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* In a deleted scene Cromartie sits in a house and replaying clips, when he gets to the part that Cameron ran him over he scans the NM license plate of the truck and a small message pops up on the right saying "972 - S4B Running DMV Records". What would that give him? Cameron probably stole it so why bother checking who's the owner? And how could he track it? It's 1999, cars didn't have an internet connection then...

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* In a deleted scene Cromartie sits in a house and replaying clips, when he gets to the part that Cameron ran him over he scans the NM license plate of the truck and a small message pops up on the right saying "972 - S4B [=S4B=] Running DMV Records". What would that give him? Cameron probably stole it so why bother checking who's the owner? And how could he track it? It's 1999, cars didn't have an internet connection then...
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[[WMG: The Future John went to in the series finale was actually ''Series/PowerRangersRPM'' or ''Film/TheMatrix''.]]

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[[WMG: The Future John went to in the series finale was actually ''Series/PowerRangersRPM'' or ''Film/TheMatrix''.''Franchise/TheMatrix''.]]
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* His official title was probably the "Guidance Counselor." As in, "guIDANce..."

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** "Born to Run" makes that all but impossible. She's as mechanical as any other Terminator. It seems to this troper that it's far more likely that Skynet tried to make an very close duplicate of Allison Young and instead wound up making it too much like Allison.



* Okay... that's BEYOND screwed up. Assuming I'm not completely misunderstanding you, you're saying that he basically built her as a robot sex toy. [[AC:WTF???]]
** He didn't necessarily ''build'' her. He could have gotten his hands on her the same way the resistance got their hands on the T-800. And besides, it's not like [[Main.InterspeciesRomance human-on-robot action]] is [[Main.NoBiochemicalBarriers all that uncommon in sci-fi.]]
** Alternately; John grows up with Cameron, they become intimate and when the time comes Cameron herself oversees the design and building of the Cameron T-droid sent back to the past. Perfect Paradox. Ask me why I hate time travel.
*** Problem with that is that the other Skynet Terminators can't identify Cameron; when they scan her, she comes up as an "Unidentified Cyborg." Judging from the promotional posters, her serial number and identification do not fit with those of other Skynet-engineer Terminators, either. Signs point to her not being a recognized Skynet model; in other words, she's a Tech-Com construct.
*** Though that could be explained away a bunch of ways, the most obvious being that Cameron is a "last generation" Terminator, from very near the end of the war -- or, indeed, ''after'' it.
*** And I think it may also be telling that Cameron gets evasive and says something to the tune of "They'll recognize me" (in a bad way) back in the second episode when Sarah asks about the resistance fighters. It sounded like she was implying that they'd recognize her from the battlefield -- on the other side.
*** ''This part'' at least is seemingly confirmed - Derek Reese pulled a gun on Cameron the instant he saw her.
*** After the story told by Sarah's voiceover in the 4th episode I wouldn't be at all surprised if Cameron was built by John in the future.
*** The same episode has Cameron saying that she was built in a Skynet factory along with other Terminators. I think it's safe to say she's a Skynet model - perhaps a prototype or a later model to explain why the other Terminators don't seem to recognize her.
* Well, the sixth episode pretty much confirms she's a Skynet model; Reese from the future also pulls a gun on her the second he sees her, and both the Tech-Com officer and Cameron herself confirm that she was controlled by Skynet until she was reprogrammed. She also apparently does have some kind of close ties with John Connor, as she's the one who leads Derrick to the time machine.
* Why is it no one calls out {{Squick}} with Hideki and Chii in Manga/{{Chobits}}?
** Manga/Anime fans are more used to this sort of thing.
** ...plus she's programmed to die if she has sex.
* Tech-Com probably reprogrammed her so that she didn't broadcast her identity to other terminators. Various terminators deal differently with Cameron depending on the outlines of their missions.



** Of course. Remember that bit at the beginning of Season 2 when the malfunctioning Cameron got pinned between two trucks and started pleading with John? She starts out calmly stating that everything is fine again, but then switches to a very emotional "I love you and you love me" thing. But... Cameron doesn't have emotions. Who has? ''Her Allison persona!'' Of course, at the time we didn't know she had that. That's the reason the future John spends too much time with her, his dead lover lives on in her.
*** Although considering that the real Alison was born at least 24 years after John was, and was somewhere in the region of sixteen when she died, this would be squicky in an entirely new way.

After a while either due to or because of his actions the resistance and possibly Humanity in general after a while no longer see John as a beloved leader or disappointing hero figure merely as a tool or vital component in the defeat of Skynet (it all appeared this way even in the past as even his own mother treated him as/like this almost since the start of the series). After the end of the future war (both literally and figuratively) no songs or memoriams of praise were given to the "Great" John Connor and possibly into the far off future no one even remembers who he was (although that is a great explanation for the backstory of the Aliens vs Predator vs Terminator comics and in combination would be one of the greatest {{Downer Ending}}s ever) leaving John a bitter and lonely man which explains his close relationship with Cameron.

Essentially since John never meets his wife from the T3 and due to the harsh existence of the Future War era John becomes more emotionally distant and colder to everyone around but no one really notices because they are in such an intense Struggle with Skynet they cant be bothered with their leaders mental state or don't care. All of this leads to a connected theory which is..

[[WMG: Cameron is John's Future '''WIFE''']]
And I dont mean that its really Allison Young (the human basis of Cameron's appearance) but actual Terminator Cameron herself who becomes John's future mate (either in the figurative or literal sense). This also makes sense John never has appeared to have lived a normal stable existence with any human..ever and (since T2) has appeared to interact, befriend, and be generally more comfortable with machines then people. Add in the fact of Cameron's recollections of John as a lonely figurehead and some of their interactions are reminiscent of [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor and River Song]] which strongly indicates that their relationship is more then just mere friendly "closeness". Finally this theory had to be said...

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** Of course. Remember that bit at the beginning of Season 2 when the malfunctioning Cameron got pinned between two trucks and started pleading with John? She starts out calmly stating that everything is fine again, but then switches to a very emotional "I love you and you love me" thing. But... Cameron doesn't have emotions. Who has? ''Her Allison future "Allison" persona!'' Of course, at the time we didn't know she had that. That's the reason the future John spends too much time with her, she's his dead lover lives on in her.
*** Although considering that the real Alison was born at least 24 years after John was, and was somewhere in the region of sixteen when she died, this would be squicky in an entirely new way.

After a while either due to or because of his actions the resistance and possibly Humanity in general after a while no longer see John as a beloved leader or disappointing hero figure merely as a tool or vital component in the defeat of Skynet (it all appeared this way even in the past as even his own mother treated him as/like this almost since the start of the series). After the end of the future war (both literally and figuratively) no songs or memoriams of praise were given to the "Great" John Connor and possibly into the far off future no one even remembers who he was (although that is a great explanation for the backstory of the Aliens vs Predator vs Terminator comics and in combination would be one of the greatest {{Downer Ending}}s ever) leaving John a bitter and lonely man which explains his close relationship with Cameron.

Essentially since John never meets his wife from the T3 and due to the harsh existence of the Future War era John becomes more emotionally distant and colder to everyone around but no one really notices because they are in such an intense Struggle with Skynet they cant be bothered with their leaders mental state or don't care. All of this leads to a connected theory which is..

lover.


[[WMG: Cameron is John's Future '''WIFE''']]
'''Wife''']]
And I dont mean that its really Allison Young (the human basis of Cameron's appearance) but actual Terminator Cameron herself who becomes John's future mate (either in the figurative or literal sense). This also makes sense John never has appeared to have lived a normal stable existence with any human..ever and (since T2) has appeared to interact, befriend, and be generally more comfortable with machines then people. Add in the fact of Cameron's recollections of John as a lonely figurehead and some of their interactions are reminiscent of [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor and River Song]] which strongly indicates that their relationship is more then just mere friendly "closeness". Finally this theory had to be said...
romantic as well as sexual "closeness".



* Cameron is fully functional?
** In the very first episode, John is eating a bag of crisps/potato-chips and unthinkingly offers Cameron one. When he remembers that she's a robot, he starts to apologise. She stares him straight in the eye, takes a chip, tells him that she is different (from other Terminators) and eats it, while staring straight into his eyes. There were obviously supposed to be certain ''implications''.
** Male terminators from the movies are fully functional or at least they look this way. I think it's safe to assume that female terminators also have all the necessary equipment.
** Male terminators in the series are shown as fully functional, or at least capable of being married to a human woman and her not noticing anything odd about them. Obvious jokes ensue.
** Terminators do have a functioning heart or something to emit the bioelectric field to allow them to travel back in time. Perhaps we just haven't seen them eating, or only need to consume minute quantities of food to sustain those organs?
*** The artificial flesh emits the field not the heart.

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* Cameron is fully functional?
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functional. In the very first episode, John is eating a bag of crisps/potato-chips and unthinkingly offers Cameron one. When he remembers that she's a robot, he starts to apologise. She stares him straight in the eye, takes a chip, tells him that she is different (from other Terminators) and eats it, while staring straight into his eyes. There were obviously supposed to be certain ''implications''.
** Male terminators from the movies are fully functional or at least they look this way. I think it's safe to assume that female terminators also have all the necessary equipment.
** Male terminators
and in the series are shown as fully functional, or at least to the point of being capable of being married to marrying a human woman and her not noticing anything odd about them. Obvious jokes ensue.
** Terminators do have a functioning heart or something to emit the bioelectric field pump blood and enough biological matter around their endoskeleton to allow them to travel back in time. Perhaps we just haven't seen them eating, or only need to consume minute quantities of food to sustain those organs?
*** The artificial flesh emits the field not the heart.
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[[WMG: Cameron hunted down and killed Stark to get an undamaged chip to back herself up on.]]
* And that was how she would have been brought "back" from the state she was in at the end of S2.

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* It's possible the causal relation is reversed. That is, John gets close to Cameron the Terminator and then when he jumps forward, because of that relationship and the knowledge he has of her, he then gets close to Allison in an attempt to discover the human Cameron without Allison knowing. Then, as future John, when he has the means, (re-)creates Cameron in part because Allison wouldn't really have the experience or knowledge or age for the matter that Cameron does and which he would be perhaps expecting.
* Actually to this troper it all makes perfect sense according to the majority of TSCC's explained and referred to backstory of "Future" John. Basically its like this John (even if its whiny teen John sent to the future) at some point becomes the Lone Wolf Badass leader everyone says that he becomes (although in fairness John's future T2 Persona appears to be more of a hardened yet reasonable military leader but with all the screwing with time travel who knows.).

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* It's possible the causal relation is reversed. That is, John gets close to Cameron the Terminator and then when he jumps forward, because of that relationship and the knowledge he has of her, he then gets close to Allison in an attempt to discover the human Cameron without Allison knowing. Then, as future John, when he has the means, (re-)creates Cameron in part because Allison wouldn't really have the experience or knowledge or age for the matter that Cameron does and which he would be perhaps expecting.
* Actually to this troper it all makes perfect sense according to the majority of TSCC's explained and referred to backstory of "Future" John. Basically its like this John (even if its whiny teen John sent to the future) at some point becomes the Lone Wolf Badass leader everyone says that he becomes (although in fairness John's future T2 Persona appears to be more of a hardened yet reasonable military leader but with all the screwing with time travel who knows.).
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* I find this very convincing, except for one thing: if sending people back in time just creates an independent iteration, doesn't that mean Skynet and the resistance are wasting their resources? If whoever is sent succeeds, then their faction is better off... in another timeline, that cannot possibly help with the war effort. So what's the point of sending so much war materiel, from the point of view of Skynet? What strategic advantage is being gained?
** We see this in Film/TerminatorGenisys : Each time the Connors resist Skynet, Judgment day is postponed. Each time it starts again ''later and with better technology'' and the machines emerge stronger and smarter.

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