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* Seems unlikely since the guy and his spirit were literally [[spoiler: sliced in half and exploded]].

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* Seems unlikely since the guy and his spirit were literally [[spoiler: [[CleanCut sliced in half half]] and exploded]].
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Something like Fullmetal alchemist:Brotherhood,created because of the popularity boom and as a prequel to flowers.

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Something like Fullmetal alchemist:Brotherhood,created ''Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood'', created because of the popularity boom and as a prequel to flowers.
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** No doubt he's suffering a FateWorseThanDeath.
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[[WMG: (Anime Version) Zeke [[spoiler: wasn't actually defeated.]]]]

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[[WMG: (Anime Version) Zeke Hao [[spoiler: wasn't actually defeated.]]]]



[[WMG: (Anime Version) Hao/Zeke ''won't'' be back for a sequel.]]
His status as a cold-hearted villian is played pretty straight in the anime. Of course being cruel and uncaring, even to the 'Great Spirit' itself sure didn't help his case much.

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[[WMG: (Anime Version) Hao/Zeke Hao ''won't'' be back for a sequel.]]
His status as a cold-hearted villian villain is played pretty straight in the anime. Of course being cruel and uncaring, even to the 'Great Spirit' itself sure didn't help his case much.



* Ironically, [[spoiler: according to the KanZenBan ending, it looks like aliens might be ultimately responsible after all.]]

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* Ironically, [[spoiler: according to the KanZenBan Kang Zeng Bang ending, it looks like aliens might be ultimately responsible after all.]]



Someothing like Fullmetal alchemist:Brotherhood,created because of the popularity boom and as a prequel to flowers.

[[WMG: Hao/Zeke is going to find being the Shaman King sucks.]]

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Someothing Something like Fullmetal alchemist:Brotherhood,created because of the popularity boom and as a prequel to flowers.

[[WMG: Hao/Zeke Hao is going to find being the Shaman King sucks.]]

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[[WMG: (Anime Version) Hao ''won't'' be back for a sequel.]]

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\n* Seems unlikely since the guy and his spirit were literally [[spoiler: sliced in half and exploded]].

[[WMG: (Anime Version) Hao Hao/Zeke ''won't'' be back for a sequel.]]





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\n* Could be the Great Spirit used it's powers to revoke his ability to reincarnate. That might explain why it took a while for the tournament to start back up again.




[[WMG:There will be a truer to the manga shaman king anime]]
Someothing like Fullmetal alchemist:Brotherhood,created because of the popularity boom and as a prequel to flowers

[[WMG: Hao is going to find being the Shaman King sucks]]
After everything he did, people ARE NOT going to just believe him when he says "I did a lot of terrible things, but now I'm good." He'll have to work himself to the bone to get people to start trusting him, and he probably still won't remembered too fondly after everything he did.

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Shaman King anime.]]
Someothing like Fullmetal alchemist:Brotherhood,created because of the popularity boom and as a prequel to flowers

flowers.

[[WMG: Hao Hao/Zeke is going to find being the Shaman King sucks]]
sucks.]]
After everything he did, people ARE NOT going to just believe him when he says "I did a lot of terrible things, but now I'm good." He'll have to work himself to the bone to get people to start trusting him, and he probably still won't remembered too fondly after everything he did.did.
* I think he already learned that in the manga sequel.

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* The odds on that theory seem pretty long.

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* The odds on that theory seem pretty long.



His status as a cold-hearted villian is played pretty straight in the anime. Of course being cruel and uncaring, even to the 'Great Spirit' itself sure didn't help his case much. One could argue he was just a good man who lost his way but, I don't think the 'Great Spirit' will go easy on him just because of his ''supposed'' high ideals and DarkAndTroubledPast.
* Yeah, I highly doubt the Great Spirit is gonna let Hao just walk away and be reincarnated after his temperary ''hostile takeover''. I ''almost'' feel a little sorry for him... Well, not really!

[[WMG:So for the anime, WHO WINS THE TOURNAMENT!]]
Without Hao around (unlike the manga ending) the title could go to anybody on the heroes team. Personally I'd put my money on [[spoiler:Yoh]].
* Yoh, definitely Yoh.
* I think Ren would actually make a great king now that he's let go of all that anger.
* Manta! Just kiding!

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His status as a cold-hearted villian is played pretty straight in the anime. Of course being cruel and uncaring, even to the 'Great Spirit' itself sure didn't help his case much. One could argue he was just a good man who lost his way but, I don't think the 'Great Spirit' will go easy on him just because of his ''supposed'' high ideals and DarkAndTroubledPast.\n* Yeah, I highly doubt the Great Spirit is gonna let Hao just walk away and be reincarnated after his temperary ''hostile takeover''. I ''almost'' feel a little sorry for him... Well, not really!\n\n[[WMG:So for the anime, WHO WINS THE TOURNAMENT!]]\nWithout Hao around (unlike the manga ending) the title could go to anybody on the heroes team. Personally I'd put my money on [[spoiler:Yoh]].\n* Yoh, definitely Yoh.\n* I think Ren would actually make a great king now that he's let go of all that anger.\n* Manta! Just kiding!\n




* I don't know about that alien theory, but the other stuff seems to be true.



* Dude, where do you come up with this stuff?

[[WMG: Is the anime version of Hao/Zeke as much of a TragicVillain as the manga version?]]
Hao/Zeke's backstory isn't exactly the same in the anime as it is in the manga. On the surface it dosen't seem as tragic either, but is it?
* Well Hao was able to read minds in his first life in the anime to an extent. He could tell that most ''normal'' people were duch-bags. But I don't think that justifies his whole 'Only Shaman's Can Live' policy!

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* Dude, where do you come up with this stuff?

[[WMG: Is the anime version of Hao/Zeke as much of a TragicVillain as the manga version?]]
Hao/Zeke's backstory isn't exactly the same in the anime as it is in the manga. On the surface it dosen't seem as tragic either, but is it?
* Well Hao was able to read minds in his first life in the anime to an extent. He could tell that most ''normal'' people were duch-bags. But I don't think that justifies his whole 'Only Shaman's Can Live' policy!




After everything he did, people ARE NOT going to just believe him when he says "I did a lot of terrible things, but now I'm good." He'll have to work himself to the bone to get people to start trusting him, and he probably still won't remembered too fondly after everything he did.
* And this is exactly why Flower of Maize is happening. Confirmed, this troper guesses.

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After everything he did, people ARE NOT going to just believe him when he says "I did a lot of terrible things, but now I'm good." He'll have to work himself to the bone to get people to start trusting him, and he probably still won't remembered too fondly after everything he did.
* And this is exactly why Flower of Maize is happening. Confirmed, this troper guesses.
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After everything he did, people ARE NOT going to just believe him when he says "I did a lot of terrible things, but now I'm good." He'll have to work himself to the bone to get people to start trusting him, and he probably still won't remembered too fondly after everything he did.

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After everything he did, people ARE NOT going to just believe him when he says "I did a lot of terrible things, but now I'm good." He'll have to work himself to the bone to get people to start trusting him, and he probably still won't remembered too fondly after everything he did.did.
* And this is exactly why Flower of Maize is happening. Confirmed, this troper guesses.
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His status as a cold-hearted villian is played straight in the anime. Of course being cruel and uncaring, even to the 'Great Spirit' itself sure didn't help his case much. One could argue he was just a good man who lost his way but, I don't think the 'Great Spirit' will go easy on him just because of his ''supposed'' high ideals and DarkAndTroubledPast.

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His status as a cold-hearted villian is played pretty straight in the anime. Of course being cruel and uncaring, even to the 'Great Spirit' itself sure didn't help his case much. One could argue he was just a good man who lost his way but, I don't think the 'Great Spirit' will go easy on him just because of his ''supposed'' high ideals and DarkAndTroubledPast.
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* The odds on that theory seem pretty long.
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Tha anime and manga certainly seem indigate as much don't they?

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Tha The anime and manga certainly seem indigate indicate as much don't they?




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* Ironically, [[spoiler: according to the KanZenBan ending, it looks like aliens might be ultimately responsible after all.]]
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[[WMG: (Anime Version) Zeke [[spoiler: wasn't actually defeated.]]]]
Obligatory: [[spoiler: When the Spirit of Fire absorbed the Spirit King, Zeke had the power of what is essentially God. He could have simply made it seem like he was defeated in order to avoid anymore trouble from the rest of the world. He now governs the world in secret. He speaks to the Patch tribe, as the King of Spirits, and has them host the Shaman tournament as usual. When, in reality, the winner of the tournament will be allowed into Zeke's council rather than claiming the crown. In this way, he will begin to create his Shaman only world.]]
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Someothing like Fullmetal alchemist:Brotherhood,created because of the popularity boom and as a prequel to flowers

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Someothing like Fullmetal alchemist:Brotherhood,created because of the popularity boom and as a prequel to flowersflowers

[[WMG: Hao is going to find being the Shaman King sucks]]
After everything he did, people ARE NOT going to just believe him when he says "I did a lot of terrible things, but now I'm good." He'll have to work himself to the bone to get people to start trusting him, and he probably still won't remembered too fondly after everything he did.
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[[WMG:There will be a truer to the manga shaman king]]

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[[WMG:There will be a truer to the manga shaman king]]king anime]]
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* Well Hao was able to read minds in his first life in the anime to an extent. He could tell that most ''normal'' people were duch-bags. But I don't think that justifies his whole 'Only Shaman's Can Live' policy!

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* Well Hao was able to read minds in his first life in the anime to an extent. He could tell that most ''normal'' people were duch-bags. But I don't think that justifies his whole 'Only Shaman's Can Live' policy!policy!

[[There will be a truer to the manga shaman king]]
Someothing like Fullmetal alchemist:Brotherhood,created because of the popularity boom and as a prequel to flowers
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His status as a cold-hearted villian is played straight in the anime. Of course being cruel and uncaring, even to the 'Great Spirit' itself sure didn't help his case much. One could argue he was just a good man who lost his way but, I don't think the 'Great Spirit' will go easy on him just becuase of his ''supposed'' high ideals and DarkAndTroubledPast.

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His status as a cold-hearted villian is played straight in the anime. Of course being cruel and uncaring, even to the 'Great Spirit' itself sure didn't help his case much. One could argue he was just a good man who lost his way but, I don't think the 'Great Spirit' will go easy on him just becuase because of his ''supposed'' high ideals and DarkAndTroubledPast.

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[[WMG:So for the anime, WHO WINS THE TOURNAMENT!]]
Without Hao around (unlike the manga ending) the title could go to anybody on the heroes team. Personally I'd put my money on [[spoiler:Yoh]].
* Yoh, definitely Yoh.
* I think Ren would actually make a great king now that he's let go of all that anger.
* Manta! Just kiding!



* Well Hao was able to read minds in his first life the anime to an extent. He could tell that most ''normal'' people were duch-bags. But I don't think that justifies his whole 'Only Shaman's Can Live' policy!

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* Well Hao was able to read minds in his first life in the anime to an extent. He could tell that most ''normal'' people were duch-bags. But I don't think that justifies his whole 'Only Shaman's Can Live' policy!

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His status as a cold-hearted villian is played straight in the anime. Of course being cruel and uncaring, even to the 'Great Spirit' itself sure didn't help his case much. One could argue he was just a good man who lost his way but, I don't think the 'Great Spirit' will go easy on him just becuase of his ''supposed'' high ideals and DarkAndTroubledPast.



[[WMG: All the things that people attribute to aliens (Stonehenge, the Pyramids, etc.) were built by Shamans]]
* Tha anime and manga certainly seem indigate as much don't they?

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[[WMG: All the things that people attribute to aliens (Stonehenge, the Pyramids, etc.) were built by Shamans]]
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Shamans.]]
Tha anime and manga certainly seem indigate as much don't they?
* I don't know about that alien theory, but the other stuff seems to be true.



* They're the result of a Shaman King that made a Shaman-only planet in the very distant past.

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* They're the result of a Shaman King that made a Shaman-only planet in the very distant past.past.
* Dude, where do you come up with this stuff?

[[WMG: Is the anime version of Hao/Zeke as much of a TragicVillain as the manga version?]]
Hao/Zeke's backstory isn't exactly the same in the anime as it is in the manga. On the surface it dosen't seem as tragic either, but is it?
* Well Hao was able to read minds in his first life the anime to an extent. He could tell that most ''normal'' people were duch-bags. But I don't think that justifies his whole 'Only Shaman's Can Live' policy!
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[[WMG: (Anime Version) Hao ''won't'' be back for a sequal.]]

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[[WMG: (Anime Version) Hao ''won't'' be back for a sequal.sequel.]]

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[[WMG: (Anime Version) Hao ''won't'' be back for a sequal.]]
* Yeah, I highly doubt the Great Spirit is gonna let Hao just walk away and be reincarnated after his temperary ''hostile takeover''. I ''almost'' feel a little sorry for him... Well, not really!




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* Tha anime and manga certainly seem indigate as much don't they?



They're the result of a Shaman King that made a Shaman-only planet in the very distant past.

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* They're the result of a Shaman King that made a Shaman-only planet in the very distant past.

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[[WMG: All the things that people attribut to aliens (Stonehenge, the Pyramids, etc.) were built by Shamans]]

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[[WMG: All the things that people attribut attribute to aliens (Stonehenge, the Pyramids, etc.) were built by Shamans]]Shamans]]

[[WMG: Time Lords are Shamans!]]
They're the result of a Shaman King that made a Shaman-only planet in the very distant past.

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