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Velma's mom approve of her locking her father, sophie, and worst of all Amanda out of the house who is a baby she is just as bad as the rest.


* WorldOfJerkass: With the exception of Norville, his dad, and Velma's mother, everyone else is a jerk to some degree. Many of the characters exhibit signs of intolerance toward one another. Fred is an affluent, pampered imbecile who only recalls women based on how gorgeous they are, Velma is bitter and critical and uses self-referential humor to justify her own conduct, and Daphne is the cruel popular girl. [[spoiler:The apparent sexual tension between Daphne and Velma, who both seem drawn to one another, is what causes their hostility toward one another. It is subsequently revealed that Velma was the one who initiated the conflict. Once Velma admits her part in destroying their previous friendship, Daphne is more than willing to put the past behind her.]]

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* WorldOfJerkass: With the exception of Norville, Norville and his dad, and Velma's mother, everyone else is a jerk to some degree. Many of the characters exhibit signs of intolerance toward one another. Fred is an affluent, pampered imbecile who only recalls women based on how gorgeous they are, Velma is bitter and critical and uses self-referential humor to justify her own conduct, and Daphne is the cruel popular girl. [[spoiler:The apparent sexual tension between Daphne and Velma, who both seem drawn to one another, is what causes their hostility toward one another. It is subsequently revealed that Velma was the one who initiated the conflict. Once Velma admits her part in destroying their previous friendship, Daphne is more than willing to put the past behind her.]]
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* WorldOfJerkass: Aside from Norville, his dad, and Velma's mom, everyone else is a jerk to some extent. Many characters act like they can't stand being around each other. Velma is bitter and judgmental and excuses her own behavior through self-referential humor, Fred is a privileged and pampered moron who only remembers women by how attractive they are, and Daphne is the mean popular girl. [[spoiler:The reason why Daphne and Velma are mean to each other is through implied sexual tension as they both appear to be attracted to each other, with it later revealed that the antagonism started on Velma's end. Daphne is more than happy to bury the hatchet once Velma acknowledges the role that she played in ruining their prior friendship.]]

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* WorldOfJerkass: Aside from With the exception of Norville, his dad, and Velma's mom, mother, everyone else is a jerk to some extent. degree. Many of the characters act like exhibit signs of intolerance toward one another. Fred is an affluent, pampered imbecile who only recalls women based on how gorgeous they can't stand being around each other. are, Velma is bitter and judgmental critical and excuses her own behavior through uses self-referential humor, Fred is a privileged and pampered moron who only remembers women by how attractive they are, humor to justify her own conduct, and Daphne is the mean cruel popular girl. [[spoiler:The reason why Daphne and Velma are mean to each other is through implied apparent sexual tension as they between Daphne and Velma, who both appear seem drawn to be attracted to each other, with it later one another, is what causes their hostility toward one another. It is subsequently revealed that Velma was the antagonism started on Velma's end. one who initiated the conflict. Once Velma admits her part in destroying their previous friendship, Daphne is more than happy willing to bury put the hatchet once Velma acknowledges the role that she played in ruining their prior friendship.past behind her.]]
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** In "Velma Makes A List," Velma attempts protecting the popular girls by making them ugly. The whole time, she treats it as deprogramming and talks down to them for liking to focus on their appearance. Olive finally tears into Velma, calling out her actions as shaming instead of liberating. It could have been an interesting lesson about how women can express themselves in traditionally feminine ways and be as valid as women who don't. Unfortunately, this is undermined in the next scene, where the same popular teenagers clear a path by seductively dancing. Adding to that, Velma twists the lesson to validate her own judgmental, {{Jerkass}} personality.

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** In "Velma Makes A List," Velma attempts protecting the popular girls by making them ugly. The whole time, she treats it as deprogramming and talks down to them for liking to focus on their appearance. Olive finally tears into Velma, calling out her actions as shaming instead of liberating. It could have been an interesting lesson about how women can express themselves in traditionally feminine ways and be as valid as women who don't. Unfortunately, this is undermined in the next scene, where the same popular teenagers clear a path by seductively dancing. Adding to that, Velma twists the lesson to validate her own judgmental, {{Jerkass}} personality. On top of all that the entire point of the exercise was to stop them from being murdered by a serial killer thereby implying the popular girls care more about being hot than they do about [[SkewedPriorities not being murdered]].
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** In "Velma Makes A List," Velma attempts protecting the popular girls by making them ugly. The whole time, she treats it as deprogramming and talks down to them for liking to focus on their appearance. Olive finally tears into Velma, calling out her actions as shaming instead of liberating. It could have been an interesting lesson about how women can express themselves in traditionally feminine ways and be as valid as women who don't. Unfortunately, this is undermined in the next scene, where the same popular teenagers clear a path by seductively dancing. Adding to that, Velma twists the lesson to validate her own judgmental, {{Jerkass}} personality.
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* CluelessAesop:
** "Velma Kai" has mental health as its common theme. The episode seems to make fun of it at first, treating Norville's father as a joke because he is a high school counselor. It then makes a sudden shift when Velma reads Daphne's diary and exposes her mental health issues to the student body, which is treated as the terrible act it is. Right after, the episode's back to making jokes about how "hurting people's feelings is worse than physically hurting them."

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* AesopAmnesia: There are multiple episodes where Velma is forced to learn to not be selfish or judgmental but by the start of the next episode, [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk she goes right back to being selfish and judgmental]]. The most egregious example is when she remembers [[spoiler: that she was a terror as a kid who drank alcohol, ''permanently dislodged her mother's eyeball'' and ruined her book scripts, effectively being a reason, alongside her father, that her mother (rightly) abandoned her family for. When its stated she could use this revalation to be a better person, she flat out refuses.]]

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* AesopAmnesia: There are multiple episodes where Velma is forced to learn to not be selfish or judgmental but by the start of the next episode, [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk she goes right back to being selfish and judgmental]]. The most egregious example is when in the premiere episode where she remembers [[spoiler: that she was a terror as a kid who drank alcohol, ''permanently dislodged her mother's eyeball'' and ruined her book scripts, effectively being a one reason, alongside her father, that her mother (rightly) abandoned her family for. When its it's stated she could use this revalation revelation to be a better person, she flat out refuses.]]



* BitchInSheepsClothing: Daphne, a popular girl at school who has aloving set of lesbian parents, is the big drug pusher, for no other reason than she feels justified in doing it because she's seen it on television shows.

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* AesopAmnesia: There are multiple episodes where Velma is forced to learn to not be selfish or judgmental but by the start of the next episode, [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk she goes right back to being selfish and judgmental]].

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* AesopAmnesia: There are multiple episodes where Velma is forced to learn to not be selfish or judgmental but by the start of the next episode, [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk she goes right back to being selfish and judgmental]]. The most egregious example is when she remembers [[spoiler: that she was a terror as a kid who drank alcohol, ''permanently dislodged her mother's eyeball'' and ruined her book scripts, effectively being a reason, alongside her father, that her mother (rightly) abandoned her family for. When its stated she could use this revalation to be a better person, she flat out refuses.]]


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* BitchInSheepsClothing: Daphne, a popular girl at school who has aloving set of lesbian parents, is the big drug pusher, for no other reason than she feels justified in doing it because she's seen it on television shows.
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw:
** Fred, a fifteen year old minor, is depicted as being sent to an adult prison for murder when he would have been sent to a juvenile dentition center where he would have been kept until he turned eighteen and they would have decided whether to set him free or switch him to actual prison.
** [[spoiler:Despite Diya confessing that she’s the serial killer, she would not be sentenced immediately to death row. She would be put on trial and sentenced if she pleaded guilty. Though it’s likely she would be put in a mental institution due to her lack of memories of the situation. Of course, she actually isn’t the serial killer but instead was an UnwittingPawn due to being hypnotized by the real serial killer]].
* ArtisticLicenseMedicine: Daphne snaps Velma out of her hallucination-induced panic attack by kissing her. Not only she is clearly far from the right person to even kiss her, kissing someone while they are in a panic attack to calm them down, even by a lover, would only make the situation worse and increase the victim's panic levels due to the sudden intrusion.



* DeadlierThanTheMale: [[spoiler:Victoria Jones turns out to be the real culprit behind everything and has used her husband via hypnosis to aid her plan to switch Fred’s brain for a more suitable one.]]
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* ArtisticLicenseMedicine: Daphne snaps Velma out of her hallucination-induced panic attack by kissing her. Not only she is clearly far from the right person to even kiss her, kissing someone while they are in a panic attack to calm them down, even by a lover, would only make the situation worse and increase the victim's panic levels due to the sudden intrusion.

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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: [[spoiler:Despite Diya confessing that she’s the serial killer, she would not be sentenced immediately to death row. She would be put on trial and sentenced if she pleaded guilty. Though it’s likely she would be put in a mental institution due to her lack of memories of the situation. Of course, she actually isn’t the serial killer but instead was an UnwittingPawn due to being hypnotized by the real serial killer]].

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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: ArtisticLicenseLaw:
** Fred, a fifteen year old minor, is depicted as being sent to an adult prison for murder when he would have been sent to a juvenile dentition center where he would have been kept until he turned eighteen and they would have decided whether to set him free or switch him to actual prison.
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[[spoiler:Despite Diya confessing that she’s the serial killer, she would not be sentenced immediately to death row. She would be put on trial and sentenced if she pleaded guilty. Though it’s likely she would be put in a mental institution due to her lack of memories of the situation. Of course, she actually isn’t the serial killer but instead was an UnwittingPawn due to being hypnotized by the real serial killer]].
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* InformedPoverty: Velma calls her family so poor that they can't even afford a new coat for her when Aman recklessly spends money on Sophie. However, they are seen in a rather nice suburban house, while having the average luxuries her fellow peers enjoy.

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* UselessProtagonist: For a show which the main two mysteries are "What happened to Velma's mother?" and "Who is murdering girls and cutting their brains out?", Velma does surprisingly little to investigate either. [[spoiler:While Velma does eventually figure out both mysteries and take down the villain, she would have been completely unable to do so without evidence provided by Daphne and intervention from Norville and Fred in the finale.(Norville arrived due to Velma giving him a phone call, giving Velma some indirect usefulness.]]
* VoodooShark: [[spoiler:Victoria's plan is to replace Fred's brain with that of someone intelligent, as he's too inept to take over the family business. Given that she has access to hypnotism that borders on mind control, it's never explained why she doesn't just hypnotize Fred into being a better businessman.]]

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* UselessProtagonist: For a show which the main two mysteries are "What happened to Velma's mother?" and "Who is murdering girls and cutting their brains out?", Velma does surprisingly little to investigate either. [[spoiler:While Velma does eventually figure out both mysteries and take down the villain, she would have been completely unable to do so without evidence provided by Daphne and intervention from Norville and Fred in the finale.finale (Norville arrived due to Velma giving him a phone call, giving Velma some indirect usefulness.]]
* VoodooShark: [[spoiler:Victoria's plan is to replace Fred's brain with that of someone intelligent, as he's too inept to take over the family business. Given that she has access to hypnotism that borders on mind control, it's never explained why she doesn't just hypnotize Fred into being a better businessman.
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* VoodooShark: [[spoiler:Victoria's plan is to replace Fred's brain with that of someone intelligent, as he's too inept to take over the family business. Given that she has access to hypnotism that borders on mind control, it's never explained why she doesn't just hypnotize Fred into being a better businessman.]]
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** Deep under the ground ''... in the Woods'' near Crystal Mountain can be glimpsed [[spoiler:the skeleton of Scooby-Doo]]?!

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** Deep under the ground ''... in the Woods'' woods '' near Crystal Mountain can be glimpsed [[spoiler:the skeleton of Scooby-Doo]]?!
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* WorldOfJerkass: Aside from Norville and Velma's mom, everyone is just a jerk to each other and acts like they can't stand being around each other. Velma is bitter and judgmental and excuses her own behavior through self-referential humor, Fred is a privileged and pampered moron who only remembers women by how attractive they are, and Daphne is the mean popular girl. [[spoiler:The reason why Daphne and Velma are mean to each other is through implied sexual tension as they both appear to be attracted to each other, with it later revealed that the antagonism started on Velma's end. Daphne is more than happy to bury the hatchet once Velma acknowledges the role that she played in ruining their prior friendship.]]

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* WorldOfJerkass: Aside from Norville Norville, his dad, and Velma's mom, everyone else is just a jerk to each other and acts some extent. Many characters act like they can't stand being around each other. Velma is bitter and judgmental and excuses her own behavior through self-referential humor, Fred is a privileged and pampered moron who only remembers women by how attractive they are, and Daphne is the mean popular girl. [[spoiler:The reason why Daphne and Velma are mean to each other is through implied sexual tension as they both appear to be attracted to each other, with it later revealed that the antagonism started on Velma's end. Daphne is more than happy to bury the hatchet once Velma acknowledges the role that she played in ruining their prior friendship.]]
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* UselessProtagonist: For a show which the main two mysteries are "What happened to Velma's mother?" and "Who is murdering girls and cutting their brains out?", Velma does surprisingly little to investigate either. [[spoiler:While Velma does eventually figure out both mysteries and take down the villain, she would have been completely unable to do so without evidence provided by Daphne and intervention from Norville and Fred in the finale.]]

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* UselessProtagonist: For a show which the main two mysteries are "What happened to Velma's mother?" and "Who is murdering girls and cutting their brains out?", Velma does surprisingly little to investigate either. [[spoiler:While Velma does eventually figure out both mysteries and take down the villain, she would have been completely unable to do so without evidence provided by Daphne and intervention from Norville and Fred in the finale.(Norville arrived due to Velma giving him a phone call, giving Velma some indirect usefulness.]]
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* InNameOnly: The characters have very little in common with most of their counterparts apart from their name and clothing. This is intentional as the series is very self-aware about shows that alter character personas to be more "modern" and "woke".

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* InNameOnly: The characters have very little in common with most of their counterparts apart from their name and clothing. This is intentional as the series is very self-aware about shows that alter character personas to be more "modern" and "woke". The villain is a generic slasher in a welder's mask with an M.O. of murdering teenage girls rather than someone dressing up in a costume to perform a ScoobyDooHoax.
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* ScoobyDoobyDoors: Parodied in "Fog Fest" when Norville chases after Fred. Fred lampshades that moving through doors this way is physically impossible, and both men start to freak out before Fred realizes it's just a carnival ride.
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* ScoobyDoobyDoors: Parodied in "Fog Fest" when Norville chases after Fred. Fred lampshades that moving through doors this way is physically impossible, and both men start to freak out before realizing it's just a carnival ride.
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* ScoobyDoobyDoors: Parodied in "Fog Fest" when Norville chases after Fred. Fred lampshades that moving through doors this way is physically impossible, and both men start to freak out before Fred realizes it's just a carnival ride.
* ScoobyDoobyDoors: Parodied in "Fog Fest" when Norville chases after Fred. Fred lampshades that moving through doors this way is physically impossible, and both men start to freak out before realizing it's just a carnival ride.
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* BitchInSheepsClothing: Fred's mother Victoria comes off throughout the series as only a passive socialite and an enabler of his whole personality. The final episodes first reveal her to be the real ManBehindTheMan of the family business [[spoiler:and then the serial killer; being revealed as a ManipulativeBitch and who masterminded everything as just parts of a lifelong master plan.]]
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** If one could call this an "affectionate parody", then getting rabies from a beloved family pet is just a simple little love-bite.

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** If one could call this an "affectionate parody", then getting rabies from a beloved family pet The series is just a simple little love-bite. self-aware parody of the ''Franchise/ScoobyDoo'' universe, lampooning some of the tropes and perceived reputations of the usual Mystery Inc. characters. This is mashed with satirizing tropes associated with adapting existing properties into teen dramas and murder mystery adaptations like ''Series/{{Riverdale}}'' to Creator/ArchieComics. This also includes a bit of SelfDeprecation of "woke reboots" - a joke that is exploited throughout the series as early as the first teaser.
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** The series is a self-aware parody of the ''Franchise/ScoobyDoo'' universe, lampooning some of the tropes and perceived reputations of the usual Mystery Inc. characters. This is mashed with satirizing tropes associated with adapting existing properties into teen dramas and murder mystery adaptations like ''Series/{{Riverdale}}'' to Creator/ArchieComics. This also includes a bit of SelfDeprecation of "woke reboots" - a joke that is exploited throughout the series as early as the first teaser.

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** The series If one could call this an "affectionate parody", then getting rabies from a beloved family pet is just a self-aware parody of the ''Franchise/ScoobyDoo'' universe, lampooning some of the tropes and perceived reputations of the usual Mystery Inc. characters. This is mashed with satirizing tropes associated with adapting existing properties into teen dramas and murder mystery adaptations like ''Series/{{Riverdale}}'' to Creator/ArchieComics. This also includes a bit of SelfDeprecation of "woke reboots" - a joke that is exploited throughout the series as early as the first teaser.simple little love-bite.
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* {{Irony}}: Despite being an aspiring detective, Velma actually has the poor skills and qualities of a detective. [[spoiler: In terms of skills, she very rarely gathers evidence as it's either found by accident, provided to her, or someone unwittingly tells her about it. In terms of qualities, Velma is biased against white men and she impulsively accuses two men of murder without thinking it through: she accuses Fred of murder but it's shown in the trial can't use a knife and thus he wouldn't be able to surgically remove a brain. She finds a welding mask and accuses Lamont Rogers of murder until he and Norville explain that he had a solid alibi for circumstantial evidence.]]

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* {{Irony}}: Despite being an aspiring detective, Velma actually has the poor skills and qualities of a detective. [[spoiler: In terms of skills, she very rarely gathers evidence as it's either found by accident, provided to her, or someone unwittingly tells her about it. In terms of qualities, Velma is biased against white men and she impulsively accuses two men of murder without thinking it through: she accuses Fred of murder but it's shown in the trial can't use a knife and thus he wouldn't be able to surgically remove a brain. She brain, Velma then finds a welding mask and accuses Lamont Rogers of murder until he and Norville explain that he Lamont had a solid alibi for circumstantial evidence.]]
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* {{Irony}}: Despite being an aspiring detective, Velma actually has the poor skills and qualities of a detective. [[spoiler: In terms of skills, she very rarely gathers evidence as it's either found by accident, provided to her, or someone unwittingly tells her about it. In terms of qualities, Velma is biased against white men and she impulsively accuses two men of murder without thinking it through: she accuses Fred of murder but it's shown in the trial can't use a knife and thus he wouldn't be able to surgically remove a brain. She finds a welding mask and accuses Lamont Rogers of murder until he and Norville explain that he had a solid alibi for circumstantial evidence.]]
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* BrokenAesop: The series tries to claim that everyone listens to men, especially white men. But Norville's dad, Lamont Rogers, disproves that because no one respects his authority as a guidance counselor, especially [[DeadpanSnarker Velma]]. His wife in fact gets more respected and she's a black woman.
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* BrokenAesop: The series tries to claim that everyone listens to men, especially white men. But Norville's dad, Lamont Rogers, disproves that because no one respects his authority as a guidance counselor, especially [[DeadpanSnarker Velma]]. His wife in fact gets more respected and she's a black woman.
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** One of the subplots in Episode 2 is Velma's father taking Fred's case despite the risk of destroying his career if he fails. By the end of the Episode Fred's trial has ended with a guilty verdict and Velma's father laments that he's ruined. Despite the obvious setup Velma's father's ruined career never comes up again after this.

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** One of the subplots in Episode 2 is Velma's father taking Fred's case despite the risk of destroying his career if he fails. By the end of the Episode episode Fred's trial has ended with a guilty verdict and Velma's father laments that he's ruined. Despite the obvious setup Velma's father's ruined career never comes up again after this.
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* SecurityCling: The girls cling on each other and scream when Velma hits Daphne with a crowbar.
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[[https://deadline.com/2023/02/channing-dungeys-warner-bros-tv-comedy-business-mindy-kaling-hacks-1235256372/amp/ A second season is in development.]]

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