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[[WMG: The reason for YHVH insanity]]
The thing that went wrong with the universe is Lucifer's existence - at some point the Great Will decided that a plurality of opinions was required, and thus Helel/Lucifer was split from the source and formed as a separate being with a different perspective. This went wrong, because Lucifer got the self-reflection, which YHVH pointedly lacks, but not the desire to create and nurture the paradise, which is still held by YHVH. What was meant to be a system of checks and counterbalances turned into strife and resentment down the line, and then it all went downhill from there when Lucifer openly rebelled.
* Hilariously, that would mean the actual solution would be to whoop both their asses and then fuse them together.
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Eventually, we will finish YHVH off for good. However, as soon as we do, the forces of Chaos will take over existence and the following games will all be set in an ''even more'' CrapsackWorld where anarchy reigns supreme. [[UpToEleven And]] ''[[UpToEleven then]]'' the flaw in reality that affected YHVH will start corrupting the new guy in charge of everything: Lucifer. Now, take his aforementioned chaotic dream world and multiply it by however much this flaw corrupts beings. Yep.

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Eventually, we will finish YHVH off for good. However, as soon as we do, the forces of Chaos will take over existence and the following games will all be set in an ''even more'' CrapsackWorld where anarchy reigns supreme. [[UpToEleven And]] ''[[UpToEleven then]]'' And ''then'' the flaw in reality that affected YHVH will start corrupting the new guy in charge of everything: Lucifer. Now, take his aforementioned chaotic dream world and multiply it by however much this flaw corrupts beings. Yep.
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** It may feature other Angels as well. The other main Seraphs/ArchAngels of Judaism, Roman Catholic, Islam, Eastern Orthodox, and even Zoroastrians equivalent of ArchAngels appearing as minor bosses or flunkies during the main boss battles. Remiel could even show up and be the [[OnlySaneMan voice of reason]] amongst them during the events of game. While minor Angels that have never been in the series before and the Nine Orders we have seen throughout the series appear alongside Shadows during battle. The Final Battle could even be a teamup of Michael, Metatron, and Satan with them [[FusionDance fusing together]] after they get beaten to become the final boss.

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** It may feature other Angels as well. The other main Seraphs/ArchAngels Seraphs / Archangels of Judaism, Roman Catholic, Islam, Eastern Orthodox, and even Zoroastrians equivalent of ArchAngels Archangels appearing as minor bosses or flunkies during the main boss battles. Remiel could even show up and be the [[OnlySaneMan voice of reason]] amongst them during the events of game. While minor Angels that have never been in the series before and the Nine Orders we have seen throughout the series appear alongside Shadows during battle. The Final Battle could even be a teamup of Michael, Metatron, and Satan with them [[FusionDance fusing together]] after they get beaten to become the final boss.
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Dewicking Not So Different as it is now a disambig.


* I would just add that the demons themselves are intelligent life capable of belief. (Think of the fake YHVH created by the hand clapping of the Archangels in SMT II; also the relatively high power level of beings like Metatron, who isn't as much revered by humans, could indicate this too) Now this just deepened the MindScrew. I think the process of faith creating is way out of control long ago, we are just the smallest and newest and pretty good for scapegoating (yes, we aren't helping mattes but we certainly didn't start it). So as weird, alien, powerful, terrifying etc. the demons of the series might be they could very well be a case of NotSoDifferent.

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* I would just add that the demons themselves are intelligent life capable of belief. (Think of the fake YHVH created by the hand clapping of the Archangels in SMT II; also the relatively high power level of beings like Metatron, who isn't as much revered by humans, could indicate this too) Now this just deepened the MindScrew. I think the process of faith creating is way out of control long ago, we are just the smallest and newest and pretty good for scapegoating (yes, we aren't helping mattes but we certainly didn't start it). So as weird, alien, powerful, terrifying etc. the demons of the series might be they could very well be a case of NotSoDifferent.
not so different.
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* [[spoiler: Jossed, the real prequel to the entire Megaten Universe are the Raidou Kuzunoha's Games: the future where Raido and Goto come from leads to SMT I and II due the launch of the ICBMs, changing it leads to SMT IF, Soul Hackers and the Persona Games, and other one Leads to SMT III: Nocturne.]]

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* [[spoiler: Jossed, the real prequel to the entire Megaten Universe are the Raidou Kuzunoha's Games: the future where Raido and Goto come from leads to SMT I and II due the launch of the ICBMs, [[NukeEm ICBMs]], changing it leads to SMT IF, Soul Hackers and the Persona Games, and other one Leads to SMT III: Nocturne.]]
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The way it would appear, this being Megaten and all, is that Lucifer never truly fell. He just was like a protagonist who got to know a thing or two about God, namely that he hit the reset button every time he got bored. He likely decided to stop that lunacy but was overpowered in the process so he started planning. First, we get the first game where he isn't very mature about what he can do and just wants to screw up the game God set up, then we get the second game where he learns a few things and fakes his redemption in the eye of YHWH to get the dragon but fails again and the world is reseted, then we get to the third game where he got a few millenia to think about his plan and created a demon with the heart and will of a human to see if can be a feasable option,and then as it proves very good indeed he gives some of his powers to him after he has proven capable of holding his own against Lucifer,and they start the second rebellion,where it would appear in the probable SMT5, and then if they win and the universe isn't screwed again we get to the ''Franchise/{{Persona}}'' series.

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The way it would appear, this being Megaten and all, is that Lucifer never truly fell. He just was like a protagonist who got to know a thing or two about God, namely that he hit the reset button every time he got bored. He likely decided to stop that lunacy but was overpowered in the process so he started planning. First, we get the first game where he isn't very mature about what he can do and just wants to screw up the game God set up, then we get the second game where he learns a few things and fakes his redemption in the eye of YHWH to get the dragon but fails again and the world is reseted, then we get to the third game where he got a few millenia to think about his plan and created a demon with the heart and will of a human to see if can be a feasable option,and then as it proves very good indeed he gives some of his powers to him after he has proven capable of holding his own against Lucifer,and they start the second rebellion,where it would appear in the probable SMT5, VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiV, and then if they win and the universe isn't screwed again we get to the ''Franchise/{{Persona}}'' series.

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