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* SuperweaponSurprise: [[spoiler: The Terrians' past fighter aircraft and spider tanks. Subverted in that they're unable to put up more than a token resistance even with them due to being outnumbered, as they barely dented Jim's ship. The fighters are pretty powerful in action, though.]]
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* SuperweaponSurprise: [[spoiler: The Terrians' past fighter aircraft and spider tanks. Subverted in that they're It's subverted with the tanks, which are unable to put up more than a token resistance even with them due to being outnumbered, as they barely dented damage Jim's ship. fighter and don't do much to prevent him and Mala from fleeing. The fighters are pretty powerful in action, though.usually one-shotting anything they get a direct hit on, though ultimately the Terrans are too few to put up much more than a token resistance against the battle-ready human army.]]
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* IDidWhatIHadToDo: Hemmer notes that even if his plans work, future generations will almost certainly view him as a monster for what he's done… but the fact that at least they'll ''be'' future generations makes it all worth it to him.
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* TheUnfettered: Hemmer knows he'll probably be looked at as a monster for what he intends to do, but he feels that it is truly necessary so that humanity can survive and thus goes ahead with it anyway.
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* LampshadeHanging: General Hammer lampshades the terraforming device taking seven days, an obvious reference to [[Literature/TheBible Genesis]], by saying, "Very biblical, don't you think?"
* LivingGasbag: Pretty much all the native life on Terra consists of this, including the Terrians.
* LivingGasbag: Pretty much all the native life on Terra consists of this, including the Terrians.
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* LampshadeHanging: General Hammer lampshades the terraforming device taking seven days, an obvious reference to [[Literature/TheBible [[Literature/BookOfGenesis Genesis]], by saying, "Very biblical, don't you think?"
* LivingGasbag:Pretty much all All the native life on Terra consists of this, including the Terrians.
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* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler: Stewart is shown making peace with the Terrans at the end.]]
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* HopeSpot: [[spoiler:It looks like Jim is going to crash his ship into the terraformer's tower, but he blows it up before he hits it and then turns around, almost about to make it to safety... and is then killed in the fireball.]]
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* HopeSpot: [[spoiler:It looks like Jim is going to crash his ship into the terraformer's tower, but he blows it up before he hits it and then turns around, almost about to make it to safety... but is caught by the fireball and is then killed in the fireball.killed.]]
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* HumansAreCthulhu: How humans are first presented as. Mala and the others stare in wonder at this new thing that showed up in their sky. Then these metal things suddenly come down and start abducting citizens, including Mala's father. Eventually they learn that said aliens are humans attempting to find a new homeworld, and there are two conflicting factions within, one that wants to kill the natives via terraforming the planet, and another that wants to try to coexist with them peacefully.
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* HumansAreCthulhu: How humans are first presented as. Mala and the others stare in wonder at this new thing that showed up in their sky. Then these metal things suddenly come down and start abducting citizens, including Mala's father. Eventually they learn that said aliens are humans attempting to find a new homeworld, and there are two conflicting factions within, one that Hemmer who wants to urgently kill the natives via terraforming the planet, planet so the humans could survive, and another that wants to try to coexist with them peacefully.the council, which considers negotiations before warfare and was forced out of power.
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* InnocentAliens: The Terrians... mostly. [[spoiler: Those low hanging clouds in the ForbiddenZone? Ash clouds from a war that nearly destroyed their species.]]
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* InnocentAliens: The Terrians... mostly. [[spoiler: Those low hanging clouds in the ForbiddenZone? Ash clouds from a war civil conflict that nearly destroyed their species.]]
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* NoOntologicalInertia: [[spoiler:The terraformer is destroyed moments before the atmosphere conversion becomes irreversible, and as a result the already produced atmosphere dissipates pretty much instantly. Maybe the missiles caused an explosion that consumed the oxygen .]]
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* NoOntologicalInertia: [[spoiler:The terraformer is destroyed moments before the atmosphere conversion becomes irreversible, and as a result the already produced atmosphere dissipates pretty much instantly. Maybe the oxygen were consumed when Jim's missiles caused an explosion that consumed prompted a combustion which quickly burned through all the oxygen .oxygen in the area.]]
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* PerfectPacifistPeople: Subverted, if not deconstructed. [[spoiler: The Terrians only adopted a pacifist society after a violent war that nearly destroyed their species, and the Elders ruthlessly suppress any further technological advancement for fear that it might lead them once again down the path of conflict.]]
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* PerfectPacifistPeople: Subverted, if not deconstructed. [[spoiler: The Terrians only adopted a pacifist society after a violent war that nearly destroyed their species, and the Elders ruthlessly suppress any further technological advancement for fear that it might lead them once again down the path of conflict.conflict, only to pull it out again when they have to defend themselves.]]
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* PlanetOfHats: Averted. The terrians weren't always a happy, life loving people. [[spoiler: They were once a warlike people who nearly wiped themselves out.]]
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* PlanetOfHats: Averted. The terrians weren't always a happy, life loving people. [[spoiler: They were once a warlike people who History has it they've nearly wiped themselves out.out once.]]
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** Also, Elder Doron among the Terrians. He maintains sole authority on any new inventions among the Terrians, [[spoiler: but it's because he was one of the last survivors of the war that nearly destroyed their species and he wants to prevent it from happening again. Later, he doesn't hesitate to break out the old armada to defend his people from hostile invaders.]]
** Also, Elder Doron among the Terrians. He maintains sole authority on any new inventions among the Terrians, [[spoiler: but it's because he was one of the last survivors of the war that nearly destroyed their species and he wants to prevent it from happening again. Later, he doesn't hesitate to break out the old armada to defend his people from hostile invaders.]]
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** Also, Elder Doron among the Terrians. He maintains sole authority on any new inventions among the Terrians, [[spoiler: but it's because he was one of the last survivors of the war that nearly destroyed their species and he wants to prevent it from happening again. Later, he doesn't hesitate to break out the old armada he concealed to defend his people from hostile invaders.]]
** Also, Elder Doron among the Terrians. He maintains sole authority on any new inventions among the Terrians, [[spoiler: but it's because he was one of the last survivors of the war that nearly destroyed their species and he wants to prevent it from happening again. Later, he doesn't hesitate to break out the old armada he concealed to defend his people from hostile invaders.]]
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* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: Mala gets ''pissed'' when [[spoiler:her friend is shot down by Jim's brother]]. If not for Jim's intervention, [[spoiler:she'd have vaporized him eventually]].
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* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: Mala gets ''pissed'' when [[spoiler:her friend is shot down by Jim's brother]]. If not for Jim's intervention, intervention prematurely interrupting the fight and later forcing it to an end [[spoiler:she'd have vaporized him eventually]].
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* TakeAThirdOption: Twice. [[spoiler: Jim first is presented with the SadisticChoice between saving Mala or his brother, and chooses his brother. Then he orders Giddy to save Mala. Later, in the middle of the battle between human and terrian around the terraformer, he has to choose whether to rescue his brother or let Mala kill him for shooting down her friend. He intervenes and blocks them from fighting each other, then destroys the Terraformer at the cost of his life.]] Don't worry, it resulted in an EarnYourHappyEnding.
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* TakeAThirdOption: Twice. [[spoiler: Jim first is presented with the SadisticChoice between saving Mala or his brother, and chooses his brother. Then he orders brother, while instructing Giddy to save Mala. Later, in the middle of the battle between human and terrian around the terraformer, he has to choose whether to rescue his brother or let Mala kill him for shooting down her friend. He intervenes and blocks them from fighting each other, then destroys the Terraformer at the cost of his life.]] Don't worry, it resulted in an EarnYourHappyEnding.
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* UsedFuture: The Ark is in ''horrible'' condition. There is not a single part of the ship that isn't covered in rust or worn out, and equipment failures that result in death are common. [[spoiler: It fragmented when the humans moved out.]]
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* UsedFuture: The Ark is in ''horrible'' condition. There is not a single part of the ship that isn't covered in rust or worn out, and equipment failures that result in death are common. [[spoiler: It fragmented when the humans moved out.out at the end of the film.]]
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* WeComeInPeaceShootToKill: The president wants to explore all options before they go with genocide, while Hemmer advocates an "us or them" position. First contact consists of the military abducting numerous Terrians, and Jim opens fire immediately when he spots Mala's primitive flying machine. Later on, bombers lay waste to her village, probably because Mala managed to take down Jim's ship.
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* WeComeInPeaceShootToKill: The president human council wants to explore all other options before they go with genocide, use force, while Hemmer advocates an "us or them" position. First contact consists of the military abducting numerous Terrians, and Jim opens fire immediately when he spots Mala's primitive flying machine. Later on, bombers attack craft lay waste to her village, probably because Mala managed to take down Jim's ship.
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* SuperweaponSurprise: [[spoiler: The Terrians' past fighters and tanks. Subverted in that they're unable to put up more than a token resistance even with them due to being outnumbered. These are just enough for sympathetic humans to act.]]
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* SuperweaponSurprise: [[spoiler: The Terrians' past fighters fighter aircraft and spider tanks. Subverted in that they're unable to put up more than a token resistance even with them due to being outnumbered. These outnumbered, as they barely dented Jim's ship. The fighters are just enough for sympathetic humans to act.pretty powerful in action, though.]]
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* AlmostOutOfOxygen: Jim runs out of oxygen in his spacesuit, and the other protagonists have to synthesize it for him. Later in the movie, Jim's brother and Mala are stuck in a room that is pressurized to support her, but not him. He has to choose between pumping oxygen in to save his brother, or to let him die to save Mala. He [[TakingAThirdOption takes a third option]]. [[spoiler:Hemmer also reveals that the Ark itself is down to two months of breathable air, making their need for a new home all the more immediate.]]
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* AlmostOutOfOxygen: Jim runs out of oxygen in his spacesuit, and the other protagonists have to synthesize it for him. Later in the movie, Jim's brother and Mala are stuck in a room that is pressurized to support her, but not him. He has to choose between pumping oxygen in to save his brother, or to let him die to save Mala. He [[TakingAThirdOption takes a third option]].option by getting Giddy to destroy the glass and bring Mala's respirator]]. [[spoiler:Hemmer also reveals that the Ark itself is down to two months of breathable air, making their need for a new home all the more immediate.]]
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* AntiVillain: General Hemmer wants to exterminate the Terrian species, but his motivation is to [[WellIntentionedExtremist ensure humanity's survival]] when they're rapidly running out of options aboard a ship that's literally falling apart around them, and he clearly cares about [[AFatherToHisMen the lives of his men]], lamenting in frustration to Jim that more of his comrades have died from ''equipment failures'' than from actual combat.
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* AntiVillain: General Hemmer wants to exterminate the Terrian species, but his motivation is to [[WellIntentionedExtremist ensure humanity's survival]] when they're rapidly running out of options aboard a ship that's literally falling apart around them, and he clearly cares about [[AFatherToHisMen the lives of his men]], lamenting in frustration to Jim that more of his comrades have died from ''equipment failures'' caused more deaths than from actual combat.
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* BloodKnight: Hemmer unapologetically wants to kill the Terrians. When he's told they can fight back, he's glad to hear it; slaughtering them like animals would have been a much less noble end.
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* BloodKnight: Hemmer unapologetically wants to kill the Terrians. When he's told they can fight are fighting back, he's glad to hear it; slaughtering them like animals would have been a much less noble end.
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* ChekhovsGun: The "web-room" of breathable oxygen that Mala builds for Jim. [[spoiler: It's eventually reused on a greater scale when the humans establish their own colony.]]
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* ChekhovsGun: The "web-room" of breathable oxygen that Mala builds for Jim.Jim, later discovered by the elders. [[spoiler: It's eventually reused on a greater scale when the humans establish their own colony.]]
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* FantasticallyChallengingPatient: {{Inverted}}. After human pilot Jim Stanton crashes his one-man craft on planet Terra, native alien Mala comes to check on him. Stanton is breathing with difficulty, since his air supply is almost exhausted, and the planet isn't habitable for humans. Mala has to cobble together an oxygen collector to keep Stanton alive.
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* FantasticallyChallengingPatient: {{Inverted}}. After human pilot Jim Stanton crashes his one-man craft on planet Terra, native alien Mala comes to check on him. Stanton is breathing with difficulty, since his air supply is almost exhausted, and the planet isn't habitable for humans. Mala has to cobble together an oxygen collector to keep Stanton alive.alive with Giddy's help.
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* GenerationShips: The Ark is one, and has been in space for so long that its entire population was born there. [[spoiler:It's also so old that it's falling apart at the seams, and in two months will be incapable of supporting life at all.]]
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* GenerationShips: The Ark is one, and has been in space for so long that its entire population was born there. [[spoiler:It's also so old that it's falling apart at the seams, and in two months will be incapable of supporting life at all. When the humans form a new colony on Terra, it is left to fragment in the depths of space.]]
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* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler: Jim’s brother is shown making peace with the Terrans at the end.]]
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* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler: Jim’s brother Stewart is shown making peace with the Terrans at the end.]]
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* InvadingRefugees: The humans. As General Hemmer [[VillainHasAPoint points out]], they basically ''have'' to colonize Terra or face extinction because Earth, Mars, and Venus are all long gone, and they can't look for somewhere else to live because [[spoiler: the ''Ark'' has only two months left of air]].
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* InvadingRefugees: The humans. As General Hemmer [[VillainHasAPoint points out]], they basically ''have'' to colonize Terra or face extinction because Earth, Mars, and Venus are all long gone, and they can't look for somewhere else to live because [[spoiler: the ''Ark'' has only two months left of air]].air which doesn't allow them to move far enough]].
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* MoralMyopia: Hemmer justifies his coup by using footage of a Terrian causing a hull breach that killed two humans along with the Terrian. He refuses to even address that his men abducted said Terrian, [[spoiler:and that he was Mala's father and thus [[PapaWolf defending his daughter]]]], despite the fact that the council he is arguing to brings up both points.
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* MoralMyopia: Hemmer justifies his coup by using footage of a Terrian causing a hull breach that killed two humans along with the Terrian. He refuses to even address that his men abducted said Terrian, [[spoiler:and that he was Mala's father and thus [[PapaWolf defending his daughter]]]], despite daughter]]]]. Of course, seeing as the fact that the more negotiable council brought these points up, he is arguing ultimately uses force to brings up both points.assume leadership.
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** No one has long hair (Jim is bald, the Terrians are hairless), and the only flowing surfaces are some pendants in the middle of the film.
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* NoOntologicalInertia: [[spoiler:The terraformer is destroyed moments before the atmosphere conversion becomes irreversible, and as a result the already produced atmosphere dissipates pretty much instantly.]]
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* OurFounder: [[spoiler:Jim]] gets a statue at the end, [[spoiler:since his HeroicSacrifice led to the establishment of a colony that benefits both species.]]
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* OurFounder: [[spoiler:Jim]] gets a statue at the end, [[spoiler:since his HeroicSacrifice led to the establishment of a colony that benefits both species.allowed a more negotiable outcome between the remaining human leaders and the Terrians.]]
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** The President and his council, before a coup which results in Hemmer [[TyrantTakesTheHelm taking over]].
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* RidiculouslyHumanRobots: Giddy, which even catches Jim off-guard. Other robots of his model never even speak, so it's unclear if this is common.
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* RidiculouslyHumanRobots: Giddy, which even catches Jim off-guard. Other robots of his model never even speak, so it's unclear if this is common.common or if they just didn't have enough screen time.
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* ShoutOut: One of the characters yells, "It's a trap!"
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* ShoutOut: One of the characters yells, "It's a trap!"trap!" when an extremely large horde of Terrian fighters ambush them.
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* SoftGlass: {{Averted|Trope}}. When Giddy breaks the glass of the containment room holding Mala, the shards give Jim some decent cuts on his face.
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* SoftGlass: {{Averted|Trope}}. When Giddy breaks the glass of the containment room holding Mala, the shards give Jim some decent cuts on his face.face, and everyone else in the room is knocked out.
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* TakeAThirdOption: Twice. [[spoiler: Jim first is presented with the SadisticChoice between saving Mala or his brother, and chooses his brother. Then he orders Giddy to save Mala. Later, in the middle of the battle between human and terrian around the terraformer, he has to choose whether to rescue his brother or let Mala kill him for shooting down her friend. He flies between them, interrupting their fight, and then destroys the terraformer.]] Don't worry, it resulted in an EarnYourHappyEnding.
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* TakeAThirdOption: Twice. [[spoiler: Jim first is presented with the SadisticChoice between saving Mala or his brother, and chooses his brother. Then he orders Giddy to save Mala. Later, in the middle of the battle between human and terrian around the terraformer, he has to choose whether to rescue his brother or let Mala kill him for shooting down her friend. He flies between them, interrupting their fight, intervenes and blocks them from fighting each other, then destroys the terraformer.Terraformer at the cost of his life.]] Don't worry, it resulted in an EarnYourHappyEnding.
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* UncertainDoom: General Hemmer's terraforming operators are seen running from the control room before the kamikaze attack hits it, but given the size of the explosion it's doubtful (although not impossible) they could have gotten clear in time.
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* UsedFuture: The Ark is in ''horrible'' condition. There is not a single part of the ship that isn't covered in rust or worn out, and equipment failures that result in death are common.
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* UsedFuture: The Ark is in ''horrible'' condition. There is not a single part of the ship that isn't covered in rust or worn out, and equipment failures that result in death are common. [[spoiler: It fragmented when the humans moved out.]]
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** While his [[FinalSolution solution]] is rather extreme, General Hemmer is quite right that the humans have to act ''immediately'' to prevent their own extinction, especially since the ruling council doesn't manage to come up with any ''alternative'' solutions to the imminent crisis. And his speech on the matter is surprisingly moving.
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** While his [[FinalSolution solution]] is rather extreme, General Hemmer is quite right that the humans have to act ''immediately'' to prevent their own extinction, especially since the ruling council doesn't manage to come up with any ''alternative'' solutions to the imminent crisis.crisis, despite their willingness to negotiate. And his speech on the matter is surprisingly moving.
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** A smaller example comes when Mala finds Elder Orin [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique interrogating]] Giddy for information on the humans' plans and strategies. When Mala demands that they stop torturing him, the elders accurately point out that he ''is'' a tool of the enemy, one known to have superior numbers and combat experience, and the Terrians need any advantage they can get if they're going to survive.
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** A smaller example comes when Mala finds Elder Orin [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique interrogating]] Giddy for information on the humans' plans and strategies. When Mala demands that they stop torturing him, the elders accurately point out that he ''is'' a tool of the enemy, one known to have superior numbers and combat experience, and the Terrians need any advantage they can get if they're going to survive. Knowing Jim wanted Giddy to protect her, she gets him to assist without further complications.
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* ActionGirl: Mala, which is pretty unusual considering she grew up in a society without weapons.
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* ActionGirl: Mala, which is pretty unusual considering she grew up in a society without weapons.where weapons are generally proscribed.
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* ChekhovsGun: The "web-room" of breathable oxygen that Mala builds for Jim. [[spoiler: It's eventually reused on a much grander scale when the Terrians build a colony for the surviving humans.]]
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* ChekhovsGun: The "web-room" of breathable oxygen that Mala builds for Jim. [[spoiler: It's eventually reused on a much grander greater scale when the Terrians build a colony for the surviving humans.humans establish their own colony.]]
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* FantasticallyChallengingPatient: {{Inverted}}. After human pilot Jim Stanton crashes his one-man craft on planet Terra, native alien Mala comes to check on him. Stanton is breathing with difficulty, since his air supply is almost exhausted, and he can't breathe the heavy Terran atmosphere. Mala has to cobble together an oxygen collector to keep Stanton alive.
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* FantasticallyChallengingPatient: {{Inverted}}. After human pilot Jim Stanton crashes his one-man craft on planet Terra, native alien Mala comes to check on him. Stanton is breathing with difficulty, since his air supply is almost exhausted, and he can't breathe the heavy Terran atmosphere.planet isn't habitable for humans. Mala has to cobble together an oxygen collector to keep Stanton alive.
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** [[spoiler: Jim, who dies destroying the terraformer.terraformer to prevent both civilizations from killing each other.]]
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* RayGun: [[spoiler: The Terrian aircraft and walkers utilize laser-like cannons, which prove superior to the human's traditional ballistic weapons during the final battle. Said weapons, however, don't prevent the Terrian force from being overwhelmed by their far more numerous Earth counterparts.]]
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* RayGun: [[spoiler: The Terrian aircraft and walkers utilize laser-like cannons, which prove superior to the human's traditional ballistic weapons during the final battle. Said weapons, however, don't prevent the Terrian force from being overwhelmed by their far more numerous Earth counterparts.However, they still get outnumbered regardless.]]
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* SuperweaponSurprise: [[spoiler: The Terrians' past fighters and tanks. Subverted in that they're unable to put up more than a token resistance even with them, just enough for sympathetic humans to act.]]
* TakeAThirdOption: Twice. [[spoiler: Jim first is presented with the SadisticChoice between saving Mala or his brother, and chooses his brother. Then he manages to save Mala by ordering Giddy to save her. Later, in the middle of the battle between human and terrian around the terraformer, he has to choose whether to rescue his brother or let Mala kill him for shooting down her friend. He flies between them, interrupting their fight, and then destroys the terraformer.]] Don't worry, it resulted in an EarnYourHappyEnding.
* TakeAThirdOption: Twice. [[spoiler: Jim first is presented with the SadisticChoice between saving Mala or his brother, and chooses his brother. Then he manages to save Mala by ordering Giddy to save her. Later, in the middle of the battle between human and terrian around the terraformer, he has to choose whether to rescue his brother or let Mala kill him for shooting down her friend. He flies between them, interrupting their fight, and then destroys the terraformer.]] Don't worry, it resulted in an EarnYourHappyEnding.
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* SuperweaponSurprise: [[spoiler: The Terrians' past fighters and tanks. Subverted in that they're unable to put up more than a token resistance even with them, them due to being outnumbered. These are just enough for sympathetic humans to act.]]
* TakeAThirdOption: Twice. [[spoiler: Jim first is presented with the SadisticChoice between saving Mala or his brother, and chooses his brother. Then hemanages to save Mala by ordering orders Giddy to save her.Mala. Later, in the middle of the battle between human and terrian around the terraformer, he has to choose whether to rescue his brother or let Mala kill him for shooting down her friend. He flies between them, interrupting their fight, and then destroys the terraformer.]] Don't worry, it resulted in an EarnYourHappyEnding.
* TakeAThirdOption: Twice. [[spoiler: Jim first is presented with the SadisticChoice between saving Mala or his brother, and chooses his brother. Then he
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* AlienSky: Terra has two moons, and a ring system. The giant purple nebula that completely enshrouds the planet, can also been seen from Terra's surface at night.
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* AlienSky: Terra has two moons, and a ring system. The giant purple nebula that completely enshrouds the planet, planet can also been seen from Terra's surface at night.
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** This is the primary source of Jim's conflict throughout the film, stuck with the morality dilemma of saving either his people, who are dying, or the Terrians, who are innocent, and knowing that siding one will likely doom the other. He eventually chooses [[spoiler: to save [[TakeAThirdOption both]].]]
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** This is the primary source of Jim's conflict throughout the film, stuck with the morality moral dilemma of saving either his people, who are dying, or the Terrians, who are innocent, and knowing that siding with one will likely doom the other. He eventually chooses [[spoiler: to save [[TakeAThirdOption both]].]]
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* OutrunTheFireball: Both subverted and played straight. [[spoiler: When the terraformer goes boom, the fireball outruns Jim, who's flying a damaged fighter and is much closer, but his brother and Mala manage to barely escape it by virtue of having a greater lead]].
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* OutrunTheFireball: Both subverted and played straight. [[spoiler: When the terraformer goes boom, the fireball outruns Jim, who's flying a damaged fighter and is much closer, but his brother and Mala manage to barely escape it by virtue of having a greater lead]].lead and less damaged vehicles]].
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* FantasticallyChallengingPatient: {{Inverted}}. After human pilot Jim Stanton crashes his one-man craft on planet Terra, native alien Mala comes to check on him. Stanton is breathing with difficulty, since his air supply is almost exhausted, and he can't breathe the heavy Terran atmosphere. Mala has to cobble together an oxygen collector to keep Stanton alive.
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* MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness: Surprisingly hard, at about a [[Mohs/PhysicsPlus three]] or three-and-a-half. While Terrian society, wildlife, nature, and technology is full of unspecified phlebotinum, the human technology is portrayed very realistically. The ''Ark'' has CentrifugalGravity and shows some influence from a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotating_wheel_space_station von Braun wheel]], and the human fighters are not given an aerodynamic design like you would usually expect. While its speed and effects are considerably exaggerated for the sake of the plot and simplified by depicting it as a process generated by a single machine, terraforming is actually [[AluminumChristmasTrees very real science]] and the existence of colonies on Mars and Venus is appropriate since they [[ShownTheirWork are indeed]] considered to be the best candidates for terraforming of another planet.
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* CurbStompBattle: [[spoiler: Despite their superior weapons technology, the Terrian defense forces ultimately fail to hold off the numerically superior and far more experienced Earthforce fleet. A few days of TrainingThePeacefulVillagers after ''centuries'' of complete peace isn't going to cut it against a highly trained army, no matter how much better your weapons are.]]
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** [[spoiler: Despite their superior weapons technology, the Terrian defense forces ultimately fail to hold off the numerically superior and far more experienced Earthforce fleet. A few days of TrainingThePeacefulVillagers after ''centuries'' of complete peace isn't going to cut it against a highly trained army, no matter how much better your weapons are.]]
** [[spoiler: [[OutrunTheFireball Outrunning an explosion]] that you set off only meters away]] doesn't work in real life, as [[spoiler:Jim]] finds out.
** [[spoiler: Despite their superior weapons technology, the Terrian defense forces ultimately fail to hold off the numerically superior and far more experienced Earthforce fleet. A few days of TrainingThePeacefulVillagers after ''centuries'' of complete peace isn't going to cut it against a highly trained army, no matter how much better your weapons are.]]
** [[spoiler: [[OutrunTheFireball Outrunning an explosion]] that you set off only meters away]] doesn't work in real life, as [[spoiler:Jim]] finds out.
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* GreatOffscreenWar: [[spoiler: Two of them, actually.]] During the backstory, the colony planets Mars and Venus fought a war for independence against the Earth, which resulted in the destruction of all three planets and the near-extinction of humanity. [[spoiler: [[NotSoDifferent The Terrians nearly wiped themselves out as well]], which is why the elders are so paranoid about the development of any new technology.]]
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* GreatOffscreenWar: [[spoiler: Two of them, actually.]] During the backstory, the colony planets Mars and Venus fought a war for independence against the Earth, which resulted in the destruction of all three planets and the near-extinction of humanity. [[spoiler: [[NotSoDifferent The Terrians nearly wiped themselves out as well]], well, which is why the elders are so paranoid about the development of any new technology.]]
* MirroringFactions: As Jim remarks on when he, Mala, and Giddy infiltrate the hidden bunker, the humans and Terrians are more alike than they thought, [[spoiler:since both species nearly drove themselves to extinction through war]].
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* NotSoDifferent: As Jim remarks on when he, Mala, and Giddy infiltrate the hidden bunker, the humans and Terrians are more alike than they thought, [[spoiler:since both species nearly drove themselves to extinction through war]].
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** This is the primary source of Jim's conflict throughout the film, stuck with the MoralDilemma of saving either his people, who are dying, or the Terrians, who are innocent, and knowing that siding one will likely doom the other. He eventually chooses [[spoiler: to save [[TakeAThirdOption both]].]]
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** This is the primary source of Jim's conflict throughout the film, stuck with the MoralDilemma morality dilemma of saving either his people, who are dying, or the Terrians, who are innocent, and knowing that siding one will likely doom the other. He eventually chooses [[spoiler: to save [[TakeAThirdOption both]].]]
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* GenocideDilemma: The primary source of Jim's conflict. After befriending Mala, he's forced with the extremely uncomfortable problem of siding with the Terrians, who are a completely innocent and fully sentient race just trying to defend their homeworld, or with his own people, who are essentially refugees fleeing from a planet that was destroyed long before any of them were born and have no time to look for another colony [[spoiler: because the ''Ark'' has only two months worth of breathable oxygen left]]. He ultimately chooses [[spoiler: [[TakeAThirdOption to save both.]]]]
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* MoralDilemma: The primary source of Jim's conflict. After befriending Mala, he's forced with the extremely uncomfortable problem of siding with the Terrians, who are a completely innocent and fully sentient race just trying to defend their homeworld, or with his own people, who are essentially refugees fleeing from a planet that was destroyed long before any of them were born and have no time to look for another colony [[spoiler: because the ''Ark'' has only two months worth of breathable oxygen left]]. He ultimately chooses [[spoiler: [[TakeAThirdOption to save both.]]]]
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* AmbiguousSituation: A minor example, but whether the refugees come from all three of the destroyed planets in their home system or just one is about unclear.
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* AmbiguousSituation: A minor example, but whether the refugees come from all three of the destroyed planets in their home system or just one is about unclear.
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* AnyoneCanDie: The death of [[spoiler: Mala's father]], probably predictable even for a PG-rated movie. The death of [[spoiler: [[TheHeroDies Jim Stanton]], on the other hand...]]]
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* AnyoneCanDie: The death of [[spoiler: Mala's father]], probably predictable even for a PG-rated movie. The death of [[spoiler: [[TheHeroDies Jim Stanton]], on the other hand...]]]]]
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* ExplosiveDecompression: When Giddy uses his cutting laser to breach a containment unit, the glass explodes and flies outward into the room, injuring the observers. This is an odd case as both sides were pressurized and the containment unit was being used to demonstrate the terraformer, so the two atmospheres should have been nearly identical.
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* OutrunTheFireball: Both subverted and played straight. [[spoiler: When the terraformer goes boom, the fireball outruns Jim, but his brother and Mala manage to barely escape it]].
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* OutrunTheFireball: Both subverted and played straight. [[spoiler: When the terraformer goes boom, the fireball outruns Jim, who's flying a damaged fighter and is much closer, but his brother and Mala manage to barely escape it]].it by virtue of having a greater lead]].
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* RayGun: [[spoiler: The Terrian aircraft and walkers utilize laser-like cannons, which are proved superior to the human's traditional ballistic weapons during the final battle. Said weapons, however, prevent the outnumbered Terrian force from being overwhelmed by their Earth's counterpart.]]
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* RayGun: [[spoiler: The Terrian aircraft and walkers utilize laser-like cannons, which are proved prove superior to the human's traditional ballistic weapons during the final battle. Said weapons, however, don't prevent the outnumbered Terrian force from being overwhelmed by their Earth's counterpart.far more numerous Earth counterparts.]]
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* RobotBuddy: Giddy accompanied Jim and shows loyalty to him when he’s in danger, but also some understanding and even empathy with Mala who is devestated to see her people hurting Giddy.
* SadisticChoice: When Hemmer forces Jim to [[spoiler: choose between saving Mala or his brother]]. Also doubles as a SecretTestOfCharacter, since [[spoiler:Jim's brother willingly went along with it to test Jim's loyalty]].
* SadisticChoice: When Hemmer forces Jim to [[spoiler: choose between saving Mala or his brother]]. Also doubles as a SecretTestOfCharacter, since [[spoiler:Jim's brother willingly went along with it to test Jim's loyalty]].
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* RobotBuddy: Giddy accompanied Jim and shows loyalty to him when he’s in danger, but also some understanding and even empathy with Mala who is devestated devastated to see her people hurting Giddy.
* SadisticChoice: When Hemmer forces Jim to[[spoiler: choose between saving [[spoiler:saving Mala or his brother]].brother]]. Jim ultimately chooses the latter with reluctance, [[spoiler:then orders Giddy to save Mala before she suffocates]]. Also doubles as a SecretTestOfCharacter, since [[spoiler:Jim's brother willingly went along with it to test Jim's loyalty]].
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* TakeAThirdOption: Twice. [[spoiler: Jim first is presented with the SadisticChoice between saving Mala or his brother, and chooses his brother. Then he manages to save Mala by ordering Giddy to save her. Later, in the middle of the battle between human and terrian around the terraformer, he has to choose whether to rescue his brother or let Mala kill him for shooting down her friend. He flies between them, interrupting their fight, and then destroys the terraformer.]] Don't worry, it resulted in an EarnYourHappyEnding.
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* TakeAThirdOption: Twice. [[spoiler: Jim first is presented with the SadisticChoice between saving Mala or his brother, and chooses his brother. Then he manages to save Mala by ordering Giddy to save her. Later, in the middle of the battle between human and terrian around the terraformer, he has to choose whether to rescue his brother or let Mala kill him for shooting down her friend. He flies between them, interrupting their fight, and then destroys the terraformer.]] Don't worry, it resulted in an EarnYourHappyEnding.
* UncertainDoom: General Hemners terraforming operators are seen running from the control room before the kanikazie attack hits it but given the size of the explosion it’s doubtful (although not impossible) they could have gotten clear in time.
* UncertainDoom: General Hemners terraforming operators are seen running from the control room before the kanikazie attack hits it but given the size of the explosion it’s doubtful (although not impossible) they could have gotten clear in time.
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* AnyoneCanDie: The death of [[spoiler: Mala's father]], probably predictable even for a PG-rated movie. The death of [[TheHeroDies Jim Stanton]]]]...
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* AnyoneCanDie: The death of [[spoiler: Mala's father]], probably predictable even for a PG-rated movie. The death of [[spoiler: [[TheHeroDies Jim Stanton]]]]...Stanton]], on the other hand...]]]
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According to the wikipedia page Senn turns up alive at the end.
* AlliterativeName: Maria Montez, the second in command of the council.
* AmbiguousSituation: A minor example, but whether the refugees come from all three of the destroyed planets in their home system or just one is about unclear.
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* AnyoneCanDie: The death of [[spoiler: Mala's father]], probably predictable even for a PG-rated movie. The deaths of [[spoiler: Senn and [[TheHeroDies Jim Stanton]]]]...
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* AnyoneCanDie: The death of [[spoiler: Mala's father]], probably predictable even for a PG-rated movie. The deaths death of [[spoiler: Senn and [[TheHeroDies Jim Stanton]]]]...
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* GreyAndGrayMorality: No one in this film is evil; the Terrians' ShadowDictator is well meaning and kind, and most of the humans don't want to invade, but see no other option [[spoiler: as their ship will fail in about two months]], which is why the villain is so willing to do whatever it takes. Moreover, despite appearing like a textbook example of PerfectPacifistPeople at first, the Terrans themselves [[spoiler: have a long history of warfare]], and when the humans invade they don't hesitate [[spoiler: to whip out their stockpiled weaponry and fight back.]] The protagonists do some questionable things as well. Jim's brother is still presented as a sympathetic character despite [[spoiler: killing Mala's friend Senn]], and while he definitely had good reasons for doing so, Jim does eventually [[spoiler:''mutiny and kill not only his own commanding officer'', but everyone else who was onboard the terraformer, at least some of whom we can assume were just good, if conflicted, people like Jim and his brother.]]
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* GreyAndGrayMorality: No one in this film is evil; the Terrians' ShadowDictator is well meaning and kind, and most of the humans don't want to invade, but see no other option [[spoiler: as their ship will fail in about two months]], which is why the villain is so willing to do whatever it takes. Moreover, despite appearing like a textbook example of PerfectPacifistPeople at first, the Terrans themselves [[spoiler: have a long history of warfare]], and when the humans invade they don't hesitate [[spoiler: to whip out their stockpiled weaponry and fight back.]] The protagonists do some questionable things as well. Jim's brother is still presented as a sympathetic character despite [[spoiler: almost killing Mala's friend Senn]], Senn and only failing due to random luck]], and while he definitely had good reasons for doing so, Jim does eventually [[spoiler:''mutiny and kill not only his own commanding officer'', but everyone else who was onboard the terraformer, at least some of whom we can assume were just good, if conflicted, people like Jim and his brother.]]
* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler: Jim’s brother is shown making peace with the Terrans at the end.]]
* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler: Jim’s brother is shown making peace with the Terrans at the end.]]
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* RobotBuddy: Giddy.
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* UncertainDoom: General Hemners terraforming operators are seen running from the control room before the kanikazie attack hits it but given the size of the explosion it’s doubtful (although not impossible) they could have gotten clear in time.
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* EtherealChoir: The main theme "Life on Terra & First strike" features this, the use of which perfectly encapsulates the otherworldly beauty of the planet Terra.
* PlanetTerra: A subversion. Terra here is an alien planet named so by the humans fleeing the destroyed Earth. Its real name is unknown.
*RayGun: [[spoiler: The Terrian aircraft and walkers utilize laser-like cannons, which are proved superior to the human's traditional ballistic weapons during the final battle. Said weapons, however, prevent the outnumbered Terrian force from being overwhelmed by their Earth's counterpart.]]
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* PlanetTerra: A subversion. Terra here is an alien planet named so by the humans fleeing the destroyed Earth. Its real name is unknown.
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* LiteraryAgentHypothesis: In the beginning of the film we are introduced to aliens... that surprisingly speak English. Later on, one of the aliens meets an English-speaking human, at which point we realize that they actually ''can't'' understand each other. Obviously, the aliens are speaking their own language, and the filmmakers just gave it to us in English to [[TranslationConvention make it easier to understand]]. Though it leads to a bit of confusion the first time the alien and human meet when one realizes that their first few lines (both of which we hear in English) are actually in different languages. In the DVD Commentary, the Director/Writer says he had originally intended to do something akin to ''Film/TheHuntForRedOctober'' but many people found it more confusing than the way it ended up.
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* AcceptableBreaksFromReality: The film has several cases of what may pass in a film aimed for children/family, but not so as this is very much aimed at the Sci-Fi Fans or Star Wars Teens.
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* AcceptableBreaksFromReality: The film has several cases of what may pass in a film aimed for children/family, but not so as this is very much aimed at the Sci-Fi Fans or Star Wars ''Franchise/StarWars'' Teens.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: One of the shots inside the Elder's airship [[spoiler:shows a digital display on the wall, well beyond the tech level displayed at that point]].
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-->'''Hemmer:''' Tired of watching comrades die for nothing? We've come a long way, Terra is our prize. A jewel hanging in space. It has real water, not that chemical junk, and ground. God, I'd like to feel steady ground under my feet one day. Kids born on the ''Ark'' have never seen a blade of grass, or heard a bird sing.
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The planet Terra is [[SugarBowl home to a race of peaceful, floating aliens who celebrate life and live in harmony with nature]], but everything is not as [[TownWithADarkSecret cheerful as it seems]]. Mala (Evan Rachel Wood) is a [[GadgeteerGenius mechanically gifted]] and [[HotBlooded rebellious]] girl who questions their society's restriction on science and the ForbiddenZone. After [[TotalEclipseOfThePlot an ominous eclipse]], space ships descend and abduct several of the Terrians who mistake them for gods; among the abducted is Mala's father (Creator/DennisQuaid). This prompts her to try getting abducted herself, leading to a dangerous chase as she catches the attention of Lt. Jim Stanton (Creator/LukeWilson). After a harrowing pursuit, she outmaneuvers him into a [[GeoEffects wind tunnel]] and his ship crashes.
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The planet Terra is [[SugarBowl home to a race of peaceful, floating aliens who celebrate life and live in harmony with nature]], but everything is not as [[TownWithADarkSecret cheerful as it seems]]. Mala (Evan Rachel Wood) (Creator/EvanRachelWood) is a [[GadgeteerGenius mechanically gifted]] and [[HotBlooded rebellious]] girl who questions their society's restriction on science and the ForbiddenZone. After [[TotalEclipseOfThePlot an ominous eclipse]], space ships descend and abduct several of the Terrians who mistake them for gods; among the abducted is Mala's father (Creator/DennisQuaid). This prompts her to try getting abducted herself, leading to a dangerous chase as she catches the attention of Lt. Jim Stanton (Creator/LukeWilson). After a harrowing pursuit, she outmaneuvers him into a [[GeoEffects wind tunnel]] and his ship crashes.