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** Really, the poster just makes the movie sound like some magical fantasy movie for the whole family instead of the dark and brutal PG-rated sci-fi epic it really is... which is downright ''strange'' given how fantasy movies at the time did pretty badly at the box-office compared to sci-fi movies so it makes this marketing decision all the weirder.
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* CrystalDragonJesus: The Kha-Khan, of whom Orin is the latest incarnation. In this case, though, he's as much Moses (leading his people out of bondage) as Jesus. [[spoiler:Orin is formally invited to [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence join his forbearers]] in the end, but he declines, at least for right now.]]
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* CrystalDragonJesus: The Kha-Khan, of whom Orin is the latest incarnation. In this case, though, he's as much Moses (leading his people out of bondage) as Jesus. [[spoiler:Orin is formally invited to [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence join his forbearers]] in the end, but he declines, at least for right now.]]
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* CoversAlwaysLie: [[http://www.impawards.com/1985/posters/starchaser_the_legend_of_orin_xxlg.jpg One poster for the movie]] features Orin, Aviana and Kallie riding on flying horses. No such thing ''ever'' happens in the movie nor do horses ''ever'' appear so why they’re even on the poster is a complete mystery.
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* CoversAlwaysLie: [[http://www.impawards.com/1985/posters/starchaser_the_legend_of_orin_xxlg.jpg One poster for the movie]] features Orin, Aviana and Kallie riding on flying horses. No such thing ''ever'' happens in the movie nor do horses ''ever'' appear appear[[note]]technically a kind of alien “horse” does show up briefly, ridden by Aviana, but it doesn’t look anything like what’s on the poster, and definitely never flies[[/note]] so why they’re even on the poster is a complete mystery.
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* IAmTheNoun: When Zygon's true nature is revealed, he proudly boasts that he isn't just ''a'' robot: he is ''the'' robot.
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* VenturousSmuggler: Dagg is a smuggler who makes his money by stealing shipments of crystals from Zygon's mines and selling them to criminals.
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* CoversAlwaysLie: [[http://www.impawards.com/1985/posters/starchaser_the_legend_of_orin_xxlg.jpg One poster for the movie]] features Orin, Aviana and Kallie riding on flying horses. No such thing ''ever'' happens in the movie nor do horses ''ever'' appear so why they’re even on the poster is a complete mystery.
** The poster also boasts that the movie is “A magical movie experience in the tradition of ''[[WesternAnimation/SnowWhiteandtheSevenDwarfs Snow White]]'' and ''[[Film/TheDarkCrystal Dark Crystal]]''” when the movie couldn’t be any more different from those movies. They could’ve said that it was in the tradition of ''[[Franchise/StarWars Star Wa-]]'' oh wait...
** The poster also boasts that the movie is “A magical movie experience in the tradition of ''[[WesternAnimation/SnowWhiteandtheSevenDwarfs Snow White]]'' and ''[[Film/TheDarkCrystal Dark Crystal]]''” when the movie couldn’t be any more different from those movies. They could’ve said that it was in the tradition of ''[[Franchise/StarWars Star Wa-]]'' oh wait...
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* SurroundedByIdiots: At one point, after his minions have once again failed to catch Orin, Zygon lambasts their intelligence, rhetorically asking if he needs to personally reprogram every robot.
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* VillainWithGoodPublicity: When Aviana and Orin arrive at the mines again, she greets Zygon as the facility's administrator when he meets them at the hangar, and seems to be on the fence concerning Orin's claims about the miners. [[spoiler:It's not until Orin slashes Zygon's face with the Sword and reveals he's a robot that she realizes Orin was telling the truth.]]
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* VillainWithGoodPublicity: When Aviana and Orin arrive at the mines again, she greets Zygon as the facility's administrator when he meets them at the hangar, and seems to be on the fence concerning Orin's claims about the miners.slave mines. [[spoiler:It's not until Orin slashes Zygon's face with the Sword and reveals he's a robot that she realizes Orin was telling the truth.]]
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* DeathSeeker: Hopps, Elan's grandfather. In the movie's opening, Elan tries to persuade him to dig more slowly, as he's too old to keep up such a pace. Hopps tiredly retorts that he's been digging for 70 years, and slowing down now will only prolong his suffering.
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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:Elan's elderly father attacks the minemasters to keep them from learning about the hilt.]]
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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:Elan's elderly father attacks the minemasters Mine-Masters to keep them from learning about the hilt.]]
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* IndyPloy: Lampshaded when Aviana and [[RobotBuddy Mizzo]] are visiting Zygon, and she gains access to his pyramid only by having Mizzo blast an ObstructiveBureaucrat robot.
--> '''Mizzo:''' "I hope you know what you're doing."
--> '''Aviana:''' "So do I."
--> '''Mizzo:''' "I hope you know what you're doing."
--> '''Aviana:''' "So do I."
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* RefusalOfTheCall: Played with. Orin escapes the Mine World with all the determination befitting a rebellious slave in a sci-fi flick. Shortly afterwards, though, when he is captured by the man-droids, Orin can briefly be heard ''apologizing'' for escaping and promising to go back to the mines if they will spare his life. [[CantRefuseTheCallAnymore By then, of course, it is far too late.]]
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* RefusalOfTheCall: Played with. Orin escapes the Mine World Mine-World with all the determination befitting a rebellious slave in a sci-fi flick. Shortly afterwards, though, when he is captured by the man-droids, Orin can briefly be heard ''apologizing'' for escaping and promising to go back to the mines if they will spare his life. [[CantRefuseTheCallAnymore By then, of course, it is far too late.]]
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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: The slaves push all of the minemasters into the lava when rebelling at the end. Note that this happens ''after'' [[spoiler:Zygon]] has been killed, so there was arguably no need to do this to them. However, considering the untold centuries of torment these people endured, their actions are understandable if not justifiable.
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** The slaves push all of the minemasters into the lava when rebelling at the end.Note Not that this happens ''after'' [[spoiler:Zygon]] has been killed, so there was arguably no need to do this to them. However, considering the untold centuries anyone can blame them, after literal millennia of torment these people endured, their actions are understandable if not justifiable.brutal enslavement.
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* RobotWar: Zygon's ultimate goal is the subjugation of all organic life, and he plans to win.
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* RobotWar: Zygon's ultimate goal is the subjugation of all organic life, and but unlike most examples of this trope, he plans hopes to win.defeat humanity in one quick, unexpected strike.
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* SceneryPorn: After escaping Mine World, Orin gets to see some very beautiful environments... until he meets the man-droids.
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* SceneryPorn: After escaping Mine World, Mine-World, Orin gets to see some very beautiful environments... until he meets the man-droids.
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* ThrownOutTheAirlock: Orin accidentally opens a hangar's airlock, sucking out all the robots.
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* TheWorldIsJustAwesome: When Orin escapes the Mine World, his first sight of the "magnificent universe" above brings tears to his eyes.
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* TheWorldIsJustAwesome: When Orin escapes the Mine World, Mine-World, his first sight of the "magnificent universe" above brings tears to his eyes.
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* CrystalDragonJesus: The Kha-Khan. [[spoiler:Orin is invited to join them in the end, but he declines, at least for right now.]]
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* CrystalDragonJesus: The Kha-Khan. Kha-Khan, of whom Orin is the latest incarnation. In this case, though, he's as much Moses (leading his people out of bondage) as Jesus. [[spoiler:Orin is formally invited to [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence join them his forbearers]] in the end, but he declines, at least for right now.]]
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* LaserBlade: The usually-invisible blade to Orin's hilt. [[spoiler:Eventually it turns out the hilt was just a placebo and the power to create the blade...ItWasWithYouAllAlong.]]
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* LaserBlade: The usually-invisible blade to Orin's hilt.Hilt. [[spoiler:Eventually it turns out the hilt was just a placebo and the power to create the blade...ItWasWithYouAllAlong.]]
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* ALongTimeAgoInAGalaxyFarFarAway: It's a fairly standard example, copying ''Star Wars'' with humans and almost no mention of Earth.
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* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: The Hilt. For most of the movie, it's merely an {{Expy}} LaserBlade. [[spoiler: Then at the end, Orin frees his people from the Mine-World by ''hurling the Hilt at the ceiling'', which somehow causes a colossal fissure to open.]]
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* TwoDVisualsThreeDEffects: One of the earliest animation projects to blend traditional animation with computer-rendered models for the vehicles and some other effects.
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* DeathByPragmatism: Toward the end, one of Zygon's officers realizes that things are going badly and tries to run away. This puts him right into the path of a crashing spaceship.
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* ArmCannon: Zygon's least humanoid robots have laser guns in place of hands.
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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: The desert dwellers that bought crystals from Dagg hid a TimeBomb in the chest containing his payment. When the heroes discover this, they fly back to the desert camp and return the chest to its previous owners, who barely have time to share a look of dismay before they get obliterated by their own bomb.
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* EternalHero: Orin is the latest incarnation of the Kha-Khan, a messianic figure with mystical powers who has appeared throughout galactic history to save humanity from evil.
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* SapientShip: Arthur, the AI that controls the ''Starchaser'', is clearly sapient and often bickers with Dagg.
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''Starchaser: The Legend of Orin'' is a 1985 animated SpaceOpera film. The story follows Orin, an escaped slave who must free his people from the DarkLord after being able to wield a sword that OnlyTheChosenMayWield. Helping him along the way are a cigar-chewing smuggler, his neurotic RobotBuddy, a sassy fembot, a governer's daughter and a FairyCompanion.
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''Starchaser: The Legend of Orin'' is a 1985 animated SpaceOpera film. The story follows Orin, an escaped slave who must free his people from the DarkLord after being able to wield a sword that OnlyTheChosenMayWield. Helping him along the way are a cigar-chewing smuggler, his neurotic RobotBuddy, a sassy fembot, a governer's daughter and something of a FairyCompanion.
* HealingHands: At the end, [[spoiler:Orin, who has proven himself to be the [[CrystalDragonJesus Kha-Khan]], cures Kallie's blindness with a touch.]]
* InnocentlyInsensitive: Early on, Orin asks Dagg why he risks his life stealing crystals, and the latter replies "Because, my little [[AffectionateNickname Water Snake]], the tax collectors of this galaxy turn an honest worker into a slave". Orin doesn't call him on it, but that's a rather insensitive metaphor to use when you're talking to a guy who was ''literally'' a slave for almost his whole life.
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** Dagg does this to Orin when they meet.
** A minemaster does this to Orin's little brother after the cave-in near the beginning. [[BigBrotherInstinct Orin attacks the robot and almost gets killed in retaliation]] before everyone is interrupted by the summoning to Zygon's mass.
** A minemaster does this to Orin's little brother after the cave-in near the beginning. [[BigBrotherInstinct Orin attacks the robot and almost gets killed in retaliation]] before everyone is interrupted by the summoning to Zygon's mass.
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** Dagg does this to Orin when they meet.
meet. In fairness to Dagg, Orin had just tripped, and Dagg had every reason to want to keep him pinned until he could figure out what this wild-eyed lone human is doing in a Mandroid-infested swamp.
** A minemaster does this to Kallie, Orin's littlebrother brother, after the cave-in near the beginning. [[BigBrotherInstinct Orin attacks the robot and almost gets killed in retaliation]] before everyone is interrupted by the summoning to Zygon's mass.
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* AMoltenDateWithDeath: Happens to both halves of Zygon at the end, as well as all of the Minemasters.
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* GodGuise: Zygon masquerades as a fearsome deity to further cow his slaves into obedience.
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Misused trope. It is supposed to be about fictional racial tensions. This misuse had been here since 2012, but a word was changed in 2021.
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* FantasticRacism: This film has at least Arab and Roma stereotypes.
** Dagg's mocking response to the desert people (the aforementioned Arab stereotype) he's selling the stolen crystals to: "You have ze crrrystal?" - "You have ze moneh?"
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%% * GettingCrapPastThe Radar: Due to overwhelming and persistent misuse, GCPTR is on-page examples only until 01 June 2021. If you are reading this in the future, please check the trope page to make sure your example fits the current definition.
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* LaserBlade: The usually-invisible blade to Orin's hilt. [[spoiler: Eventually it turns out the hilt was just a placebo and the power to create the blade...ItWasWithYouAllAlong.]]
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* LaserBlade: The usually-invisible blade to Orin's hilt. [[spoiler: Eventually [[spoiler:Eventually it turns out the hilt was just a placebo and the power to create the blade...ItWasWithYouAllAlong.]]
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** Dagg's mocking response to the desert people (the aforementioned Arab stereotype) he's selling the stolen crystals too: "You have ze crrrystal?" - "You have ze moneh?"
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* ATasteOfTheLash / WhipItGood: The minemasters ''really'' love using their laser whips against underperforming slaves.
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** Elan and most of the female slaves on Trinia.
** Later Orin himself.
** Elan and most of the female slaves on Trinia.
** Later Orin himself.
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* AlwaysChaoticEvil: The man-droids are a bunch of bickering, barely organized scavengers. This works against them.
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* AlwaysChaoticEvil: The man-droids are a bunch of bickering, barely organized scavengers. This works against them.
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* LiveActionAdaptation: Rilean Pictures announced a live-action remake in 2012, to be produced by Jonathan Saba and Juan Iglesias.
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There are no similarities between Silica and R2-D2 apart from her being a robot and that another robot matches up to C 3 PO. She's more like a robot Princess Leia.
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** [[FemBot Silica]] is R2-D2.
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** [[BigBad Zygon]] is a mixture of [[DarthVaderClone Darth Vader]] and [[BigBad Emperor Palpatine]].
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* FamilyUnfriendlyDeath: This film is very dark and violent, even by 80’s cartoon standards. An old man is killed by burn damage from a laser whip, a slave is crushed by a cave in, and a young woman is strangled partly on screen, the man-droids (who are already frightening before things get violent) end up being killed pretty graphically, desert men being nuked, and so on.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyDeath: This film is very dark and violent, even especially by 80’s cartoon standards. An old man is killed by burn damage from a laser whip, a slave is crushed by a cave in, and a young woman is strangled partly on screen, the man-droids (who are already frightening before things get violent) end up being killed pretty graphically, desert men being nuked, and so on.
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* CrystalDragonJesus: The Kha-Khan. [[spoiler:Orin is invited to join them in the end.]]
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* LaserBlade: The usually-invisible blade to Orin's hilt. [[spoiler: Eventually it turns out the hilt was just a placebo and the power to create the blade...ItWasWithYouAllAlong.]]
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* RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver: Zygon and his minions' outfits and insignias are mainly those colors.
