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** Frosty first appeared in the Rankin & Bass Christmas special WesternAnimation/FrostyTheSnowman.
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** The introductory music is from "It Happened In Sun Valley", in the Twentieth Century-Fox Picture ''Sun Valley Serenade''. The album "Mr. Hankey's Christmas Classics" will later have Stan and Wendy perform a cover of the song.
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** When Santa picks up and spins Jesus around and throws him is similar to the 1995 Pixar film WesternAnimation/ToyStory when one of Andy's toys picks Woody and spins him around and tosses him.
** The statue Kenny's head knocked over is a reference to Matt and Trey's Film/Orgazmo, only here it is a mirror image.
** A possibly unintentional one, but Jesus executes a Film/TheThreeStooges eye gouge to Santa.
** The scene when the statue falls on the children is very much like the scene at the end of the Monty Python opening credits in which the foot squishes the chicken/man. They both have very similar squishing sounds as well.
** The phrase "Come on, lumberboy!" is a reference to the fact that Jesus followed stepfather Joseph into carpentry.
** The statue Kenny's head knocked over is a reference to Matt and Trey's Film/Orgazmo, only here it is a mirror image.
** A possibly unintentional one, but Jesus executes a Film/TheThreeStooges eye gouge to Santa.
** The scene when the statue falls on the children is very much like the scene at the end of the Monty Python opening credits in which the foot squishes the chicken/man. They both have very similar squishing sounds as well.
** The phrase "Come on, lumberboy!" is a reference to the fact that Jesus followed stepfather Joseph into carpentry.
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* InsaneTrollLogic: After everything he went through bringing that snowman to life and watching it kill two of his friends before it gets destroyed by Jesus, Proto-Kyle says he learned the true meaning of Christmas. Which is presents.
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* VitriolicBestBuds: Most of the screentime with Proto-Stan and Proto-Kyle has them arguing or swearing at each other, but they still celebrate Christmas together.
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* WouldHurtAChild: Santa flings Wendy from his lap and unto the air, and both him and Jesus accidentally get several kids (including Kenny) crushed to death during their fight.
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* RedEyesTakeWarning: It's when Frosty loses his coal black eyes for shiny red ones that the boys realize they've screwed up.
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* AnAesop: Brian Boitano reminds the boys that Christmas is the one time of year when everyone tries to get along and be good to each other.
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* AdaptationalDumbass: While Stan is still the most sensible of the boys, he's more childish and mean-spirited than in the previous short. Tellingly, ''he's'' the one to deliver the short's SpoofAesop instead of Kyle this time around.
* AdaptationalJerkass: Cartman was mostly TheQuietOne in the first short. Here, he takes Kyle's spot as the mouthy and insensitive kid of the team.
* AdaptationalNiceGuy: Kyle still has a temper, but he's presented as the victim of mean teasing instead of the source of the boys' problems.
* AnAesop: Brian Boitano reminds the boys that Christmas is the one time of year when everyone tries to get along and be good to each other. [[SpoofAesop The boys learn something else along the way]].
* BefriendingTheEnemy: After fighting their differences away, Jesus and Santa eventually make up thanks to Brian Boitano reminding them of the true meaning of Christmas. Jesus even invites Santa to an orange smoothie at the end.
* AdaptationalJerkass: Cartman was mostly TheQuietOne in the first short. Here, he takes Kyle's spot as the mouthy and insensitive kid of the team.
* AdaptationalNiceGuy: Kyle still has a temper, but he's presented as the victim of mean teasing instead of the source of the boys' problems.
* AnAesop: Brian Boitano reminds the boys that Christmas is the one time of year when everyone tries to get along and be good to each other. [[SpoofAesop The boys learn something else along the way]].
* BefriendingTheEnemy: After fighting their differences away, Jesus and Santa eventually make up thanks to Brian Boitano reminding them of the true meaning of Christmas. Jesus even invites Santa to an orange smoothie at the end.
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* {{Jerkass}}: Cartman is the most foul-mouthed of the kids, and also the one who teases Kyle the most.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Stan teases Kyle for his Judaism more than once in this short, but he shows worry when he believes that Jesus has come to kill him.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Stan teases Kyle for his Judaism more than once in this short, but he shows worry when he believes that Jesus has come to kill him.
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* EnragedByIdiocy: Proto-Stan doesn't hold back from throwing insults at Proto-Kyle after he gets two of their friends killed.
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* JesusWasWayCool: Jesus kills Frosty and saves the day seconds after being born.
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* EldritchAbomination: Frosty is portrayed as this, with tentacles and a terror face.
* GenericDoomsdayVillain: The snowman doesn't seem to have a motivation other than killing people, though he shows some intelligence when he disguises himself as Santa to lure the boys into a trap.
* NightmareFace: After being brought to life, Frosty has one of these.
* OpeningDissonance: The episode begins with the boys happily singing ''Frosty the Snowman'' as they build the titular snowman. The rest of the episode is about the boys trying to escape from a killer snowman as it tries to kill them.
* AmbiguouslyJewish: When Stan asks Kyle if he's Jewish, Kyle responds with "I think so". When he finds out that Hannukah gives you eight days of presents, his beliefs become ''much'' stronger.
* HeelFaithTurn: All the boys (including ''Cartman'') become jews at the end when they find out it allows them eight days worth of presents.
** A minor example when Stan says that ''The Dreidel Song'' is stupid, when he was the one who told Kyle to sing Hannukah songs.
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* PoliticallyIncorrectHero: Cartman's EstablishingCharacterMoment is mocking Kyle for being Jewish.
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* PoliticallyIncorrectHero: PoliticallyIncorrectHero:
** Cartman's EstablishingCharacterMoment is mocking Kyle for beingJewish. Jewish.
** [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness Stan is also portrayed as this in this episode]] when he tells Kyle that he can't sing Christmas songs because he's Jewish.
** Cartman's EstablishingCharacterMoment is mocking Kyle for being
** [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness Stan is also portrayed as this in this episode]] when he tells Kyle that he can't sing Christmas songs because he's Jewish.
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* OpeningDissonance: Like the previous short, ''Jesus vs. Santa'' begins rather tame, with the boys singing ''We Wish You a Merry Christmas'' and ''The Dreidel Song''. The rest of the episode is ''a lot'' darker.
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* DeathOfAChild: Even worse than the previous short, with a total of 7 onscreen deaths. They're not pretty either.
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* KarmaHoudini: While Jesus and Santa make up at the end of the episode, they don't receive any comeuppance for the collateral damage caused by their fight, including at least 7 child deaths.
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: The kids are surprised to see that Jesus is in the town of South Park. In the actual series, Jesus lives in South Park and everybody seems not to see this as particularly interesting.
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: EarlyInstallmentWeirdness:
** The kids are surprised to see that Jesus is in the town of South Park. In the actual series, Jesus lives in South Park and everybody seems not to see this as particularlyinteresting.interesting.
** While not to the extent of Cartman, Stan is shown to make fun of Kyle's Judaism too, a trait that never shows up in the show proper. Tellingly, in Recap/SouthParkS4E17AVeryCrappyChristmas, which portrays this short as an InUniverse Christmas card made by the boys, the scene where Stan mocks ''the dreidel song'' is omitted when Stan and Kyle are on the recording booth.
** The kids are surprised to see that Jesus is in the town of South Park. In the actual series, Jesus lives in South Park and everybody seems not to see this as particularly
** While not to the extent of Cartman, Stan is shown to make fun of Kyle's Judaism too, a trait that never shows up in the show proper. Tellingly, in Recap/SouthParkS4E17AVeryCrappyChristmas, which portrays this short as an InUniverse Christmas card made by the boys, the scene where Stan mocks ''the dreidel song'' is omitted when Stan and Kyle are on the recording booth.
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* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: The boys hardly react to the fight between Jesus and Santa, only showing worry when they start egging them on to join.
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* PsychophaticManchild: Both Jesus and Santa fight like kids in a playground, paying no mind to the collateral damage of their fight.
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* PsychophaticManchild: PsychopathicManchild: Both Jesus and Santa fight like kids in a playground, paying no mind to the collateral damage of their fight.
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* ForgottenFallenFriend: Like in the previous short, Kenny gets killed late through the second act, but Stan, Kyle, and Cartman carry on with their Christmas (or Hannukah) without paying his rat-infested corpse any mind.
* PsychophaticManchild: Both Jesus and Santa fight like kids in a playground, paying no mind to the collateral damage of their fight.
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* [[WhatWouldXDo What Would Brian Boitano Do?]]: The boys ask themselves this, and Boitano appears to break up the fight between Jesus and Santa.
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* [[WhatWouldXDo What Would Brian Boitano Do?]]: The boys ask themselves this, and Boitano promptly appears to break up the fight between Jesus and Santa.Santa.
* VitriolicBestBuds: The boys here have it worse than the previous short; most of their dialogue here is them insulting each other.
* VitriolicBestBuds: The boys here have it worse than the previous short; most of their dialogue here is them insulting each other.
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* EarlyInstallmentCharacterDesignDifference: Wendy's jacket is blue instead of light purple, her gloves and trim are pink instead of navy blue, and her pants are black instead of yellow.
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* BittersweetEnding: Jesus and Santa make up, and the boys finally get to meet ''the'' Brian Boitano. However, Kenny (and at least six other children) have been killed in the fight, and all the boys learn from the whole ordeal is that [[SpoofAesop Christmas is about presents]].
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* SitcomArchNemesis: Jesus and Santa, at least until the end of the episode, where they make up.
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** Jesus tells the boys that he loves all his children, but he doesn't blink when he accidentally kills ''three'' kids with a blow aimed for Santa.
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** Jesus tells the boys that he loves all his children, but he doesn't blink when he accidentally kills ''three'' kids with a blow aimed for Santa. Furthermore, his search for retribution completely contradicts the "turn the other cheek" teachings he's famous for.
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* BittersweetEnding: Jesus kills Frosty and saves Christmas, but two out of the four kids are dead. However, the survivors don't seem too agitated by the experience.
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* OhCrap: The boys (especially Proto-Kyle) after bringing Frosty back to life.
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* AchillesHeel: Frosty's hat. When Jesus removes it with his halo, he crumbles back into normal snow.
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* EveryoneHasStandards: Proto-Stan may be a little too foul-mouthed for his age, but he draws the line at saying the F-word in front of Baby Jesus, [[BrattyHalfPint unlike Kyle]].
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* EveryoneHasStandards: Proto-Stan may be a little too foul-mouthed for his age, but he draws the line at saying the F-word in front of Baby Jesus, [[BrattyHalfPint unlike Kyle]].Proto-Kyle]].
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* NotSoAboveItAll: After playing the StraightMan through most of the story, Proto-Stan eventually agrees with Proto-Kyle's SpoofAesop, if only because he knows where his parents keep his Christmas presents.
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** ShoutOut: Jesus and Santa's battle uses music from ''VideoGame/MortalKombat3''.
* {{Hypocrite}}:
** Jesus tells the boys that he loves all his children, but he doesn't blink when he accidentally kills ''three'' kids with a blow aimed for Santa.
** Likewise, Santa claims that his goal is to bring happiness to children all over the world, before carelessly throwing a stunned Wendy off his lap to fight Jesus. Furthermore, during his fight with Jesus, he accidentally kills Kenny and three children bystanders with a blow aimed for Jesus.
* ItsAllAboutMe: Both Santa and Jesus believe that Christmas is about them, which kickstarts their fight. They get better in the end thanks to Brian Boitano.
** Jesus tells the boys that he loves all his children, but he doesn't blink when he accidentally kills ''three'' kids with a blow aimed for Santa.
** Likewise, Santa claims that his goal is to bring happiness to children all over the world, before carelessly throwing a stunned Wendy off his lap to fight Jesus. Furthermore, during his fight with Jesus, he accidentally kills Kenny and three children bystanders with a blow aimed for Jesus.
* ItsAllAboutMe: Both Santa and Jesus believe that Christmas is about them, which kickstarts their fight. They get better in the end thanks to Brian Boitano.
* MotiveMisidentification: When Jesus tells the boys that he has arrived to seek retribution, Kyle initially believes that he's there kill him for being Jewish. Luckily for him, Jesus has a bigger fish to fry.
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** The boys when Jesus first appears before them. Especially Kyle who believes he's there to kill him for being jewish.Jewish.
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* {{Jerkass:}} Proto-Kyle refuses to take accountability for bringing Frosty to life, shows no remorse when the monster snowman kills his friends, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and even says "fuck" in front of Jesus.]]
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* {{Jerkass:}} {{Jerkass}}: Proto-Kyle refuses to take accountability for bringing Frosty to life, shows no remorse when the monster snowman kills his friends, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and even says "fuck" in front of Jesus.]]
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* AxCrazy: After being brought to life, Frosty immediately starts to kill everybody he comes across.
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-->'''Proto-Stan''': I told you not to put that ''FUCKING'' hat on Frosty's ''FUCKING'' head, now didn't I?!
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* {{Jerkass:}} Proto-Kyle refuses to take accountability for bringing Frosty to life, shows no remorse when the monster snowman kills his friends, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and even says "fuck" in front of Jesus.]]
-->'''Proto-Stan:''' Dude, it's ''Jesus''! Don't say "fuck" in front of ''Jesus''!
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* SpoofAesop: After Jesus saves the world, Proto-Kyle doesn't learn not to put the hat on Frosty, ''or'' that Jesus is a savior. He learns that Christmas is about presents. Nothing else in the short even builds up to this.this, [[NotSoAboveItAll but Proto-Stan ''agrees'' with his take.]]
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* TheyKilledKennyAgain: Kenny gets decapitated by Santa's blast, intended for Jesus.
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** Jesus and Santa's battle uses music from''VideoGame/MortalKombat3''.''VideoGame/MortalKombat3''.
** "[[Film/{{Highlander}} There can be only one!]]" (said by Santa moments before the smackdown)
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** "[[Film/{{Highlander}} There can be only one!]]" (said by Santa moments before the smackdown)
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* EveryoneHasStandards: Proto-Stan may be a little too foul-mouthed for his age, but he draws the line at saying the F-word in front of Baby Jesus, [[BrattyHalfPint unlike Kyle]].
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* PerenniallyOvershadowedBirthday: Alluded to when Stan talks to Jesus and expresses his pity for Jesus having his birthday on Christmas.
-->'''Jesus:''' Tomorrow is my birthday. Yet all is not right.
-->'''Stan:''' Your birthday is on Christmas? That sucks, dude.
-->'''Jesus:''' Tomorrow is my birthday. Yet all is not right.
-->'''Stan:''' Your birthday is on Christmas? That sucks, dude.
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* DeuxExMachina: A textbook example; Brian Boitano gets unintentionally summoned by the boys to put an end to the fight between Jesus and Santa.
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* DeuxExMachina: DeusExMachina: A textbook example; Brian Boitano gets unintentionally summoned by the boys to put an end to the fight between Jesus and Santa.
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* DeathOfAChild: Proto-Cartman becomes the first child victim of the franchise thanks to Frosty.
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* ShoutOut: The film's vanity production company is ''Avenging Conscience'', referencing the Creator/DWGriffith film ''The Avenging Conscience''.
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* ShoutOut: ShoutOut:
** The film's vanity production company is ''Avenging Conscience'', referencing the Creator/DWGriffith film ''The AvengingConscience''.Conscience''.
** ShoutOut: Jesus and Santa's battle uses music from ''VideoGame/MortalKombat3''.
** The film's vanity production company is ''Avenging Conscience'', referencing the Creator/DWGriffith film ''The Avenging
** ShoutOut: Jesus and Santa's battle uses music from ''VideoGame/MortalKombat3''.
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* DeathGlare: Jesus when Stan and Kyle start rooting for Santa, enough for the duo to nervously change their tune.
* DeuxExMachina: A textbook example; Brian Boitano gets unintentionally summoned by the boys to put an end to the fight between Jesus and Santa.
* DeuxExMachina: A textbook example; Brian Boitano gets unintentionally summoned by the boys to put an end to the fight between Jesus and Santa.
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** The boys when Jesus first appears before them. Especially Kyle who believes he's there to kill him for being jewish.
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* BigDamnHeroes: After Frosty claims two victims, Baby Jesus barges in and saves the day by killing him with his halo.
* CombatTentacles: Frosty uses these to kill his victims. One shot shows them to be even larger than his body when extended.
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* EarlyInstallmentCharacterDesignDifference: Cartman, Kenny, and Stan's character designs look the same as today (albeit with different colors), but Kyle's is completely indistinguishable; he's shown wearing a green jacket and a yellow cap, rather than his modern day orange jacket and green ushanka.
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** Cartman, Kenny, and Stan's character designs look the same as today (albeit with different colors), but Kyle's is completely indistinguishable; he's shown wearing a green jacket and a yellow cap, rather than his modern day orange jacket and greenushanka.ushanka.
** Jesus is also depicted with the body of a baby, instead of being a grown adult like in the latter short and the series.
** Cartman, Kenny, and Stan's character designs look the same as today (albeit with different colors), but Kyle's is completely indistinguishable; he's shown wearing a green jacket and a yellow cap, rather than his modern day orange jacket and green
** Jesus is also depicted with the body of a baby, instead of being a grown adult like in the latter short and the series.
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* OffWithHisHead: Baby Jesus offs Frosty by scalping him with his halo, removing his hat and breaking the curse.
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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: The boys accidentally unleash a murderous Frosty on the world by putting a magic hat on their snowman.
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* CaptainObvious: After "Santa" grows tentacles and a NightmareFace and kills Proto-Kenny:
-->'''Proto-Kyle:''' You know? I don't think that was the real Santa Claus.
-->'''Proto-Stan:''' Oh. No Shit, sherlock!
-->'''Proto-Kyle:''' You know? I don't think that was the real Santa Claus.
-->'''Proto-Stan:''' Oh. No Shit, sherlock!
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** Instead of TheSmartGuy, Kyle is portrayed as TheDitz of the group [[LethallyStupid who gets half of his team killed through his stupidity]], which is the type of attitude [[EnragedByIdiocy the current Kyle would be enraged by.]]
** While Stan has retained the OnlySaneMan trait that defines him in this short, he's also much more calm and even-tempered nowadays, while here Proto-Stan seems to have a HairTriggerTemper to the point where he has more in common with the current Kyle than the current Stan.
** While Stan has retained the OnlySaneMan trait that defines him in this short, he's also much more calm and even-tempered nowadays, while here Proto-Stan seems to have a HairTriggerTemper to the point where he has more in common with the current Kyle than the current Stan.
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* ForgottenFallenFriend: "Kenny" (Proto-Cartman) and Proto-Kenny both get killed by Frosty halfway through the episode, but Proto-Stan and Proto-Kyle carry on with their Christmas regardless.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: Proto-Stan is quite abrasive and foul-mouthed when talking to Proto-Kyle, but he's absolutely right when he says that he was an idiot for putting the magic hat on Frosty despite his warnings that it will turn him into a bloodthirsty monster.
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* TooDumbToLive: Proto-Kyle is a textbook example, as he puts the hat on the snowman's head right after Proto-Stan warns him that it will make him come to life and kill them all.
-->'''Proto-Kyle:''' Fuck him, let's do it anyway.
-->'''Proto-Kenny:''' Yeah.
-->'''Proto-Kyle:''' Fuck him, let's do it anyway.
-->'''Proto-Kenny:''' Yeah.
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** Stan mentions "his sister in Minnesota", implying that Shelley didn't live with him (though it also could have happened during a trip to Minnesota).
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** Stan mentions "his "(his) sister in Minnesota", implying that Shelley didn't live with him (though it also could have happened during a trip to Minnesota).
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