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* OneDialogueTwoConversations: Bail speaks to both an out-of-sight Ahsoka and two Clone Troopers questioning him by making friendly conversation about how teamwork and how they can always count on him. The Clones just think he's being weird, possibly drunk, but Ahsoka gets the real message that she can always count on Bail to help her out if she decides to fight the Empire.



* OneDialogueTwoConversations: Bail speaks to both an out-of-sight Ahsoka and two Clone Troopers questioning him by making friendly conversation about how teamwork and how they can always count on him. The Clones just think he's being weird, possibly drunk, but Ahsoka gets the real message that she can always count on Bail to help her out if she decides to fight the Empire.
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** In "The Sith Lord", which overlaps with the events of ''The Phantom Menace'', most of the Jedi dismiss Qui-gon Jinn's encounter with a Sith Lord on Tatooine. Even Yaddle, who is more sympathetic to Qui-gon and Dooku, would prefer to wait for more information before acting on Qui-gon's warning.

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** In "The Sith Lord", which overlaps with the events of ''The Phantom Menace'', most of the Jedi dismiss Qui-gon Qui-Gon Jinn's encounter with a Sith Lord on Tatooine. Even Yaddle, who is more sympathetic to Qui-gon Qui-Gon and Dooku, would prefer to wait for more information before acting on Qui-gon's Qui-Gon's warning.
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* MoralityChain: it's subtle, but Qui-Gon fulfils this role for [[WellIntentionedExtremist Dooku]]. He's the one who stops Dooku from killing [[spoiler:Senator Dagonet]], and once he's no longer Dooku's apprentice is when Dooku begins getting ensnared in Palpatine's web. After Qui-Gon's death, Dooku has little or no compunctions about murdering [[spoiler:Yaddle]] in cold blood.
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* CanonForeigner: In the first episode, Pav-ti hunts some kybuck, which are animals from the ''Legends'' continuity, particularly ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars'' where one acted as Yoda’s personal steed.

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* CanonForeigner: In the first episode, Pav-ti hunts some kybuck, which are animals from the ''Legends'' continuity, particularly ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars'' where one acted as Yoda’s personal steed.

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* SuperPersistentPredator: The sabertooth cat-like predator in Episode 1 only seems to want to eat Pav-ti and Ahsoka, despite the freshly killed and much larger kybuck right there for the taking.



* SuperPersistentPredator: The sabertooth cat-like predator in Episode 1 only seems to want to eat Pav-ti and Ahsoka, despite the freshly killed and much larger kybuck right there for the taking.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: Yaddle's role in "The Sith Lord" seems very Yoda-like. Aside from being a member of Yoda's species, she serves as a mentor to Dooku (Yoda was Dooku's master), friendly with Qui-Gon while also agreeing with Yoda's stance that the Sith may be back, but not to jump to conclusions until more info is obtained. Her lightsaber blade is even green like Yoda's even though it was orange in ''Legends''. This may have been intentional (see ActorExistenceLimbo on the Trivia tab.)

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* CorruptPolitician: Both of the Republic senators seen are scumbags of the highest order, symbolizing the Republic's larger decay. Senator Dagonet is a selfish, cruel man who lets his people starve and suffer in the name of his political ambitions, only to crackdown with brutal force when they retaliate by kidnapping his son (who is so shocked by how his father's subjects are faring that he ''agrees with and supports his kidnappers''). Senator Larik is a greedy coward who tries to sell off and exploit Raxus and its people for his own gain, which eventually provokes his PraetorianGuard into trying to stage a coup.

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* CorruptPolitician: Both of the Republic senators seen are scumbags of the highest order, symbolizing the Republic's larger decay. decay;
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Senator Dagonet is a selfish, cruel man who lets his people starve and suffer in the name of his political ambitions, only to crackdown with brutal force when they retaliate by kidnapping his son (who is so shocked by how his father's subjects are faring that he ''agrees with and supports his kidnappers''). kidnappers'').
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Senator Larik is a greedy coward who tries to sell off and exploit Raxus and its people for his own gain, which eventually provokes his PraetorianGuard into trying to stage a coup.coup. Then Dooku and Windu find out he [[spoiler:was the one who led Jedi Master Katri into an ambush by said guards, so they could kill her before she exposed their plot to use Larik as a PuppetKing.]]



** Even after his fall from grace, Dooku clearly loves Qui-Gon as a son, and is heartbroken and filled with rage when he dies dueling Maul on Naboo. At the same time, it's darkly subverted with Palpatine, who tries to act as if he's equally affected by Maul's own apparent death ("you lost an apprentice and so did I!") to get sympathy from Dooku, but clearly doesn't care that much.

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** Even after his fall from grace, Dooku clearly loves Qui-Gon as a son, and is heartbroken and filled with rage when he dies dueling duelling Maul on Naboo. At the same time, it's darkly subverted with Palpatine, who tries to act as if he's equally affected by Maul's own apparent death ("you lost an apprentice and so did I!") to get sympathy from Dooku, but clearly doesn't care that much.


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* HeadInTheSandManagement: The Jedi Council, as per their characterization in the Prequels;
** In "Choices", they have no interest in investigating the suspicious death of one of their own members, Master Katri on Raxus, simply ordering Masters Dooku and Windu to retrieve her body and bring it back to Coruscant. They even punish Dooku for conducting an unauthorized investigation by denying him a seat on the Council.
** In "The Sith Lord", which overlaps with the events of ''The Phantom Menace'', most of the Jedi dismiss Qui-gon Jinn's encounter with a Sith Lord on Tatooine. Even Yaddle, who is more sympathetic to Qui-gon and Dooku, would prefer to wait for more information before acting on Qui-gon's warning.
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''Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi'' is a Creator/DisneyPlus animated anthology series set in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' universe, and serves as a prequel/interquel/sequel to ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', with much of the cast and crew returning from that series. Set in intervening periods before, during, and after the Clone Wars, the show focuses on Ahsoka Tano (Creator/AshleyEckstein), Count Dooku (Creator/CoreyBurton), and Qui-Gon Jinn (Creator/LiamNeeson and his son Micheál Richardson) at various points in their lives, showing how they came to be the characters the audiences first meet them as. In addition, Anakin Skywalker (Creator/MattLanter), Mace Windu (Creator/TerrenceCCarson), Yoda, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Bail Organa, Tera Sinube, Yaddle, Ponda Baba, and the Clone Army put in an appearance. Creator/JaninaGavankar, who played Iden Verso in ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontII2017'', appears in the series as Pav-ti, Ahsoka's mother.

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''Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi'' is a Creator/DisneyPlus animated anthology series set in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' universe, and serves as a prequel/interquel/sequel to ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', with much of the cast and crew returning from that series. Set in intervening periods before, during, and after the Clone Wars, the show focuses on Ahsoka Tano (Creator/AshleyEckstein), Count Dooku (Creator/CoreyBurton), and Qui-Gon Jinn (Creator/LiamNeeson and his son Micheál Richardson) at various points in their lives, showing how they came to be the characters the audiences first meet them as. In addition, Anakin Skywalker (Creator/MattLanter), Mace Windu (Creator/TerrenceCCarson), Yoda, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Bail Organa, Tera Sinube, Yaddle, Ponda Baba, and the Clone Army put in an appearance. Creator/JaninaGavankar, who played Iden Verso Versio in ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontII2017'', appears in the series as Pav-ti, Ahsoka's mother.
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** Also in the third episode, Dooku said to Senator Larik about his fellow Jedi Master's death that it's rare for a Jedi to succumb to a surprise attack unless it comes from someone they trusted, foreshadowing how the majority of the Jedi will be slaughtered by the clone troopers that they trusted when Palpatine activated Order 66 during the final days of the Clone Wars.
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Not to be confused with ''ComicBook/TalesOfTheJedi'', another series from the ''Legends'' continuity.

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Not to be confused with ''ComicBook/TalesOfTheJedi'', another series from the ''Legends'' continuity.
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* SuperPersistentPredator: The BigCat-like predator in Episode 1 only seems to want to eat Pav-ti and Ahsoka, despite the freshly killed and much larger kybuck right there for the taking.

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* SuperPersistentPredator: The BigCat-like sabertooth cat-like predator in Episode 1 only seems to want to eat Pav-ti and Ahsoka, despite the freshly killed and much larger kybuck right there for the taking.
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''Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi'' is a Creator/DisneyPlus animated anthology series set in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' universe, and serves as a prequel/interquel/sequel to ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', with much of the cast and crew returning from that series. Set in intervening periods before, during, and after the Clone Wars, the show focuses on Ahsoka Tano (Creator/AshleyEckstein), Count Dooku (Creator/CoreyBurton) and Qui-Gon Jinn (Creator/LiamNeeson and his son Micheál Richardson) at various points in their lives, showing how they came to be the characters the audiences first meet them as. In addition, Anakin Skywalker (Creator/MattLanter), Mace Windu (Creator/TerrenceCCarson), Yoda, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Bail Organa, Tera Sinube, Yaddle, Ponda Baba, and the Clone Army put in an appearance. Creator/JaninaGavankar, who played Iden Verso in ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontII2017'', appears in the series as Pav-ti, Ahsoka's mother.

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''Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi'' is a Creator/DisneyPlus animated anthology series set in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' universe, and serves as a prequel/interquel/sequel to ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', with much of the cast and crew returning from that series. Set in intervening periods before, during, and after the Clone Wars, the show focuses on Ahsoka Tano (Creator/AshleyEckstein), Count Dooku (Creator/CoreyBurton) (Creator/CoreyBurton), and Qui-Gon Jinn (Creator/LiamNeeson and his son Micheál Richardson) at various points in their lives, showing how they came to be the characters the audiences first meet them as. In addition, Anakin Skywalker (Creator/MattLanter), Mace Windu (Creator/TerrenceCCarson), Yoda, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Bail Organa, Tera Sinube, Yaddle, Ponda Baba, and the Clone Army put in an appearance. Creator/JaninaGavankar, who played Iden Verso in ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontII2017'', appears in the series as Pav-ti, Ahsoka's mother.



* AmbiguousInnocence: Mace Windu reports Dooku's CowboyCop methods on Raxus to the Council, which leads to Dooku being passed over for a seat on the Council (which he had hoped to get into order to enact reforms) that goes to Windu instead. Dooku clearly suspects that Windu's actions were a politically motivated power-grab, while Windu insists he was just following protocol and was just as surprised as anyone when he was offered the seat. It's not clear which is true, as to Mace’s credit he has always been duty-bound, but Dooku's justifiable suspicion worsens his disillusionment with the Order.
* ArtEvolution: The series does have the same art style as ''The Clone Wars'', but advances in technology have given it a much more realistic look in terms of lighting and presentation. There's also some subtle tweaks to the character models; look closely and Obi-Wan, though wearing his Clone armor over his robes, has his mullet from ''Film/AttackOfTheClones''.
* AscendedExtra: Big time for Yaddle. She goes from being a background character in ''The Phantom Menace'' before [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome suddenly disappearing afterwards and never brought up again]] to becoming a big part of Count Dooku's backstory.
* BackForTheDead: "The Sith Lord" marks [[spoiler:Yaddle's first canon appearance since ''The Phantom Menace''. She is killed by Dooku at the end, explaining why she never appeared again.]]
* BenevolentConspiracy: Dooku ''thinks'' that Palpatine's big conspiracy is this, bending the rules and manipulating the system to restore the Republic to it's former glory. Naturally, it's actually just about [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans giving the power-hungry Palpatine's control of the galaxy]], but Palpatine is more then happy to play into and encourage Dooku's misguided belief that everything they're doing is for the greater good.
* BlackShirt: A young man on the farm Ahsoka retires to is an avid supporter of the Empire, believing the propaganda that Palpatine has brought peace and order to the galaxy by ending the war and that the Jedi were traitors. He learns his lesson the hard way when he learns of Ahsoka being a Jedi, calls the Inquisitorius to report her, and an Inquisitor promptly shows up and burns his village down while killing most of his friends and coworkers in search of Ahsoka.

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* AmbiguousInnocence: Mace Windu reports Dooku's CowboyCop methods on Raxus to the Council, which leads to Dooku being passed over for a seat on the Council (which he had hoped to get into order to enact reforms) that goes to Windu instead. Dooku clearly suspects that Windu's actions were a politically motivated power-grab, power grab, while Windu insists he was just following protocol and was just as surprised as anyone when he was offered the seat. It's not clear which is true, as to Mace’s Mace's credit he has always been duty-bound, but Dooku's justifiable suspicion worsens his disillusionment with the Order.
* ArtEvolution: The series does have the same art style as ''The Clone Wars'', but advances in technology have given it a much more realistic look in terms of lighting and presentation. There's There are also some subtle tweaks to the character models; look closely and Obi-Wan, though wearing his Clone armor over his robes, has his mullet from ''Film/AttackOfTheClones''.
* AscendedExtra: Big time for Yaddle. She goes from being a background character in ''The Phantom Menace'' before [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome suddenly disappearing afterwards afterward and never brought up again]] to becoming a big part of Count Dooku's backstory.
* BackForTheDead: "The Sith Lord" marks [[spoiler:Yaddle's first canon appearance since ''The Phantom Menace''. She is killed by Dooku at the end, explaining why she never appeared again.]]
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* BenevolentConspiracy: Dooku ''thinks'' that Palpatine's big conspiracy is this, bending the rules and manipulating the system to restore the Republic to it's its former glory. Naturally, it's actually just about [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans giving the power-hungry Palpatine's Palpatine control of the galaxy]], but Palpatine is more then than happy to play into and encourage Dooku's misguided belief that everything they're doing is for the greater good.
* BlackShirt: A young man on the farm Ahsoka retires to is an avid supporter of the Empire, believing the propaganda that Palpatine has brought peace and order to the galaxy by ending the war and that the Jedi were traitors. He learns his lesson the hard way when he learns of Ahsoka being a Jedi, calls the Inquisitorius Inquisitors to report her, and an Inquisitor promptly shows up and burns his village down while killing most of his friends and coworkers in search of Ahsoka.



* CorruptPolitician: Both of the Republic senators seen are scumbags of the highest order, symbolizing the Republic's larger decay. Senator Dagonet is a selfish, cruel man who lets his people starve and suffer in the name of his political ambitions, only to crackdown with brutal force when they retaliate by kidnapping his son (who is so shocked by how his father's subjects are faring that he ''agrees with and supports his kidnappers''). Senator Larik is a greedy coward who tries to sell off and exploit Raxus and it's people for his own gain, which eventually provokes his PraetorianGuard into trying to stage a coup.
* CurbStompBattle: The Inquisitor who hunts down Ahsoka in the final episode underestimates just how powerful and skilled she is, assuming her to be just another Padawan rather than apprentice to one of the strongest Jedi Knights by the end of the war. He pays the price for it when Ahsoka effortlessly evades, disarms, and beheads him despite not even having a lightsaber on her.

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* CorruptPolitician: Both of the Republic senators seen are scumbags of the highest order, symbolizing the Republic's larger decay. Senator Dagonet is a selfish, cruel man who lets his people starve and suffer in the name of his political ambitions, only to crackdown with brutal force when they retaliate by kidnapping his son (who is so shocked by how his father's subjects are faring that he ''agrees with and supports his kidnappers''). Senator Larik is a greedy coward who tries to sell off and exploit Raxus and it's its people for his own gain, which eventually provokes his PraetorianGuard into trying to stage a coup.
* CurbStompBattle: The Inquisitor who hunts down Ahsoka in the final episode underestimates just how powerful and skilled she is, assuming her to be just another Padawan rather than an apprentice to one of the strongest Jedi Knights by the end of the war. He pays the price for it when Ahsoka effortlessly evades, disarms, and beheads him despite not even having a lightsaber on her.



** Even after his fall from grace, Dooku clearly loves Qui-Gon as a son, and is heartbroken and filled with rage when he dies dueling Maul on Naboo. At the same time, it's darkly subverted with Palpatine, who tries to act as if he's equally affected by Maul's own apparent death ("you lost an apprentice and so did I!") to get sympathy from Dooku, but clearly doesn't actually care that much.

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** Even after his fall from grace, Dooku clearly loves Qui-Gon as a son, and is heartbroken and filled with rage when he dies dueling Maul on Naboo. At the same time, it's darkly subverted with Palpatine, who tries to act as if he's equally affected by Maul's own apparent death ("you lost an apprentice and so did I!") to get sympathy from Dooku, but clearly doesn't actually care that much.



* FluffyTamer: Ahsoka's first use of the Force is calming an angry and hungry wildcat that stole her for food while her mother was hunting, even compelling it to carry her back home. This confirms to her village that she is Force sensitive.

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* FluffyTamer: Ahsoka's first use of the Force is calming an angry and hungry wildcat that stole her for food while her mother was hunting, even compelling it to carry her back home. This confirms to her village that she is Force sensitive.Force-sensitive.



* ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy: Lampshaded and discussed in regards to the Separatist Battle Droids, which are mostly lousy shots due to their simplistic programming that mostly amounts to "hold gun, shoot gun" and make up for it through [[WeHaveReserves numbers]]. Ahsoka complains about Anakin's test involving clone troopers shooting at her for this reason, pointing out that her clone allies are better shots then the droids she'll actually be fighting. Anakin agrees and says it's the point; if she can learn to dodge and deflect clone blasterfire, the less dangerous droid blasterfire will be even easier to deal with, and she'll also have valuable experience with fighting living creatures that are inherently less predictable then droids with weak AI. Sure enough, the training pays off during Order 66.
* InherentInTheSystem: Dooku and Qui-Gon initially see the growing corruption in the Republic and Jedi Council as a minor problem, something that is rare and can be easily dealt with. Several decades of trying and failing to be an InternalReformist ends up convincing Dooku that the system itself is fundamentally broken and there needs to be radical change to get the Republic back to health. Palpatine is all too happy to exploit that disillusionment to prod Dooku into more and more "moral compromises" in the name of social change until eventually Dooku is deep into Sithism and sees no way out.
* InstantDeathBullet: Averted. Ahsoka's mother shoots a kybuck while hunting, then has to MercyKill it with her hunting knife when it ends up being merely wounded.

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* ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy: Lampshaded and discussed in regards to the Separatist Battle Droids, which are mostly lousy shots due to their simplistic programming that mostly amounts to "hold gun, shoot gun" and make up for it through [[WeHaveReserves numbers]]. Ahsoka complains about Anakin's test involving clone troopers shooting at her for this reason, pointing out that her clone allies are better shots then than the droids she'll actually be fighting. Anakin agrees and says it's the point; if she can learn to dodge and deflect clone blasterfire, blaster fire, the less dangerous droid blasterfire blaster fire will be even easier to deal with, and she'll also have valuable experience with fighting living creatures that are inherently less predictable then droids with weak AI. Sure enough, the training pays off during Order 66.
* InherentInTheSystem: Dooku and Qui-Gon initially see the growing corruption in the Republic and Jedi Council as a minor problem, something that is rare and can be easily dealt with. Several decades of trying and failing to be an InternalReformist ends up convincing Dooku that the system itself is fundamentally broken and there needs to be radical change changes to get the Republic back to health. Palpatine is all too happy to exploit that disillusionment to prod Dooku into more and more "moral compromises" in the name of social change until eventually Dooku is deep into Sithism and sees no way out.
* InstantDeathBullet: Averted. Ahsoka's mother shoots a kybuck while hunting, hunting then has to MercyKill it with her hunting knife when it ends up being merely wounded.



** Dagonet's declaration that he intends to utterly destroy the town that kidnapped his son, even though [[NeverMyFault they only did so because of his mistreatment of him]] and even his son agrees with them, simply to make an example of people who act against him is what angers Dooku enough to nearly Force Choke the man.

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** Dagonet's declaration that he intends to utterly destroy the town that kidnapped his son, even though [[NeverMyFault they only did so because of his mistreatment of he mistreated him]] and even his son agrees with them, simply to make an example of people who act against him is what angers Dooku enough to nearly Force Choke the man.



** The sequences of Ahsoka training with numerous clones surrounding her bears a striking resemblance to a similar scene in a trailer featuring another of [[VideoGame/StarWarsTheForceUnleashed Anakin's apprentices]]...

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** The sequences of Ahsoka training with numerous clones surrounding her bears bear a striking resemblance to a similar scene in a trailer featuring another of [[VideoGame/StarWarsTheForceUnleashed Anakin's apprentices]]...



** PlayedWith as the final episode of this series basically follows the key plot points from the ''[[Literature/StarWarsAhsoka Ahsoka]]'' novel, while cutting out a lot in order to fit a 15 minute run time. The only things to remain are; Ahsoka hiding as a regular worker, accidentally outing herself as a Jedi by saving someone, befriending a local girl, the Empire going scorched earth to find her after someone reports to them about a Jedi, Ahsoka killing a masked inquisitor, contacting Bail in order to find refuge for the survivors, and finally Bail being the one she contacts in order to return to the fight.

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** PlayedWith as the final episode of this series basically follows the key plot points from the ''[[Literature/StarWarsAhsoka Ahsoka]]'' novel, while cutting out a lot in order to fit a 15 minute 15-minute run time. The only things to remain are; Ahsoka hiding as a regular worker, accidentally outing herself as a Jedi by saving someone, befriending a local girl, the Empire going scorched earth to find her after someone reports to them about a Jedi, Ahsoka killing a masked inquisitor, contacting Bail in order to find refuge for the survivors, and finally Bail being the one she contacts in order to return to the fight.



* RiteOfPassage: The first episodes shows Ahsoka as a one year old, being taken on a traditional hunt by her mother Pav-ti, despite her father Nak-il's protest that it's old-fashioned. Things go awry when a predator intrudes and ends up grabbing Ahsoka as the other villagers try to drive it off.

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* RiteOfPassage: The first episodes episode shows Ahsoka as a one year old, one-year-old, being taken on a traditional hunt by her mother Pav-ti, despite her father Nak-il's protest that it's old-fashioned. Things go awry when a predator intrudes and ends up grabbing Ahsoka as the other villagers try to drive it off.



* SuperPersistentPredator: The Big Cat like predator in Episode 1 only seems to want to eat Pav-ti and Ahsoka, despite the freshly killed and much larger kybuck right there for the taking.
* TimePassageBeard: The passage of time and Dooku's character arc is symbolized by his BeardOfEvil. At the start, when he's a Jedi serving the people, he's clean-shaven. In the middle, when he's growing increasingly disillusioned, he has a BeardOfSorrow but it's clean and well-groomed. At the end, when he makes his final steps into Sithism and political violence, he has his trademark scraggly, sinister full beard.
* TrainingFromHell: Anakin's idea of training for Ahsoka is decidedly more harsh and pragmatic then typical for Jedi; having her stand in a circle and be shot at (with stun on, obviously) by her own clone trooper comrades, to improve her reflexes, ability to think outside the box, [[CrazyPrepared preparation for any scenario]], and ability to take a hit (since getting stunned repeatedly helps her develop resistance to it).
* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Immediately after the war, the general public — unaware of his true nature — still views Palpatine as a noble and strong wartime leader who led the galaxy to peace in a turbulent time and was the victim of a betrayal and assassination attempt by the Jedi. The tide of opinion is already turning, however, as shown by the overseer of the farm Ahsoka works on, who is contemptuous of his son's fervent support of the Empire and points out how the "peace" they're under was created through persecution of Jedi and former Separatists, raising the question of who is safe (nobody is, as it turns out).
* VocalEvolution: Corey Burton's voice for Dooku in his early days sounds higher-pitched than before, reminiscent of his voice for Cad Bane or [[WesternAnimation/TheSecretSaturdays V.V. Argost.]] It's likely deliberate to make Dooku sound younger.
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* SuperPersistentPredator: The Big Cat like BigCat-like predator in Episode 1 only seems to want to eat Pav-ti and Ahsoka, despite the freshly killed and much larger kybuck right there for the taking.
* TimePassageBeard: The passage of time and Dooku's character arc is symbolized by his BeardOfEvil. At the start, when he's a Jedi serving the people, he's clean-shaven. In the middle, when he's growing increasingly disillusioned, he has a BeardOfSorrow but it's clean and well-groomed. At In the end, when he makes his final steps into Sithism and political violence, he has his trademark scraggly, sinister full beard.
* TrainingFromHell: Anakin's idea of training for Ahsoka is decidedly more harsh and pragmatic then than typical for Jedi; having her stand in a circle and be shot at (with stun on, obviously) by her own clone trooper comrades, to improve her reflexes, ability to think outside the box, [[CrazyPrepared preparation for any scenario]], and ability to take a hit (since getting stunned repeatedly helps her develop resistance to it).
* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Immediately after the war, the general public — unaware of his true nature — still views view Palpatine as a noble and strong wartime leader who led the galaxy to peace in a turbulent time and was the victim of a betrayal and assassination attempt by the Jedi. The tide of opinion is already turning, however, as shown by the overseer of the farm Ahsoka works on, who is contemptuous of his son's fervent support of the Empire and points out how the "peace" they're under was created through the persecution of Jedi and former Separatists, raising the question of who is safe (nobody is, as it turns out).
* VocalEvolution: Corey Burton's voice for Dooku in his early days sounds higher-pitched than before, reminiscent of his voice for Cad Bane or [[WesternAnimation/TheSecretSaturdays V.V. Argost.]] Argost]]. It's likely deliberate to make Dooku sound younger.
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* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: One of the biggest moments in Dooku's radicalization comes when his willingness to bend the rules allows him to solve the murder of a fellow Jedi and uncover a plot by a senator's guards to seize control of Raxus… and his reward is Mace Windu ratting him out to the Council, ostensibly because Mace was following protocol, but it just so happens to conveniently result in Dooku being passed over for a seat on the Council in favor of Mace.

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* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: One of the biggest moments in Dooku's radicalization comes when his willingness to bend the rules allows him to solve the murder of a fellow Jedi and uncover a plot by a senator's guards to seize control of Raxus… and his reward is Mace Windu ratting him out to the Council, ostensibly because Mace was following protocol, but it just so happens to conveniently result in Dooku being passed over for a seat on the Council in favor of Mace.
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* AmbiguousInnocence: Mace Windu rats out Dooku's CowboyCop methods on Raxus to the Council, which leads to Dooku being passed over for a seat on the Council (which he had hoped to get into order to enact reforms) that goes to Windu instead. Dooku clearly suspects that Windu's actions were a politically motivated power-grab, while Windu insists he was just following protocol and was just as surprised as anyone when he was offered the seat. It's not clear which is true, but Dooku's justifiable suspicion worsens his disillusionment with the Order.

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* AmbiguousInnocence: Mace Windu rats out reports Dooku's CowboyCop methods on Raxus to the Council, which leads to Dooku being passed over for a seat on the Council (which he had hoped to get into order to enact reforms) that goes to Windu instead. Dooku clearly suspects that Windu's actions were a politically motivated power-grab, while Windu insists he was just following protocol and was just as surprised as anyone when he was offered the seat. It's not clear which is true, as to Mace’s credit he has always been duty-bound, but Dooku's justifiable suspicion worsens his disillusionment with the Order.

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* AHeroIsBorn: The first episode begins with Ahsoka Tano's birth.



* AHeroIsBorn: The first episode begins with Ahsoka Tano's birth.



* PuppetKing: Senator Larik's PraetorianGuard try to stage a quiet coup on Raxus by turning Larik into one, threatening him into undoing his corrupt policies and instituting new ones more beneficial to Raxus, while also killing anybody who learns of the truth behind Larik's "change of heart". Dooku and Mace Windu's investigation of Master Canti's death throws a wrench into that scheme, ending with Larik dead and the guards either dead themselves or arrested for treason.

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* PuppetKing: Senator Larik's PraetorianGuard try to stage a quiet coup on Raxus by turning Larik into one, threatening him into undoing his corrupt policies and instituting new ones more beneficial to Raxus, while also killing anybody who learns of the truth behind Larik's "change of heart". Dooku and Mace Windu's investigation of Master Canti's Katri's death throws a wrench into that scheme, ending with Larik dead and the guards either dead themselves or arrested for treason.



* TrainingFromHell: Anakin's idea of training for Ahsoka is decidedly more harsh and pragmatic then typical for Jedi; having her stand in a circle and be shot at (with stun on, obviously) by her own clone trooper comrades, to improve her reflexes, ability to think outside the box, [[CrazyPrepared preparation for any scenario]], and ability to take a hit (since getting stunned repeated helps her develop resistance to it).

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* TrainingFromHell: Anakin's idea of training for Ahsoka is decidedly more harsh and pragmatic then typical for Jedi; having her stand in a circle and be shot at (with stun on, obviously) by her own clone trooper comrades, to improve her reflexes, ability to think outside the box, [[CrazyPrepared preparation for any scenario]], and ability to take a hit (since getting stunned repeated repeatedly helps her develop resistance to it).



* VocalEvolution: Corey Burton's voice for Dooku sounds higher-pitched than before, reminiscent of his voice for Cad Bane or [[WesternAnimation/TheSecretSaturdays V.V. Argost.]] It's likely deliberate to make Dooku sound younger.

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* VocalEvolution: Corey Burton's voice for Dooku in his early days sounds higher-pitched than before, reminiscent of his voice for Cad Bane or [[WesternAnimation/TheSecretSaturdays V.V. Argost.]] It's likely deliberate to make Dooku sound younger.
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-->-- '''Pav-Ti'''
'''Pav-ti'''
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* BackForTheDead: "The Sith Lord" marks [[spoiler:Yaddle's]] first canon appearance since ''The Phantom Menace''. She is killed by Dooku at the end, explaining why she never appeared again.

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* BackForTheDead: "The Sith Lord" marks [[spoiler:Yaddle's]] [[spoiler:Yaddle's first canon appearance since ''The Phantom Menace''. She is killed by Dooku at the end, explaining why she never appeared again.]]
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* BackForTheDead: "The Sith Lord" marks [[Yaddle's]] first canon appearance since ''The Phantom Menace''. She is killed by Dooku at the end, explaining why she never appeared again.

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* BackForTheDead: "The Sith Lord" marks [[Yaddle's]] [[spoiler:Yaddle's]] first canon appearance since ''The Phantom Menace''. She is killed by Dooku at the end, explaining why she never appeared again.
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* InherentInTheSystem: Dooku and Qui-Gon initially see the growing corruption in the Republic and Jedi Council as a minor problem, something that is rare and can be easily dealt with. Several decades of trying and failing to be an InternalReformist ends up convincing Dooku that the system itself is fundamentally broken and there needs to be radical change to get the Republic back to health. Palpatine is all to happy to exploit that disillusionment to prod Dooku into more and more "moral compromises" in the name of social change until eventually Dooku is deep into Sithism and sees no way out.

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* InherentInTheSystem: Dooku and Qui-Gon initially see the growing corruption in the Republic and Jedi Council as a minor problem, something that is rare and can be easily dealt with. Several decades of trying and failing to be an InternalReformist ends up convincing Dooku that the system itself is fundamentally broken and there needs to be radical change to get the Republic back to health. Palpatine is all to too happy to exploit that disillusionment to prod Dooku into more and more "moral compromises" in the name of social change until eventually Dooku is deep into Sithism and sees no way out.
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* SuperPersistentPredator: The Big Cat like predator in Episode 1 only seems to want to eat Pav-ti and Ahsoka, despite the freshly killed and much larger kybuck right there for the taking.

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* . BenevolentConspiracy: Dooku ''thinks'' that Palpatine's big conspiracy is this, bending the rules and manipulating the system to restore the Republic to it's former glory. Naturally, it's actually just about [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans giving the power-hungry Palpatine's control of the galaxy]], but Palpatine is more then happy to play into and encourage Dooku's misguided belief that everything they're doing is for the greater good.

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* . * BenevolentConspiracy: Dooku ''thinks'' that Palpatine's big conspiracy is this, bending the rules and manipulating the system to restore the Republic to it's former glory. Naturally, it's actually just about [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans giving the power-hungry Palpatine's control of the galaxy]], but Palpatine is more then happy to play into and encourage Dooku's misguided belief that everything they're doing is for the greater good.


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*. BenevolentConspiracy: Dooku ''thinks'' that Palpatine's big conspiracy is this, bending the rules and manipulating the system to restore the Republic to it's former glory. Naturally, it's actually just about [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans giving the power-hungry Palpatine's control of the galaxy]], but Palpatine is more then happy to play into and encourage Dooku's misguided belief that everything they're doing is for the greater good.
* BlackShirt: A young man on the farm Ahsoka retires to is an avid supporter of the Empire, believing the propaganda that Palpatine has brought peace and order to the galaxy by ending the war and that the Jedi were traitors. He learns his lesson the hard way when he learns of Ahsoka being a Jedi, calls the Inquisitorius to report her, and an Inquisitor promptly shows up and burns his village down while killing most of his friends and coworkers in search of Ahsoka.



** Count Dooku takes a more aggressive stance against enemy combatants, which frightens his young apprentice Qui-Gon and forces Mace Windu to intervene. He also mentions that he tried to warn the Jedi about the fate rising against them, both cleverly hinting at his eventual fall to the dark side.



* ContinuityNod: Padmé's funeral, as seen in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', is shown in the final episode -- and it's revealed that Ahsoka was in attendance.



* ContinuityNod:
** Padmé's funeral, as seen in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', is shown in the final episode -- and it's revealed that Ahsoka was in attendance.
** Overlapping with MythologyGag, the assassin droids that Larik's guards use to attack Dooku and Mace (and which they implicitly used to kill Master Katri) are either old [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic HK models]] or a more advanced model in the same line.
* CorruptPolitician: Both of the Republic senators seen are scumbags of the highest order, symbolizing the Republic's larger decay. Senator Dagonet is a selfish, cruel man who lets his people starve and suffer in the name of his political ambitions, only to crackdown with brutal force when they retaliate by kidnapping his son (who is so shocked by how his father's subjects are faring that he ''agrees with and supports his kidnappers''). Senator Larik is a greedy coward who tries to sell off and exploit Raxus and it's people for his own gain, which eventually provokes his PraetorianGuard into trying to stage a coup.



* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Even after his fall from grace, Dooku clearly loves Qui-Gon as a son, and is heartbroken and filled with rage when he dies dueling Maul on Naboo. At the same time, it's darkly subverted with Palpatine, who tries to act as if he's equally affected by Maul's own apparent death ("you lost an apprentice and so did I!") to get sympathy from Dooku, but clearly doesn't actually care that much.

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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: DeathByLookingUp: [[spoiler:Yaddle nearly dies when Dooku drops a cargo bay door on top of her. She manages to just barely stop it with the Force, but [[HeroicRROD the extreme exertion that doing so puts her body through]] leaves her easily finished off.]]
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Even after his fall from grace, Dooku clearly loves Qui-Gon as a son, and is heartbroken and filled with rage when he dies dueling Maul on Naboo. At the same time, it's darkly subverted with Palpatine, who tries to act as if he's equally affected by Maul's own apparent death ("you lost an apprentice and so did I!") to get sympathy from Dooku, but clearly doesn't actually care that much.much.
** While Dagonet is a corrupt and uncaring ruler, he also loves his son dearly and retaliates brutally when the boy is kidnapped.
** Not quite ''evil'' (though certainly ruthless), but the leader of Senator Larik's guards and the head of the conspiracy on Raxus is horrified and grief-stricken when Mace is forced to kill one of his younger men, with the implication that said man was the leader's son.
* FluffyTamer: Ahsoka's first use of the Force is calming an angry and hungry wildcat that stole her for food while her mother was hunting, even compelling it to carry her back home. This confirms to her village that she is Force sensitive.
* HardWorkMontage: The fifth episode is largely dedicated to one for Ahsoka, being taught how to be CrazyPrepared for anything through Anakin's unorthodox teaching methods.



* ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy: Lampshaded and discussed in regards to the Separatist Battle Droids, which are mostly lousy shots due to their simplistic programming that mostly amounts to "hold gun, shoot gun" and make up for it through [[WeHaveReserves numbers]]. Ahsoka complains about Anakin's test involving clone troopers shooting at her for this reason, pointing out that her clone allies are better shots then the droids she'll actually be fighting. Anakin agrees and says it's the point; if she can learn to dodge and deflect clone blasterfire, the less dangerous droid blasterfire will be even easier to deal with, and she'll also have valuable experience with fighting living creatures that are inherently less predictable then droids with weak AI. Sure enough, the training pays off during Order 66.
* InstantDeathBullet: Averted. Ahsoka's mother shoots a kybuck while hunting, then has to MercyKill it with her hunting knife when it ends up being merely wounded.
* IveComeTooFar: After taking part in Palpatine's conspiracy by helping orchestrate Sifo-Diyas' death, the creation of the clone army, and the Blockade of Naboo, an increasingly horrified Dooku questions if this "benevolent" plot to "save" the Republic is going too far. [[spoiler:But when Yaddle confronts him and demands he turn in Palpatine and publicly admit his wrongdoing, he — with a little extra manipulation and egging on from Palpatine — instead chooses to murder her in order to keep the plot going, believing that he's ''already'' gone too far and that [[SunkCostFallacy to quit now will render the sacrifices he's made meaningless]].]]



* MythologyGag: The scenes in the trailer of Ahsoka training with numerous clones surrounding her bears a striking resemblance to a similar scene in another trailer featuring another of [[VideoGame/StarWarsTheForceUnleashed Anakin's apprentices]]...

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** Dagonet's declaration that he intends to utterly destroy the town that kidnapped his son, even though [[NeverMyFault they only did so because of his mistreatment of him]] and even his son agrees with them, simply to make an example of people who act against him is what angers Dooku enough to nearly Force Choke the man.
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The scenes in Inquisitor who hunts down Ahsoka burns down the trailer farm she was working on and kills most of her coworkers, implicitly to make an example of what happens to people who "harbor" Jedi. He does not know or care that only one person there even knew about Ahsoka being a Jedi.
* MercyKill: Ahsoka sees death for the first time as a toddler when her mother takes her hunting, then makes her watch as she mercy kills a kybuck that she shot but failed to immediately kill.
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of Ahsoka training with numerous clones surrounding her bears a striking resemblance to a similar scene in another a trailer featuring another of [[VideoGame/StarWarsTheForceUnleashed Anakin's apprentices]]...apprentices]]...
** While hiding undercover, Ahsoka uses the alias "Ashla"; the term that Creator/GeorgeLucas originally intended to use as the name of the Light Side of the Force, which is how it's canonically used, though as an ancient and obsolete word few know of by this point of the timeline (hence why it makes a good fake name).


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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: Dooku is initially a borderline TechnicalPacifist, and while he's sympathetic to the nascent Separatist movement and agrees with all their criticisms of the Republic, he is disturbed by and rejects their willingness to use violence in the name of social change. His StartOfDarkness begins in earnest when years of trying to be a peaceful InternalReformist are undermined by the Jedi Council's unwillingness to change with the times and the Republic's own corruption and Palpatine exploits his frustration to manipulate him into questionable deeds for "the greater good", causing him to slowly lose his aversion to violence and come to instead see it as a viable, even necessary, tool of societal improvement.
* RiteOfPassage: The first episodes shows Ahsoka as a one year old, being taken on a traditional hunt by her mother Pav-ti, despite her father Nak-il's protest that it's old-fashioned. Things go awry when a predator intrudes and ends up grabbing Ahsoka as the other villagers try to drive it off.


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* TrainingFromHell: Anakin's idea of training for Ahsoka is decidedly more harsh and pragmatic then typical for Jedi; having her stand in a circle and be shot at (with stun on, obviously) by her own clone trooper comrades, to improve her reflexes, ability to think outside the box, [[CrazyPrepared preparation for any scenario]], and ability to take a hit (since getting stunned repeated helps her develop resistance to it).
* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Immediately after the war, the general public — unaware of his true nature — still views Palpatine as a noble and strong wartime leader who led the galaxy to peace in a turbulent time and was the victim of a betrayal and assassination attempt by the Jedi. The tide of opinion is already turning, however, as shown by the overseer of the farm Ahsoka works on, who is contemptuous of his son's fervent support of the Empire and points out how the "peace" they're under was created through persecution of Jedi and former Separatists, raising the question of who is safe (nobody is, as it turns out).
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* ByTheBookCop: Well, Jedi aren't cops ''per se'' but Mace is adamant on following the official procedure to the letter, in comparison to Dooku's wish to investigate. Mace later ends up ratting Dooku out to the council and (possibly) costing him a council seat.
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** At the end of "Justice", Dooku refers to Qui-Gon as a much wiser man than himself. Qui-Gon would say the same to Obi-Wan in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''.
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** In ''Attack Of The Clones'' Dooku said that despite being his former master, he very much valued the aid and wisdom of Qui-Gon. After the events with Senator Dagonet, Dooku confides in Qui-Gon that he considers him the wiser of the two.

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** In ''Attack Of The Clones'' Clones'', Dooku said that despite being his former master, he very much valued the aid and wisdom of Qui-Gon. After the events with Senator Dagonet, Dooku confides in Qui-Gon that he considers him the wiser of the two.
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** PlayedWith as the final episode of this series basically follows the key plot points from the [[Literature/StarWarsAhsoka Ahsoka Novel]], while cutting out a lot in order to fit a 15 minute run time. The only things to remain are; Ahsoka hiding as a regular worker, accidentally outing herself as a Jedi by saving someone, befriending a local girl, the empire going scorched earth to find her after someone reports to them about a Jedi, Ahsoka killing a masked inquisitor, contacting Bail in order to find refuge for the survivors, and finally Bail being the one she contacts in order to return to the fight.

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** PlayedWith as the final episode of this series basically follows the key plot points from the [[Literature/StarWarsAhsoka Ahsoka Novel]], ''[[Literature/StarWarsAhsoka Ahsoka]]'' novel, while cutting out a lot in order to fit a 15 minute run time. The only things to remain are; Ahsoka hiding as a regular worker, accidentally outing herself as a Jedi by saving someone, befriending a local girl, the empire Empire going scorched earth to find her after someone reports to them about a Jedi, Ahsoka killing a masked inquisitor, contacting Bail in order to find refuge for the survivors, and finally Bail being the one she contacts in order to return to the fight.

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