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** One thing to note: considering that the Vellumentals are based off the TheFourGods, one of them, namely the Wind Vellumental, would likely have to be represented by a tiger rather than an eagle since, aside from having to stick to the NaturalElements theme, they'd have to stick to the god theming as well.

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[[spoiler:Remember how Olivia worded her wish? “May all the origami folded by my brother be undone.” You might think “Olivia still falls under that!” However…that’s not completely true.
See, while Olly may have initially folded Olivia, he was not the most recent person who did so. That was actually Kamek, back in Shangri-Spa. Olivia only wished for her brother’s folding be undone, [[ExactWords not anyone else’s]].
Therefore, there’s a chance she survived, and just ended up somewhere else far away]].

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[[spoiler:Remember how Olivia worded her wish? “May all the origami folded by my brother be undone.” You might think “Olivia still falls under that!” However…that’s However, that’s not completely true.
true. See, while Olly may have initially folded Olivia, he was not the most recent person who did so. That was actually Kamek, back in Shangri-Spa. Olivia only wished for her brother’s folding be undone, [[ExactWords not anyone else’s]]. \n Therefore, there’s a chance she survived, and just ended up somewhere else far away]].away.]]
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[[WMG: Olivia’s [[spoiler:not dead.]]]]
[[spoiler:Remember how Olivia worded her wish? “May all the origami folded by my brother be undone.” You might think “Olivia still falls under that!” However…that’s not completely true.
See, while Olly may have initially folded Olivia, he was not the most recent person who did so. That was actually Kamek, back in Shangri-Spa. Olivia only wished for her brother’s folding be undone, [[ExactWords not anyone else’s]].
Therefore, there’s a chance she survived, and just ended up somewhere else far away]].
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Alongside that, a required door on the Princess Peach ship has a natural event flag locking it until later in the game. Who’s to say “when” it unlocks wasn’t changed? Furthermore, there’s a line T Ode says at Musee Champignon [[note]] “What is lost may never be found. All that remains is a shattered reflection, like a teardrop in a pond.”[[/note]] that would make more sense narratively to incorporate if Bobby [[TheArtifact was supposed to be in the room as well in an earlier draft]].

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Alongside that, a required door on the Princess Peach ship has a natural event flag locking it until later in the game. Who’s to say “when” it unlocks wasn’t changed? Furthermore, there’s a line T Ode says at Musee Champignon [[note]] “What is lost may never be found. All that remains is a shattered reflection, like a teardrop in a pond.”[[/note]] that would make more sense narratively to incorporate if Bobby [[TheArtifact [[OrphanedReference was supposed to be in the room as well in an earlier draft]].

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Alongside that, a required door on the Princess Peach ship has a natural event flag locking it until later in the game. Who’s to say “when” it unlocks wasn’t changed? Furthermore, there’s a line T Ode says at Musee Champignon [[note]] “What is lost may never be found. All that remains is a shattered reflection, like a teardrop in a pond.”[[/note]] that would make more sense narratively to incorporate if Bobby [[TheArtifact was supposed to be in the room as well in an earlier draft]].

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Alongside that, a required door on the Princess Peach ship has a natural event flag locking it until later in the game. Who’s to say “when” it unlocks wasn’t changed? Furthermore, there’s a line T Ode says at Musee Champignon [[note]] “What is lost may never be found. All that remains is a shattered reflection, like a teardrop in a pond.”[[/note]] that would make more sense narratively to incorporate if Bobby [[TheArtifact was supposed to be in the room as well in an earlier draft]].


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[[WMG: Bobby getting his memory back and his resolution were supposed to happen near the end of the game.]]
Within the code of the game, not only is there data to support Bobby being in places he’d never be able to go- there’s also data for dialogue on Scuffle Island when he sits that out.
In addition, it’s very odd how this is the only time in the game Mario goes to a later world, needing to backtrack all the way to Shogun Studio’s blue pipe to even begin the voyage to the Princess Peach. Something like that would make more sense and be more convenient if, say, the warp pipe was just a few steps away, in front of, perhaps, a certain uprooted large castle with a certain locked door.
Alongside that, a required door on the Princess Peach ship has a natural event flag locking it until later in the game. Who’s to say “when” it unlocks wasn’t changed? Furthermore, there’s a line T Ode says at Musee Champignon [[note]] “What is lost may never be found. All that remains is a shattered reflection, like a teardrop in a pond.”[[/note]] that would make more sense narratively to incorporate if Bobby [[TheArtifact was supposed to be in the room as well in an earlier draft]].
Finally, there’s that whole airship battle before reaching that certain castle, something that would logically cause Bobby to regain his memory.
All of this together might suggest the boulder scene, the visit to the Princess Peach, and [[spoiler:Bobby going kaboom]] were supposed to happen exactly before entering that castle, but something bumped the events up to much earlier. By that same token, either the room where Olivia cries was meant to be for something else or relocated from near Hotfoot Volcano.
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[[WMG: Paper Mario NX will be a {{Deconstruction}} of how there are just Toads in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'' and ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash'']]
Not only that but it will have three slots in a party and it will have [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 Wart]] as the Big Bad and the game will be NintendoHard.
* The rest of it is entirely off-base, but the deconstruction bit did turn out to be the case! At least, the villain of ''The Origami King'' is motivated largely by a desire to rid the world of Toads so that he won't have to see their "stupid faces" everywhere.

[[WMG: Paper Mario Switch will feature friendly races that were introduced in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey''.]]
Apparently, the reason "everyone's a Toad" is because Miyamoto [[ExecutiveMeddling insisted the games start using only characters from the main Super Mario series]]. But since ''Odyssey'' is part of the ''Super'' series, the writers now have a fresh and diverse pool to draw from. It's the [[LoopholeAbuse perfect loophole]]!
* Not so. ''The Origami King'' only uses Toads and Bowser's minions as [=NPCs=].
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** Ultimately somewhat confirmed. Any character that is following Mario during a given segment of the game can attack in battle, but they do so on their own after Mario finishes his turn. Each only has one attack, they have a chance to fail (for example, Bobby may trip instead of successfully bumping an enemy), and the player cannot choose which enemy or enemies they attack. [[spoiler: Also, every member except one leaves the party permanently after certain points in the story, and the one that does stick around, Professor Toad, will only be present while Mario is in the Scorching Sandpaper Desert. (Bowser will continue to follow Mario around in the room before the final boss fight, but as there are no enemies in it and he refuses to leave once you enter it, he becomes unavailable for any more fights in the final dungeon.)]]

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** * Ultimately somewhat confirmed. Any character that is following Mario during a given segment of the game can attack in battle, but they do so on their own after Mario finishes his turn. Each only has one attack, they have a chance to fail (for example, Bobby may trip instead of successfully bumping an enemy), and the player cannot choose which enemy or enemies they attack. [[spoiler: Also, every member except one leaves the party permanently after certain points in the story, and the one that does stick around, Professor Toad, will only be present while Mario is in the Scorching Sandpaper Desert. (Bowser will continue to follow Mario around in the room before the final boss fight, but as there are no enemies in it and he refuses to leave once you enter it, he becomes unavailable for any more fights in the final dungeon.)]]



* In all the battle footage so far, at least that I've seen, there's been no sign of stickers or cards or etc. This (hopefully) means that the mechanic might not be in use anymore.
** Shiny Boots do appear in one shown battle, but they may be a simple equipment upgrade, as in past games.
** In a (kinda rushed but comprehensible) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3rJ1N2HFhM translation]] of a battle scene, the menu Mario's boots and hammer are in is translated as "Weapons" while the other option is labeled as "Items". It's possible the game could be returning to a model similar to the first two games, where items behave more like the ones used in battle in the first two games.
*** All the space in the weapon section could imply that there are more normal ways of attacking than boots and hammer. Or we can still use weaker version of these attacks after getting improved one, but there should be a reason to do that since there doesn't seems to be an equivalent of flower points.
*** The game's UK website revealed that stronger attacks have [[BreakableWeapons durability]], but the basic attacks don't. Basic attacks thus act as both back-up options and general tools against weak Mooks.

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* In all the battle footage so far, at least that I've seen, there's been no sign of stickers or cards or etc. This (hopefully) means that the mechanic might not be in use anymore.
** * Shiny Boots do appear in one shown battle, but they may be a simple equipment upgrade, as in past games.
** * In a (kinda rushed but comprehensible) [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3rJ1N2HFhM translation]] of a battle scene, the menu Mario's boots and hammer are in is translated as "Weapons" while the other option is labeled as "Items". It's possible the game could be returning to a model similar to the first two games, where items behave more like the ones used in battle in the first two games.
*** ** All the space in the weapon section could imply that there are more normal ways of attacking than boots and hammer. Or we can still use weaker version of these attacks after getting improved one, but there should be a reason to do that since there doesn't seems to be an equivalent of flower points.
*** * More or less. The game's UK website revealed game uses a combination of BreakableWeapons that stronger attacks have [[BreakableWeapons durability]], but the last for multiple battles before breaking and consumable items such as fire flowers, tails, and so on, alongside a basic attacks don't. boot and hammer that never break. Basic attacks thus act as both back-up options and general tools against weak Mooks.
{{Mooks}}.



* This is pretty unlikely, but the idea does seem funny.
** Close. The second trailer revealed that his name was Bobby.
** it’s possible jokes could still arise.
** His name is Bob-omb, but Olivia keeps calling him Bobby.

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* This is pretty unlikely, but the idea does seem funny.
** * Close. The second trailer revealed that his name was Bobby.
** it’s possible jokes could still arise.
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His name is Bob-omb, but Olivia keeps calling him Bobby.



* He went after Peach first, before creating the Festival to lure people in to capture and transform. Notice the origami pieces scattered around town? Those are actually the inhabitants, turned into inanimate origami by the king to keep them from causing trouble.
** While the first part has yet to be confirmed, the second part was confirmed by the second trailer. Several Toads have been turned into origami shapes around the world and Mario has to give them a hearty whack with his hammer to restore them to normal.
** Deconfirmed. [[spoiler: The Origami Festival is a real event that was supposed to be held in Toad Town. Olly was created by the Origami Craftsman as part of the festival, but things went awry]].

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* He went after Peach first, before creating the Festival to lure people in to capture and transform. Notice the origami pieces scattered around town? Those are actually the inhabitants, turned into inanimate origami by the king to keep them from causing trouble.
** * While the first part has yet to be confirmed, the second part was confirmed by the second trailer. Several Toads have been turned into origami shapes around the world and Mario has to give them a hearty whack with his hammer to restore them to normal.
** * Deconfirmed. [[spoiler: The Origami Festival is a real event that was supposed to be held in Toad Town. Olly was created by the Origami Craftsman as part of the festival, but things went awry]].



* Possibly an AscendedExtra.
* But...but he got defeated...I think...didn't he?

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* Possibly an AscendedExtra.
* But... but he got defeated...defeated... I think...think... didn't he?



** {{Jossed}}, he is not referenced again.

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** * {{Jossed}}, he is not referenced again.



* This could lead into a minor story arc about the depressed Shy Guy.
** {{Jossed}}, he does not return.

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* This could lead into a minor story arc about the depressed Shy Guy.
** * {{Jossed}}, he does not return.



* Nintendo has been reliant on making him the final boss since ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar''.
** Maybe Mario will be forced to fight an Origami Bowser as the final boss just to give the game its obligatory Bowser fight.
** [[spoiler: Inverted... Bowser does appear in the final boss battle... but this time, he's helping YOU.]]

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* Nintendo has been reliant on making him the final boss since ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar''.
** * Maybe Mario will be forced to fight an Origami Bowser as the final boss just to give the game its obligatory Bowser fight.
** * [[spoiler: Inverted... Bowser does appear in the final boss battle... but this time, he's helping YOU.]]



* Once Mario and Co have him cornered, King Olly will perform a dirty trick against both Mario and the [[PlayerPunch player]] by having them fight...
** Peach. She's already been turned into Origami, so it would seem reasonable for King Olly to use her against Mario.
** Luigi, because why not?
** The partners from the past ''Paper Mario'' games. I know this one is a long shot, but imagine King Olly knew about Mario's past friends and decided to turn them into Origami. Also, that means we would get to see them again!
** Bowser, after tricking Mario and Bowser that he's defeated and will possess Bowser to fuse to an ultimate being.
** Origami Peach ''and'' Origami Bowser as a DualBoss, or folded together to make Koopeach from the VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey concept art.
** Origami ''Mario''. First Paper Mario game had Bowser be the final boss, second had Peach, third had Luigi, fourth and fifth had... Bowser again, but he 1) lost his mind to the power in the former and just got a slap to the hand for it after the battle, so it wasn't entirely him being the bad guy 2) wasn't even fully aware of what he was doing and seriously thought he'd just get a fresh shell recolor in the latter. Mario could turn into an Origami and you'd have to free him with whichever companion Mario has for this adventure (Mario's normal attacks would be locked out).

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* Once Mario and Co co. have him cornered, King Olly will perform a dirty trick against both Mario and the [[PlayerPunch player]] {{player|Punch}} by having them fight...
** * Peach. She's already been turned into Origami, so it would seem reasonable for King Olly to use her against Mario.
** * Luigi, because why not?
** * The partners from the past ''Paper Mario'' games. I know this one is a long shot, but imagine King Olly knew about Mario's past friends and decided to turn them into Origami. Also, that means we would get to see them again!
** * Bowser, after tricking Mario and Bowser that he's defeated and will possess Bowser to fuse to an ultimate being.
** * Origami Peach ''and'' Origami Bowser as a DualBoss, or folded together to make Koopeach from the VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey concept art.
** * Origami ''Mario''. First Paper Mario The first ''Paper Mario'' game had Bowser be the final boss, the second had Peach, the third had Luigi, the fourth and fifth had... Bowser again, but he 1) lost his mind to the power in the former and just got a slap to the hand for it after the battle, so it wasn't entirely him being the bad guy 2) wasn't even fully aware of what he was doing and seriously thought he'd just get a fresh shell recolor in the latter. Mario could turn into an Origami and you'd have to free him with whichever companion Mario has for this adventure (Mario's normal attacks would be locked out).



** {{Jossed}}, such a thing never happened.

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** * {{Jossed}}, such a thing never happened.
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* Olivia, similarly to Tippi, could lament what became of her brother, and team up with Mario in an attempt to save him.
** There may also be a Dimentio figure pulling the strings behind the scenes who becomes the main villain after Olly’s defeat.

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* Olivia, similarly to Tippi, could lament what became of her brother, and team up with Mario in an attempt to save him.
** * There may also be a Dimentio figure pulling the strings behind the scenes who becomes the main villain after Olly’s defeat.



** [[spoiler:Confirmed.]]

[[WMG:The audience mechanic from [[VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor TTYD]] will be returning]]
* All battle footage so far has included stands with an audience, meaning that there may be a comeback of AudienceParticipation.
** AudienceParticipation is confirmed, as the second trailer shows a clip of Toads gathering around the enemies and throwing objects at them, as well as giving Mario a Mushroom. The narration seems to imply that the size of the audience is related to how many Toads you've saved.

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** * [[spoiler:Confirmed.]]

[[WMG:The audience mechanic from [[VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor TTYD]] ''[[VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor TTYD]]'' will be returning]]
* All battle footage so far has included stands with an audience, meaning that there may be a comeback of AudienceParticipation.
** * AudienceParticipation is confirmed, as the second trailer shows a clip of Toads gathering around the enemies and throwing objects at them, as well as giving Mario a Mushroom. does occur. The narration seems to imply that the size of the your audience is related to depends on how many Toads toads you've saved.

saved, and Mario can call on them by giving them coins to get the Toads to throw objects at enemies, solve parts of ring puzzles, and give him items or healing.

[[WMG:Items will require Action Commands to use them.use.]]



* Alternatively, Jr. will help out when Olly tries to harm his dad.
** {{Jossed}}. There is a scene near the end where Bowser is enraged by Jr. being in danger and uses his fire breath, though.

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* Alternatively, Jr. will help out when Olly tries to harm his dad.
** * {{Jossed}}. There is a scene near the end where Bowser is enraged by Jr. being in danger and uses his fire breath, though.



*** Jossed, he's a regular baddie.

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*** * Jossed, he's a regular baddie.



* Seems to be jossed as of the second trailer - the attack system seems to resemble ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild Breath of the Wild]]'' in that Mario has a basic Jump and Hammer option at all times, but can also purchase upgraded weapons (jump, hammer, etc) that are more powerful but break after a limited time, as well as classic consumable items such as the Fire Flower.

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* Seems to be jossed as of the second trailer - the Jossed. The attack system seems is closer to resemble that used in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild Breath of the Wild]]'' in that Mario has a basic Jump and Hammer option at all times, but can also purchase upgraded weapons (jump, hammer, etc) that are more powerful but break after a limited time, set number of uses, as well as classic consumable items such as the Fire Flower.



** [[spoiler: Jossed, he's the villain true and true.]]

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** * [[spoiler: Jossed, he's the villain true and true.]]



** [[spoiler: Jossed, she sticks to Mario throughout the entire game.]]

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** * [[spoiler: Jossed, she sticks to Mario throughout the entire game.]]



[[WMG: Much like Color Splash, there will be a traumatic GameOver sequence of Mario being forcibly turned into origami.]]

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[[WMG: Much like Color Splash, in ''Color Splash'', there will be a traumatic GameOver sequence of Mario being forcibly turned into origami.]]



[[WMG: King Olly's real form is the yellow Shy Guy 'disguise'.]]

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[[WMG: King Olly's real form is the yellow Shy Guy 'disguise'."disguise".]]



* [[spoiler: Jossed. Bobby’s amnesia came from something else. He never was a Folded Soldier.]]

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* [[spoiler: Jossed. Bobby’s Bobby's amnesia came from something else. He never was a Folded Soldier.]]
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* Lightning Vellumental: A Porcupine that can shoot its quills, which make lightning walls that change based on how the rings are moved and the direction the quills are pointing, making a tricky maze. Requires Wind Vellumental to blow the quills away.
* Wind Vellumental: An Eagle that can blow away panels using similar to the Water Vellumental, or use a tornado to scramble the panels. Has a gale supermove that requires Stone Vellumental to defend against.
* Plant Vellumental: Pirahna Plant. Weak against fire. Ties panels together using spiky impassable vines that need to be burned away. Tries to strangle Mario with vines.
* Stone Vellumental: A Rhino, weak to Plant Velumental. Has a horn guard, break it and it spams a 1-hit charge attack with its deadly sharp horn, similar to Scissors, but faster.

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* Lightning Vellumental: A Porcupine porcupine that can shoot its quills, which make lightning walls that change based on how the rings are moved and the direction the quills are pointing, making a tricky maze. Requires Wind Vellumental to blow the quills away.
* Wind Vellumental: An Eagle eagle that can blow away panels using similar to the Water Vellumental, or use a tornado to scramble the panels. Has a gale supermove that requires Stone Vellumental to defend against.
* Plant Vellumental: A Pirahna Plant. Weak against fire. Ties panels together using spiky impassable vines that need to be burned away. Tries to strangle Mario with vines.
* Stone Vellumental: A Rhino, rhino, weak to Plant Velumental. Has a horn guard, break it and it spams a 1-hit one-hit charge attack with its deadly sharp horn, similar to Scissors, but faster.


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[[WMG: The reason multiple Folded Soldiers appear after a single one jumps you...]]
Is because multiple Soldiers can be tucked and folded within a larger one, to make movement and keeping track of them more efficient. It's a nightmarish experience for whatever parts of their personalities survive the folding, but Olly isn't generally inclined to care.
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* The Vellumentals themselves are based off of TheFourGods, each representing a cardinal direction, with a fifth being, the Yellow Dragon, placed in the center, suggesting a fifth Vellumental like this one could exist. It would also most likely use either Wood or Metal, two elements the gods represent but are eschewed for Ice in this game.

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[[WMG: [[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees Hole Punch might have been faking his personality.]]

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Look, I know this is a really big [[{{Pun}} stretch]], and I really hope this isn't true, but he might have been [[FauxAffablyEvil faking his love for disco]] this whole time.
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* Pun... intended?
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[[WMG: The Vellumentals were either always origami and Olly just brainwashed them or were meant to be folded sometimes and Olly took advantage of that]]
They all leave instruction books on how to fold them once defeated, and considering that Olly probably wouldn't create something for Mario and Olivia to use against him, I think that the Bibliofolds were meant to be used by the people they protected in the event that the Vellumentals were either completely destroyed, unfolded, or in a situation where (if their regular forms weren't already origami like some dialogue seems to suggest) them being origami would be beneficial.
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\n[[WMG:Professor Toad is a colleague of [[VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor Professor Frankly]]]]
Considering that both are interested in ancient civilizations and temples, I don't think this is too far of a stretch.
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** Ultimately somewhat confirmed. Any character that is following Mario during a given segment of the game can attack in battle, but they do so on their own after Mario finishes his turn. Each only has one attack, they have a chance to fail (for example, Bobby may trip instead of successfully bumping an enemy), and the player cannot choose which enemy or enemies they attack. [[spoiler: Also, every member except one leaves the party permanently after certain points in the story, and the one that does stick around, Professor Toad, will only be present while Mario is in the Scorching Sandpaper Desert. (Bowser will continue to follow Mario around in the room before the final boss fight, but as there are no enemies in it and he refuses to leave once you enter it, he becomes unavailable for any more fights in the final dungeon.)]]

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