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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: This is more of a case of a story having too many good ideas. The idea of a class war in a flying American Utopia takes a back seat to all the time shenanigans and interesting characters like Fitzroy and Fink are almost non-factors in the narrative.

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** Add the Sirens to that list as well.

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** Add the Sirens to that list as well. well.
* HilariousInHindsight: The entry for {{Adorkable}} on the main page compares Booker's relationship to Elizabeth to something out of a DatingSim. It was written before players found out [[spoiler: Comstock, Elizabeth's father, is an AlternateUniverse counterpart to Booker. It's really more like family bonding time, mostly because it ''is'' family bonding time.]]

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Doesn\'t have regenerating health. Static Health Regenerating Shields. PS: Don\'t pothole PARTS of words.


** The addition of RegeneratingHealth and removal of the HyperspaceArsenal has drawn criticism for making the game [[FollowTheLeader too similar to other FPS games]].

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** The addition of RegeneratingHealth and removal of the HyperspaceArsenal has drawn criticism for making the game [[FollowTheLeader too similar to other FPS games]].



** Thankfully, the furor died down when [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_lLSOkZRgc the actual review]] went online which, despite the high score, dished out [[SceneryPorn pra]][[ArtificialBrilliance ise]] and [[{{Padding}} criti]][[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle cism]] in equal measure.

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** Thankfully, the furor died down when [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_lLSOkZRgc the actual review]] went online which, despite the high score, dished out [[SceneryPorn pra]][[ArtificialBrilliance ise]] praise for the SceneryPorn and [[{{Padding}} criti]][[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle cism]] ArtificialBrilliance and criticism for its {{padding}} and YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle in equal measure.



*** Levine did some research for the Vox by attending Occupy Wall Street rallies. Make of that what you will.

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*** Levine did some research for the Vox by attending Occupy Wall Street rallies. Make of that what you will.will.
* UncannyValley: In and out of universe. The animation on the faces is good... but not perfect. There are some walleyed dolls in several places that have a high creepitude coefficient, as well as two people in oversized human mascot heads that even the characters in game think are creepy... and the motorized patriot is a one eye'd rotting zombie George Washington spouting platitudes as he tries to give you lead poisoning.
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** Actually, it was because IGN gave the consoles a 9.4 but gave the pc version a 9.5.
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* InternetBackdraft: There was a decent amount of backlash when 2K made an exclusive deal with IGN to have them break the media embargo and submit an early review. Cue fears that IGN were being paid off.
** Thankfully, the furor died down when [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_lLSOkZRgc the actual review]] went online which, despite the high score, dished out [[SceneryPorn pra]][[ArtificialBrilliance ise]] and [[{{Padding}} criti]][[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle cism]] in equal measure.
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* [EightPointEight]: "Only" got a 9.4/10 from IGN's exclusive early review.

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* [EightPointEight]: EightPointEight: "Only" got a 9.4/10 from IGN's exclusive early review.
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* [EightPointEight]: "Only" got a 9.4/10 from IGN's exclusive early review.
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** The more recent trailers offer a minor example, in that it tends to show Elizabeth in more "conventional" Edwardian-period attire compared to the OfCorsetsSexy look in earlier ones.

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** The more recent trailers offer a minor example, in that it tends to show Elizabeth in more "conventional" Edwardian-period attire compared to the OfCorsetsSexy look in earlier ones. That said, her corset still appears in some shots. It is likely she will change outfits across the game.
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* {{Moe}}: Elizabeth's appearance and personality more or less fits this trope.

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* {{Moe}}: She's definitely less helpless than other examples, but Elizabeth's appearance and personality more or less fits this trope.
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* {{Moe}}: Elizabeth's appearance and personality more or less fits this trope.
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** There are also the fans of the first two games that flat-out ''refuse'' to play this installment, simply because Andrew Ryan, the Big Daddies/Little Sisters, Rapture, etc. that so defined the other two games are missing in this one, due to it being its own separate story.

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** There are also the fans of the first two games that flat-out ''refuse'' to play this installment, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks simply because Andrew Ryan, the Big Daddies/Little Sisters, Rapture, etc. that so defined the other two games are missing in this one, one]], due to it being its own separate story.story. Though with the ability to jump to other dimensions, the possibility of cameos might not be totally ruled out...
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** There are also the fans of the first two games that flat-out ''refuse'' to play this installment, simply because Andrew Ryan, the Big Daddies/Little Sisters, Rapture, etc. that so defined the other two games are missing in this one, due to it being its own separate story.
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** The more recent trailers offer a minor example, in that it tends to show Elizabeth in more "conventional" Edwardian-period attire compared to the OfCorsetsSexy look in earlier ones.
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* ParanoiaFuel: The '[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FUZTNpfhc Columbia: A Modern Day Icarus?]]' trailer is not only dripping with this itself (it's done in the style of those really cheap yet ''really'' creepy 1970s/1980s educational / conspiracy theory shows), but it suggests that Columbia became this for the world in-universe -- even decades later, aside from a few hints and fragments that literally fell out of the sky (including part of a building that landed somewhere in the Alps) no one seems to know precisely what the hell went wrong, where the hell Columbia went and whether or not it's still lurking around up there somewhere...
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Apparently all of this was ditched.


* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Ken Levine has claimed he is aiming to eliminate this, after seeing how prevalent it was in the original ''[=BioShock=]'': active powers ("Vigors") have only a set number of charges (the weakest Vigors have dozens of charges while the most powerful ones only have one or two) meaning the player can't stick with the same Vigor throught the game. Meanwhile, passive abilities ("Nostrums") come in two varieties: "unstable" or "potluck" Nostrums that force you to choose on the spot between 4 random upgrades and "stable" Nostrums that do [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Exactly What They Say On The Tin]]...but are much more expensive, meaning it will be much harder for the player to purposedly create an overpowered build along the lines of the "Wrench Ninja" from the previous game.
** The buttons to pick up weapons, Vigors & Nostrums and money are all different, seemingly to make the player stop and think about what they pick up, rather than mashing A/E/X to loot everything that isn't bolted down, as in the previous VideoGame/BioShock games.
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Ken Levine has claimed he is aiming to eliminate this, after seeing how prevalent it was in the original ''Bioshock'': active powers ("Vigors") have only a set number of charges (the weakest Vigors have dozens of charges while the most powerful ones only have one or two) meaning the player can't stick with the same Vigor throught the game. Meanwhile, passive abilities ("Nostrums") come in two varieties: "unstable" or "potluck" Nostrums that force you to choose on the spot between 4 random upgrades and "stable" Nostrums that do [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Exactly What They Say On The Tin]]...but are much more expensive, meaning it will be much harder for the player to purposedly create an overpowered build along the lines of the "Wrench Ninja" from the previous game.
** The buttons to pick up weapons, Vigors & Nostrums and money are all different, seemingly to make the player stop and think about what they pick up, rather than mashing A/E/X to loot everything that isn't bolted down, as in the previous {{Bioshock}} games.

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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Ken Levine has claimed he is aiming to eliminate this, after seeing how prevalent it was in the original ''Bioshock'': ''[=BioShock=]'': active powers ("Vigors") have only a set number of charges (the weakest Vigors have dozens of charges while the most powerful ones only have one or two) meaning the player can't stick with the same Vigor throught the game. Meanwhile, passive abilities ("Nostrums") come in two varieties: "unstable" or "potluck" Nostrums that force you to choose on the spot between 4 random upgrades and "stable" Nostrums that do [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Exactly What They Say On The Tin]]...but are much more expensive, meaning it will be much harder for the player to purposedly create an overpowered build along the lines of the "Wrench Ninja" from the previous game.
** The buttons to pick up weapons, Vigors & Nostrums and money are all different, seemingly to make the player stop and think about what they pick up, rather than mashing A/E/X to loot everything that isn't bolted down, as in the previous {{Bioshock}} VideoGame/BioShock games.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The game will apparently take on themes such as American Exceptionalism, as well as the racism and xenophobia of the late-19th and early 20th century America. [[WordOfGod Ken Levine]], however, [[http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/10/01/ken-levine-bioshock-infinite-is-not-about-the-tea-party.aspx denies]] claims that the game is a thinly veiled parody of the Tea Parties.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The game will apparently take on themes such as American Exceptionalism, as well as the racism and xenophobia of the late-19th and early 20th century America. [[WordOfGod Ken Levine]], however, [[http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/10/01/ken-levine-bioshock-infinite-is-not-about-the-tea-party.aspx denies]] claims that the game is a thinly veiled parody of the Tea Parties.Parties and Occupy moviements.
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* AwesomeMusic: The [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bLHW78X1XeE Beast of America]] trailer.
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Again, OWS only came into full swing AFTER development had long started. Levine himself claimed the Vox were based on movements like the Red Army Faction


*** Levine did some research for the Vox by attending Occupy Wall Street rallies. It's likely that he took the concept and rammed it UpToEleven. Make of that what you will.

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*** Levine did some research for the Vox by attending Occupy Wall Street rallies. It's likely that he took the concept and rammed it UpToEleven. Make of that what you will.
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*** Levine did some research for the Vox by attending Occupy Wall Street rallies. Make of that what you will.

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*** Levine did some research for the Vox by attending Occupy Wall Street rallies. It's likely that he took the concept and rammed it UpToEleven. Make of that what you will.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Oddly, in the form of a difficulty level, called "[[HarderThanHard 1999 difficulty]]", meant to [[GeorgeLucasThrowback replicate]] the NintendoHard difficulty and "once you've made a choice, you can't go back on it"-nature of games such as ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' and Irrational's own ''SystemShock2.''(which was released in 1999.)
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** The addition of RegeneratingHealth and removal of the HyperspaceArsenal has drawn criticism for making the game [[FollowTheLeader too similar to other FPS games]].
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** Add the Sirens to that list as well.
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** Some previews show that Vox Populi (which have the exact opposite ideology as the city's rulers) are just as bad, so it's more of a TakeThat at political extremism in general.

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** Some previews show that Vox Populi (which have the exact opposite ideology as the city's rulers) are just as bad, so it's more of a TakeThat at political extremism in general.general.
*** Levine did some research for the Vox by attending Occupy Wall Street rallies. Make of that what you will.
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** As well as the ironically dubbed "Boys of Silence".
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* BrokenBase: Elizabeth's design was changed in a 2011 update from [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101021011535/bioshock/images/b/bd/Bioshockinfinite_elizabeth_portrait.png raven black hair, freckles with glassy, large eyes]] to [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110608010626/bioshock/images/2/26/Elizabeth.jpg brown hair, no freckles and smaller eyes.]] Fans are pretty split on if they want the old Elizabeth back or like the new one. The general consensus is that the older one looks like she can handle herself better than the newer, cute Elizabeth. There's also the fans who don't care either way.
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** Recent previews show that Vox Populi (which have the exact opposite ideology as the city's rulers) are just as bad, so it's more of a TakeThat at political extremism in general.

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** Recent Some previews show that Vox Populi (which have the exact opposite ideology as the city's rulers) are just as bad, so it's more of a TakeThat at political extremism in general.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Oddly, in the form of a difficulty level, called "[[HarderThanHard 1999 difficulty]]", meant to [[GeorgeLucasThrowback replicate]] the NintendoHard difficulty and "once you've made a choice, you can't go back on it"-nature of games such as ''DeusEx'' and Irrational's own ''SystemShock2.''(which was released in 1999.)

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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Oddly, in the form of a difficulty level, called "[[HarderThanHard 1999 difficulty]]", meant to [[GeorgeLucasThrowback replicate]] the NintendoHard difficulty and "once you've made a choice, you can't go back on it"-nature of games such as ''DeusEx'' ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' and Irrational's own ''SystemShock2.''(which was released in 1999.)
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Oddly, in the form of a difficulty level, called "[[HarderThanHard 1999 difficulty]]", meant to [[GeorgeLucasThrowback replicate]] the NintendoHard difficulty and "once you've made a choice, you can't go back on it"-nature of games such as ''DeusEx'' and Irrational's own ''SystemShock2.''(which was released in 1999.)
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The game will apparently take on themes such as American Exceptionalism, as well as the racism and xenophobia of the late-19th and early 20th century America. [[WordOfGod Ken Levine]], however, [[http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/10/01/ken-levine-bioshock-infinite-is-not-about-the-tea-party.aspx denies]] claims that the game is a thinly veiled parody of the Tea Parties.
** Recent previews show that Vox Populi (which have the exact opposite ideology as the city's rulers) are just as bad, so it's more of a TakeThat at political extremism in general.

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