History WMG / PlanetOfTheApes

Then during the events of “Escape”, Zira and Cornelius were carriers of the virus (as all apes are) which caused it to be spread in the present, explaining the rapid increase in ape intelligence in a short period of time. This causes the apes to progress much faster, including speeding up their rebellion (helped by Caesar being there).

The story ''Quest for the Planet of the Apes'' takes place in 1993. In the story, it is mentioned that it had been a year since the nuclear war and that Lisa is pregnant with Caesar's child. At the end of the story, Mandemus starts being in charge of the ape armory. In ''Battle for the Planet of the Apes,'' Caesar and Lisa's child Cornelius is a kid, and the men in the Forbidden City say that there have been "12 years of peace," meaning that it should be 2004. When the apes took charge, they must have created their own calendar system so that the measurements of man would be forgotten, hence why Mandemus says that he has spent 27 years in the Ape City armory.

** Perhaps the setting of the [[Series/PlanetOfTheApes TV series]] is simply another geographic location where the humans are slightly more advanced than in the films, but still subjugated; or the TV series may take place in an earlier period in ape history (it can't be later, since Earth gets destroyed in ''Beneath).''

** Perhaps the setting of the [[Series/PlanetOfTheApes TV series]] is simply in another geographic location where the humans are slightly more advanced than in the films, but still subjugated; or it may take place in an earlier period in ape history (it can't be later, since Earth gets destroyed in ''Beneath).''

** Perhaps the setting of the [[Series/PlanetOfTheApes TV series]] is simply in another location where the humans are slightly more advanced but still subjugated; or it may take place in an earlier period in ape history (it can't be later, since Earth gets destroyed in ''Beneath).''

The was [[Tropers/MacPhisto This Troper]] saw it, is that in order to subvert the expected ending (he was on Earth... IN THE FUTURE!) Marky Mark was still on Earth all along... IN THE PAST!(?) Work with me here... the first (what could be called) human beings showed up about 13000 years ago. Perhaps the apes were here before us. Then, their society collapsed, leaving us to pick up the pieces in time for TenThousandBC. By traveling back in the past, Leo severely altered the chain of evolution. The sudden appearance of their mythical savior provided some sort of catalyst that revolutionized their entire civilization, and continue progressing. Thus, the human race was never given the opportunity to evolve, and most likely died out. Or at least became as primitive as the apes we know today.

[[WMG: Shortly after the Battle For The Planet Of The Apes' epilogue some sort of religious and cultural revolution took place in Ape society]]
Shortly after the Battle For The Planet Of The Apes' epilogue some sort of religious and cultural revolution took place in Ape society. The results were humans being cast out and apes considering themselves racially superior. The sacred scrolls were written (or re-written) to justify this at the time and eventually make this historical event largely unknown to wider Ape society with the religious history in its place. This could have been perpetrated by Aldo sympathisers who replaced Caesar's historical revolution and tolerance of humans, with a mythical set of events where Aldo simply said no more to human barbarity. The ability to speak being lost in the wild human can be explained by a mutated gene being introduced by the slightly mutated humans from the city captured by Caesar at the end of "Battle". By the time Zira and Cornelius are allowed to read the secret historical scrolls more than a thousand years has passed and even these supposedly historical records have been tainted with religious and political agendas.

[[WMG: The slave apes in 'Conquest' were created by splicing human DNA with the apes]]

The story ''Quest for the Planet of the Apes'' takes place in 1993. In the story, it is mentioned that it had been a year since the nuclear war and that Lisa is pregnant with Caesar's child. In ''Battle for the Planet of the Apes,'' Caesar and Lisa's child Cornelius is a kid, and the men in the Forbidden City say that there have been "12 years of peace," meaning that it should be 2004. When the apes took charge, they must have created their own calendar system so that the measurements of man would be forgotten.

* While I do agree that they are in the same continuity, the live action TV series was actually in the original timeline. In the first episode, a book shows a picture of human-dominated civilization taken in 2503. In the original timeline, apes took over around 2550, whereas the events of ''Conquest'' in the second timeline took place 1991. The TV series ''has'' to take place in the original timeline. As for the events mentioned in the pilot, I do not believe that the astronauts mentioned are meant to be Taylor's group, which arrives in the 40th century. Between 3085 and the 40th century, humans lost their ability to speak. Galen and Zaius from the show may be ancestors of Cornelius and Zaius from the movies.

First the events of Planet (1968) and Beneath happen, with Taylor crash-landing on the planet of the apes and then destroying it, thus ending "timeline A". Just before the climax of Beneath, Zira, Cornelius and Dr. Milo escape, leading to the events of Escape. The combined results of their presence lead to "timeline B", which covers the events of Conquest and Battle. This ends up creating the Ape-Earth of 3085 that is seen in the TV series; while the apes do come to dominate the world, humans remain intelligent and literate but become second-class citizens (a state that the mixed-primates civilisation in Battle was pretty much at). Thusly, when Taylor's ship crashes on the planet in this timeline, there are no Neo-Neolithic humans to steal their clothes and Taylor and co instead make open contact directly with the apes. Which leads to their deaths at the hands of Urko, as stated in the pilot of the TV series, and so there is no detonation of the cobalt bomb (assuming that the Underdwellers even exist in this time) and thusly the planet never gets destroyed.

** [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice Job Blowing Up The Planet, Taylor]].

Taylor and crew only see a small section of the world, being geographically New York City and environs. There's no reason to believe that humans are not the dominant species everywhere else.

Same idea as above, but more consistent with the technology levels exhibited in the fourth film. Plus, it explains why that other ape's ability to stammer "No" at the end was a surprise to ''everyone'', ape or human: her genes hadn't been manipulated deliberately to have human features, she just happened to have enough ancestry from Cornelius, Zira and/or Dr. Milo to have inherited speech by chance.

Same idea as above, but more consistent with the technology levels exhibited in the fourth film. Plus, it explains why that other ape's ability to stammer "No" at the end was a surprise to ''everyone'', ape or human: her genes hadn't been manipulated deliberately to have human features, she just happened to have enough ancestry from Cornelius, Zera and/or Dr. Milo to have inherited speech by chance.

It would explain why they all looked so much more human by then. (backstory-wise, they obviously had to use humans in makeup)and were smart enough to perform all those jobs.

It seemed ''extremely'', extremely obvious to this troper but apparently other people don't get it. They tried to do a twist since ItWasHisSled but failed. It was the exact same ending however he ended up at least one millennium into the future. Possibly him showing off his technology made others understand it, him bringing the chimp. and letting him stay screwed everything up, or it's just technology advancing.

Alone with them in the beach and inquired about the talking doll, he gave in and told them what he knew about the downfall of humanity and Caesar's... ahem, "Aldo's" rebellion. He also considered that with Taylor gone he had no reason to continue their prosecution and dropped the charges against them. Hence why Zira and Cornelius are free and at home in ''Beneath'', and why they know more about the past in ''Escape'' than they did in the original film.

[[WMG: Gibbons/Siamangs are country bumpkins]]
Gorillas are the military and blue collar workers, Chimps the intellectuals and white collars, and Orangutangs the religious, judiciary and political class. They all live in Ape City. But who is the farmer class that cultivates those maize fields the humans ravage? That's right, the Gibbons. They are small, weak and monogamous to the point of being antisocial. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Plus, they run like idiots]]. They are basically illiterate country bumpkins that live in single pairs attending their own isolate farm and land plot, and raising their children themselves to do nothing else. In fact, they usually avoid contact with the cities altogether unless it's time to sell their products or to call the Gorilla army because those pesky humans are ravaging their crops again. All these reasons make the Gibbons the butt of jokes to other apes.

* It is much more logical to assume that it was an AlternateUniverse. First and foremost, the technology used by the apes would have been found by later people, and examined. Second, there's the ship, which would have been discovered and led to advancement and hence an unstable time loop. Third, the humans and apes are able to speak modern English, which means that English needed to exist before it existed if your idea were remotely correct.

[[WMG: In the ''Rise'' continuity, Madagascar is the only place spared the virus.]]
Cause, A) if they're going to go down similar paths to the original humans have to come from somewhere, and B) who can resist the {{Pandemic}} 2 joke?

Cause, A) if they're going to go down similar paths to the original humans have to come from somewhere, and B) who can resist the [[{{Pandemic}}]] 2 joke?

It seemed ''extremely'', extremely obvious to this troper but apparently other people don't get it. They tried to do a twist since ItWasHisSled but failed. It was the exact same ending however he ended up at least one millennium into the future. Possibly him showing off his technology made others understand it, him bringing the chimp. and letting him stay screwed everything up, or it's just technology advancing.

It seemed ''extremely'', extremely obvious to this troper but apparently other people don't get it. They tried to do a twist since ItWasHisSled but failed. It was the exact same ending however he ended up at least one millennium into the future.

It seemed ''extremely'', extremely obvious to this troper but apparently other people don't get it. They tried to do a twist since ItWasHisSled but failed.

The was [[Tropers/MacPhisto This Troper]] saw it, is that in order to subvert the expected ending (he was on Earth... IN THE FUTURE!) Marky Mark was still on Earth all along... IN THE PAST!(?) Work with me here... the first (what could be called) human beings showed up about 13000 years ago. Perhaps the apes were here before us. Then, their society collapsed, leaving us to pick up the pieces in time for TenThousandBC. By traveling back in the past, Leo severely altered the chain of evolution. The sudden appearance of their mythical savior provided some sort of catalyst that revolutionized their entire civilization, and continue progressing. Thus, the human race was never given the opportunity to evolve, and most likely died out. Or at least became as primitive as the apes we know today.