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** Not exactly evil, but [[WellIntentionedExtremist willing to do what it takes to purge Sonic 06.]] The end of the franchise is a NecessaryEvil to him. He may even feel that the games and their reputation are doomed.



Okay, let me take some time to explain. So we have Solaris, god and creator of time. He's happy living in timelessness and using the Flames of Disaster as his avatar. But the Duke of Soleanna wants to play around with time, so he tries to make Solaris physical. [[Understatement Making a god of time physical is a bad idea.]] Iblis represents the rage of Solaris at being made physical. Mephiles is the sentience of Solaris, who became sadistic when he was locked up in the Sceptre.

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Okay, let me take some time to explain. So we have Solaris, god and creator of time. He's happy living in timelessness and using the Flames of Disaster as his avatar. But the Duke of Soleanna wants to play around with time, so he tries to make Solaris physical. [[Understatement Understatement Making a god of time physical is a bad idea.]] idea. Iblis represents the rage of Solaris at being made physical. Mephiles is the sentience of Solaris, who became sadistic when he was locked up in the Sceptre.
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*Look at the "pure" Iblis at the end of Silver's story. He's freaking huge. Compare it to the tiny Iblis fresh from the Lab, or the slightly larger but still small Iblis fresh from Elise. There's obviously something that happens to him if he's out too long.
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* Yeah, but he would have destroyed the entire Sonic universe, which would have erased the ''good'' games, too. [[AndThatsTerrible So he's still evil.]]

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He's not [[OmnicidalManiac trying to blow up reality]] [[ForTheEvulz for kicks.]] He's aware he's in a game, [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible and a terrible one at that.]] The destruction of time was a XanatosGambit to force Sonic and co into erasing the game from history. Him killing Sonic was due to the game forcing him to do it, and/or to prove just how bad this game is. If he destroyed time, it would mean there wouldn't be a game in the first place. Unfortunately for him and us, his influence wasn't able to RetGone our copies of the game.

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He's not [[OmnicidalManiac trying to blow up reality]] [[ForTheEvulz for kicks.]] He's aware he's in a game, [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible and a terrible one at that.]] that. The destruction of time was a XanatosGambit to force Sonic and co into erasing the game from history. Him killing Sonic was due to the game forcing him to do it, and/or to prove just how bad this game is. If he destroyed time, it would mean there wouldn't be a game in the first place. Unfortunately for him and us, his influence wasn't able to RetGone our copies of the game.


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[[WMG: [[NiceJobBreakingItHero It's the Duke's own fault]] Solaris and everything related to it [[OmnicidalManiac wants to eat time.]] ]]
Okay, let me take some time to explain. So we have Solaris, god and creator of time. He's happy living in timelessness and using the Flames of Disaster as his avatar. But the Duke of Soleanna wants to play around with time, so he tries to make Solaris physical. [[Understatement Making a god of time physical is a bad idea.]] Iblis represents the rage of Solaris at being made physical. Mephiles is the sentience of Solaris, who became sadistic when he was locked up in the Sceptre.
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[[WMG: In another timeline, Mephiles would have been called "[[FullMetalAlchemist Homonculus]]".]]

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[[WMG: In another timeline, Mephiles would have been called "[[FullMetalAlchemist Homonculus]]".Homunculus]]".]]
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He's not [[OmnicidalManiac trying to blow up reality]] [[ForTheEvulz for kicks.]]He's aware he's in a game,[[SoBadItsHorrible and a terrible one at that.]]The destruction of time was a XanatosGambit to force Sonic and co into erasing the game from history.Him killing Sonic was due to the game forcing him to do it,and/or to prove just how bad this game is.If he destroyed time,it would mean there wouldn't be a game in the first place.Unfortunately for him and us,his influence wasn't able to RetGone our copies of the game

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He's not [[OmnicidalManiac trying to blow up reality]] [[ForTheEvulz for kicks.]]He's ]] He's aware he's in a game,[[SoBadItsHorrible game, [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible and a terrible one at that.]]The ]] The destruction of time was a XanatosGambit to force Sonic and co into erasing the game from history.history. Him killing Sonic was due to the game forcing him to do it,and/or it, and/or to prove just how bad this game is.is. If he destroyed time,it time, it would mean there wouldn't be a game in the first place.place. Unfortunately for him and us,his us, his influence wasn't able to RetGone our copies of the game
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He was just trying to survive the only way he knew how. Those terrible hedgehogs were out to get him, and no one seemed to want to help him find his brother, who'd been missing since the lab exploded and they were separated. He had reason to believe Iblis was kidnapped like he was, and was being held against his will in a place not to far from where he resided. Mephiles recruited Silver and Blaze to rescue him before learning that Silver was an accomplice with Shadow during both of their kidnappings, and that Sonic was the one heavily guarding the place where Iblis was being held. Unable to wait any longer, Mephiles moved forward and eliminated Sonic to free his brother, who had been waiting ten long years. Mephiles was too overcome with emotion during their reunion.

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He was just trying to survive the only way he knew how. Those terrible hedgehogs were out to get him, and no one seemed to want to help him find his brother, who'd been missing since the lab exploded and they were separated. He had reason to believe Iblis was kidnapped like he was, and was being held against his will in a place not to far from where he resided. Mephiles recruited Silver and Blaze to rescue him before learning that Silver was an accomplice with Shadow during both of their kidnappings, and that Sonic was the one heavily guarding the place where Iblis was being held. Unable to wait any longer, Mephiles moved forward and eliminated Sonic to free his brother, who had been waiting ten long years. Mephiles was too overcome with emotion during their reunion.
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He's not [[OmnicidalManiac trying to blow up reality]] [[ForTheEvulz for kicks.]]He's aware he's in a game,[[SoBadItsHorrible and a terrible one at that.]]The destruction of time was a XanatosGambit to force Sonic and co into erasing the game from history.Him killing Sonic was due to the game forcing him to do it,and/or to prove just how bad this game is.If he destroyed time,it would mean there wouldn't be a game in the first place.Unfortunately for him and us,his influence wasn't able to RetGone our copies of the game

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He's not [[OmnicidalManiac trying to blow up reality]] [[ForTheEvulz for kicks.]]He's aware he's in a game,[[SoBadItsHorrible and a terrible one at that.]]The destruction of time was a XanatosGambit to force Sonic and co into erasing the game from history.Him killing Sonic was due to the game forcing him to do it,and/or to prove just how bad this game is.If he destroyed time,it would mean there wouldn't be a game in the first place.Unfortunately for him and us,his influence wasn't able to RetGone our copies of the gamegame

[[WMG: Mephiles didn't know any better...]]
He was just trying to survive the only way he knew how. Those terrible hedgehogs were out to get him, and no one seemed to want to help him find his brother, who'd been missing since the lab exploded and they were separated. He had reason to believe Iblis was kidnapped like he was, and was being held against his will in a place not to far from where he resided. Mephiles recruited Silver and Blaze to rescue him before learning that Silver was an accomplice with Shadow during both of their kidnappings, and that Sonic was the one heavily guarding the place where Iblis was being held. Unable to wait any longer, Mephiles moved forward and eliminated Sonic to free his brother, who had been waiting ten long years. Mephiles was too overcome with emotion during their reunion.

Sadly, the both of them never lived happily ever after, because he did not fully kill Sonic, who teamed up with Silver and Shadow to "take care of their problem". Some say they (mis)used the power of the Emeralds that Mephiles had tried so hard to keep from them, and erased all accounts of what really happened, and rewrote it all hastily before the story was released in the form of the game we are now so familiar with.
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* Mephiles= Ixis Nagus (Sonic Adventure 3)

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** Or she starved to death.


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And there were two games: Sonic Adventure 3 for Wii, and Shadow The Hedgehog 2 for PS3/360. These two were combined into one.

Final Character (06)= Orignal (SA3/ Shadow 2)

*Sonic= Shadow (Shadow 2)
*Shadow= Bunnie Rabbot (Sonic Adventure 3)
*Silver= Sally Acorn (Sonic Adventure 3)
*Blaze= Sonic (Sonic Adventure 3)
*Elise=Rouge (Shadow 2)
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[[WMG: we were originally going to see Blaze die onscreen]]

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[[WMG: we were originally going to see Blaze die onscreen]]onscreen]]

[[WMG: Mephiles has NoFourthWall.]]
He's not [[OmnicidalManiac trying to blow up reality]] [[ForTheEvulz for kicks.]]He's aware he's in a game,[[SoBadItsHorrible and a terrible one at that.]]The destruction of time was a XanatosGambit to force Sonic and co into erasing the game from history.Him killing Sonic was due to the game forcing him to do it,and/or to prove just how bad this game is.If he destroyed time,it would mean there wouldn't be a game in the first place.Unfortunately for him and us,his influence wasn't able to RetGone our copies of the game

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***** The Rush Blaze is a diffrent character from the 06 one.
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*** [[spoiler: [[AWizardDidIt Iblis]].]] It's influence/existance could have easily wiped her [[EasyAmnesia mem]][[TraumaInducedAmnesia ories]].

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*** [[spoiler: [[AWizardDidIt Iblis]].]] It's influence/existance could have easily wiped her [[EasyAmnesia mem]][[TraumaInducedAmnesia ories]].ories]].
**** See the Blaze dying WMG above.

[[WMG: Shadow and Silver were Bunnie Rabbot and Sally Acorn at earlier points of development]]

[[WMG: we were originally going to see Blaze die onscreen]]
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[[WMG: Either Silver or Elise was supposed to be [[Series/SonicTheHedgehog Sally Acorn]]

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[[WMG: Either Silver or Elise was supposed to be [[Series/SonicTheHedgehog Sally Acorn]]
Acorn]]]]
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[[WMG: The dimension Blaze went to is the same one Tikal and Chaos were in]]
And Mephiles killed them all.
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** But if that dimension wasn't affected by the retcon, then why doesn't Blaze know Sonic in ''Rush''? If it didn't change anything else, it wouldn't change her memories either.

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** But if that dimension wasn't affected by the retcon, then why doesn't Blaze know Sonic in ''Rush''? If it didn't change anything else, it wouldn't change her memories either.either.
*** [[spoiler: [[AWizardDidIt Iblis]].]] It's influence/existance could have easily wiped her [[EasyAmnesia mem]][[TraumaInducedAmnesia ories]].
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When [[spoiler: Blaze sealed herself into another dimension with Iblis, she went into an entire different place with it's own timeline that wasn't effected by the Retcon because Solaris didn't exist.]]

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When [[spoiler: Blaze sealed herself into another dimension with Iblis, she went into an entire different place with it's own timeline that wasn't effected by the Retcon because Solaris didn't exist.]]]]
**But if that dimension wasn't affected by the retcon, then why doesn't Blaze know Sonic in ''Rush''? If it didn't change anything else, it wouldn't change her memories either.
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[[WMG: Either Silver or Elise was supposed to be [[Series/SonicTheHedgehog Sally Acorn]]

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[[WMG: Either Silver or Elise was supposed to be [[Series/SonicTheHedgehog Sally Acorn]]Acorn]]

[[WMG: When Sonic and Elise[[spoiler: reset time,]] it didn't affect anyone outside that particular reality.]]
When [[spoiler: Blaze sealed herself into another dimension with Iblis, she went into an entire different place with it's own timeline that wasn't effected by the Retcon because Solaris didn't exist.]]
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How else would he get Iblis back?

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How else would he get Iblis back?back?

[[WMG: Either Silver or Elise was supposed to be [[Series/SonicTheHedgehog Sally Acorn]]
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Exactly what it says on the tin. How cruel and amoral do you have to be to capture and experiment the [[WhatTheHellHero GOD THAT YOUR PEOPLE WORSHIP?]] Admittedly, we don't know if Solaris was really a god or not. Still, that's kind of a dick move, honestly. [[{{Dissimile}} If someone tried to take control of MY mind and make me control time for them, a mindless slave,]] [[AxCrazy and then I went insane and decided to]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt destroy everything,]] [[CaptainObvious I'd be pretty pissed too.]] All kidding aside though, I can't be the only one who thinks the stupid king is directly responsible for turning a probably harmless god into a psychotic [[ChronoTrigger Lavos-wannabe.]]

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Exactly what it says on the tin. How cruel and amoral do you have to be to capture and experiment the [[WhatTheHellHero GOD THAT YOUR PEOPLE WORSHIP?]] Admittedly, we don't know if Solaris was really a god or not. Still, that's kind of a dick move, honestly. [[{{Dissimile}} If someone tried to take control of MY mind and make me control time for them, a mindless slave,]] [[AxCrazy and then I went insane and decided to]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt destroy everything,]] [[CaptainObvious I'd be pretty pissed too.]] All kidding aside though, I can't be the only one who thinks the stupid king is directly responsible for turning a probably harmless god into a psychotic [[ChronoTrigger Lavos-wannabe.]]]]

[[WMG: Mephiles killed Blaze!]]

How else would he get Iblis back?
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*... You think so too? Heck, Mephiles and Father even have similar goals; [[spoiler:to merge with an EldritchAbomination and become a god]]. Then there's the fact that they both have similar true forms (amorphous, shadowy blobs).
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Given Blaze is in the future here.

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Given Blaze is in the future here.here.

[[WMG: Solaris wouldn't have been evil if the moronic King hadn't decided to do (probably) hideous experiments on the deity his people worshipped]]
Exactly what it says on the tin. How cruel and amoral do you have to be to capture and experiment the [[WhatTheHellHero GOD THAT YOUR PEOPLE WORSHIP?]] Admittedly, we don't know if Solaris was really a god or not. Still, that's kind of a dick move, honestly. [[{{Dissimile}} If someone tried to take control of MY mind and make me control time for them, a mindless slave,]] [[AxCrazy and then I went insane and decided to]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt destroy everything,]] [[CaptainObvious I'd be pretty pissed too.]] All kidding aside though, I can't be the only one who thinks the stupid king is directly responsible for turning a probably harmless god into a psychotic [[ChronoTrigger Lavos-wannabe.]]
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[[WMG: the Blaze in this game is a Decendant of the one in the Rush games]]

Given Blaze is in the future here.
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\n[[WMG: Mephiles made Sonic the Hedgehog 2006]]
So that if he shows up for another game, no one will take him seriously, which he will use to his advantage. As an added bonus the cast wouldn't remember him because he isn't supposed to exist.
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Also, he cannot merge with Iblis in the period from it's creation, to the separate sealing of the two parts, to the liberation of Mephiles from the Sceptre of Darkness: he risks to be face-to-face with another Mephiles, with catastrophical results for him.

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Also, he cannot merge with Iblis in the period from it's creation, to the separate sealing of the two parts, to the liberation of Mephiles from the Sceptre of Darkness: he risks to be face-to-face with another Mephiles, with catastrophical results for him.maybe it's because Mephiles is now more "normal" and cannot exist in two places at once (not counting the clones).
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Probably the longer Iblis stays within Elise, or even free but separate by its "brother", the more indipendent it becomes, making it harder to recompose Solaris. That's why he doesn't simply go to the future to merge with Iblis: [[CrackPairing s]][[BrotherSisterIncest h]][[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Squick e]]'s too indipendent by that point.

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Probably the longer Iblis stays within Elise, or even free but separate by its "brother", the more indipendent it becomes, making it harder to recompose Solaris. That's why he doesn't simply go to the future to merge with Iblis: [[CrackPairing s]][[BrotherSisterIncest h]][[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Squick h]][[ScrewYourself e]]'s too indipendent by that point.
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Probably the longer Iblis stays within Elise, or even free but separate by its "brother", the more indipendent it becomes, making it harder to recompose Solaris. That's why he doesn't simply go to the future to merge with Iblis: [[CrackPairing s]][[BrotherSisterIncest h]][[Squick e]]'s too indipendent by that point.

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Probably the longer Iblis stays within Elise, or even free but separate by its "brother", the more indipendent it becomes, making it harder to recompose Solaris. That's why he doesn't simply go to the future to merge with Iblis: [[CrackPairing s]][[BrotherSisterIncest h]][[Squick h]][[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Squick e]]'s too indipendent by that point.

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\n[[WMG: ''Maybe'' Mephiles' plan has an explanation.]]
Probably the longer Iblis stays within Elise, or even free but separate by its "brother", the more indipendent it becomes, making it harder to recompose Solaris. That's why he doesn't simply go to the future to merge with Iblis: [[CrackPairing s]][[BrotherSisterIncest h]][[Squick e]]'s too indipendent by that point.
Also, he cannot merge with Iblis in the period from it's creation, to the separate sealing of the two parts, to the liberation of Mephiles from the Sceptre of Darkness: he risks to be face-to-face with another Mephiles, with catastrophical results for him.
This would have made sense...'''if it was somehow explained in the game'''. But hey, it's a good explanation...that cannot be jossed, '''because the game doesn't have one.'''


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They have ''very'' similar origin stories, and the Duke of Soleanna looks ''almost'' like Father!

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They have ''very'' similar origin stories, and the Duke of Soleanna looks ''almost'' like Father!Father!

[[WMG: Eggman made Sonic the Hedgehog 2006]]
He made it as part of his Anti-Sonic Propaganda Project.


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I mean, by using the same tricks done in decades to attract female audience. Elise has little personality, gets captured many times so Sonic can rescue her etc..

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I mean, by using the same tricks done in decades to attract female audience. Elise has little personality, gets captured many times so Sonic can rescue her etc..etc..

[[WMG: In another timeline, Mephiles would have been called "[[FullMetalAlchemist Homonculus]]".]]
They have ''very'' similar origin stories, and the Duke of Soleanna looks ''almost'' like Father!

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