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* Speaking of the Public Execution Trap, there was a different opening trap before it that involved various victims forced to push each other off a rooftop on a tall building in order to survive.
* Kevin Greutert stated on Website/{{Twitter}} that the Public Square where the Public Execution Trap takes place was once meant to be the location for Bobby's final trap.

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* Speaking of the Public Execution Trap, Kevin Greutert [[https://twitter.com/sawspace/status/1789111970232222111 stated]] in a discussion with "sawspace" (a Website/{{Twitter}} user dedicated to documenting news and data about the franchise) that the Public Square where the trap takes place was initially meant to be the location for Bobby's final test. Back then, there was a different opening trap before it that involved various victims forced to push each other off a rooftop on a tall building in order to survive.
* Kevin Greutert stated on Website/{{Twitter}} that the Public Square where the
survive. The Public Execution Trap takes place itself was once meant to be created because Mark Burg and Oren Koules found potential in displaying a trap at the location Public Square for Bobby's final trap.the movie's marketing, but didn't want to spoil the last trap Bobby would have to face with it.
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* Kevin Greutert revealed that the Public Square was meant to be the location for Bobby's final trap.

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* Kevin Greutert revealed stated on Website/{{Twitter}} that the Public Square where the Public Execution Trap takes place was once meant to be the location for Bobby's final trap.
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** Gordon listening to John going on a monologue before the latter asks him "Are you ready to save lives?" (this line done on a voice-over during a flashback to the Public Execution Trap showing Gordon with John in the crowd).

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** Gordon listening to John going on a monologue before that closes with the latter asks him line "Are you ready to save lives?" (this line done on a voice-over during a flashback to the Public Execution Trap showing Gordon with John in the crowd).
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* Daniel Matthews was meant to appear at the survivors' meeting, but Erik Knudsen was unavailable at the time of filming. Tara and Brent Abbott from the previous film also did not return in the scene due to Shauna [=MacDonald=] and Devon Bostick's scheduling conflicts. This means that Brent's absence (in direct contrast with his mother's ''presence'') strongly implies that he has likely been brought to justice for his killing of William Easton at the end of ''Saw VI''.

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* Daniel Matthews was meant to appear at the survivors' meeting, but Erik Knudsen was unavailable at the time of filming. Tara Pamela Jenkins and Brent Abbott from the previous film also did not return in the scene due to Shauna [=MacDonald=] Samantha Lemole and Devon Bostick's scheduling conflicts. This means that Brent's case means that his absence (in direct contrast with his mother's ''presence'') strongly implies that he has likely been brought to justice for his killing of William Easton at the end of ''Saw VI''.
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* Originally, Evan, the racist skinhead played by [[Music/LinkinPark Chester Bennington]], was meant to live through the Horsepower Trap and be hospitalized afterwards. Because Bennington was under a very tight schedule at the time[[note]]as Linkin Park was recording their fourth studio album, ''A Thousand Suns'', around then[[/note]], and only had the one day for shooting, the filmmakers didn't have time to shoot his hospital scene, so Evan was rewritten to having died.

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* Originally, Evan, the racist skinhead played by [[Music/LinkinPark Chester Bennington]], was meant to live through the Horsepower Trap and be hospitalized afterwards. Because Bennington was under a very tight schedule at the time[[note]]as Linkin Park was recording their fourth studio album, ''A Thousand Suns'', ''Music/AThousandSuns'', around then[[/note]], and only had the one day for shooting, the filmmakers didn't have time to shoot his hospital scene, so Evan was rewritten to having died.
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* Daniel Matthews was meant to appear at the survivors' meeting, but Erik Knudsen was unavailable at the time of filming. Tara and Brent from the previous film also did not return in the scene due to Shauna [=MacDonald=] and Devon Bostick's scheduling conflicts. This means that Brent's absence (in direct contrast with his mother's ''presence'') strongly implies that he has likely been brought to justice for his action at the end of ''Saw VI''.

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* Daniel Matthews was meant to appear at the survivors' meeting, but Erik Knudsen was unavailable at the time of filming. Tara and Brent Abbott from the previous film also did not return in the scene due to Shauna [=MacDonald=] and Devon Bostick's scheduling conflicts. This means that Brent's absence (in direct contrast with his mother's ''presence'') strongly implies that he has likely been brought to justice for his action killing of William Easton at the end of ''Saw VI''.
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* Speaking of the Public Execution Trap, there was a different opening trap before it that involved various victims forced to push each other off a rooptop on a tall building in order to survive.

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* Speaking of the Public Execution Trap, there was a different opening trap before it that involved various victims forced to push each other off a rooptop rooftop on a tall building in order to survive.



* Daniel Matthews was meant to appear at the survivors' meeting, but Erik Knudsen was unavailable at the time of filming. Tara and Brent from the previous film also did not return in the scene due to Shauna [=MacDonald=] and Devon Bostick's scheduling conflicts.

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* Daniel Matthews was meant to appear at the survivors' meeting, but Erik Knudsen was unavailable at the time of filming. Tara and Brent from the previous film also did not return in the scene due to Shauna [=MacDonald=] and Devon Bostick's scheduling conflicts. This means that Brent's absence (in direct contrast with his mother's ''presence'') strongly implies that he has likely been brought to justice for his action at the end of ''Saw VI''.



** Melton has also stated that the Horsepower Trap was meant to be the opening trap for ''Saw VII'', with the Public Execution Trap being slated to ''Saw VIII''.

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** Melton has also stated that the Horsepower Trap was meant to be the opening trap for ''Saw VII'', with the Public Execution Trap being slated to for ''Saw VIII''.



* Yet another deleted scene showed Bobby and Cale in a bar where while having drinks, saw a Jigsaw survivor on television. From there, Cale suggests Bobby pretend to be a survivor himself and tells him he knows two women who can handle the publishing (Nina) and legal issues (Suzanne).

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* Yet another deleted scene showed Bobby and Cale in a bar where while having drinks, they saw a Jigsaw survivor on television. From there, Cale suggests Bobby pretend to be a survivor himself and tells him he knows two women who can handle the publishing (Nina) and legal issues (Suzanne).
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* The original draft for a seventh film was meant to end with a SequelHook: the reveal that Gordon was still alive; an eighth film would have then explained how he survived. Due to the disappointing box office performance of ''Saw VI'', the ideas for ''Saw VII'' and ''VIII'' were condensed into ''Saw 3D''.

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* The original draft for a seventh film was meant to end with a SequelHook: the reveal that Gordon was still alive; an eighth film would have then explained how he survived. Due to the disappointing box office performance of ''Saw VI'', the ideas for ''Saw VII'' and ''VIII'' were condensed by ExecutiveMeddling into ''Saw 3D''.
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** In relation to this, Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan stated that the survivor who appeared on the TV was meant to be Joyce. Bobby would be "taken" by her, and her story would resonate and motivate him. Joyce would then push Bobby further into the lie because she liked the fame and attention it bought them. Bobby in turn was overwhelmed with all the attention coming their way; and when he got cold feet about lying, Joyce would push him right back into the facade. According to Melton, Joyce was supposed to be a survivor who had "fallen off the rails."

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** In relation to this, this scene, Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan stated that the survivor who appeared on the TV was meant to be Joyce. Bobby would be "taken" by her, and her story would resonate and motivate him. Joyce would then push Bobby further into the lie because she liked the fame and attention it bought them. Bobby in turn was overwhelmed with all the attention coming their way; and when he got cold feet about lying, Joyce would push him right back into the facade. According to Melton, Joyce was supposed to be a survivor who had "fallen off the rails."
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** In relation to this, Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan stated that the survivor seen on the TV was meant to be Joyce. Bobby would be "taken" by her, and her story would resonate and motivate him. Joyce would then push Bobby further into the lie because she liked the fame and attention it bought them. Bobby in turn was overwhelmed with all the attention coming their way; and when he got cold feet about lying, Joyce would push him right back into the facade. According to Melton, Joyce was supposed to be a survivor who had "fallen off the rails."

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** In relation to this, Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan stated that the survivor seen who appeared on the TV was meant to be Joyce. Bobby would be "taken" by her, and her story would resonate and motivate him. Joyce would then push Bobby further into the lie because she liked the fame and attention it bought them. Bobby in turn was overwhelmed with all the attention coming their way; and when he got cold feet about lying, Joyce would push him right back into the facade. According to Melton, Joyce was supposed to be a survivor who had "fallen off the rails."
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* Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan stated that the survivor Bobby and Cale saw on TV in the bar was originally going to be Joyce. Bobby would be "taken" by her, and her story would resonate and motivate him. Joyce would then push Bobby further into the lie because she liked the fame and attention it bought them. Bobby in turn was overwhelmed with all the attention coming their way. And when Bobby would get cold feet about lying, Joyce would push him right back into the facade. According to Melton, Joyce was supposed to be a survivor who had "fallen off the rails."

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* ** In relation to this, Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan stated that the survivor Bobby and Cale saw seen on TV in the bar TV was originally going meant to be Joyce. Bobby would be "taken" by her, and her story would resonate and motivate him. Joyce would then push Bobby further into the lie because she liked the fame and attention it bought them. Bobby in turn was overwhelmed with all the attention coming their way. And way; and when Bobby would get he got cold feet about lying, Joyce would push him right back into the facade. According to Melton, Joyce was supposed to be a survivor who had "fallen off the rails."
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* Yet another deleted scene showed Bobby and Cale in a bar where while having drinks, saw Joan on television. From there, Cale suggests Bobby pretend to be a survivor himself and tells him he knows two women who can handle the publishing (Nina) and legal issues (Suzanne).

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* Yet another deleted scene showed Bobby and Cale in a bar where while having drinks, saw Joan a Jigsaw survivor on television. From there, Cale suggests Bobby pretend to be a survivor himself and tells him he knows two women who can handle the publishing (Nina) and legal issues (Suzanne).
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* There was a deleted scene that showed Bobby and Cale in a bar where while having drinks, saw a Jigsaw survivor on television. From there Cale suggested Bobby pretend to be a survivor himself and tells him he knows two women who can handle the publishing (Nina) and legal (Suzanne).
* Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan also revealed that the survivor Bobby and Cale saw on TV in the bar was originally going to be Joyce. Bobby would be "taken" by both her and her story and said story would resonate and motivate him. Joyce would then push Bobby further into the lie because she liked the fame and attention it bought them. Bobby in turn was overwhelmed with all the attention coming their way. And when Bobby would get cold feet about lying, Joyce would push him right back into the facade. According to Melton Joyce was a survivor who had "fallen off the rails."

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* There was a Yet another deleted scene that showed Bobby and Cale in a bar where while having drinks, saw a Jigsaw survivor Joan on television. From there there, Cale suggested suggests Bobby pretend to be a survivor himself and tells him he knows two women who can handle the publishing (Nina) and legal issues (Suzanne).
* Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan also revealed stated that the survivor Bobby and Cale saw on TV in the bar was originally going to be Joyce. Bobby would be "taken" by both her her, and her story and said story would resonate and motivate him. Joyce would then push Bobby further into the lie because she liked the fame and attention it bought them. Bobby in turn was overwhelmed with all the attention coming their way. And when Bobby would get cold feet about lying, Joyce would push him right back into the facade. According to Melton Melton, Joyce was supposed to be a survivor who had "fallen off the rails."

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* There was a deleted scene that showed Bobby and Cale in a bar where while having drinks, saw a Jigsaw survivor on television. From there Cale suggested Bobby pretend to be a survivor himself and tells him he knows two women who can handle the publishing (Nina) and legal (Suzanne).
* Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan also revealed that the survivor Bobby and Cale saw on TV in the bar was originally going to be Joyce. Bobby would be "taken" by both her and her story and said story would resonate and motivate him. Joyce would then push Bobby further into the lie because she liked the fame and attention it bought them. Bobby in turn was overwhelmed with all the attention coming their way. And when Bobby would get cold feet about lying, Joyce would push him right back into the facade. According to Melton Joyce was a survivor who had "fallen off the rails."
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* Another deleted scene involved Bobby finding a photo of him at the Jigsaw Survivor Group's meeting at an unknown point during his trial, followed by a flashback of him staying at an entrance away from the group until Gordon tells him that "the first step is always the hardest."
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** Gordon listening to John going on a monologue before the latter asks him "Are you ready to save lives?" (this line done on a voice-over on a flashback to the Public Execution Trap showing Gordon with John in the crowd).

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** Gordon listening to John going on a monologue before the latter asks him "Are you ready to save lives?" (this line done on a voice-over on during a flashback to the Public Execution Trap showing Gordon with John in the crowd).

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* The original draft for a seventh film was meant to end with a SequelHook: the reveal that Gordon was still alive; ''Saw VIII'' would have then explained how he survived. Due to the disappointing box office performance of ''Saw VI'', the ideas for ''VII'' and ''VIII'' were condensed into ''Saw 3D''.
** According to Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan in the movie's DVD commentary, the original pitch for ''Saw VII'''s ending was not to have Gordon trap Hoffman in the bathroom, instead focusing on Bobby's fate after his game (which was left unknown for the following movies). In the pitch, Bobby was taken to the hospital, where he would meet Gordon.

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* The original draft for a seventh film was meant to end with a SequelHook: the reveal that Gordon was still alive; ''Saw VIII'' an eighth film would have then explained how he survived. Due to the disappointing box office performance of ''Saw VI'', the ideas for ''VII'' ''Saw VII'' and ''VIII'' were condensed into ''Saw 3D''.
** According to Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan in the movie's DVD commentary, the original pitch for ''Saw VII'''s VII''[='=]s ending was not to have Gordon trap Hoffman in the bathroom, instead focusing on Bobby's fate after his game (which was left unknown for the following movies). In the pitch, Bobby was taken to the hospital, where he would meet Gordon.Gordon.
** Melton has also stated that the Horsepower Trap was meant to be the opening trap for ''Saw VII'', with the Public Execution Trap being slated to ''Saw VIII''.
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** In the commentary, it's stated that the Jigsaw accomplices revealed at the end weren't going to include just Gordon, Brad and Ryan, but also the majority of the Jigsaw Survivor Group, whose recruitment was another task given to Gordon. According to an earlier script, this was going to be shown in a flashback where every member of the group would give a testimony of their survival experience to Gordon[[note]]All of them end their testimony with a tagline for ''Saw VI'' ("He helped me."), implying that said tagline may have been meant to be a foreshadowing to this.[[/note]] after he speaks to them with a message originally written by John. The reason this idea was dropped is currently unknown, though the writers have said that even the identities of the pigmasks who are supposed to be Brad and Ryan can be left to the viewer's imagination.

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** In the commentary, it's stated that the The Jigsaw accomplices revealed at the end weren't going to include just Gordon, Brad and Ryan, but also the majority of the Jigsaw Survivor Group, whose recruitment was another task given to Gordon. According to an earlier script, this was going to be shown in a flashback where every member of the group would give a testimony of their survival experience to Gordon[[note]]All of them end their testimony with a tagline for ''Saw VI'' ("He helped me."), implying that said tagline may have been meant to be a foreshadowing to this.[[/note]] after he speaks to them with a message originally written by John. The reason this idea was dropped is currently unknown, though the writers have said that even the identities of the pigmasks who are supposed to be Brad and Ryan can be left to the viewer's imagination.
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* Speaking of the Public Execution Trap, there was a different opening trap before it that involved various victims forced to push each other off a rooptop in order to survive.

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** In the same script, the trap's location was going to be a toy store rather than a home improvement store, with a build-up involving a toy train that the aforementioned child follows to a sign reading "Don't touch the glass", with a pair of messages reading "Two clowns with all too familiar spirals on their faces" on its sides (while another toy plays the "Hello Zepp" {{Leitmotif}}). When Brad and Ryan wake up, they would appear with costumes of Billy the Puppet; meanwhile, Dina would be in a ballerina costume.

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** In the same script, the trap's location was going to be a toy store rather than a home improvement store, with a build-up involving a toy train that the aforementioned child follows to a sign reading "Don't touch the glass", with a pair of messages reading "Two clowns with all too familiar spirals on their faces" on its sides (while another toy plays the a rendition of "Hello Zepp" {{Leitmotif}}).Zepp"). When Brad and Ryan wake up, they would appear with costumes of Billy the Puppet; meanwhile, Dina would be in a ballerina costume.
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* In the Public Execution Trap:
** Brad originally thrusted the saw into Ryan, impaling him and making Dina and Brad the survivors. The script was changed to make Dina the loser and Brad and Ryan the winners of the trap.
** According from an earlier script, the scene was going to begin from the view of a child (named Ethan in the script) with his mother.
** In the same script, the trap's location was going to be a toy store rather than a home improvement store, with a build-up involving a toy train that the aforementioned child follows to a sign reading "Don't touch the glass", with a pair of messages reading "Two clowns with all too familiar spirals on their faces" on its sides (while another toy plays the "Hello Zepp" {{Leitmotif}}). When Brad and Ryan wake up, they would appear with costumes of Billy the Puppet; meanwhile, Dina would be in a ballerina costume.
** A woman would be seen trying to break one of the windows with a suitcase, only for her to be shot by a mounted shotgun.
** The scene would end with a shot of John among the crowd, who had been watching the game unfold.
* Early on, Hoffman would be already packing things up to leave the city, only to stop for a moment when he sees a photo of Bobby on a wall. Interestingly, the safe Daniel was found inside in ''Saw II'' was going to be seen here in the background.
* There were going to be more scenes at the safe house Jill is transferred to, such as her giving a grocery list to an officer who would go to buy food for her.
* Originally, Evan, the racist skinhead played by [[Music/LinkinPark Chester Bennington]], was meant to live through the Horsepower Trap and be hospitalized afterwards. Because Bennington was under a very tight schedule at the time[[note]]as Linkin Park was recording their fourth studio album, ''A Thousand Suns'', around then[[/note]], and only had the one day for shooting, the filmmakers didn't have time to shoot his hospital scene, so Evan was rewritten to having died.
* Daniel Matthews was meant to appear at the survivors' meeting, but Erik Knudsen was unavailable at the time of filming. Tara and Brent from the previous film also did not return in the scene due to Shauna [=MacDonald=] and Devon Bostick's scheduling conflicts.
* The original draft for a seventh film was meant to end with a SequelHook: the reveal that Gordon was still alive; ''Saw VIII'' would have then explained how he survived. Due to the disappointing box office performance of ''Saw VI'', the ideas for ''VII'' and ''VIII'' were condensed into ''Saw 3D''.
** According to Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan in the movie's DVD commentary, the original pitch for ''Saw VII'''s ending was not to have Gordon trap Hoffman in the bathroom, instead focusing on Bobby's fate after his game (which was left unknown for the following movies). In the pitch, Bobby was taken to the hospital, where he would meet Gordon.
* Speaking of the original ''VII'' and ''VIII'', there are plenty of scrapped scenes and plot points involving Gordon, some of which were carried on to earlier drafts of ''3D'' itself, including:
** Gordon listening to John going on a monologue before the latter asks him "Are you ready to save lives?" (this line done on a voice-over on a flashback to the Public Execution Trap showing Gordon with John in the crowd).
** Gordon placing the ankle brace for Eric's broken foot before the latter is put in the Ice Block Trap in ''Saw IV''.
** In the commentary, it's stated that the Jigsaw accomplices revealed at the end weren't going to include just Gordon, Brad and Ryan, but also the majority of the Jigsaw Survivor Group, whose recruitment was another task given to Gordon. According to an earlier script, this was going to be shown in a flashback where every member of the group would give a testimony of their survival experience to Gordon[[note]]All of them end their testimony with a tagline for ''Saw VI'' ("He helped me."), implying that said tagline may have been meant to be a foreshadowing to this.[[/note]] after he speaks to them with a message originally written by John. The reason this idea was dropped is currently unknown, though the writers have said that even the identities of the pigmasks who are supposed to be Brad and Ryan can be left to the viewer's imagination.
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