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* NamesTheSame: PlayedForLaughs when describing the real vs. fictional bands known as [[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/290/ The Misfits.]][[invoked]]

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* ILoveNuclearPower: One story involves a radioactive skunk spraying Fletcher in the eyes with radioactive skunk juice, blinding him but giving him superhuman senses and leads to him embarking on a career as a crimefighter. Well, mostly fighting the post-Trent Reznor ''Misfits'', but still! [[spoiler: Except he was never blinded at all, he just couldn't see because of the bandages over his eyes, and it's left ambigious wether he had powers at all]]


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* RadiationInducedSuperpowers: One story involves a radioactive skunk spraying Fletcher in the eyes with radioactive skunk juice, blinding him but giving him superhuman senses and leads to him embarking on a career as a crime-fighter. Well, mostly fighting the post-Trent Reznor ''Misfits'', but still! [[spoiler: Except he was never blinded at all, he just couldn't see because of the bandages over his eyes, and it's left ambiguous whether he had powers at all.]]
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* BaldOfAwesome / BaldOfEvil: Depending on the strip, Fletcher can be either.

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%% * BaldOfAwesome / BaldOfEvil: Depending on the strip, Fletcher can be either.
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* RealityEnsues: After Fletcher beats up Phillip for making fun of him for crying over striking out with a girl, he ends up in court for assault.
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* BurgerFool: Fletcher works as at Burger World, where he's fired from in the first appearance for insulting a customers mullet hair, but still works there later.

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* BurgerFool: Fletcher works as at Burger World, where he's fired from in the first appearance for insulting a customers customer's mullet hair, but still works there later.



* HatePlague: The "Law And Order" arc reveals that Phillip, the resident emo, suffers from something called "Whiny Bitch" phermones, which makes it impossible for anyone not to beat the shit out of him, as discovered when Fletcher ends up in court for assaulting him, and the judge and ''his own lawyer'' cant resist attacking him either. The authorities end up tossing him in solitary confinment to keep him out of peoples hair.
* ILoveNuclearPower: One story involes a radioactive skunk spraying Fletcher in the eyes with radioactive skunk juice, blinding him but giving him superhuman senses and leads to him embarking on a career as a crimefighter. Well, mostly fighting the post-Trent Reznor ''Misfits'', but still! [[spoiler: Except he was never blinded at all, he just couldnt see because of the bandages over his eyes, and it's left ambigious wether he had powers at all]]

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* HatePlague: The "Law And Order" arc reveals that Phillip, the resident emo, suffers from something called "Whiny Bitch" phermones, pheromones, which makes it impossible for anyone not to beat the shit out of him, as discovered when Fletcher ends up in court for assaulting him, and the judge and ''his own lawyer'' cant can't resist attacking him either. The authorities end up tossing him in solitary confinment confinement to keep him out of peoples people's hair.
* ILoveNuclearPower: One story involes involves a radioactive skunk spraying Fletcher in the eyes with radioactive skunk juice, blinding him but giving him superhuman senses and leads to him embarking on a career as a crimefighter. Well, mostly fighting the post-Trent Reznor ''Misfits'', but still! [[spoiler: Except he was never blinded at all, he just couldnt couldn't see because of the bandages over his eyes, and it's left ambigious wether he had powers at all]]



* OnlySaneMan: While not COMPLETELY above the strips idiocy, Blake plays this role, and is pretty much the only reason Fletcher hasnt gotten himself killed yet.

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* OnlySaneMan: While not COMPLETELY above the strips strip's idiocy, Blake plays this role, and is pretty much the only reason Fletcher hasnt hasn't gotten himself killed yet.



--> '''Fletcher''': I'm just so bored with the state of punk rock today. I should start something. Like a zine maybe. No - - a band! I'll start a band.

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--> '''Fletcher''': I'm just so bored with the state of punk rock today. I should start something. Like a zine maybe. No - - -- a band! I'll start a band.



-->'''Fletcher''': ...uh - - okay. So band it is then.

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-->'''Fletcher''': ...uh - - -- okay. So band it is then.



* SmallReferencePools: If you arent into the punk scene, you're going to have one ''hell'' of a time getting some jokes.
* SmokingIsCool / SmokingIsNotCool: Fletcher begins to smoke to give himself more punk cred. The strip itself doesnt pull any punches about what an idiot he's being.

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* SmallReferencePools: If you arent aren't into the punk scene, you're going to have one ''hell'' of a time getting some jokes.
* SmokingIsCool / SmokingIsNotCool: Fletcher begins to smoke to give himself more punk cred. The strip itself doesnt doesn't pull any punches about what an idiot he's being.

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* LesYay: Parodied with Alice and Karen. Karen originally started a relationship with Alice for the sole purpose of establishing a strong lesbian base in the punk rock scene, but the relationship later blossomed into a permanent and solid romantic partnership (aside from a brief story where MoralGuardians forced them to break up to make the strip palatable to syndicated newspapers).

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* LesYay: Parodied with Alice and Karen. Karen originally started a relationship with Alice for the sole purpose of establishing a strong lesbian base in the punk rock scene, but the relationship later blossomed into a permanent and solid romantic partnership (aside from a brief story where MoralGuardians forced them to break up to make the strip palatable to syndicated newspapers).[[invoked]]



* NamesTheSame: PlayedForLaughs when describing the real vs. fictional bands known as [[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/290/ The Misfits.]]

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* NamesTheSame: PlayedForLaughs when describing the real vs. fictional bands known as [[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/290/ The Misfits.]]]][[invoked]]



* RealityEnsues: After Fletcher beats up Phillip for making fun of him for crying over striking out with a girl, he ends up in court for assault.



* RealityEnsues: After Fletcher beats up Phillip for making fun of him for crying over striking out with a girl, he ends up in court for assault.
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* RealityEnsus: After Fletcher beats up Phillip for making fun of him for crying over striking out with a girl, he ends up in court for assault.

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* RealityEnsus: RealityEnsues: After Fletcher beats up Phillip for making fun of him for crying over striking out with a girl, he ends up in court for assault.
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Hilarious In Hindsight is YMMV and doesn't go on the work page anyway. Also: this example violates Wiki policy on troping RL individuals and ROCEJ; thread here


* HilariousInHindsight: One 2002 strip complains about George Bush losing the popular vote but winning the electorate vote, and launching the invasion of Afghanistan without Congress approval, as well as social problems following the election. After the 2016 victory of DonaldTrump, this strip seems postiviely quiant.
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* BaldOfAwesome / BaldOfEvil: Depending on the strip, Fletcher can be either.


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* BurgerFool: Fletcher works as at Burger World, where he's fired from in the first appearance for insulting a customers mullet hair, but still works there later.


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* HatePlague: The "Law And Order" arc reveals that Phillip, the resident emo, suffers from something called "Whiny Bitch" phermones, which makes it impossible for anyone not to beat the shit out of him, as discovered when Fletcher ends up in court for assaulting him, and the judge and ''his own lawyer'' cant resist attacking him either. The authorities end up tossing him in solitary confinment to keep him out of peoples hair.
* HilariousInHindsight: One 2002 strip complains about George Bush losing the popular vote but winning the electorate vote, and launching the invasion of Afghanistan without Congress approval, as well as social problems following the election. After the 2016 victory of DonaldTrump, this strip seems postiviely quiant.
* ILoveNuclearPower: One story involes a radioactive skunk spraying Fletcher in the eyes with radioactive skunk juice, blinding him but giving him superhuman senses and leads to him embarking on a career as a crimefighter. Well, mostly fighting the post-Trent Reznor ''Misfits'', but still! [[spoiler: Except he was never blinded at all, he just couldnt see because of the bandages over his eyes, and it's left ambigious wether he had powers at all]]
* LesYay: Parodied with Alice and Karen. Karen originally started a relationship with Alice for the sole purpose of establishing a strong lesbian base in the punk rock scene, but the relationship later blossomed into a permanent and solid romantic partnership (aside from a brief story where MoralGuardians forced them to break up to make the strip palatable to syndicated newspapers).


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* NakedPeopleAreFunny: [[https://web.archive.org/web/20120321043146/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/109/ Karen in this strip]] where she "dresses up" as Lillith for Halloween.


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* OnlySaneMan: While not COMPLETELY above the strips idiocy, Blake plays this role, and is pretty much the only reason Fletcher hasnt gotten himself killed yet.


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* SeriousBusiness: Parodied, the comic loves poking fun at how seriously punk fans takes the scene.
* SmallReferencePools: If you arent into the punk scene, you're going to have one ''hell'' of a time getting some jokes.
* SmokingIsCool / SmokingIsNotCool: Fletcher begins to smoke to give himself more punk cred. The strip itself doesnt pull any punches about what an idiot he's being.


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* RealityEnsus: After Fletcher beats up Phillip for making fun of him for crying over striking out with a girl, he ends up in court for assault.
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''Nothing Nice to Say'' (or [=NN2S=] as it is often shortened to) is a webcomic about PunkRock by Mitch Clem. It's mostly gag-based, but has a few brief storylines, including a parody of superhero comics that involves Glenn {{Danzig}}, the formation of a bike punk gang and the "selling out" of the strip's artist.

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''Nothing Nice to Say'' (or [=NN2S=] as it is often shortened to) is a webcomic about PunkRock by Mitch Clem. It's mostly gag-based, but has a few brief storylines, including a parody of superhero comics that involves Glenn {{Danzig}}, Music/{{Danzig}}, the formation of a bike punk gang and the "selling out" of the strip's artist.
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The first book collecting the strips in paper form will be out on October 15, 2008.

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The first book collecting the strips in paper form will be out was released on October 15, 2008.
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[[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/ You can read it here]]. [[http://www.mitchclem.com/ Mitch Clem's Web site, with links to his other comics, can be found here]].

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[[http://www.The website is no longer online, but thanks to the Internet Archive, [[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/ You you can read it here]]. [[http://www.here]], as well as [[https://web.archive.org/web/20140313063314/http://www.mitchclem.com/ Mitch Clem's Web site, with links to his other comics, can be found here]].
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* AnimalWrongsGroup: Preachy veganism is often mocked in the strip. Here's one of the [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/17/ earliest examples.]]
* ArtShift: Since the relaunch in fall 2011, the characters have become far less boxy and more fluid-looking. Compare [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/318/ this]] to [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/539/ this]]
* BigOlEyebrows: There's a minor [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/28/ running]] [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/225/ gag]] involving Blake's eyebrows.
* FakeCrossOver: [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/439/ The Doctor]] shows up in a strip!
* GirlOnGirlIsHot: Averted (and also serving as a TakeThat to misogynistic fans) in [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/243/ this strip.]]

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* AnimalWrongsGroup: Preachy veganism is often mocked in the strip. Here's one of the [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/17/ earliest examples.]]
* ArtShift: Since the relaunch in fall 2011, the characters have become far less boxy and more fluid-looking. Compare [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/318/ this]] to [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/539/ this]]
* BigOlEyebrows: There's a minor [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/28/ running]] [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/225/ gag]] involving Blake's eyebrows.
* FakeCrossOver: [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/439/ The Doctor]] shows up in a strip!
* GirlOnGirlIsHot: Averted (and also serving as a TakeThat to misogynistic fans) in [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/243/ this strip.]]



* TheManIsStickingItToTheMan: [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/49/ Played straight]] in an early strip, then [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/494/ lampshaded]] more recently.
* NamesTheSame: PlayedForLaughs when describing the real vs. fictional bands known as [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/290/ The Misfits.]]

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* TheManIsStickingItToTheMan: [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/49/ Played straight]] in an early strip, then [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/494/ lampshaded]] more recently.
* NamesTheSame: PlayedForLaughs when describing the real vs. fictional bands known as [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/290/ The Misfits.]]



* SelfDeprecation: [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/19/ A Band, Part 1]]

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* SelfDeprecation: [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/19/ A Band, Part 1]]



* SmugStraightEdge: Bort the lapsed Straight Edge hasn't abandoned two parts of the straight edge lifestyle; [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/120/ taking himself too seriously and beating people up]].

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* SmugStraightEdge: Bort the lapsed Straight Edge hasn't abandoned two parts of the straight edge lifestyle; [[http://www.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140102121504/http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/120/ taking himself too seriously and beating people up]].

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--> '''Fletcher''': I'm just so bored with the state of punk rock today. I should start something. Like a zine maybe. No - - a band! I'll start a band.



-->'''Fletcher''': ...uh--okay. So band it is then.

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-->'''Fletcher''': ...uh--okay.uh - - okay. So band it is then.
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* SelfDeprecation: A Band, Part 1

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* SelfDeprecation: [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/19/ A Band, Part 11]]
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* SelfDeprecation: A Band, Part 1
--> '''Blake''': I know, you could start a comic strip! You'll make fun of people more successful than you and draw funny pictures of emo kids and the like.
-->'''Fletcher''': ...uh--okay. So band it is then.
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* GirlOnGirlIsHot: Averted brilliantly (and also serving as a TakeThat to misogynistic fans) in [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/243/ this strip.]]

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* GirlOnGirlIsHot: Averted brilliantly (and also serving as a TakeThat to misogynistic fans) in [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/243/ this strip.]]
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* BigOlEyebrows: There's a minor [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/28/ running]] [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/225/ gag]] involving Fletcher's eyebrows.

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* BigOlEyebrows: There's a minor [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/28/ running]] [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/225/ gag]] involving Fletcher's Blake's eyebrows.
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* Fletcher - A crazy bald TedBaxter type, Blake's best friend. Blake and Fletcher together are the main characters.

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* Fletcher - A crazy bald TedBaxter type, SmallNameBigEgo, Blake's best friend. Blake and Fletcher together are the main characters.
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* TheManIsStickingItToTheMan: [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/49/ Played straight]] in an early strip, then [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/494/ lampshaded]] more recently.
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* TakeThat: ''Extremely'' common in [=NN2S=], happening in practically every other strip; see the numerous "I Hate The ____" strip titles.

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* AnimalWrongsGroup: Preachy veganism is often mocked in the strip. Here's one of the [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/17/ earliest examples.]]



* StrawHypocrite: ''Extremely'' common in [=NN2S=]. One of the earliest examples is [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/17/ here]], featuring Chris/Charlie as a member of an AnimalWrongsGroup.
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* StrawHypocrite: ''Extremely'' common in NN2S. One of the earliest examples is [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/17/ here]], featuring Chris/Charlie as a member of an AnimalWrongsGroup.

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* StrawHypocrite: ''Extremely'' common in NN2S.[=NN2S=]. One of the earliest examples is [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/17/ here]], featuring Chris/Charlie as a member of an AnimalWrongsGroup.
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* StrawHypocrite: ''Extremely'' common in NN2S. One of the earliest examples is [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/17/ here]], featuring Chris/Charlie as a member of an AnimalWrongsGroup.
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* NamesTheSame: PlayedForLaughs when describing the real vs. fictional bands known as [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/290/ The Misfits.]]
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* ArtShift: Since the relaunch in fall 2011, the characters have become far less boxy and more fluid-looking. Compare [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/318/ this]] to [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/539/ this]]


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* FakeCrossOver: [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/439/ The Doctor]] shows up in a strip!
* GirlOnGirlIsHot: Averted brilliantly (and also serving as a TakeThat to misogynistic fans) in [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/243/ this strip.]]
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''Nothing Nice to Say'' (or [=NN2S=] as it is often shortened to) is a webcomic about PunkRock by Mitch Clem. It's mostly gag-based, but has a few brief storylines, including a parody of superhero comics that involves Glenn {{Danzig}}, the formation of a bike punk gang and the "selling out" of the strip's artist.

The characters include:
* Blake - Often the OnlySaneMan and AuthorAvatar, named after Blake Schwarzenbach from the band Jawbreaker. Expect a lot of LampshadeHanging over the bizarre size of his eyebrows.
* Fletcher - A crazy bald TedBaxter type, Blake's best friend. Blake and Fletcher together are the main characters.
* Alice - A PerkyGoth who goes out with Karen.
* Karen - An overly serious Riot Grrrl who starts dating Alice to get attention for her feminist agenda, but actually develops feelings for her. Although initially something of a StrawFeminist, Karen later becomes a harbinger of common sense.
* Chris/Charlie - A vegan guy with a mohawk who appears whenever a spare character is needed. His name is disputed. The most conventionally "punk" looking.
* Phillip - An [[EmoTeen emo kid]] who turns down dates on Valentine's Day so that he has something to complain about and draws on his sideburns in pencil.

The first book collecting the strips in paper form will be out on October 15, 2008.

[[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/ You can read it here]]. [[http://www.mitchclem.com/ Mitch Clem's Web site, with links to his other comics, can be found here]].
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* AllTheGoodMenAreGay: Fletcher actively attacks this trope in one strip, when a woman at a bar utters it practically word for word. His response? "You mean, why are the only guys you find non-threatening the ones with no possible ulterior motives to sleep with you? Yeah, the mind boggles." Fletcher is, perhaps rather obviously, far from the best counterexample to trope...
* BigOlEyebrows: There's a minor [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/28/ running]] [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/225/ gag]] involving Fletcher's eyebrows.
* AGoodNameForARockBand: The Negative Adjectives.
* NewFirstComics: The earliest comics have been redrawn, but this is due to the originals being in a file format that prevents them from being usable for the upcoming book. The original first strips are still online so anyone can see the ArtEvolution if they want.
* SmugStraightEdge: Bort the lapsed Straight Edge hasn't abandoned two parts of the straight edge lifestyle; [[http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/120/ taking himself too seriously and beating people up]].
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