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[[WMG: The Wiki/SCPFoundation has at ''least'' one minor Spawn of Rovagug in custody.]]

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[[WMG: The Wiki/SCPFoundation Website/SCPFoundation has at ''least'' one minor Spawn of Rovagug in custody.]]
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* However the page on Paizo's website claims that the 4th Bestiary will correspond with the release of [[UpToEleven Mythic Adventures]] so I suppose statting Gods might still be possible.

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* However the page on Paizo's website claims that the 4th Bestiary will correspond with the release of [[UpToEleven Mythic Adventures]] Adventures so I suppose statting Gods might still be possible.
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Rovagug's escape and the destruction of the entire multiverse was a prophecy, foreordained to happen. Aroden committed a HeroicSuicide to break prophecy itself. So now Rovagug's escape is a "maybe" rather than a "definitely," and the multiverse has a fighting chance. And he guided Iomedae to the Starstone so that he'd have an Inheritor capable of taking up his mantle afterward.

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Rovagug's escape and the destruction of the entire multiverse was a prophecy, foreordained to happen. Aroden committed a HeroicSuicide to break prophecy itself. So now Rovagug's escape is a "maybe" rather than a "definitely," and the multiverse has a fighting chance. And he guided Iomedae to the Starstone so that he'd have an Inheritor capable of taking up his mantle afterward.afterward.

[[WMG: Nethys fourth walled]]
Nethys became a god when he realized that he was just a stat block on a sheet of paper. He went mad, but also rewrote his stats to make himself a god.
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Think about it. Norgorber is a ProfessionalKiller (and the latest deity to ascend), and Aroden is dead. Coincedence? Maybe.

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Think about it. Norgorber is a ProfessionalKiller (and the latest deity to ascend), and Aroden is dead. Coincedence? Maybe.Maybe.

[[WMG: Aroden killed himself to prevent TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]]
Rovagug's escape and the destruction of the entire multiverse was a prophecy, foreordained to happen. Aroden committed a HeroicSuicide to break prophecy itself. So now Rovagug's escape is a "maybe" rather than a "definitely," and the multiverse has a fighting chance. And he guided Iomedae to the Starstone so that he'd have an Inheritor capable of taking up his mantle afterward.
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[[WMG: Nethys is really [[CthulhuMythos Nyarlathotep]].]]

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[[WMG: Nethys is really [[CthulhuMythos [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Nyarlathotep]].]]



The cover of Pathfinder Bestiary 4 appears to show the great old one [[CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]]. Let's think about this, Cthulhu is essentially a God and in Pathfinder Gods' stats usually look something like this:

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The cover of Pathfinder Bestiary 4 appears to show the great old one [[CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]].Franchise/{{Cthulhu|Mythos}}. Let's think about this, Cthulhu is essentially a God and in Pathfinder Gods' stats usually look something like this:



Cthulhu is supposed to be slumbering on a distant world - obviously Earth. So there's an opportunity to use the CthulhuMythos as a bridge for Pathfinder characters to visit Earth. However, unless Paizo wants to get ambitious and use this as a launch for a Pathfinder Modern game, they probably won't visit modern Earth. The simplest solution would be to drop the characters somewhere in Earth's past. My personal hope would be for the UsefulNotes/ThirtyYearsWar - a little more advanced than Pathfinder (ubiquitous guns), full of religious intolerance, and generally not a fun place to be.

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Cthulhu is supposed to be slumbering on a distant world - obviously Earth. So there's an opportunity to use the CthulhuMythos Franchise/CthulhuMythos as a bridge for Pathfinder characters to visit Earth. However, unless Paizo wants to get ambitious and use this as a launch for a Pathfinder Modern game, they probably won't visit modern Earth. The simplest solution would be to drop the characters somewhere in Earth's past. My personal hope would be for the UsefulNotes/ThirtyYearsWar - a little more advanced than Pathfinder (ubiquitous guns), full of religious intolerance, and generally not a fun place to be.
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* Book Five of the Reign of Winter adventure path (Entitled "[[GrigoriRasputin Rasputin]] Must Die!") does just that - the search for Literature/BabaYaga brings you to the world of her birth, during UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne. The specific area is an out-of-the-way prison camp where Rasputin, his supernatural minions and the players can all throw down without messing things up too much. The human soldiers there are blithe to the magic thanks to a combination of their training and the Film/{{Nosferatu}} chaplains keeping them all under CharmPerson effects to make them [[WeirdnessCensor oblivious to the supernatural things they're seeing]].

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* Book Five of the Reign of Winter adventure path (Entitled "[[GrigoriRasputin "[[UsefulNotes/RasputinTheMadMonk Rasputin]] Must Die!") does just that - the search for Literature/BabaYaga brings you to the world of her birth, during UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne. The specific area is an out-of-the-way prison camp where Rasputin, his supernatural minions and the players can all throw down without messing things up too much. The human soldiers there are blithe to the magic thanks to a combination of their training and the Film/{{Nosferatu}} chaplains keeping them all under CharmPerson effects to make them [[WeirdnessCensor oblivious to the supernatural things they're seeing]].
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** The answer to your question would be ''CallOfCthulhu'', which dramatically overstatted him and added MemeticBadass points like "hit by a nuclear weapon, he reforms almost immediately but is now radioactive."

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** The answer to your question would be ''CallOfCthulhu'', ''TabletopGame/CallOfCthulhu'', which dramatically overstatted him and added MemeticBadass points like "hit by a nuclear weapon, he reforms almost immediately but is now radioactive."
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Think about it. Norgorber is a ProfessionalKiller (and the latest deity to acend), and Aroden is dead. Coincedence? Maybe.

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Think about it. Norgorber is a ProfessionalKiller (and the latest deity to acend), ascend), and Aroden is dead. Coincedence? Maybe.
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Apsu, the real Apsu, not the puny god who serves as his avatar, is the concept of the "normal" universe. The planets, the stars, where life is all nice...And Tiamat is the dark tapestry, the other side of the universe, the entropy. They may love each other, but for the lifeforms that inhabit the normal one, the dark tapestry is a deadly nightmare. And some "lower" dark tapestry creatures might think the same of the normal universe.

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Apsu, the real Apsu, not the puny god who serves as his avatar, is the concept of the "normal" universe. The planets, the stars, where life is all nice...And Tiamat is the dark tapestry, the other side of the universe, the entropy. They may love each other, but for the lifeforms that inhabit the normal one, the dark tapestry is a deadly nightmare. And some "lower" dark tapestry creatures might think the same of the normal universe.universe.

[[WMG: Norgorber killed Aroden.]]
Think about it. Norgorber is a ProfessionalKiller (and the latest deity to acend), and Aroden is dead. Coincedence? Maybe.
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Gods of wanton destruction? Check. Forced all the other gods to join forces against them? Check. [[SealedEvilInACan Sealed away in a demiplane?]] Check. Rovagug and Tharizdun are aspects of the same god worshiped on Golarion and Oerth, respectively. Myths about them have diverged wildly over the ages, leading to many differences in the details, but the core story is the same. Other possible aspects include Khyber from {{Eberron}}, the wraithlike Dark God (see 2E's ''Monster Mythology''), the oozing Elder Elemental Eye (worshiped in Greyhawk), and the Drow god Ghaunadaur.

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Gods of wanton destruction? Check. Forced all the other gods to join forces against them? Check. [[SealedEvilInACan Sealed away in a demiplane?]] Check. Rovagug and Tharizdun are aspects of the same god worshiped on Golarion and Oerth, respectively. Myths about them have diverged wildly over the ages, leading to many differences in the details, but the core story is the same. Other possible aspects include Khyber from {{Eberron}}, TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}, the wraithlike Dark God (see 2E's ''Monster Mythology''), the oozing Elder Elemental Eye (worshiped in Greyhawk), and the Drow god Ghaunadaur.
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** The answer to your question would be ''CallOfCthulhu'', which dramatically overstatted him and added MemeticBadass points like "hit by a nuclear weapon, he reforms almost immediately but is now radioactive."
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* Considering that he traveled into the dark tapestry, it was likely one of the outer gods. There's a good chance he ran into Nyarlathotep (who operates around Golarion) or worse yet stumbled into Azathoth's court.

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* Considering that he traveled travelled into the dark tapestry, it was likely one of the outer gods. There's a good chance he ran into Nyarlathotep (who operates around Golarion) or worse yet stumbled into Azathoth's court.



The cover of Pathfinder Bestiary 4 appears to show the great old one [[CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]]. Let's think about this, Chtulhu is essentially a God and in Pathfinder Gods stas usally look something like this:

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The cover of Pathfinder Bestiary 4 appears to show the great old one [[CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]]. Let's think about this, Chtulhu Cthulhu is essentially a God and in Pathfinder Gods stas usally Gods' stats usually look something like this:
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* Also...Where does the idea that Cthulhu is an unbeatable horror come from ? In the book he was JUST a giant alien with some psychic powers. A good bomb in the face would have probably killed him, I don't see any reason why he should be seen as the ultimate monster. I even think that his stats were far too high for what he was in the short story, especially the immortality thing.
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* Not that much jossed when you think about it. It wasn't an aboleth plot (though I think that would be cooler) but Aroden still might have been killed by the Starstone. It might bestow only a temporary divinity and then kill the god when the time has passed. And it's not an heroic sacrifice if the gods actually made it worse. If the Starstone bestows the power of the gods it killed, it just might also take it back after some time.
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* Jossed. It's explicitly stated in Mythic Adventures that the Starstone was intended to destroy a lot ''less'', but it backfired when several gods pulled a HeroicSacrifice. Aboleths are not the kind of creatures who are willing to accept the decimation of their own civilization (which is what the Starstone did), even for a long-term gain, so yeah, [[SmugSnake even they have hubris]].
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[[FridgeHorror And now the Groetus cultists have a game plan]]....

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[[FridgeHorror And now the Groetus cultists have a game plan]]....plan]]....

[[WMG: The starstone killed Aroden]]
The Starstone was sent by the Aboleth to destroy the Azlant and, centuries later, Aroden lifted it from the sea, becoming a god in the process...You could think that the Aboleth made a mistake but...
The aboleth in fact calculated everything. They knew the Starstone would give the people who passed its test the power to become gods...But the Starstone is a trap. Any person who used the starstone to ascend to divinity will die a horrible death. The aboleth used it to destroy the very concept of fate and prophecy, since their defeat was prophetized. And they have already won. Soon, Caidan, Iomedae and Norgorber will die screaming and the energy they had as gods will feed the aboleth, making them FINALLY powerfull enough to kill each and every gods and finally reign supreme.

[[WMG: The Lovecraftian horror, the black tapestry and everything is all the product of Tiamat]]
The Tiamat of Paizo is never described as evil, she is always "the other side". The yang to Apsu's yin, the feminine concept, the motherly love. In the dragons' creation myth, Tiamat is saltwater while Apsu is the nice fresh water and they both created EVERYTHING through their union.
But Apsu took the form of a dragon god...That means Apsu is NOT a dragon god, the dragon god is only his avatar.
Where does it all lead you would ask ? The dragons are deathly afraid of Tiamat but she never did anything evil or scary. It is not what she does, it's what she IS that scares them.
Apsu, the real Apsu, not the puny god who serves as his avatar, is the concept of the "normal" universe. The planets, the stars, where life is all nice...And Tiamat is the dark tapestry, the other side of the universe, the entropy. They may love each other, but for the lifeforms that inhabit the normal one, the dark tapestry is a deadly nightmare. And some "lower" dark tapestry creatures might think the same of the normal universe.
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That's why they [[ShrugOfGod won't tell us]] what happened to him.

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That's why they [[ShrugOfGod won't tell us]] what happened to him.him.

[[WMG: Groetus was scammed...]]
Whatever deal it was that keeps him waiting for Pharasma to judge the last mortal soul will have him hanging above the Boneyard indefinitely. Why? Three words: Positive Energy Plane. New souls are constantly born the there under the supervision of the jyoti. As long as new souls are born, Pharasma will have new souls to judge. The only way Groetus will ever have his time to shine is is if sceaduinar ever succeed in their war against the jyoti and destroy the soul growing... [[OhCrap orchards]]...

[[FridgeHorror And now the Groetus cultists have a game plan]]....
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That's why they [[ShrugOfGold won't tell us]] what happened to him.

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That's why they [[ShrugOfGold [[ShrugOfGod won't tell us]] what happened to him.

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[[WMG: Aroden was murdered by Paizo]]
That's why they [[ShrugOfGold won't tell us]] what happened to him.
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[[WMG: Golarion is in the Andromeda Galaxy.]]
One of the galaxies visible from Golarion with ordinary Renaissance-era astronomical equipment is named the "Milk Spiral." If that's our Milky Way, Golarion's galaxy would have to be similarly visible from Earth.
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[[WMG: Lamashtu's influence has reached Earth, and LadyGaga is her herald.]]

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[[WMG: Lamashtu's influence has reached Earth, and LadyGaga Music/LadyGaga is her herald.]]
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Norgorber's divine form is similar to that of Hastur's, an invisible body wrapped in a cloak; his title, the Reaper of Reputations, takes it's real world inspiration from one of the short stories from ''TheKingInYellow'', which is the inspiration for Hastur.

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Norgorber's divine form is similar to that of Hastur's, an invisible body wrapped in a cloak; his title, the Reaper of Reputations, takes it's real world inspiration from one of the short stories from ''TheKingInYellow'', ''Literature/TheKingInYellow'', which is the inspiration for Hastur.
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To be specific, direct psychic contact with the more disturbed and disturbing corners of it. Encountering either some of the weirder manifestations of the FurryFandom or absorbing the psychic energy of the Furry Hatedom is probably to blame for his attack on his dad. (Who, remember, was a wolf-spirit.)

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To be specific, direct psychic contact with the more disturbed and disturbing corners of it. Encountering either some of the weirder manifestations of the FurryFandom UsefulNotes/FurryFandom or absorbing the psychic energy of the Furry Hatedom is probably to blame for his attack on his dad. (Who, remember, was a wolf-spirit.)
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** Specifically, Great Old Ones like Cthulhu and Hatsur are on the level of Demon Princes and Emperyal Lords, which also got stats in Bestiary 4. True Gods, including Outer Gods like Shub-Niggurath(sp), remain deliberately unstattable.
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* Book Five of the Reign of Winter adventure path (Entitled "[[GrigoriRasputin Rasputin]] Must Die!") does just that - the search for BabaYaga brings you to the world of her birth, during UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne. The specific area is an out-of-the-way prison camp where Rasputin, his supernatural minions and the players can all throw down without messing things up too much. The human soldiers there are blithe to the magic thanks to a combination of their training and the Film/{{Nosferatu}} chaplains keeping them all under CharmPerson effects to make them [[WeirdnessCensor oblivious to the supernatural things they're seeing]].

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* Book Five of the Reign of Winter adventure path (Entitled "[[GrigoriRasputin Rasputin]] Must Die!") does just that - the search for BabaYaga Literature/BabaYaga brings you to the world of her birth, during UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne. The specific area is an out-of-the-way prison camp where Rasputin, his supernatural minions and the players can all throw down without messing things up too much. The human soldiers there are blithe to the magic thanks to a combination of their training and the Film/{{Nosferatu}} chaplains keeping them all under CharmPerson effects to make them [[WeirdnessCensor oblivious to the supernatural things they're seeing]].
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[[WMG:[[{{Pathfinder}} Rovagug]] and [[{{Greyhawk}} Tharizdun]] are one and the same.]]

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[[WMG:[[{{Pathfinder}} [[WMG:[[TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}} Rovagug]] and [[{{Greyhawk}} [[TabletopGame/{{Greyhawk}} Tharizdun]] are one and the same.]]
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[[WMG: Asmodeus killed Aroden.]]
Think about it. Aroden dies and Asmodeus conveniently takes over the nation he founded in the uncertain aftermath? Suspicious enough, and we know Asmodeus has killed a god before.

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