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After all the scheming and bullshit that Rachel pulls off in order to make it to the top of the Tower, something will keep her from truly reaching it in the end. What ever happens, she's going to get pushed back down to the bottom of the Tower. Perhaps it will be Bam that pushes her. It would make for a poetic ending to Rachel that bookends the series. It started with Rachel pushing Bam right away as their journey was about to begin, and it will end with Rachel getting pushed away by Bam right as the journey's about to end.

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After all the scheming and bullshit that Rachel pulls off in order to make it to the top of the Tower, something will keep her from truly reaching it in the end. What ever happens, she's going to get pushed back down to the bottom of the Tower. Perhaps it will be Bam that pushes her. It would make for a poetic ending to Rachel that bookends the series. It started with Rachel pushing Bam right away as their journey was about to begin, and it will end with Rachel getting pushed away by Bam right as the journey's about to end.end.

[[WMG: The fire Sweetfish that Khun obtains at the start of Season 3 is the same Sweetfish from the Dallar Show.]]
It will turn out that the Sweetfish that bonded with Khun during the Dallar Show didn't end up dying to Pedro's boiling acid trap. It instead absorbed the burning acid, and went through an evolution.
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** [[spoiler: Later confirmed without a doubt when Gustang confronts Traumerei, although it isn't entirely out of revenge. While he ''is'' upset by how Jahad sealed away Enne, his main motive is out of disillusionment over the stagnancy of the Great Warriors.]]
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[[WMG: The Tower is [[WebOriginal/OrionsArm a virchworld]]]]

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[[WMG: The Tower is [[WebOriginal/OrionsArm [[Website/OrionsArm a virchworld]]]]
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It would be poetic ending to Rachel that bookends the series. After all the scheming and bullshit that Rachel pulls off in order to make it to the top of the Tower, something will keep her from truly reaching it in the end. What ever happens, she's going to get pushed back down to the bottom of the Tower. Perhaps it will be Bam that pushes her. It started with Rachel pushing Bam right away as their journey was about to begin, and it will end with Rachel getting pushed away by Bam right as the journey's about to end.

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It would be poetic ending to Rachel that bookends the series. After all the scheming and bullshit that Rachel pulls off in order to make it to the top of the Tower, something will keep her from truly reaching it in the end. What ever happens, she's going to get pushed back down to the bottom of the Tower. Perhaps it will be Bam that pushes her. It would make for a poetic ending to Rachel that bookends the series. It started with Rachel pushing Bam right away as their journey was about to begin, and it will end with Rachel getting pushed away by Bam right as the journey's about to end.
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*** Not only that, we have to remember Rachel's words. As much of a Jerkass as she is, she said at one point that she couldn't bear to live in the Outside anymore. So we have at least one Irregular who hates the Outside. Maybe she doesn't know exactly what's on the top of the Tower. Perhaps this may get to be karma for her later on, as she tries to escape her home by going into the Tower and then climbing to get glory, only to be slapped with the reality that she is in fact trying to return to the home she hates so much.

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*** Not only that, we have to remember Rachel's words. As much of a Jerkass as she is, she said at one point that she couldn't bear to live in the Outside anymore. So we have at least one Irregular who hates the Outside. Maybe she doesn't know exactly what's on the top of the Tower. Perhaps this may get to be karma for her later on, as she tries to escape her home by going into the Tower and then climbing to get glory, only to be slapped with the reality that she is in fact trying to return to the home she hates so much.much.

[[WMG: Rachel is going to get close to achieving her goal of seeing the starry sky at the top of the Tower, but will get pushed away at the last second.]]
It would be poetic ending to Rachel that bookends the series. After all the scheming and bullshit that Rachel pulls off in order to make it to the top of the Tower, something will keep her from truly reaching it in the end. What ever happens, she's going to get pushed back down to the bottom of the Tower. Perhaps it will be Bam that pushes her. It started with Rachel pushing Bam right away as their journey was about to begin, and it will end with Rachel getting pushed away by Bam right as the journey's about to end.
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** Well, arguably, as Jahad's contractual immortality apparently doesn't apply to any Irregulars, if she were to... [[IsThatWhatTheyreCallingItNow have her contract violated]] by an irregular, she is still technically a virgin as she's never gotten frisky with anybody the Tower recognizes as a person.

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** Well, arguably, as Jahad's contractual immortality apparently doesn't apply to any Irregulars, if she were to... [[IsThatWhatTheyreCallingItNow [[SexualEuphemism have her contract violated]] by an irregular, she is still technically a virgin as she's never gotten frisky with anybody the Tower recognizes as a person.
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Given that the two are at least half-brothers, Karaka may start teaching Wangnan how to harness the power in their blood.

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Given that the two are at least half-brothers, Karaka may start teaching Wangnan how to harness the power in their blood.blood.

[[WMG: There is a reason why Jahad locked the 135th Floor.]]
Think about it. Even if Jahad did become corrupted and we all know that Jahad turned out to be EvilAllAlong, we know little about what happened that really made him change like that. It's possible there is something serious up with the 135th Floor and Jahad knows about it and that's why he's keeping it sealed for a reason. And since Jahad seems to be on the side of UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans, maybe what is on the 135th Floor is actually a threat to the entire existence of the Tower and that's why Jahad goes as far as he did to ensure the Key of the Tower doesn't get reassambled.

* To support this theory, at one point Jahad stated that he acquired his fate-manipulation powers on a certain day. What if it was when Jahad was about to continue climbing only to then be stopped by the Tower giving him visions of what would happen if he completes the 135th Floor? It would make sense, since Jahad is the only Irregular around who can actually control fate as he did. From what we've seen, Bam does have the ability to alter fate and destiny, but he does so subconciously and he definitely can't see fate. The fact that Jahad can both see and control fate and to an entirely different level than other Seers around definitely indicates the Tower gave Jahad that power for a very strong reason and that reason could very well be to stop him from presumably dooming the Tower by unlocking whatever horror lies on the 135th Floor.
* A decent idea would be that completing the 135th Floor ends the Tower itself and sends everyone on it to the Outside. Since the people of the Tower know absolutely nothing about the Outside, and we also don't know whether or not the Outside would be better than the Tower, maybe Zahard knows that it's too dangerous to take everyone in the Tower out into a world they know so little about.
** It's quite possible, in fact, that the Outside could be an even worse of a CrapsackWorld than the Tower. If we think about it, the Irregulars that entered the Tower all quickly displayed incredible strength. But what if that isn't just because they were special? What if the Outside is actually a world full of conflict and strife? What if the Irregulars that entered the Tower HAD to be powerful to survive? If even the Irregulars had a rough life on the Outside, then how would the people of the Tower, who had little understanding of the Outside and tend to be much less powerful than Irregulars, fare on the Outside?
*** While Urek, another Irregular, has shown to strongly desire to return the Outside and leave the Tower, don't forget that he came in far later on after the Original Irregulars had settled on the Tower. So maybe the conflicts on the Outside may have diminished so Urek could live a decent life, but at the same time, we also know fully well just how powerful Urek is. Maybe the conflicts haven't fully settled down and Urek was also trained and had to be powerful to survive.
*** A noteworthy apparent support of this theory is that when Urek came to ask Gustang about how to leave the Tower, whatever happened between them made Urek gave up on the idea and even said he would rather dig his way out with a spoon than ask him anything again. It's quite possible that the Original Irregulars, such as Gustang, doesn't like the Outside, as they can clearly stand to be apart from it, and want nothing to do with it and Gustang probably shoved this straight into Urek's face, which would have most likely greatly annoyed and irritated him.
*** Not only that, we have to remember Rachel's words. As much of a Jerkass as she is, she said at one point that she couldn't bear to live in the Outside anymore. So we have at least one Irregular who hates the Outside. Maybe she doesn't know exactly what's on the top of the Tower. Perhaps this may get to be karma for her later on, as she tries to escape her home by going into the Tower and then climbing to get glory, only to be slapped with the reality that she is in fact trying to return to the home she hates so much.
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** Jossed. Violie IS Bam, Wagnan is not a powerless, backstabbing douche - he's actually quite clever, manipulating Viole/Bam into passing the entire team.

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** Jossed. Violie IS Bam, Wagnan Wangnan is not a powerless, backstabbing douche - he's actually quite clever, manipulating Viole/Bam into passing the entire team.



[[WMG: Karaka will eventually start teaching Wagnan.]]
Both are heavily implied to be sons of Jahad, and given how similar Young Jahad is in appearance to Wagnan, it is highly likely that Karaka also resembles Jahad under his armor.

Given that the two are at least half-brothers, Karaka may start teaching Wagnan how to harness the power in their blood.

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[[WMG: Karaka will eventually start teaching Wagnan.Wangnan.]]
Both are heavily implied to be sons of Jahad, and given how similar Young Jahad is in appearance to Wagnan, Wangnan, it is highly likely that Karaka also resembles Jahad under his armor.

Given that the two are at least half-brothers, Karaka may start teaching Wagnan Wangnan how to harness the power in their blood.

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[[spoiler: So Bam is V and Arlene’s dead baby revived by the Outside god to fulfil the prophecy that was agreed with Arlene. But his life is on loan. When Bam eventually fulfils this prophecy and kills Jahad and brings truth to the Tower, the Outside god is going to take that life back and Bam will be dead again.]]

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[[spoiler: So Bam is V and Arlene’s dead baby revived by the Outside god to fulfil the prophecy that was agreed with Arlene. But his life is on loan. When Bam eventually fulfils this prophecy and kills Jahad and brings truth to the Tower, the Outside god is going to take that life back and Bam will be dead again.]]]]

[[WMG: Karaka will eventually start teaching Wagnan.]]
Both are heavily implied to be sons of Jahad, and given how similar Young Jahad is in appearance to Wagnan, it is highly likely that Karaka also resembles Jahad under his armor.

Given that the two are at least half-brothers, Karaka may start teaching Wagnan how to harness the power in their blood.
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spoiler: So Bam is V and Arlene’s dead baby revived by the Outside god to fulfil the prophecy that was agreed with Arlene. But his life is on loan. When Bam eventually fulfils this prophecy and kills Jahad and brings truth to the Tower, the Outside god is going to take that life back and Bam will be dead again.

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spoiler: [[spoiler: So Bam is V and Arlene’s dead baby revived by the Outside god to fulfil the prophecy that was agreed with Arlene. But his life is on loan. When Bam eventually fulfils this prophecy and kills Jahad and brings truth to the Tower, the Outside god is going to take that life back and Bam will be dead again.]]
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She didn't find an exit, as in, physical point somewhere. She just wandered the Tower until she stumbled into Headon (or went to his floor directly) and either bluntly asked to let her out or just poured her heart until he decided this would be the best solution (possibly making another contract in the process). For Regulars it depends on terms of Jahad's contract, but at least all Irregulars also have this option available. Noone can figure it out, because Tower's culture encourages arrogance and overreliance on one's achievements, while it's actually ruled by will of Guardians, and Arlene in her depression recognized the similarities in being the plaything of fate and puppet of Guardians.

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She didn't find an exit, as in, physical point somewhere. She just wandered the Tower until she stumbled into Headon (or went to his floor directly) and either bluntly asked to let her out or just poured her heart until he decided this would be the best solution (possibly making another contract in the process). For Regulars it depends on terms of Jahad's contract, but at least all Irregulars also have this option available. Noone can figure it out, because Tower's culture encourages arrogance and overreliance on one's achievements, while it's actually ruled by will of Guardians, and Arlene in her depression recognized the similarities in being the plaything of fate and puppet of Guardians.Guardians.

[[WMG: Bam is destined to die]]
spoiler: So Bam is V and Arlene’s dead baby revived by the Outside god to fulfil the prophecy that was agreed with Arlene. But his life is on loan. When Bam eventually fulfils this prophecy and kills Jahad and brings truth to the Tower, the Outside god is going to take that life back and Bam will be dead again.
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* just wild here but it could be an interesting story how [[spoiler: Karaka]] went form being a prodigy unequaled in his family and a agent of Jahad to a [[spoiler:Slayer]] and what happened with kaiser and afterward would make a great StartOfDarkness.

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* just wild here but it could be an interesting story how [[spoiler: Karaka]] went form being a prodigy unequaled in his family and a agent of Jahad to a [[spoiler:Slayer]] and what happened with kaiser Kaiser and afterward would make a great StartOfDarkness.
** Almost certainly Jossed as Karaka is not a Lo Po Bia, but likely [[spoiler:directly related to Jahad himself by blood, similar to Wangnan.]]
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[[WMG: The tower is the same one from ''VideoGame/{{Makai Toshi SaGa}}''.]]

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[[WMG: The tower is the same one from ''VideoGame/{{Makai Toshi SaGa}}''.''VideoGame/TheFinalFantasyLegend''.]]
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* Building on the above. If nobody has ever reached the top of the tower, how do they know what's up there? The truth could be a lot less amazing than the legends make it out to be, or it could be a "the journey is important" thing. Or they could have to [[VideoGame/MakaiToshiSaGa beat up god for being such a jerk and setting up the tower in the first place.]]

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* Building on the above. If nobody has ever reached the top of the tower, how do they know what's up there? The truth could be a lot less amazing than the legends make it out to be, or it could be a "the journey is important" thing. Or they could have to [[VideoGame/MakaiToshiSaGa [[VideoGame/TheFinalFantasyLegend beat up god for being such a jerk and setting up the tower in the first place.]]
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*{{Right For The Wrong Reasons}}, no one can access the 135th Floor, but not due to irregular status, but rather due to Jahad being a prick. For the specifics, see the WMG answer below.
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* There are ''many'' things wrong with this theory. Firstly, for notion that Guardians are Axis is wrong on account of Enryu, who is not an Axis specifically by Word of God, managing to kill one, which would be impossible if they were Axis. Secondly on them being former Axis, ''how the Hell does one stop being an Axis?'' {{Author Powers}} aren't just something you can lose. Also, becoming an Axis isn't just something you can be granted by passing a test, according to what little info there is, any normal shmuck can become one via "Awakening." Also, why would ones evil nature prevent them from becoming an Axis? Also also, how did you jump from "Rachel wants to see the stars" to "Rachel wants infinite freedom"? Also also ''also'', what do irregulars have to do with Axis? Also also also '''also''', Bam was born (and then killed) way before Phanta's siege, so him getting "distracted" by Bam being born makes zero sense. In conclusion, it's a joke to say that this string of baseless guesses makes perfect sense, when it actually [[{{VoodooShark}} brings up more questions than it answers]]. Jossed.
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* Jossed on two levels; the blanks for the unnamed Tenth Family Head match up with that of Hendo Lok Bloodmadder, ''who's a guy'', and also Bam's backstory confirmed that he's not Jahad's kid in any capacity.

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* Jossed on two levels; the blanks for the unnamed Tenth Family Head match up with that of Hendo Lok Bloodmadder, ''who's a guy'', and also Bam's backstory confirmed that he's not Jahad's kid in any capacity.
capacity. Additionally, the right-bottom emblem in the Ten Family's logo-spread was that of the Ari Family (not to be confused with the Arie Family), and that "cross" is a sword.
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* ... [[spoiler: [[{{TheCuckoolanderWasRight}} Unbelievably]], this is actually Semi-Confirmed at the end of the Hidden Floor arc; after becoming King of the Tower and viewing things from the same height as a god, Jahad figured out how to manipulate ''Fate'', which is backed up by Khel Hellam in Season 3. Given that pure Time Travel itself isn't a thing in Talse Uzer, Jahad being able to alter future events makes him the closest thing you can get to a Time Lord in Tower of God. Not bad for a joke made in late 2012!]]
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*** Behold; the Top 5 strongest Axes in Talse Uzer! Cola, Pepsi, Pepper, Sprite, and Fanta!

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*** **** Behold; the Top 5 strongest Axes in Talse Uzer! Cola, Pepsi, Pepper, Sprite, and Fanta!
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*** Behold; the Top 5 strongest Axes in Talse Uzer! Cola, Pepsi, Pepper, Sprite, and Fanta!
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* Even after Jahad [[spoiler:wakes up as of the end of the Hidden Floor arc]], this WMG is still sorta-kinda true-ish but in an inverted sort of way. While Jahad's orders are typically sent out via alters, Adori Jahad is the only person who directly receives orders from the King himself.




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* Jossed; the unnamed Tenth Family Head is Hendo Lok Bloodmadder, and children from the Hendo Family have contractually shortened lifespans, typically only a 100 years. Meanwhile Adori possesses the oldest confirmed age in the series, at over ''5000 years''.
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**** Not important, this Troper just thinks referring to him as 'Phanta' is pretty funny.

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[[WMG: Jahad isn't even awake right now, and Midori Jahad is the one REALLY running the show.]]
We have yet to see Jahad on panel, and we actually have yet to even hear any direct orders from him. Usually by now (130 chapters in), almost every writer has at least given us a panel of the BigBad gloating or expressing concern about the hero (different WMG - he actually gave us a panel of PHANTAMINUM for that purpose). Midori Jahad is currently the highest-ranked Princess (8th in the Tower), and the head of the Royal Guard. Lo Po Bia Ren is a member of the Royal Guard, and subordinate to Midori Jahad, he was most likely acting on her orders. If Jahad is actually unconscious/asleep right now, it would explain why the FUG seems so cavalier about manipulating Bam to defeat the (debatably) 3rd most powerful person in the Tower. They don't need Bam to FIGHT Jahad when he's at his best, they just need an Irregular that is powerful enough to go up to his sleeping form and deliver the kill.

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[[WMG: Jahad isn't even awake right now, and Midori Adori Jahad is the one REALLY running the show.]]
We have yet to see Jahad on panel, and we actually have yet to even hear any direct orders from him. Usually by now (130 chapters in), almost every writer has at least given us a panel of the BigBad gloating or expressing concern about the hero (different WMG - he actually gave us a panel of PHANTAMINUM for that purpose). Midori Adori Jahad is currently the highest-ranked Princess (8th in the Tower), and the head of the Royal Guard. Lo Po Bia Ren is a member of the Royal Guard, and subordinate to Midori Adori Jahad, he was most likely acting on her orders. If Jahad is actually unconscious/asleep right now, it would explain why the FUG seems so cavalier about manipulating Bam to defeat the (debatably) 3rd most powerful person in the Tower. They don't need Bam to FIGHT Jahad when he's at his best, they just need an Irregular that is powerful enough to go up to his sleeping form and deliver the kill.



Similar in theory to my previous WMG above that Midori Jahad is actually the one running the Tower, this comes with 2 subtheories, that rely on the following premise: Jahad has been confirmed to be immortal to anybody but an Irregular through a contract with the Guardians. HOWEVER, as the various {{immortality}} tropes will tell you, 'immortality' doesn't necessarily come with infinite power/[[HealingFactor instant healing]]. My theory is that Jahad's immortality is actually [[BornAgainImmortality REINCARNATIVE immortality]], that is, when he dies/is killed, he is born again in a new body. The reason that his name is 'TWENTY-FIFTH Bam' (twenty-fifth night), is that this is, in fact, the TWENTY-FIFTH time this has happened - and each time, he climbs just a little higher in the Tower. (Would also explain Headon's smug grin when he first entered).

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Similar in theory to my previous WMG above that Midori Adori Jahad is actually the one running the Tower, this comes with 2 subtheories, that rely on the following premise: Jahad has been confirmed to be immortal to anybody but an Irregular through a contract with the Guardians. HOWEVER, as the various {{immortality}} tropes will tell you, 'immortality' doesn't necessarily come with infinite power/[[HealingFactor instant healing]]. My theory is that Jahad's immortality is actually [[BornAgainImmortality REINCARNATIVE immortality]], that is, when he dies/is killed, he is born again in a new body. The reason that his name is 'TWENTY-FIFTH Bam' (twenty-fifth night), is that this is, in fact, the TWENTY-FIFTH time this has happened - and each time, he climbs just a little higher in the Tower. (Would also explain Headon's smug grin when he first entered).



Surely he has to have ''some'' expertise in fighting after climbing thirty floors.

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Surely *Surely he has to have ''some'' expertise in fighting after climbing thirty floors.
**Well, given that he managed to fight against two other people at once during the Crown-Game- one of whom had a knife, it wasn't like he ''didn't'' have any fighting expertise, it's just that his teammates were [[{{OvershadowedByAwesome}} comparatively monstrous]].

**''Semi-Confirmed'' as of the Cage Arc humorously; he manages to get the jump on [[{{PlayingWithFire}} Quaetro]] with a "deadly kick."



*Almost certainly jossed; [[spoiler: he was revealed to be the son of two of Jahad's companions, Arlene and V, and every family head he's met since has called him either "Son of Arlene" or "Son of V", ''including Jahad himself.'']]



** [[spoiler:Double-jossed. His hatred to FUG is actually staged.]]

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** [[spoiler:Double-jossed. His hatred to FUG is actually staged.staged, and he's always been part of FUG.]]
*** [[spoiler:''Triple-jossed.'' While he was always part of FUG, Ron Mei's dialogue at the end of the Workshop battle suggested that he earnestly had beef with Viole and was trying to get the Slayer Candidate position for himself.]]

* Confirmed as of The Cage arc.




*Wholly confirmed before the Dallar Show ends.



* Jossed on two levels; one is that Bam's backstory confirmed that he's not Jahad's son, and two is that [[spoiler:we get to see what Jahad looked like as a D-Rank regular during the Hidden Floor, and it might as well be [[{{StrongFamilyResemblance}} Wangnan wearing a costume and a mask]].]]



* Jossed, they make it to Train city are are clearly still alive, just very tardy.



The tenth family along with there head has not bam named in canon or in the author's blog notes which is odd considering that all other nine family head and their families have been Named. The theory goes that Jahad and the tenth carried on in a relationship which eventually lead to a child's, a few of the other heads were threatened by the union of the tenth and Jahad so they killed and forced Jahad to hide his child away. Support for this come from the endless comparison of Bam and Jahad. In one remembers Bam cave Below the Jahad symbol there was a cross and in a picture of the ten families crest there was one far to the right at the bottom which was slightly obscured which looked like a cross.

[[WMG: Midori belonged to the unnamed tenth family.]]

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The tenth family along with there head has not bam been named in canon or in the author's blog notes which is odd considering that all other nine family head and their families have been Named. The theory goes that Jahad and the tenth carried on in a relationship which eventually lead to a child's, a few of the other heads were threatened by the union of the tenth and Jahad so they killed and forced Jahad to hide his child away. Support for this come from the endless comparison of Bam and Jahad. In one remembers Bam cave Below the Jahad symbol there was a cross and in a picture of the ten families crest there was one far to the right at the bottom which was slightly obscured which looked like a cross.

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* Jossed on two levels; the blanks for the unnamed Tenth Family Head match up with that of Hendo Lok Bloodmadder, ''who's a guy'', and also Bam's backstory confirmed that he's not Jahad's kid in any capacity.

[[WMG: Midori Adori belonged to the unnamed tenth family.]]


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*[[spoiler: Semi-Confirmed as of the Three Orders mini-arc. While his motives aren't known, Gustang gave a stingray to Rachel which stole Data-Jahad's Fitbit of secrets, along with Urek's sex-offender anklet and Wangnan's fashion ring, and now the Poe Bidau family have been branded as traitors.]]
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** Jossed; their personalities are way too different and [[spoiler: as of The Cage arc, both Karaka and The Ghost are present at the same time in completely different locations. Plus, Ghost can somehow create a Shinsoo Blackhole Sphere, which is limited exclusively to irregulars and a handful of special being in specific locations. Karaka isn't either of those.]]

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** Jossed; their personalities are way too different and [[spoiler: as of The Cage arc, both Karaka and The Ghost are present at the same time in completely different locations. Plus, Ghost can somehow create a Shinsoo Blackhole Sphere, which is limited exclusively to irregulars and a handful of special being beings in specific locations. Karaka isn't either of those.]]

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