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* LoveToHate: The Incroyable is ''fascinatingly'' sleazy. Heinz Zednik, who has sung the role, has noted that the character is extremely interesting and one of his favorites despite being a fairly minor part.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: When, in the third act, Gérard defends Chénier to the last at the trial (unsuccessfully), and Chénier is moved to tears and admits as much in a touching FriendshipMoment, is he unaware that it was Gérard whose actions actually sent him to the trial? Or does he realize it and also see Gérard's genuine remorse? Either way, it's a ''massive'' TearJerker.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: When, in the third act, Gérard defends Chénier to the last at the trial (unsuccessfully), and Chénier is moved to tears and admits as much in a touching FriendshipMoment, is he unaware that it was Gérard whose actions actually sent him to the trial? Or does he realize it and also see Gérard's genuine remorse? Either way, it's a ''massive'' TearJerker.



* ValuesResonance: Stalking is ''not'' romantic or even impressive. This opera was composed long before it became a legal offence, but though Gérard is a tragic character and his feelings for Maddalena run deeper than EntitledToHaveYou, his stalking of her is clearly depicted as major creepiness.
* WhatAnIdiot: Bersi's former employer and now friend Maddalena is a noblewoman and therefore automatically in danger from the Reign of Terror. Bersi arranges a meeting between her and Andrea Chénier who is suspected of betraying the Revolution. And then she meets the Incroyable, suspects there's something fishy about him, and ''actually hints that "Robespierre has spies"''.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Bersi to lure the Incroyable away from the place where she's supposed to meet Chénier and his friend. Even if he has already noticed her with Maddalena, she can at least make sure they aren't seen together with Chénier. This way, as there'd be no links to connect Chénier and Maddalena, Gérard would have no means of blackmailing the girl (since [[DespairEventHorizon all the worst in her life has already happened]]), and he might actually try to win her in a more civil way. What's more, in all probability he would not try to arrest the poet whom he genuinely likes and respects. If you stick to the real-life timeline, there are mere days left until the Reign of Terror ends and Chénier has nothing more to fear (from Robespierre, at least). The chances of everyone's survival would be considerably higher.\\
'''Instead''': Bersi assures the Incroyable she is a child of the Revolution and has nothing to hide and goes to talk to Chénier, and the Incroyable hides to watch what happens next. As a result, he alerts Gérard, the latter sees Maddalena with the poet and goes mad, which ultimately leads to the couple being guillotined and Gérard completely breaking down.

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* ValuesResonance: Stalking is ''not'' romantic or even impressive. This opera was composed long before it became a legal offence, but though Gérard is a tragic character and his feelings for Maddalena run deeper than EntitledToHaveYou, his stalking of her is clearly depicted as major creepiness. \n* WhatAnIdiot: Bersi's former employer and now friend Maddalena is a noblewoman and therefore automatically in danger from the Reign of Terror. Bersi arranges a meeting between her and Andrea Chénier who is suspected of betraying the Revolution. And then she meets the Incroyable, suspects there's something fishy about him, and ''actually hints that "Robespierre has spies"''.\\\n'''You'd Expect''': Bersi to lure the Incroyable away from the place where she's supposed to meet Chénier and his friend. Even if he has already noticed her with Maddalena, she can at least make sure they aren't seen together with Chénier. This way, as there'd be no links to connect Chénier and Maddalena, Gérard would have no means of blackmailing the girl (since [[DespairEventHorizon all the worst in her life has already happened]]), and he might actually try to win her in a more civil way. What's more, in all probability he would not try to arrest the poet whom he genuinely likes and respects. If you stick to the real-life timeline, there are mere days left until the Reign of Terror ends and Chénier has nothing more to fear (from Robespierre, at least). The chances of everyone's survival would be considerably higher.\\\n'''Instead''': Bersi assures the Incroyable she is a child of the Revolution and has nothing to hide and goes to talk to Chénier, and the Incroyable hides to watch what happens next. As a result, he alerts Gérard, the latter sees Maddalena with the poet and goes mad, which ultimately leads to the couple being guillotined and Gérard completely breaking down.
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* ValuesResonance: Stalking is ''not'' romantic or even impressive. This opera was composed long before it became a legal offence, but though Gérard is a tragic character and his feelings for Maddalena run deeper than EntitledToHaveYou, his stalking of her is clearly depicted as major creepiness.
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* FanPreferredCouple: A number of fans ship Maddalena with Gérard, stating that Chénier is more InLoveWithLove than with the girl herself. Admittedly, Chénier's love confessions are rather generic and his romance with Maddalena seems rushed, while Gérard has known Maddalena all his life and the way he fondly describes her in the second act can be viewed as a SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoment; still, the matter is [[{{Understatement}} slightly complicated]] by the fact that he's a violent and unstable StalkerWithACrush.

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* FanPreferredCouple: A number of fans ship Maddalena with Gérard, stating that Chénier is more InLoveWithLove than with the girl herself. Admittedly, Chénier's love confessions are rather generic and his romance with Maddalena seems rushed, while Gérard has known Maddalena all his life and the way he fondly describes her in the second act can be viewed as a SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoment; still, the matter is [[{{Understatement}} slightly complicated]] complicated by the fact that he's a violent and unstable StalkerWithACrush.
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** Maddalena’s aria ''La mamma morta'', where she reveals what she has been through for the last five years – her mother killed right next to her room, her faithful servant forced to turn to prostitution, and her entire life crushed, with the love for Chénier we her only joy. She concludes by saying she is as good as dead.

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** Maddalena’s aria ''La mamma morta'', where she reveals what she has been through for the last five years – her mother killed right next to her room, her faithful servant forced to turn to prostitution, and her entire life crushed, with the love for Chénier we as her only joy. She concludes by saying she is as good as dead.

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* AmericansHateTingle: While not among the most performed operas, it has fared reasonably well – except in the former socialist countries, for the obvious reasons that the French Revolution was glorified by the socialistic regimes. Even now it’s hardly known there, especially compared to other verismo operas like ''Theatre/{{Tosca}}'' or ''Theatre/{{Pagliacci}}'' that are and always have been wildly successful in the Eastern Bloc, regardless of the political situation.



* TearJerker: Well, it is a ''verismo'' opera focused on the Reign of Terror.

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* TearJerker: Well, it is a ''verismo'' verismo opera focused on the Reign of Terror.
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* TearJerker: Well, it is a ''verismo'' opera focused on the Reign of Terror.
** Maddalena’s aria ''La mamma morta'', where she reveals what she has been through for the last five years – her mother killed right next to her room, her faithful servant forced to turn to prostitution, and her entire life crushed, with the love for Chénier we her only joy. She concludes by saying she is as good as dead.
** Chénier getting condemned by the Tribunal and an AngryMob, despite Gérard's defense of him (see above). Maddalena is forced to see all this. When Chénier spots her (Gérard points her out in the crowd), he says that at least he has seen her and shall die happy. And then she joins him on the guillotine.
** For all of his flaws, Gérard's storyline as well. He will have to live with the knowledge that his lust and jealousy caused the deaths of his good friend and the girl he had loved all his life. Moreover, for the five years that pass between acts one and two, he desperately searches for Maddalena, not even knowing that she is alive. And then he finds her, only for his own actions to lead to her death.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: When, in the third act, Gérard defends Chénier to the last at the trial (unsuccessfully), and Chénier is moved to tears and admits as much in a touching FriendshipMoment, is he unaware that it was Gérard whose actions actually sent him to the trial? Or does he realize it and also see Gérard's genuine remorse? Either way, it's a ''massive'' TearJerker.
-->'''Chénier''': Oh, you noble, great man! See... I'm crying...
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* FanPreferredCouple: A number of fans ship Maddalena with Gérard, stating that Chénier is more InLoveWithLove than with the girl herself. Admittedly, Chénier's love confessions are rather generic and his romance with Maddalena seems rushed, while Gérard has known Maddalena all his life and the way he fondly describes her in the second act can be viewed as a SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoment; still, the matter is [[{{Understatement}} slightly complicated]] by the fact that he's a clearly unstable StalkerWithACrush.

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* FanPreferredCouple: A number of fans ship Maddalena with Gérard, stating that Chénier is more InLoveWithLove than with the girl herself. Admittedly, Chénier's love confessions are rather generic and his romance with Maddalena seems rushed, while Gérard has known Maddalena all his life and the way he fondly describes her in the second act can be viewed as a SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoment; still, the matter is [[{{Understatement}} slightly complicated]] by the fact that he's a clearly violent and unstable StalkerWithACrush.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Being a complex and tragic character, Gérard is a favorite with the audiences. And not just the audiences: even tenors have stated they would have liked to sing him instead of the {{Cloudcuckoolander}} Chénier.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Being a complex and tragic character, Gérard is a favorite with the audiences. And not just the audiences: even tenors have stated they would have liked to sing him instead of the {{Cloudcuckoolander}} Chénier.
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* FanPreferredCouple: A number of fans ship Maddalena with Gérard, stating that Chénier is more InLoveWithLove than with the girl herself. Admittedly, Chénier's love confessions are rather generic and his romance with Maddalena seems rushed, while Gérard has known Maddalena all his life and the way he fondly describes her in the second act can be viewed as a HeartwarmingMoment; still, the matter is [[{{Understatement}} slightly complicated]] by the fact that he's a clearly unstable StalkerWithACrush.

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* FanPreferredCouple: A number of fans ship Maddalena with Gérard, stating that Chénier is more InLoveWithLove than with the girl herself. Admittedly, Chénier's love confessions are rather generic and his romance with Maddalena seems rushed, while Gérard has known Maddalena all his life and the way he fondly describes her in the second act can be viewed as a HeartwarmingMoment; SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoment; still, the matter is [[{{Understatement}} slightly complicated]] by the fact that he's a clearly unstable StalkerWithACrush.
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* FanPreferredCouple: A number of fans ship Maddalena with Gérard, stating that Chénier is more InLoveWithLove than with the girl herself. Admittedly, Chénier's love confessions are rather generic and his romance with Maddalena seems rushed, while Gérard has known Maddalena all his life and the way he fondly describes her in the second act can be viewed as a HeartwarmingMoment; still, the matter is [[{{Understatement}} slightly complicated]] by the fact that he's a clearly unstable StalkerWithACrush.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Even by opera standards, Chénier and Maddalena's relationship develops with hardly any buildup. In act one, they flirt lightly, and Chénier is mostly concerned about the unfairness of the world, in act two, they meet again after five years and suddenly realize they are in love forever and ever. Probably justified, since much of their love springs from the general loneliness and fear (which Maddalena admits).
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Being a complex and tragic character, Gérard is a favorite with the audiences. Even tenors have stated they would have liked to sing him instead of the {{Cloudcuckoolander}} Chénier.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Being a complex and tragic character, Gérard is a favorite with the audiences. Even And not just the audiences: even tenors have stated they would have liked to sing him instead of the {{Cloudcuckoolander}} Chénier.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Being a complex and tragic character, Gérard is a favorite with the audiences. Even tenors have stated they would have liked to sing him instead of the {{Cloudcuckoolander}} Chénier.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Bersi's former employer and now friend Maddalena is a noblewoman and therefore automatically in danger from the Reign of Terror. She arranges a meeting between her and Andrea Chénier who is suspected of betraying the Revolution. And then Bersi meets the Incroyable, suspects there's something fishy about him, and ''actually hints that "Robespierre has spies"''.\\

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* WhatAnIdiot: Bersi's former employer and now friend Maddalena is a noblewoman and therefore automatically in danger from the Reign of Terror. She Bersi arranges a meeting between her and Andrea Chénier who is suspected of betraying the Revolution. And then Bersi she meets the Incroyable, suspects there's something fishy about him, and ''actually hints that "Robespierre has spies"''.\\
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'''You'd Expect''': Bersi to lure the Incroyable away from the place where she's supposed to meet Chénier and his friend. Even if he has already noticed her with Maddalena, she can at least make sure they aren't seen together with Chénier. This way, as there'd be no links to connect Chénier and Maddalena, Gérard would have no means of blackmailing the girl (since [[DespairEventHorizon all the worst in her life has already happened]]), and he might actually try to win her in a more civil way. What's more, in all probability he would not try to arrest the poet whom he genuinely likes and respects. If you stick to the real-life timeline, there are mere days left until the Reign of Terror ends and Chénier has nothing more to fear. The chances of everyone's survival would be considerably higher.\\

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'''You'd Expect''': Bersi to lure the Incroyable away from the place where she's supposed to meet Chénier and his friend. Even if he has already noticed her with Maddalena, she can at least make sure they aren't seen together with Chénier. This way, as there'd be no links to connect Chénier and Maddalena, Gérard would have no means of blackmailing the girl (since [[DespairEventHorizon all the worst in her life has already happened]]), and he might actually try to win her in a more civil way. What's more, in all probability he would not try to arrest the poet whom he genuinely likes and respects. If you stick to the real-life timeline, there are mere days left until the Reign of Terror ends and Chénier has nothing more to fear.fear (from Robespierre, at least). The chances of everyone's survival would be considerably higher.\\
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'''You'd Expect''': Bersi to lure the Incroyable away from the place where she's supposed to meet Chénier and his friend. Even if he has already noticed her with Maddalena, she can at least make sure they aren't seen together with Chénier. This way, as there's be no links to connect Chénier and Maddalena, Gérard would have no means of blackmailing the girl (since [[DespairEventHorizon all the worst in her life has already happened]]), and he might actually try to win her in a more civil way. What's more, in all probability he would not try to arrest the poet whom he genuinely likes and respects. If you stick to the real-life timeline, there are mere days left until the Reign of Terror ends and Chénier has nothing more to fear. The chances of everyone's survival would be considerably higher.\\

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'''You'd Expect''': Bersi to lure the Incroyable away from the place where she's supposed to meet Chénier and his friend. Even if he has already noticed her with Maddalena, she can at least make sure they aren't seen together with Chénier. This way, as there's there'd be no links to connect Chénier and Maddalena, Gérard would have no means of blackmailing the girl (since [[DespairEventHorizon all the worst in her life has already happened]]), and he might actually try to win her in a more civil way. What's more, in all probability he would not try to arrest the poet whom he genuinely likes and respects. If you stick to the real-life timeline, there are mere days left until the Reign of Terror ends and Chénier has nothing more to fear. The chances of everyone's survival would be considerably higher.\\

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'''Even Worse''': While Maddalena is just another countess and Bersi has no reason to think anyone in the government would be after her personally, Chénier is explicitly on the Wanted list for working with Dumouriez, an enemy of the regime.\\
'''Instead''': Bersi talks to the Incroyable and Chénier at the same time, and then the Incroyable hides to watch what happens next. As a result, he alerts Gérard, the latter sees Maddalena with the poet and goes mad, which ultimately leads to the couple being guillotined and Gérard completely breaking down.

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'''Even Worse''': While Maddalena is just another countess and Bersi has no reason to think anyone in the government would be after her personally, Chénier is explicitly on the Wanted list for working with Dumouriez, an enemy of the regime.\\
'''Instead''': Bersi talks to assures the Incroyable she is a child of the Revolution and Chénier at the same time, has nothing to hide and then goes to talk to Chénier, and the Incroyable hides to watch what happens next. As a result, he alerts Gérard, the latter sees Maddalena with the poet and goes mad, which ultimately leads to the couple being guillotined and Gérard completely breaking down.
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'''Even Worse''': While Maddalena is just another countess and Bersi has no reason to think anyone in the government would be after her personally, Chénier is explicitly on the Wanted list for working with Dumouriez, an enemy of the regime.\\
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* WhatAnIdiot: Bersi's former employer and now friend Maddalena is a noblewoman and therefore automatically in danger from the Reign of Terror. She arranges a meeting between her and Andrea Chénier who is suspected of betraying the Revolution. And then Bersi meets the Incroyable, suspects there's something fishy about him, and ''actually hints that "Robespierre has spies"''.
-->'''You'd Expect''': Bersi to lure the Incroyable away from the place where she's supposed to meet Chénier and his friend. Even if he has already noticed her with Maddalena, she can at least make sure they aren't seen together with Chénier. This way, as there's be no links to connect Chénier and Maddalena, Gérard would have no means of blackmailing the girl (since [[DespairEventHorizon all the worst in her life has already happened]]), and he might actually try to win her in a more civil way. What's more, in all probability he would not try to arrest the poet whom he genuinely likes and respects. If you stick to the real-life timeline, there are mere days left until the Reign of Terror ends and Chénier has nothing more to fear. The chances of everyone's survival would be considerably higher.
-->'''Instead''': Bersi talks to the Incroyable and Chénier at the same time, and then the Incroyable hides to watch what happens next. As a result, he alerts Gérard, the latter sees Maddalena with the poet and goes mad, which ultimately leads to the couple being guillotined and Gérard completely breaking down.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Bersi's former employer and now friend Maddalena is a noblewoman and therefore automatically in danger from the Reign of Terror. She arranges a meeting between her and Andrea Chénier who is suspected of betraying the Revolution. And then Bersi meets the Incroyable, suspects there's something fishy about him, and ''actually hints that "Robespierre has spies"''.
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spies"''.\\
'''You'd
Expect''': Bersi to lure the Incroyable away from the place where she's supposed to meet Chénier and his friend. Even if he has already noticed her with Maddalena, she can at least make sure they aren't seen together with Chénier. This way, as there's be no links to connect Chénier and Maddalena, Gérard would have no means of blackmailing the girl (since [[DespairEventHorizon all the worst in her life has already happened]]), and he might actually try to win her in a more civil way. What's more, in all probability he would not try to arrest the poet whom he genuinely likes and respects. If you stick to the real-life timeline, there are mere days left until the Reign of Terror ends and Chénier has nothing more to fear. The chances of everyone's survival would be considerably higher.
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higher.\\
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Bersi talks to the Incroyable and Chénier at the same time, and then the Incroyable hides to watch what happens next. As a result, he alerts Gérard, the latter sees Maddalena with the poet and goes mad, which ultimately leads to the couple being guillotined and Gérard completely breaking down.
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'''You'd Expect''': Bersi to lure the Incroyable away from the place where she's supposed to meet Chénier and his friend. Even if he has already noticed her with Maddalena, she can at least make sure they aren't seen together with Chénier. This way, as there's be no links to connect Chénier and Maddalena, Gérard would have no means of blackmailing the girl (since [[DespairEventHorizon all the worst in her life has already happened]]), and he might actually try to win her in a more civil way. What's more, in all probability he would not try to arrest the poet whom he genuinely likes and respects. If you stick to the real-life timeline, there are mere days left until the Reign of Terror ends and Chénier has nothing more to fear. The chances of everyone's survival would be considerably higher.
'''Instead''': Bersi talks to the Incroyable and Chénier at the same time, and then the Incroyable hides to watch what happens next. As a result, he alerts Gérard, the latter sees Maddalena with the poet and goes mad, which ultimately leads to the couple being guillotined and Gérard completely breaking down.

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'''You'd -->'''You'd Expect''': Bersi to lure the Incroyable away from the place where she's supposed to meet Chénier and his friend. Even if he has already noticed her with Maddalena, she can at least make sure they aren't seen together with Chénier. This way, as there's be no links to connect Chénier and Maddalena, Gérard would have no means of blackmailing the girl (since [[DespairEventHorizon all the worst in her life has already happened]]), and he might actually try to win her in a more civil way. What's more, in all probability he would not try to arrest the poet whom he genuinely likes and respects. If you stick to the real-life timeline, there are mere days left until the Reign of Terror ends and Chénier has nothing more to fear. The chances of everyone's survival would be considerably higher.
'''Instead''': -->'''Instead''': Bersi talks to the Incroyable and Chénier at the same time, and then the Incroyable hides to watch what happens next. As a result, he alerts Gérard, the latter sees Maddalena with the poet and goes mad, which ultimately leads to the couple being guillotined and Gérard completely breaking down.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Bersi's former employer and now friend Maddalena is a noblewoman and therefore automatically in danger from the Reign of Terror. She arranges a meeting between her and Andrea Chénier who is suspected of betraying the Revolution. And then Bersi meets the Incroyable, suspects there's something fishy about him, and ''actually hints that "Robespierre has spies"''.
'''You'd Expect''': Bersi to lure the Incroyable away from the place where she's supposed to meet Chénier and his friend. Even if he has already noticed her with Maddalena, she can at least make sure they aren't seen together with Chénier. This way, as there's be no links to connect Chénier and Maddalena, Gérard would have no means of blackmailing the girl (since [[DespairEventHorizon all the worst in her life has already happened]]), and he might actually try to win her in a more civil way. What's more, in all probability he would not try to arrest the poet whom he genuinely likes and respects. If you stick to the real-life timeline, there are mere days left until the Reign of Terror ends and Chénier has nothing more to fear. The chances of everyone's survival would be considerably higher.
'''Instead''': Bersi talks to the Incroyable and Chénier at the same time, and then the Incroyable hides to watch what happens next. As a result, he alerts Gérard, the latter sees Maddalena with the poet and goes mad, which ultimately leads to the couple being guillotined and Gérard completely breaking down.

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