{Baccano}}'', this has been considered the best manga and anime "made by" Creator/QuentinTarantino.

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* FanNickname: For Roberta, we have "the Maidinator".

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For Roberta, we have "the Maidinator".Maidinator".
** Claude “Torch” Weaver is frequently nicknamed [[WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill Hank Hill]] for his heavy resemblance to Hank.
** Leigharch is typically referred to “the Irish guy”.



** Leigharch only appears briefly, but every minute he's onscreen is absolutely hilarious and quotable.

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** Leigharch only appears briefly, but every minute he's onscreen is absolutely hilarious and quotable. Fans were heartbroken when it was revealed that he had to be institutionalized and clearly wanted to see more of him.

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* EightDeadlyWords: Most of the characters are sociopathic killers and criminals at worst or selfish jerkasses as best.


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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Most of the characters are sociopathic killers and criminals at worst or selfish {{jerkass}}es as best, making it very difficult to root for anyone.
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* SignatureScene: Rock obliterating the enemy helicopter while flipping the bird and screaming "YOU GOT FUCKED!" proved that this meek {{Salaryman}} could keep up with the worst criminals of Roanapur.
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* AccidentalInnuendo: When Balalaika rounds up her men when they find out Roberta is on the loose, she says “Cock your hammers!”, which to the average viewer could mean something else.
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** Rokuro "Rock" Okajima himself has [[ProtagonistJourneyToVillain grown steadily darker as the series goes on]]. Proving his tactical acumen in the first few episodes by coming up with a genius plan to wipe out a pursuing anti-tank aircraft, Rock later shows his skilled manipulative side by becoming a flawless negotiator to the point that all the most powerful players in Roanpur [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating genuinely like and respect him]]. During Roberta's rampage, it is Rock who manipulates Roberta and her master Garcia into a deadly confrontation to end the bloodshed, nearly getting both killed, but ending in Roberta recovering her sanity and leaving in peace. Rock continues to demonstrate his ability to use and manipulate others, even if for [[WellIntentionedExtremist ostensibly desirable ends]], as possibly the single most dangerous and skilled player of the criminal game in the darkness that is Roanapur.

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** Rokuro "Rock" Okajima himself has [[ProtagonistJourneyToVillain grown steadily darker as the series goes on]]. Proving his tactical acumen in the first few episodes by coming up with a genius plan to wipe out a pursuing anti-tank aircraft, Rock later shows his skilled manipulative side by becoming a flawless negotiator to the point that all the most powerful players in Roanpur [[OneHundredPercentAdorationRating [[LovedByAll genuinely like and respect him]]. During Roberta's rampage, it is Rock who manipulates Roberta and her master Garcia into a deadly confrontation to end the bloodshed, nearly getting both killed, but ending in Roberta recovering her sanity and leaving in peace. Rock continues to demonstrate his ability to use and manipulate others, even if for [[WellIntentionedExtremist ostensibly desirable ends]], as possibly the single most dangerous and skilled player of the criminal game in the darkness that is Roanapur.
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** Just who ''is'' Eda, really? Is she a goofy so-called nun [[spoiler:who only occasionally who takes her job as a CIA agent seriously]]? Or is she really [[spoiler:a cold, domineering mastermind whose appearance to others is merely a convincing deception]]? Whatever it is, she's definitely not who she appears to be.

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** Just who ''is'' Eda, really? Is she a goofy so-called nun [[spoiler:who only occasionally who takes her job as a CIA agent seriously]]? Or is she really [[spoiler:a cold, domineering mastermind whose appearance to others is merely a convincing deception]]? Whatever it Whoever she is, she's definitely not who she appears to be.
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STOP trying to add this example back in. As I explained YEARS AGO Caxton does not qualify as an Ensemble Dark Horse thanks to his incredibly stupid decision during the "Baile De La Muerte" arc. That's why he's included in Unintentionally Unsympathetic.


** Major Caxton has more than his share of fans for being one of the few [[NiceGuy totally friendly]] and honorable [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure government agents]] in the whole series and a [[MajorlyAwesome total badass]] to boot.
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** [[TheChessmaster Balalaika]] is [[TheBaroness hot]]. [[DarkActionGirl Revy]] is [[{{Stripperific}} hot]]. Shenhua is [[ShesGotLegs hot]]. [[CorruptChurch Eda]] is [[NaughtyNuns hot]]. [[NinjaMaid Roberta]] is [[BoobsOfSteel hot]]. All of the main female characters are, to some degree, evil (as is everybody else in this series). And they are hot.

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** [[TheChessmaster Balalaika]] is [[TheBaroness hot]]. [[DarkActionGirl Revy]] is [[{{Stripperific}} hot]]. Shenhua is [[ShesGotLegs [[LegFocus hot]]. [[CorruptChurch Eda]] is [[NaughtyNuns hot]]. [[NinjaMaid Roberta]] is [[BoobsOfSteel hot]]. All of the main female characters are, to some degree, evil (as is everybody else in this series). And they are hot.
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** [[TheChessmaster Balalaika]] is [[TheBaroness hot]]. [[DarkActionGirl Revy]] is [[{{Stripperific}} hot]]. [[KnifeNut Shenhua]] is [[ShesGotLegs hot]]. [[CorruptChurch Eda]] is [[NaughtyNuns hot]]. [[NinjaMaid Roberta]] is [[BoobsOfSteel hot]]. All of the main female characters are, to some degree, evil (as is everybody else in this series). And they are hot.

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** [[TheChessmaster Balalaika]] is [[TheBaroness hot]]. [[DarkActionGirl Revy]] is [[{{Stripperific}} hot]]. [[KnifeNut Shenhua]] Shenhua is [[ShesGotLegs hot]]. [[CorruptChurch Eda]] is [[NaughtyNuns hot]]. [[NinjaMaid Roberta]] is [[BoobsOfSteel hot]]. All of the main female characters are, to some degree, evil (as is everybody else in this series). And they are hot.
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* EightDeadlyWords: Most of the characters are sociopathic killers and criminals at worst or selfish jerkasses as best.
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* EightDeadlyWords: Especially in the earlier stages, although not as much in the anime. It's still very easy to not care about what happens to anyone since they're all jerks, evil, psychotic, and/or {{Straw Nihilist}}s (or [[TheAntiNihilist Anti-Nihilists]], which is a change in the tune, but still is the same song), [[MotiveRant and love to talk about their reasons for being so at length to anybody who cares to listen]] (and to many who don't have any other option but hear it).
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* FoeYay: For rival crime lords who have attempted to murder one another at least once, Mr. Chang and Ms. Balalaika sure do behave rather flirtatiously towards each other. One scene from the manga has both of them explicitly state that the times they'd tried to kill one another are the most valued experiences that either of them posses.
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* FanNickname: For Roberta, we have "the Maidinator".
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** Eda, supposedly a flirty criminal nun from the so-called Church of Violence smuggling operation, is [[ObfuscatingStupidity actually a skilled major player]] in her own right. A UsefulNotes/{{CIA}} agent who also completely dominates the Triad boss Mr. Chang, Eda is in effect the [[TheManBehindTheMan true secret ruler]] of Roanapur. On the field, Eda also freely manipulates the hapless Janet Bhai into a safehouse that will be invaded, with enough instructions to escape so Eda can extort her for protection, and later shows that she casually plays all sides in Roanapur while setting up an end to the insane battle maid Roberta's rampage.

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** Eda, supposedly a flirty criminal nun from the so-called Church of Violence smuggling operation, is [[ObfuscatingStupidity actually a skilled major player]] in her own right. A UsefulNotes/{{CIA}} agent who also completely dominates the Triad boss Mr. Chang, Eda is in effect the [[TheManBehindTheMan [[TheWomanBehindTheMan true secret ruler]] of Roanapur. On the field, Eda also freely manipulates the hapless Janet Bhai into a safehouse that will be invaded, with enough instructions to escape so Eda can extort her for protection, and later shows that she casually plays all sides in Roanapur while setting up an end to the insane battle maid Roberta's rampage.
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** Eda, supposedly a flirty criminal nun from the so-called Church of Violence smuggling operation, is [[ObfuscatingStupidity actually a skilled major player]] in her own right. A UsefulNotes/{{CIA}} agent who also completely dominates the Triad boss Mr. Chang, Eda is in effect the [[TheWomanBehindTheMan true secret ruler]] of Roanapur. On the field, Eda also freely manipulates the hapless Janet Bhai into a safehouse that will be invaded, with enough instructions to escape so Eda can extort her for protection, and later shows that she casually plays all sides in Roanapur while setting up an end to the insane battle maid Roberta's rampage.

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** Eda, supposedly a flirty criminal nun from the so-called Church of Violence smuggling operation, is [[ObfuscatingStupidity actually a skilled major player]] in her own right. A UsefulNotes/{{CIA}} agent who also completely dominates the Triad boss Mr. Chang, Eda is in effect the [[TheWomanBehindTheMan [[TheManBehindTheMan true secret ruler]] of Roanapur. On the field, Eda also freely manipulates the hapless Janet Bhai into a safehouse that will be invaded, with enough instructions to escape so Eda can extort her for protection, and later shows that she casually plays all sides in Roanapur while setting up an end to the insane battle maid Roberta's rampage.
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** Balalaika, born Sofiya Pavlovna, was cast out of military service to the Soviets for saving a child in a refugee camp. Now the head of [[TheMafiya Hotel Moscow]] in Roanpur with her old unit, Balalaika [[BloodKnight loves war above all else]] and maintains control of her section of the city with an iron fist. When she heads to Japan on business, Balalaika casually manipulates a gang war simply to enjoy the excitement with no side ever coming close to even touching her. Earlier, when two of her beloved soldiers are killed by the assassin twins, Hansel and Gretel, Balalaika lures Hansel out to his death and delivers an utterly chilling BreakingSpeech as Hansel bleeds to death. Frequently displaying a tactical brilliance, Balalaika shows again and again why she is one of the [[TheDreaded single most powerful and dangerous]] people in the world.

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** Balalaika, born Sofiya Pavlovna, was cast out of military service to the Soviets for saving a child in a refugee camp. Now the head of [[TheMafiya Hotel Moscow]] in Roanpur with her old unit, Balalaika [[BloodKnight loves war above all else]] and maintains control of her section of the city with an iron fist. When she heads to Japan on business, Balalaika casually manipulates a gang war simply to enjoy the excitement with no side ever coming close to even touching her. Earlier, when two of her beloved soldiers are killed by the assassin twins, Hansel and Gretel, Balalaika lures Hansel out to his death and delivers an utterly chilling BreakingSpeech [[BreakThemByTalking breaking speech]] as Hansel bleeds to death. Frequently displaying a tactical brilliance, Balalaika shows again and again why she is one of the [[TheDreaded single most powerful and dangerous]] people in the world.
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What An Idiot is flamebait now.


* WhatAnIdiot:
** [[StupidEvil Hansel]] and his confrontation with Balalaika. He sees her sitting at a fountain, alone, and it doesn't even occur to him that [[spoiler:she might have a sniper team watching him from a rooftop]]. [[LampshadeHanging This is lampshaded]] when she acknowledges that there was absolutely no way that anyone who wasn't completely insane and mindlessly bloodthirsty would fall for such a painfully obvious trap.
** Chaka in the Japan arc. He [[spoiler:''knows'' that Revy's a gunslinger, from a town renowned for its toughness all over Asia... so, to attract her attention, he abuses and mistreats the man she's protecting, hoping to get her to draw her gun (in fact, Chaka only survives past his first appearance because Revy didn't have her guns with her at the time)]]. Not to mention [[spoiler:his treatment of Yukio, who has a badass protector of her own in [[{{Samurai}} Ginji Matsuzaki]].]]
** This kicks off the Greenback Jane arc. The funder of the counterfeiting operation decides to kill a "useless" member to motivate everyone else. The "useless" person he killed was [[NoPlansNoPrototypeNoBackup the only one who knew all the passwords and security protocols for the servers]]. This renders all the servers locked off and no one can access the data now.
** Also in the Greenback Jane arc, Guy Russell. For all of his bluster, he was actually pretty competent and wound up being the last member of the CarnivalOfKillers who boarded the Lagoon Company's boat to survive. He even had the foresight to stay out of sight and sneak off to the engine room to smash it up and hopefully strand them out in the water. Eda caught him in the act, but didn't seem particularly eager to kill him even as she held him at gunpoint. Then he started rambling about how he thought he had met her before in the US. Eda began repeatedly demanding that he shut up while still holding him at gunpoint. Had he just stopped talking and backed off, he probably could have gotten out of the whole ordeal alive. Instead, [[spoiler:he ignored Eda's warnings, kept rambling, and figured out that she was a CIA operative while at gunpoint, and was shot dead by Eda for his trouble.]]
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** The title song, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOmNWL5nzE4 "Red Fraction"]]. Even when most of the lyrics is [[GratuitousEnglish edgy]] [[WordSaladLyrics rambling]], it builds up to one hell of a payoff.

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** The title song, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOmNWL5nzE4 "Red Fraction"]]. Even when most of the lyrics is [[GratuitousEnglish edgy]] edgy [[WordSaladLyrics rambling]], it builds up to one hell of a payoff.



** Major Caxton has more than his share of fans for being one of the few [[NiceGuy totally friendly and honorable]] [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure government agents]] in the whole series and a [[MajorlyAwesome total badass]] to boot.

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** Major Caxton has more than his share of fans for being one of the few [[NiceGuy totally friendly friendly]] and honorable]] honorable [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure government agents]] in the whole series and a [[MajorlyAwesome total badass]] to boot.
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* CatharsisFactor: After all of his monsterous actions detailed below, seeing Chaka get curb stomped by Revy and Ginji before then being [[CruelAndUnusualDeath brutally killed]] by the latter is immensely satisfying. This also applies to watching his men get massacared by the aforementioned duo, since they gleefully assissted him with his terrible plans for Yukio.
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* BrokenBase: The final episode of the ''Roberta's Blood Trail'' OVA. There was one significant detail about it that was different from the manga: [[spoiler:In the anime, Roberta is nearly killed by the U.S. special forces [[RealityEnsues who are all armed with automatic weapons while she has only a musket]] and returns to Venezuela as a wheelchair-bound cripple. In the manga, she was not injured at all.]] This, as well as showing [[spoiler:Revy getting raped when she was still in New York]] and omitting two key scenes from this arc in the manga: [[spoiler:Major Caxton realizing and sharing his suspicions that Dutch might be a PhonyVeteran with Benny and the final chat between Rock & Chang on the dock after all was said and done,]] caused quite a bit of dissatisfaction. Other prefer the OVA for giving the Grey Fox unit a [[CurbstompCushion better showing]] against Roberta, and for its redemptive final scene where she [[spoiler: [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments meets the family of the Japanese man she killed, who forgive her for killing him]].]]

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* BrokenBase: The final episode of the ''Roberta's Blood Trail'' OVA. There was one significant detail about it that was different from the manga: [[spoiler:In the anime, Roberta is nearly killed by the U.S. special forces [[RealityEnsues who are all armed with automatic weapons while she has only a musket]] musket and returns to Venezuela as a wheelchair-bound cripple. In the manga, she was not injured at all.]] This, as well as showing [[spoiler:Revy getting raped when she was still in New York]] and omitting two key scenes from this arc in the manga: [[spoiler:Major Caxton realizing and sharing his suspicions that Dutch might be a PhonyVeteran with Benny and the final chat between Rock & Chang on the dock after all was said and done,]] caused quite a bit of dissatisfaction. Other prefer the OVA for giving the Grey Fox unit a [[CurbstompCushion better showing]] against Roberta, and for its redemptive final scene where she [[spoiler: [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments meets the family of the Japanese man she killed, who forgive her for killing him]].]]
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** Major Caxton has more than his share of fans for being one of the few ''honorable'' authority figures in the whole series and a [[MajorlyAwesome total badass]] to boot.

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** Major Caxton has more than his share of fans for being one of the few ''honorable'' authority figures [[NiceGuy totally friendly and honorable]] [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure government agents]] in the whole series and a [[MajorlyAwesome total badass]] to boot.
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* BrokenBase: The final episode of the ''Roberta's Blood Trail'' OVA. There was one significant detail about it that was different from the manga: [[spoiler:In the anime, Roberta is nearly killed by the U.S. special forces and returns to Venezuela as a wheelchair-bound cripple. In the manga, she was not injured at all.]] This, as well as showing [[spoiler:Revy getting raped when she was still in New York]] and omitting two key scenes from this arc in the manga: [[spoiler:Major Caxton realizing and sharing his suspicions that Dutch might be a PhonyVeteran with Benny and the final chat between Rock & Chang on the dock after all was said and done,]] caused quite a bit of dissatisfaction. Other prefer the OVA for giving the Grey Fox unit a [[CurbstompCushion better showing]] against Roberta, and for its redemptive final scene where she [[spoiler: [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments meets the family of the Japanese man she killed, who forgive her for killing him]].]]

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* BrokenBase: The final episode of the ''Roberta's Blood Trail'' OVA. There was one significant detail about it that was different from the manga: [[spoiler:In the anime, Roberta is nearly killed by the U.S. special forces [[RealityEnsues who are all armed with automatic weapons while she has only a musket]] and returns to Venezuela as a wheelchair-bound cripple. In the manga, she was not injured at all.]] This, as well as showing [[spoiler:Revy getting raped when she was still in New York]] and omitting two key scenes from this arc in the manga: [[spoiler:Major Caxton realizing and sharing his suspicions that Dutch might be a PhonyVeteran with Benny and the final chat between Rock & Chang on the dock after all was said and done,]] caused quite a bit of dissatisfaction. Other prefer the OVA for giving the Grey Fox unit a [[CurbstompCushion better showing]] against Roberta, and for its redemptive final scene where she [[spoiler: [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments meets the family of the Japanese man she killed, who forgive her for killing him]].]]
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** Major Caxton has more than his share of fans for being one of the few ''honorable'' authority figures in the whole series and a [[MajorlyAwesome total badass]] to boot.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Yukio Washimine. While she's undeniably a BrokenBird for all the suffering she had to endure as the [[{{Ojou}} heiress to a yakuza clan]], some consider her to be a StrawNihilist who justified her unwilling (or possibly willing) ascension to the clan's leadership through [[StrawmanFallacy a flawed interpretation]] of fatalism. She was in fact, given every opportunity to absolve herself of the responsibility, but couldn't see beyond her own choices because she kept putting HonorBeforeReason first. Some people think that her outlook on life makes her character realistically flawed but interesting, while others see it as an irritating excuse to sympathize with a {{Wangst}}y teenage girl.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Yukio Washimine. While she's undeniably a BrokenBird for all the suffering she had to endure as the [[{{Ojou}} heiress to a yakuza clan]], some consider her to be a StrawNihilist who justified her unwilling (or possibly willing) ascension to the clan's leadership through [[StrawmanFallacy [[TheWarOnStraw a flawed interpretation]] of fatalism. She was in fact, given every opportunity to absolve herself of the responsibility, but couldn't see beyond her own choices because she kept putting HonorBeforeReason first. Some people think that her outlook on life makes her character realistically flawed but interesting, while others see it as an irritating excuse to sympathize with a {{Wangst}}y teenage girl.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: While Rei Hiroe's fairly knowledgeable about the subjects he tackles, there's some where he ends up flubbing on.
** Roanapur is explicitly stated to be in Thailand, but every car in the series is LHD and traffic in the city drives on the right (like America or China). Thailand in RealLife uses RHD vehicles and traffic drives on the left (like Japan). Could possibly be justified – considering the city was settled by refugees from South Vietnam and it's likely very close to the border with Cambodia (both LHD countries), the Thai authorities might consider the port some sort of international zone where normal Thai traffic rules don't apply, on the understanding that Roanapur's LHD cars don't leave the area.
** Some of Hotel Moscow's small arms like the [=MP=]-443 Grach, which was only developed in the early 2000s. The series is set in the mid-late-90's.
** Boris's mention of Romanian troops in Afghanistan during the 1979 Soviet-Afghan War. Romania did not support the Soviet occupation nor did they provide troops, as they condemned the invasion alongside North Korea against the [=USSR=] and its Communist allies, unless the series is playing on AlternateHistory.
* DracoInLeatherPants: Although the work clearly moralizes that they are bad and doomed people, Hansel and Gretel have become so loved among fans that they more perceive them as tragic heroes than the villains of the arc.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: While Rei Hiroe's fairly knowledgeable about the subjects he tackles, there's some where he ends up flubbing on.
** Roanapur is explicitly stated to be in Thailand, but every car in the series is LHD and traffic in the city drives on the right (like America or China). Thailand in RealLife uses RHD vehicles and traffic drives on the left (like Japan). Could possibly be justified – considering the city was settled by refugees from South Vietnam and it's likely very close to the border with Cambodia (both LHD countries), the Thai authorities might consider the port some sort of international zone where normal Thai traffic rules don't apply, on the understanding that Roanapur's LHD cars don't leave the area.
** Some of Hotel Moscow's small arms like the [=MP=]-443 Grach, which was only developed in the early 2000s. The series is set in the mid-late-90's.
** Boris's mention of Romanian troops in Afghanistan during the 1979 Soviet-Afghan War. Romania did not support the Soviet occupation nor did they provide troops, as they condemned the invasion alongside North Korea against the [=USSR=] and its Communist allies, unless the series is playing on AlternateHistory.
* DracoInLeatherPants: Although the work clearly moralizes that they are bad and doomed people, Hansel and Gretel have become so loved among fans that they more perceive them as tragic heroes than the villains of the arc. Even the author gets in on it, bringing them BackFromTheDead in {{omake}}s where they're portrayed as {{comedic sociopath|y}}s.
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* EightPointEight: Especially in the earlier stages, although not as much in the anime. It's still very easy to not care about what happens to anyone since they're all jerks, evil, psychotic, and/or {{Straw Nihilist}}s (or [[TheAntiNihilist Anti-Nihilists]], which is a change in the tune, but still is the same song), [[MotiveRant and love to talk about their reasons for being so at length to anybody who cares to listen]] (and to many who don't have any other option but hear it).

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* EightPointEight: EightDeadlyWords: Especially in the earlier stages, although not as much in the anime. It's still very easy to not care about what happens to anyone since they're all jerks, evil, psychotic, and/or {{Straw Nihilist}}s (or [[TheAntiNihilist Anti-Nihilists]], which is a change in the tune, but still is the same song), [[MotiveRant and love to talk about their reasons for being so at length to anybody who cares to listen]] (and to many who don't have any other option but hear it).
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* EightPointEight: Especially in the earlier stages, although not as much in the anime. It's still very easy to not care about what happens to anyone since they're all jerks, evil, psychotic, and/or {{Straw Nihilist}}s (or [[TheAntiNihilist Anti-Nihilists]], which is a change in the tune, but still is the same song), [[MotiveRant and love to talk about their reasons for being so at length to anybody who cares to listen]] (and to many who don't have any other option but hear it).
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TRS. DIAA now requires proof of audience apathy. A handful of bad reviews are insufficient.The shows continued running despite the complaints is evidence against.


* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Especially in the earlier stages, although not as much in the anime. It's still very easy to not care about what happens to anyone since they're all jerks, evil, psychotic, and/or {{Straw Nihilist}}s (or [[TheAntiNihilist Anti-Nihilists]], which is a change in the tune, but still is the same song), [[MotiveRant and love to talk about their reasons for being so at length to anybody who cares to listen]] (and to many who don't have any other option but hear it).

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