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* AdaptationDyeJob: In the original film, Timmy’s older sister Teresa has blue eyes, but here she has heterochromia; one eye is blue, and the other’s green (which is odd considering their father had ''brown'' eyes).
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* UnfortunateName: Dr. Valentine, who proves to be every bit as lame as his name might imply.
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* VillainSong: "If You Just Say Yes", sung by [=Evil!Martin=]. Doubles as a VillainRecruitmentSong, since he was trying to convince Timmy to join him.

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* VillainSong: "If You Just Say Yes", sung by [=Evil!Martin=].[[spoiler:[=Evil!Martin=]]]. Doubles as a VillainRecruitmentSong, since he was trying to convince Timmy to join him.
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* VillainSong: "If You Just Say Yes".

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* VillainSong: "If You Just Say Yes".Yes", sung by [=Evil!Martin=]. Doubles as a VillainRecruitmentSong, since he was trying to convince Timmy to join him.
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The film received mostly negative reviews, particularly compared to the first ''NIMH'', and most Creator/DonBluth fans like to [[FanonDiscontinuity quietly pretend it never happened.]]
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* BeMyValentine: Dr. Valentine, a NIMH Scientist who captures Jenny's parents and [[spoiler:expirements on Martin]].
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* ParentsInDistress: Jenny's parents get captured by NIMH and she goes on a quest, (along with Timmy) to save them.

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* Cain and Abel: Martin and Timmy, almost.

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* Cain and Abel: CainAndAbel: Martin and Timmy, almost.


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* SwordCane: [[spoiler: Martin]]'s cane has a blade hidden in it, and he uses it against Timmy during the climax.
* ThrowTheBookAtThem: How [[spoiler: Evil Martin]] is defeated.
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* BadassAdorable: Timmy and Jenny fit this trope since they're both cute-looking mice and have performed amazing feats.
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* Cain and Abel: Martin and Timmy, almost.

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* AgeProgressionSong: "I Will Show the World", as Timmy sings from age 10 to 13, and finally to 17.



* GoshDangItToHeck: Aunt Shrew ("Oh, to ''heck'' with him...").

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* GoshDangItToHeck: Aunt Auntie Shrew ("Oh, to ''heck'' with him...").



** Though his raising of Timmy is questionable like the rest of the rats, Mr Ages is far less acerbic and grumpy than he was in the first film.
** Though they were far from Jerkasses in the first place, the Brisby family and Miss Shrew seem to be on much softer terms with Jeremy by this point, compared to the first where they could just barely tolerate him.

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** Though his raising of Timmy is questionable like the rest of the rats, Mr Mr. Ages is far less acerbic and grumpy than he was in the first film.
** Though they were far from Jerkasses in the first place, the Brisby family and Miss Auntie Shrew seem to be on much softer terms with Jeremy by this point, compared to the first where they could just barely tolerate him.
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* AdultsAreUseless: Every adult in Thorn Valley appears to have TookALevelInJerkass inbetween the end of the first movie and the beginning of this one; for starters, they keep telling Timmy not to be so selfish, when they're the ones piling on the pressure and constantly comparing him to his father. Then, when somebody comes to them for help, they keep her prisoner instead. (Okay, they say no because they believe the mission could be a risk to Thorn Valley's location especially since scientists from NIMH are apparently searching for their lost experimental animals at the beginning of the film). It doesn't quite befit their actions elsewhere in the movie, however, since they entrust several other people (including ''[[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Jeremy]]'' of all people) with its location without holding them captive.)

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* AdultsAreUseless: Every adult in Thorn Valley appears to have TookALevelInJerkass inbetween [[TookALevelInJerkass taken a level in jerkass]] in between the end of the first movie and the beginning of this one; for one. For starters, they keep telling Timmy not to be so selfish, when they're the ones piling on the pressure and constantly comparing him to his father. Then, when somebody comes to them for help, they keep take her prisoner instead. (Okay, they say no because they believe the mission could be a risk to Thorn Valley's location especially since scientists from NIMH are apparently searching for their lost experimental animals at the beginning of the film). It doesn't quite befit their actions elsewhere in the movie, however, since they entrust several other people (including ''[[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Jeremy]]'' of all people) with its location without holding them captive.)
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* AdultsAreUseless: Every adult in Thorn Valley appears to have TookALevelInJerkass inbetween the end of the first movie and the beginning of this one; for starters, they keep telling Timmy not to be so selfish, when they're the ones piling on the pressure and constantly comparing him to his father. Then, when somebody comes to them for help, they keep her prisoner instead. (Okay, they say no because they believe the mission could be a risk to Thorn Valley's location (especially since scientists from NIMH are apparently searching for their lost experimental animals at the beginning of the film). It doesn't quite befit their actions elsewhere in the movie, however, since they entrust several other people (including ''[[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Jeremy]]'' of all people) with its location without holding them captive.)

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* AdultsAreUseless: Every adult in Thorn Valley appears to have TookALevelInJerkass inbetween the end of the first movie and the beginning of this one; for starters, they keep telling Timmy not to be so selfish, when they're the ones piling on the pressure and constantly comparing him to his father. Then, when somebody comes to them for help, they keep her prisoner instead. (Okay, they say no because they believe the mission could be a risk to Thorn Valley's location (especially especially since scientists from NIMH are apparently searching for their lost experimental animals at the beginning of the film). It doesn't quite befit their actions elsewhere in the movie, however, since they entrust several other people (including ''[[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Jeremy]]'' of all people) with its location without holding them captive.)
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* ArtEvolution: The sequel employs none of the harsh, dark imagery or highly intricate and realistic backgrounds that lent the original film its strong edge, and instead the the animation is bright and colourful (as well as noticeably cruder and lower budget) to supplant the much more kid-friendly tone of the sequel; this is made especially jarring after the opening prologue which consists of a montage of clips from the original film.

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* ArtEvolution: The sequel employs none of the harsh, dark imagery or highly intricate and realistic backgrounds that lent the original film its strong edge, and instead the the animation animation, now using digital ink and paint, is bright and colourful colorful (as well as noticeably cruder and lower budget) to supplant the much more kid-friendly tone of the sequel; this is made especially jarring after the opening prologue which consists of a montage of clips from the original film.
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: Timmy is a ''constant'' victim of this, owed in no small part to his recklessness.

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* DidntThinkThisThrough: Timmy is a ''constant'' victim of this, owed in no small part to his recklessness.[[LeeroyJenkins recklessness]].

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** In fact, with the exception of [[AscendedExtra Timmy]], nearly every character has a noticeably smaller role in the sequel.

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** In fact, with the exception of [[AscendedExtra Timmy]], nearly every character returning from the first film has a noticeably smaller role in the sequel.



* DudeWheresMyRespect: Mrs. Brisby. The rats worship her husband for helping them but seem to forget that she warned them to move to Thorn Valley to escape from NIMH in the first movie. She doesn't even get a statue. For that matter neither does Nicodemus, who they seem to almost worship now.

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Mrs. Brisby. The rats worship her husband for helping them but seem to forget that she warned them to move to Thorn Valley to escape from NIMH in the first movie. She doesn't even get a statue. For that matter neither does Nicodemus, who they seem to almost worship now.



* WidelySpacedJailBars: When [[spoiler:Evil Martin]] locksTimmy up, the barsare clearly wide enough for him to squeeze through.

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* WidelySpacedJailBars: When [[spoiler:Evil Martin]] locksTimmy locks Timmy up, the barsare bars are clearly wide enough for him to squeeze through.
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* WidelySpacedJailBars: When [[spoiler:Evil Martin]] locksTimmy up, the barsare clearly wide enough for him to squeeze through.

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* SuddenlyVoiced: Brutus, who was a silent, intimidating presence in the original. Now he's a bumbling oaf serving as a source of [[ComicRelief comic relief]].
* TookALevelInKindness: Though his raising of Timmy is questionable like the rest of the rats, Mr Ages is far less acerbic and grumpy than he was in the first film.

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* SuddenlyVoiced: SuddenlySpeaking: Brutus, who was a silent, intimidating presence in the original. Now he's a bumbling oaf serving as a source of [[ComicRelief comic relief]].
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Though his raising of Timmy is questionable like the rest of the rats, Mr Ages is far less acerbic and grumpy than he was in the first film.
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* AdultFear: The scene were Timmy reveals to Jenny that he had received a letter from his mother, telling him Martin had disappeared, and she had no idea what had happened to him. It becomes worse after TheReveal that [[spoiler:Martin was captured and experimented on by NIMH.]]
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* ElectroconvulsiveTherapyIsTorture: And it can also effectively brainwash people [[spoiler:and animals. Dr. Valentine does it to Martin, who returns the favor and uses electricity on everyone around like a kid who found his dad's gun.]]
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* ShoutOut: Jenny's parent's names are [[Film/HelenOfTroy Troy and Helen]] McBride.

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* ShoutOut: Jenny's parent's parents' names are [[Film/HelenOfTroy Troy and Helen]] McBride.[=McBride=].


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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Timmy, Good God....'''Timmy'''. For all he's built up to be, his recklessness causes considerable trouble for everyone before he makes up for it.
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** All of Thorn Valley can count for all their lavish praise of Timmy before he's done anything to earn it. It probably lent itself a lot to his aforementioned recklessness as he became impatient for the chance to prove himself.



** Martin is hit with this bigtime, feeling like he's living in his younger brother's shadow and that nobody recognizes his potential to be great as has been done for Timmy. It gets him angry enough to run away from home and right into NIMH's clutches, which proves a major problem for everyone further down the road.



** Jenny was just as responsible for saving Thorn Valley as the prophesised Timmy as well. She escaped NIMH alone, she went on a dangerous journey to Thorn Valley alone, and she was willing to go back and defeat the villains ''alone.'' She braved ''much'' greater dangers than Timmy, and later is, in fact, directly responsible for stopping the bad guy!

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** Jenny was just as responsible for saving Thorn Valley as the prophesised prophesied Timmy as well. She escaped NIMH alone, she went on a dangerous journey to Thorn Valley alone, and she was willing to go back and defeat the villains ''alone.'' She braved ''much'' greater dangers than Timmy, and later is, in fact, directly responsible for stopping the bad guy!



* EvilIsHammy: Arguably [[HamAndCheese one of the better parts]] is [[spoiler: Martin's]] dramatically hammy performance in the later portion of the film performed by Eric Idle, who seems to have loads of fun delivering every last line. He doesn't just chew the scenery as [[spoiler: Martin]] - he gobbles it up whole, shats it back out, and then gobbles it up again, rinse and repeat twice more. ("You'll be happy. Oh, so happy, if '''you''' '''''just''''' ''''' SAY YYYYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!'''''")

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* EvilIsHammy: Arguably [[HamAndCheese one of the better parts]] is [[spoiler: Martin's]] dramatically hammy performance in the later portion of the film performed by Eric Idle, who seems to have loads of fun delivering every last line. He doesn't just chew the scenery as [[spoiler: Martin]] - he gobbles it up whole, shats shits it back out, and then gobbles it up again, rinse and repeat twice more. ("You'll be happy. Oh, so happy, if '''you''' '''''just''''' ''''' SAY YYYYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!'''''")


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* InformedAbility: Timmy in a nutshell, as it has been prophesied that he'd rise up to be a great savior like his father before him to the rats of NIMH, and is thus groomed to follow in his footsteps while also being praised before such can occur. Absolutely no effort is made to explain why Martin lacks the leadership abilities that Timmy is predicted to gain, and one can argue it was all this lavish praise upon Timmy that led to him becoming arrogant in his older years and Martin to get himself captured when he ran away out of bitterness.
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* RoleReprisal: Dom Deluise and Arthur Malet reprise their roles as Jeremy the Crow and Mr. Ages respectively.

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* {{Disneyfication}}: Unlike the original, ''Rescue'' plays this straight, complete with musical numbers and numerous [[CanonForeigner comic relief extras]].


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* HeroicBSOD: Timmy when he and the others get captured by Dr. Valentine ([[spoiler: revealed to be Martin]]) and feels like he let everyone down including his late father. Luckily, Cecil arrives to cheer him up with a RousingSpeech.
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* ShoutOut: Jenny's parent's names are Troy and Helen McBride.

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** Timmy, who's constant arrogance and tendency to act before he thinks often puts himself and worse yet his friends in danger all throughout the movie.

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** Timmy, who's whose constant arrogance and tendency to act before he thinks often puts himself and worse yet his friends in danger all throughout the movie.
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What The Hell Hero is for in-universe calling out.


* AdultsAreUseless: Every adult in Thorn Valley appears to have TookALevelInJerkass inbetween the end of the first movie and the beginning of this one; for starters, they keep telling Timmy not to be so selfish, when they're the ones piling on the pressure and constantly comparing him to his father. Then, when somebody comes to them for help, [[WhatTheHellHero they say no for no real reason and keep her prisoner]]. (Okay, they say no because they believe the mission could be a risk to Thorn Valley's location (especially since scientists from NIMH are apparently searching for their lost experimental animals at the beginning of the film). It doesn't quite befit their actions elsewhere in the movie, however, since they entrust several other people (including ''[[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Jeremy]]'' of all people) with its location without holding them captive.)

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* AdultsAreUseless: Every adult in Thorn Valley appears to have TookALevelInJerkass inbetween the end of the first movie and the beginning of this one; for starters, they keep telling Timmy not to be so selfish, when they're the ones piling on the pressure and constantly comparing him to his father. Then, when somebody comes to them for help, [[WhatTheHellHero they say no for no real reason and keep her prisoner]].prisoner instead. (Okay, they say no because they believe the mission could be a risk to Thorn Valley's location (especially since scientists from NIMH are apparently searching for their lost experimental animals at the beginning of the film). It doesn't quite befit their actions elsewhere in the movie, however, since they entrust several other people (including ''[[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Jeremy]]'' of all people) with its location without holding them captive.)

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