History YMMV / AvengersVsXMen

** [[spoiler:Emma]] has two possible moments thus far. In the ''ComicBook/AvengersAcademy'' tie-in, [[spoiler:she scraps Juston Seyfert's [[RobotBuddy pet Sentinel]], simply for being a Sentinel]], while in issue 9 of the main series, she [[spoiler:telepathically kills a man who had killed a mutant child thirty years ago in a hit and run, and kept it a secret]].

* WhatAnIdiot: Plenty of it, but Rachel and pretty much anyone else who seriously believed that the Phoenix 5 were seriously making the world a better place by turning the world into a dictatorship.

* MemeticMutation: [[http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/55309/2631598-2562506_cykewasright.jpg Cyclops]] [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mck85mqkGJ1rv08b8o1_500.png was]] [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_men66cUjQi1rk7w2qo1_500.jpg right.]]"

** [[spoiler:The Avengers invade the sovereign nation of Utopia, take (almost) the entire mutant species prisoner and hold them in concentration camps where their powers are disabled]]

** On the Avengers side they want to take Hope somewhere where she can't do any damage in case she can't control it. The way they try to do this could have been handled better but there were very real concerns behind that decision. Wanting to the minimize the damage from a cosmic powered entity is honestly just good sense, especially considering the Phoenix unrestrained can destroy star systems. As Cap points in his WhatTheHellHero speech to Cyclops he was assuming that the Phoenix was there to restore Mutants as a species, essentially risking the entire planet to restore a minority of the people that lived there. There is also the fact that despite the X-Men having greater experience with the Phoenix the entity is incredibly temperamental on a good day. Not to mention that the Avengers were proven right when Hope couldn't even bond with the Phoenix properly.

** Either you think that Captain America was right in presume over Scott's mental condition, and his lack of open remorse is evident of his fall from grace, or you think he's a detached political sock puppet incapable of recognizing how Scott had been carrying on his shoulders a situation for years so impossible that if one, and only one of his friends dies in an attempt to stave off genocide, (of the usually hate induced variety), rather than say, a bus full of children, then it was in fact a very good day,and think Cap's reaction to his imprisonment are, at best, embarrassing. Just as embarrassing is the fact that Cyclops, in SmugSnake mode, was clearly goading Captain America into taking a swing at him.

* AssPull: The "Anti-Telpathy" nano-machines Tony Stark creates and injects into all of the Avengers ''specifically'' so Emma Frost can't end the event in issue 2.

** Did "Pax Utopia" ever stand a chance of truly being paradise or was it just a prison where the Phoenix 5 could subtly abuse every and anyone who had ever wronged them (remember, in the name of "peace" and supposedly encouraging humanity to "go and build great things" the Phoenix 5 destroyed all the worlds weapons, or as many as they could get their hands on, thus making it impossible for humanity to attack them)? After all, nice weather, plentiful food and maybe even health care aside, a prison by any other name is still a prison no matter how you dress it up.

* WhatAnIdiot: Rachel for seriously believing that what her Phoenix powered daddy Cyclops and his entourage were doing was giving the world "true Utopia" just because they happened to supply nice food and nice weather.

* MoralDissonance: In he end, the Phoenix Five are punished, with Cyclops being regarded as a war criminal. Never mind the fact that they were mind-controlled by the Phoenix and shouldn't be held responsible, but many of the people condemning them for their actions have ''also'' committed crimes while not themselves, but also Cap's behavior during the whole debacle is very similar to the way Tony Stark acted during Civil War, which Cap was violently against. Add in the fact that the whole mess and every time it escalated was directly the Avengers fault, making Cap, the Avengers, and the X-Men that sided with the Avengers come off as very hypocritical.
** Of course, that also depends on whether or not you believe that being possessed by the Phoenix automatically excuses {{Jerkass}} behavior.

* SomeAnvilsNeededToBeDropped: Cyclops and Captain America moralizing to each other is undoubtedly divisive but both deliver a message that the other needed to hear. Cap calls out Scott out on risking the entire planet with his assumptions and that whatever good he has managed to do does not outweigh all the damage he helped caused. Scott similarly points out that the X-Men have been standing on their own in the world with the Avengers never getting involved beforehand and that they can't just go swooping in and expect people to follow when they have no reason to.

-->'''Scott Summers:''' All I wanted to do was change the world. To see my children grow up to be something other than time-traveling freedom fighters. To see mutants able to use their powers for more than just fighting killer robots.

* {{Narm}}:
** In issue 11, Iceman tells Xavier that he considers Scott his brother, but he can't let him carry on down the path he's headed anymore. Fair enough, but why is it narm? Havok, ''the actual younger brother of Cyclops'', is in the background as Iceman says this.
** After an entire summer event concerning superhero on superhero violence, we finally get a scene of Captain America humbly coming to a power he cannot control, admits they have been unfairly estranged for many years, and begs it for help against the coming threat. By which he means The Hulk, rather than the godlike being whose granddaughter he kidnapped. It's hard for a reader to forget that had he done that in issue 1, the whole thing would have been avoided.
** "No more Phoenix." Aside from how stupid and awkward it sounds, it being the second play on "no more mutants" within the same series basically means it came off as trying too hard.
** The shot of Cyclops crying with tears streaming down from out of his visor [[spoiler:after he kills Xavier and screams that it's really all Captain America's fault, just before he goes Dark Phoenix. And then of course, the shot of him standing there as the Dark Phoenix. And then a moment during the final fight when he thinks back on how all he wanted to do was make the world a better place as images of the past flash through his mind, briefly begs to be killed, and then goes back to being crazy as rips through the Avengers and tears apart the Utopia that he worked so hard to build. And then when he's finally got the Phoenix excised from him, the shot of him looking sad about "the blood on his hands" is just so full of narm it almost isn't funny.]]

* MoralDissonance: In he end, the Phoenix Five are punished, with Cyclops being regarded as a war criminal. Never mind the fact that they were mind-controlled by the Phoenix and shouldn't be held responsible, but many of the people condemning them for their actions have ''also'' committed crimes while not themselves, but also Cap's behavior during the whole debacle is very similar to the way Tony Stark acted during Civil War, which Cap was violently against. Add in the fact that the whole mess and every time it escalated was directly the Avengers fault, making Cap, the Avengers, and the X-Men that sided with the Avengers come off as very hypocritical.\\\
This one really is YMMV, since "mind-controlled by the Phoenix!" has never excused anyone ever from what they've done. Jean Grey has born responsibility for the events of the Dark Phoenix saga for decades, and a part of what happens in Inferno is dedicated to her accepting that whether in the flesh or not, she can't duck out of it by saying "it was the Phoenix, not me!" And unlike the Jean of the Dark Phoenix Saga, Scott knew full well what the Phoenix was capable of doing. He'd seen it do terrible things to the women he loved time and time again, but he still turned to its power when given the chance, and did not relinquish said power when he could have. The other X-Men may not have known better, but Scott Summers of all people should have known better than to ever trust the force which had thrice deprived him of his wife.\\\
Magneto even calls Scott out on this later on in the aftermath when they've escaped their various prisons and are trying to start over. Cyclops argues with Emma that what he did to her when he stole the Phoenix power from her was not him, which by extension means that none of them should be held accountable for their actions because they were possessed. Magneto proceeds to chew Scott out over this in spectacular fashion - using his own life as a reference, Magneto reminds Scott that the Master of Magnetism himself had done many terrible things in his life and he'd always shrugged it off as not truly being but merely "madness" but ultimately Magneto himself had to learn to accept the fact that it was him and not some monster, and then chastises Scott for trying to absolve himself of his benevolent dictatorship stunt by blaming it all on the Phoenix.

* ConflictBall: This ball gets volleyed back and forth so much throughout the event that this might as well have been the Olympics. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Specific examples aside]], many of the people involved have worked with each other and are friends, and much of the event could have been averted if some of them sat down and talked like adults.

* OneSceneWonder: Rachel's delivering a CurbStopBattle against both Captain America and Thor received the greatest praise from both her fans and detractors of this event.

* UnfortunateImplications:
** Thor smashes Emma Frost in her diamond mode into pieces with his hammer, for questioning his masculinity. The whole battle is fraught with weird, semi-Freudian undertones. Heck, the above mentioned part of the battle has Thor [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything shattering Emma in the middle from the crotch up with his hammer]]!
** Black Panther annuls his marriage after a fight with his wife. The same fight where Storm declares that she no longer wants to be married to Panther and throws down her wedding ring. Also worth noting is that Panther was on the defensive the entire time during the fight.
** If the Phoenix Five takeover made the Earth a utopia, the story might seem to argue for some form of benevolent dictatorship, which is rather at odds with years of stories about the likes of SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom and Korvac. [[AvertedTrope Averted]] with regards to questions about just how the P5 successfully resolved certain [[FlameBait extremely]] contentious real-world conflicts that have been shown to exist in the MarvelUniverse, because [[spoiler:most of this happens quietly off-panel during the time skip.]]

* OutOfCharacter: Much like ''Civil War'' and other hero vs. hero events that have been Marvel staples recently, this was one of the big criticisms of the story as it required characters on both sides to behave out of character to push the damn story forward.