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* Jossed, Tsukasa is not terminally ill and Isla is retrieved in the final episode.
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* Jossed, [[spoiler:Michiru's]] Giftia foster father became a Wanderer after his lifespan expired, the consequences of which are shown in Episode 5.
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* Jossed, [[spoiler:Michiru's]] Michiru's Giftia foster father became a Wanderer after his lifespan expired, the consequences of which are shown in Episode 5.
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* Jossed, even if she did fool everyone into believing her lifespan had more time then she did, she would still [[spoiler: become a Wanderer and go berserk as seen with other Wanderers in Episode 5.]]
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* Jossed, even if she did fool everyone into believing her lifespan had more time then she did, she would still [[spoiler: become a Wanderer and go berserk as seen with other Wanderers in Episode 5.]]
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It is more likely that Isla is simply [[spoiler:near the end of her life]]. However, if anyone would know of how much time the terminal service department's Giftias have left in their respective lives, it would probably be Kazuki. This theory would explain Kazuki's reluctance to let Isla back into the field, as any shenanigans from Isla's end could draw attention from her superiors and the trouble she would likely face [[spoiler:if she kept Isla past her shelf-life]]. It would also explain Isla's quirks such as refusing to press doorbells or clumsily jumping off apartments, especially when you remember that she was the one who retrieved the most Giftia in her department.
* Jossed: Isla has [[spoiler:about 2000 hours(about 83 days) left]]. Moreover, as Episode 5 illustrates with [[spoiler:Michiru's adoptive father and Marcia]], Giftias like Isla will end up as Wanderers if they exceeded their lifespans.
* Jossed: Isla has [[spoiler:about 2000 hours(about 83 days) left]]. Moreover, as Episode 5 illustrates with [[spoiler:Michiru's adoptive father and Marcia]], Giftias like Isla will end up as Wanderers if they exceeded their lifespans.
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It is more likely that Isla is simply [[spoiler:near near the end of her life]].life. However, if anyone would know of how much time the terminal service department's Giftias have left in their respective lives, it would probably be Kazuki. This theory would explain Kazuki's reluctance to let Isla back into the field, as any shenanigans from Isla's end could draw attention from her superiors and the trouble she would likely face [[spoiler:if if she kept Isla past her shelf-life]].shelf-life. It would also explain Isla's quirks such as refusing to press doorbells or clumsily jumping off apartments, especially when you remember that she was the one who retrieved the most Giftia in her department.
* Jossed: Isla has[[spoiler:about about 2000 hours(about 83 days) left]]. left. Moreover, as Episode 5 illustrates with [[spoiler:Michiru's Michiru's adoptive father and Marcia]], Marcia, Giftias like Isla will end up as Wanderers if they exceeded their lifespans.
* Jossed: Isla has
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Tsukasa [[spoiler: fainted on his first date with Isla]], and later revealed that this is a common occurrence. He may or may not be aware of his condition. He and Isla will [[TogetherInDeath die together]].
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Tsukasa [[spoiler: fainted on his first date with Isla]], Isla, and later revealed that this is a common occurrence. He may or may not be aware of his condition. He and Isla will [[TogetherInDeath die together]].
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She'll do this to try to prevent Isla from turning into another "Andie/Olivia" scenario, where her body is reused, but she has an entirely new personality and no memories of her past life. [[spoiler:But in a twist of fate, this happens after Isla has already been recycled or shot with the virus to deactivate her.]]
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She'll do this to try to prevent Isla from turning into another "Andie/Olivia" scenario, where her body is reused, but she has an entirely new personality and no memories of her past life. [[spoiler:But But in a twist of fate, this happens after Isla has already been recycled or shot with the virus to deactivate her.]]
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[[WMG: Plastic Memories is about emotions, not ideas]]
The plot of the show will end up being about Tsukasa helping Isla come to terms with ending Giftia's lives, including her own impending death. He will end up making her happy, and the final scene will be of him putting a ring on her finger as she is shut down (ie WidowedAtTheWedding)
The plot of the show will end up being about Tsukasa helping Isla come to terms with ending Giftia's lives, including her own impending death. He will end up making her happy, and the final scene will be of him putting a ring on her finger as she is shut down (ie WidowedAtTheWedding)
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[[WMG: Plastic Memories ''Plastic Memories'' is about emotions, not ideas]]
The plot of the show will end up being about Tsukasa helping Isla come to terms with ending Giftia's lives, including her own impending death. He will end up making her happy, and the final scene will be of him putting a ring on her finger as she is shut down(ie (i.e. WidowedAtTheWedding)
The plot of the show will end up being about Tsukasa helping Isla come to terms with ending Giftia's lives, including her own impending death. He will end up making her happy, and the final scene will be of him putting a ring on her finger as she is shut down
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** Sounds like a case of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence planned obsolescence.]] One has to wonder what they do with those Giftia they bring back...
*** If the company's only concern is making money, then the retrieved Giftia bodies might be reused with a newer OS. Recycling the android body is much cheaper than creating another. Considering how indistinguishably human the Giftia's are already, the only thing that might need updates is the OS.
** Alternatively, the limited lifespan thing wasn't planned from the start, but they didn't try/want to fix it later, for some reasons... And ended up passing it up using Planned Obsolescence as a cover up.
*** If the company's only concern is making money, then the retrieved Giftia bodies might be reused with a newer OS. Recycling the android body is much cheaper than creating another. Considering how indistinguishably human the Giftia's are already, the only thing that might need updates is the OS.
** Alternatively, the limited lifespan thing wasn't planned from the start, but they didn't try/want to fix it later, for some reasons... And ended up passing it up using Planned Obsolescence as a cover up.
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** Jossed, even if she did fool everyone into believing her lifespan had more time then she did, she would still [[spoiler: become a Wanderer and go berserk as seen with other Wanderers in Episode 5.]]
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** This works on the premise that military Giftia were legal. Think about it. Even now, today, there's questions in the international community about drone strikes and UCAVs becoming increasingly common. How do you think the United Nations, which currently has a ban on combat-oriented mission PMCs (see the whole Executive Outcomes fallout), are going to react to super-human powered practically indistinguishable human androids? Calls for bans would be instantaneous. And, from the series, it looks like it is some sort of brick wall. If military/combat Giftia were a thing, companies like SAI wouldn't give two hoots about consumer/civilian sales (much like the rest of the defense industry). Yet... If combat Giftia were not legal... Would you put it past a company to not look for loopholes? Say, take a Wanderer that you were going to scrap/rebuild anyways due to memory corruption and reconfigure it a tad. If said Wanderer unit got dropped off at, say, some opposition/terrorist group's front door and then went berserk... Well... I think SAI would chalk that up as a "happy/coincidental accident." Along with whatever government deals and private funding that just so happened to arrive shortly thereafter.
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She'll do this to try to prevent Isla from turning into another "Andie/Olivia" scenario, where her body is reused, but she has an entirely new personality and no memories of her past life. [[spoiler:But in a twist of fate, this happens after Isla has already been recycled or shot with the virus to deactivate her.]]
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She'll do this to try to prevent Isla from turning into another "Andie/Olivia" scenario, where her body is reused, but she has an entirely new personality and no memories of her past life. [[spoiler:But in a twist of fate, this happens after Isla has already been recycled or shot with the virus to deactivate her.]]
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[[WMG: Eru will discover a way for Giftia to retain their personality and memories when they get recycled.]]
She'll do this to try to prevent Isla from turning into another "Andie/Olivia" scenario, where her body is reused, but she has an entirely new personality and no memories of her past life. [[spoiler:But in a twist of fate, this happens after Isla has already been recycled or shot with the virus to deactivate her.]]
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** Alternatively, the limited lifespan thing wasn't planned from the start, but they didn't try/want to fix it later, for some reasons...
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** Alternatively, the limited lifespan thing wasn't planned from the start, but they didn't try/want to fix it later, for some reasons...
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* That doesn't seem very practical. Making a military-oriented Giftia from scratch would make more sense. A berserk Giftia does not recognize friend from foe so at best they could be used as one-time-use shock weapons. Making a Giftia geared for war capable of tactical thinking and cooperation with other soldiers would be far more efficient.
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** Alternatively, the limited lifespan thing wasn't planned from the start, but they didn't try/want to fix it later, for some reasons...
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Tsukasa [[spoiler: fainted on his first date with Isla]], and later revealed that this is a common occurrence. He may or may not be aware of his condition. He and Isla will [[TogetherInDeath die together]].
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Tsukasa [[spoiler: fainted on his first date with Isla]], and later revealed that this is a common occurrence. He may or may not be aware of his condition. He and Isla will [[TogetherInDeath die together]].together]].
[[WMG: Becoming a Wanderer is part of the planned obsolescence]]
The SAI corporation has coded "Becoming a Walker" into the androids, because [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence planned obsolescence]] is easier to enforce if everyone knows that keeping an android too long is dangerous. It's for your own safety that you get a new android, after all. Evidence of a software patch that stops Giftias from becoming wanderers will show up near the end of the series.
[[WMG: Becoming a Wanderer is part of the planned obsolescence]]
The SAI corporation has coded "Becoming a Walker" into the androids, because [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence planned obsolescence]] is easier to enforce if everyone knows that keeping an android too long is dangerous. It's for your own safety that you get a new android, after all. Evidence of a software patch that stops Giftias from becoming wanderers will show up near the end of the series.
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The plot of the show will end up being about Tsukasa helping Isla come to terms with ending Giftia's lives, including her own impending death. He will end up making her happy, and the final scene will be of him putting a ring on her finger as she is shut down (ie WidowedAtTheWedding)
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The plot of the show will end up being about Tsukasa helping Isla come to terms with ending Giftia's lives, including her own impending death. He will end up making her happy, and the final scene will be of him putting a ring on her finger as she is shut down (ie WidowedAtTheWedding)WidowedAtTheWedding)
[[WMG: Tsukasa has a terminal illness]]
Tsukasa [[spoiler: fainted on his first date with Isla]], and later revealed that this is a common occurrence. He may or may not be aware of his condition. He and Isla will [[TogetherInDeath die together]].
[[WMG: Tsukasa has a terminal illness]]
Tsukasa [[spoiler: fainted on his first date with Isla]], and later revealed that this is a common occurrence. He may or may not be aware of his condition. He and Isla will [[TogetherInDeath die together]].
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Now hold on, given that SAI Corporation is clearly a company focused on robotics, why would any troper state that? Well, think about it for a second. We've seen them express a high level of intelligence and a wide variety of emotions and they can eat and drink (as implied at the end of the pilot episode). More damningly, however, we also seen Isla bleed, gasp for oxygen when she surfaced from the water, and train to maintain her strength. These functions imply that Isla is made of organic tissue and muscle rather than mechanics, leading to two possibilities: 1. Giftias are HumanAllAlong or 2. Giftias are original biological beings that are highly modified to be compatible with SAI's architecture.
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Now hold on, given that SAI Corporation is clearly a company focused on robotics, why would any troper state that? Well, think about it for a second. We've seen them express a high level of intelligence and a wide variety of emotions and they can eat and drink (as implied at the end of the pilot episode). More damningly, however, we Isla was also seen Isla bleed, gasp bleeding, gasping for oxygen when she surfaced from the water, and train training to maintain her strength. These functions imply that Isla is made of organic tissue and muscle rather than mechanics, leading to two possibilities: 1. Giftias are HumanAllAlong or 2. Giftias are original biological beings that are highly modified to be compatible with SAI's architecture.
